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In a message dated 6/16/2005 11:16:29 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
s.waynforth@... writes:

And then asked does it take coal or can
you use wood in the stove?



Wood.

I've never lived when or where people burned coal. I suppose I've lived
where, kind of, but not when. I've never seen or smelled a coal fire. I have
seen a couple of long-abandoned coal bins in old houses in New Mexico.

Sandra


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In a message dated 6/21/2005 11:23:28 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
marydan@... writes:

"Here, the voice belongs to a disaffected 16-year-old, Jason Block,
who decides to invent a new religion with a new god--the town's water
tower. Finding converts is surprisingly easy.


Brett (one of the unschoolers who's grown up knowing my kids all along) had
a religion five or six years ago. It had rules he would amend periodically.
Holly was thrilled (and also eight or nine) when they let her "join their
religion." She took it nearly seriously. The rest knew it was a total goof.

There was a little cult that existed only at certain summer campouts, too,
called "The Spoonies" and they all carried wooden spoons, and if our friend
Anne came by they all pulled them out and held them upright and said "I have my
spoon!" It had started with a need for wooden spoons in a big shared camp
once, and somehow evolved. One of those spoonie-spoons (Marty's) is in our
drawer right now.

In AA, for the benefit of those without formal religious belief (when my mom
was going years back), they used to say (might still do some places)... In
AA they used to say that you could define whatever you wanted as your
"higher power," even if it was a fence post. You just needed a point of focus.

If you think of it that way, I think some people unconsciously worship
job-advancement, money, or formal education.

Sandra


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Nanci K.

> There was a little cult that existed only at certain summer
>campouts, too, called "The Spoonies" and they all carried wooden
>spoons,

lol, very cool.

> If you think of it that way, I think some people unconsciously
>worship job-advancement, money, or formal education.
> Sandra

Ohhh yes...definately. That recent unschool basher who was on this
list would fall into the latter category. My parents would as
well. If they have any real religious ferver it's always been for
education, college in particular but formal education in general and
knowledge overall, most particularly if it comes with a formal
degree or other certification attached. Ironically, as they age
(their in their 70s now) they are changing radically. My father,
former school board member and educational Abraham who literally
sacrificed us on the altar of his educational beliefs, actually said
to me "I wish your brother would homeschool their kids too, like you
are doing. Your boys are so happy and they don't have the social
and other problems his girls are having in school." Which is as
close to saying "I was wrong to scoff and deride your homeschooling
choices initially" as he'll ever get. Wonders never cease.

Nanci K.

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In a message dated 6/21/2005 5:45:32 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
aisliin@... writes:

My father,
former school board member and educational Abraham who literally
sacrificed us on the altar of his educational beliefs, actually said
to me "I wish your brother would homeschool their kids too, like you
are doing. Your boys are so happy and they don't have the social
and other problems his girls are having in school." Which is as
close to saying "I was wrong to scoff and deride your homeschooling
choices initially" as he'll ever get. Wonders never cease.




That is a big one!
When Keith's mom included a line in the middle of a letter saying we had
done a good job, I photocopied it, circled it and put it on the wall for a year!

Sandra


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In a message dated 6/22/2005 3:25:20 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:

Tell the grandparents its a temporary schedule change, not a permanent one.
(As you and the kids wish.)


I wouldn't buy them with promises. You could say "Might be temporary" or
"at least until fall." That way you don't have to figure out a way to get out
of it AGAIN.

Sandra


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