Speaking of Musicals
joylyn
I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
in order, with #1 being the best!
Joylyn
graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
in order, with #1 being the best!
Joylyn
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In a message dated 5/18/2004 9:22:44 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
joylyn@... writes:
I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
in order, with #1 being the best!
The Sound of Music
Annie (the newer Disney version leaves out the alcohol abuse of the Carol
Burnett one)
Pirates of Penzance maybe
Cinderella (with Brandy and Paolo Montalban)
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
(Holly helped me think of these.)
Cats [not a classic example of musical, and hard to follow
Would the assault of Aldonza in Man of La Mancha be too rough for them?
It's a little bit complicated to explain (the whole story), but you could
talk about early theatre and the inquisition.
Out along with the other two (JC Superstar and Hair):
Chicago
Paint Your Wagon
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joylyn@... writes:
I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
in order, with #1 being the best!
The Sound of Music
Annie (the newer Disney version leaves out the alcohol abuse of the Carol
Burnett one)
Pirates of Penzance maybe
Cinderella (with Brandy and Paolo Montalban)
Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
(Holly helped me think of these.)
Cats [not a classic example of musical, and hard to follow
Would the assault of Aldonza in Man of La Mancha be too rough for them?
It's a little bit complicated to explain (the whole story), but you could
talk about early theatre and the inquisition.
Out along with the other two (JC Superstar and Hair):
Chicago
Paint Your Wagon
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Oh, man, you've knocked out two of our favorites... let me guess, no
Chorus Line either? Cabaret? Rent? Gypsy? Chicago? Ragtime? Les Miz? All
the ones we love seem a little questionable...
Okay, thinking of wholesome family fare. How about:
Wicked (Rain's current fave)
Fiddler on the Roof
The Sound of Music
Bye Bye Birdie (just 'cause it's a fun one, and many 6th graders can
relate)
The Wiz (compare with the original, maybe?)
The Music Man
I can count to 5, really, I just didn't know which to leave out... and I
know I'm forgetting a bunch of good ones.
Maybe you could try to find a community production playing near the
school and go see it, too....
Dar
On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:19:07 -0700 joylyn <joylyn@...> writes:
Chorus Line either? Cabaret? Rent? Gypsy? Chicago? Ragtime? Les Miz? All
the ones we love seem a little questionable...
Okay, thinking of wholesome family fare. How about:
Wicked (Rain's current fave)
Fiddler on the Roof
The Sound of Music
Bye Bye Birdie (just 'cause it's a fun one, and many 6th graders can
relate)
The Wiz (compare with the original, maybe?)
The Music Man
I can count to 5, really, I just didn't know which to leave out... and I
know I'm forgetting a bunch of good ones.
Maybe you could try to find a community production playing near the
school and go see it, too....
Dar
On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:19:07 -0700 joylyn <joylyn@...> writes:
> I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
>
> graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
> student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
> appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair
> is
> out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in
> them
> in order, with #1 being the best!
>
> Joylyn
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I have always loved Kismet and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers (Kismet being my fave)
I don't know if it fits, but I also love O Brother Where Art Thou.
I haven't seen it, but a couple of people where talking about Carmen: A HipHopra last night at work, may be to racy though.
What about any of the remakes of Shakespears works? Could you show the older and newer versions?
I never was able to "get" his work until I saw the remakes, I was then able to watch and read Shakespeare with a drame work that I could understand.
Don't know if this is what your looking for, it's early and the coffee has yet to kick in. ;)
~Rebecca
I don't know if it fits, but I also love O Brother Where Art Thou.
I haven't seen it, but a couple of people where talking about Carmen: A HipHopra last night at work, may be to racy though.
What about any of the remakes of Shakespears works? Could you show the older and newer versions?
I never was able to "get" his work until I saw the remakes, I was then able to watch and read Shakespeare with a drame work that I could understand.
Don't know if this is what your looking for, it's early and the coffee has yet to kick in. ;)
~Rebecca
> I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
> graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
> student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
> appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
> out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
> in order, with #1 being the best!
Paula Sjogerman
Into the Woods
West Side Story
Fiddler on the Roof
Carousel
Damn Yankees
(Not necessarily my top five, but really good ones that haven't been listed
yet. )
Paula
West Side Story
Fiddler on the Roof
Carousel
Damn Yankees
(Not necessarily my top five, but really good ones that haven't been listed
yet. )
Paula
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In a message dated 5/18/04 11:03:31 PM, freeform@... writes:
<< Wicked (Rain's current fave)
Fiddler on the Roof
The Sound of Music
Bye Bye Birdie (just 'cause it's a fun one, and many 6th graders can
relate)
The Wiz (compare with the original, maybe?)
The Music Man >>
DOH!
WIzard of OZ! I forgot it's readily available now. <g> You don't have to
wait all year for one shot on TV. Maybe the original.
Showing kids a movie with Michael Jackson in it might be too disruptive this
year. Who knows what parents will get torqued off about. Oh! And Diana Ross
isn't having her best legal year either. I know that shouldn't matter with
musicians and static performances captured on film and all, but some people
care more about a performer's morals than ability.
I really like Fiddler on the Roof, but there are no little kids. Kids like
to see kids.
Music Man is one of my husband's favorites, but to me it seems draggy and the
main character being a con man is a possible negative.
About the music/morality thing, I was at a thrift store and there was a whole
stack of Amy Grant cassette tapes. Someone let go of his or her whole
collection, and it reminded me of one of my favorite (but not flattering)
homeschooling stories. It's a flattering unschooling story, or at least a flattering
Kirby story (and I've told it before but just in case, for new people...)
Ten years ago or so when AOL was the hoppinest homeschooling source on earth,
there were kids chats sometimes, in an AOL chatroom (like a gang-instant
message). Kirby was REALLY interested at first, and I had to type for him, but I
would read to him and he would say what I should write.
Poor guy didn't know how lame the world could be.
So in a chat with 15 or so kids, someone wrote "Who's your favorite singer?"
Kirby really thought, and said "Julie Andrews," and I wrote that, as the
others were all, every one, entering "Amy Grant" and Kirby said "Michael Jackson."
So in a sea of nothing but "Amy Grant" were Kirby's two.
He actually thought the question had been whose singing voice do you like, or
who do you think is a good singer. Seems the question had really been who
will your mom let you listen to? So Kirby's next utterance was, "Who's Amy
Grant!?"
But it does seem that the majority of families can care more about perceived
safety than actual value based on quality of music or performance.
Sandra
<< Wicked (Rain's current fave)
Fiddler on the Roof
The Sound of Music
Bye Bye Birdie (just 'cause it's a fun one, and many 6th graders can
relate)
The Wiz (compare with the original, maybe?)
The Music Man >>
DOH!
WIzard of OZ! I forgot it's readily available now. <g> You don't have to
wait all year for one shot on TV. Maybe the original.
Showing kids a movie with Michael Jackson in it might be too disruptive this
year. Who knows what parents will get torqued off about. Oh! And Diana Ross
isn't having her best legal year either. I know that shouldn't matter with
musicians and static performances captured on film and all, but some people
care more about a performer's morals than ability.
I really like Fiddler on the Roof, but there are no little kids. Kids like
to see kids.
Music Man is one of my husband's favorites, but to me it seems draggy and the
main character being a con man is a possible negative.
About the music/morality thing, I was at a thrift store and there was a whole
stack of Amy Grant cassette tapes. Someone let go of his or her whole
collection, and it reminded me of one of my favorite (but not flattering)
homeschooling stories. It's a flattering unschooling story, or at least a flattering
Kirby story (and I've told it before but just in case, for new people...)
Ten years ago or so when AOL was the hoppinest homeschooling source on earth,
there were kids chats sometimes, in an AOL chatroom (like a gang-instant
message). Kirby was REALLY interested at first, and I had to type for him, but I
would read to him and he would say what I should write.
Poor guy didn't know how lame the world could be.
So in a chat with 15 or so kids, someone wrote "Who's your favorite singer?"
Kirby really thought, and said "Julie Andrews," and I wrote that, as the
others were all, every one, entering "Amy Grant" and Kirby said "Michael Jackson."
So in a sea of nothing but "Amy Grant" were Kirby's two.
He actually thought the question had been whose singing voice do you like, or
who do you think is a good singer. Seems the question had really been who
will your mom let you listen to? So Kirby's next utterance was, "Who's Amy
Grant!?"
But it does seem that the majority of families can care more about perceived
safety than actual value based on quality of music or performance.
Sandra
Tracie Kowalski
I love musicals and am slowly introducing them to my boys, they are still
very young.
I have always adored Mame, Into the Woods, Les Mis, The Sound Of Music and
The Secret Garden among MANY others. Good Luck.
Tracie
very young.
I have always adored Mame, Into the Woods, Les Mis, The Sound Of Music and
The Secret Garden among MANY others. Good Luck.
Tracie
> I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
> graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
> student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
> appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
> out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
> in order, with #1 being the best!
C Johnson
Most of the ones I would say have already been suggested, but I haven't noticed Camelot yet. My 6 yro and 4 yro loved the Richard Harris musical.
Chrissie
joylyn <joylyn@...> wrote:
I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
in order, with #1 being the best!
Joylyn
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Chrissie
joylyn <joylyn@...> wrote:
I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
in order, with #1 being the best!
Joylyn
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Joanna Wilkinson
So.... If you could, list in them
NYC! It was as great time.
Mother daughter trip.
We saw the new Broadway hit. "Wonderful Town" and it really was
wonderful. About 2 sisters coming to the big city from Ohio.
We also saw "Gypsy" with Bernadette Peters as the mother. It was
good, but "Wonderful Town" was better.
We also like "Cats."
"My Fair Lady"
"Hello Dolly"
"Singing in the Rain"
My 13 yo dd, Carly is giving me this list. She said "Don't
get "Carousel", cause it's the stupidest musical ever". She also
didn't like "Jesus Christ, Super Star", but it's been a while, and I
told her she should watch it again now that she's a little older.
She loves musicals and always impresses old people when she knows
actors of thier generation.
Joanna
> in order, with #1 being the best!I just saw my 1st Broadway show this past weekend. My first trip to
>
> Joylyn
NYC! It was as great time.
Mother daughter trip.
We saw the new Broadway hit. "Wonderful Town" and it really was
wonderful. About 2 sisters coming to the big city from Ohio.
We also saw "Gypsy" with Bernadette Peters as the mother. It was
good, but "Wonderful Town" was better.
We also like "Cats."
"My Fair Lady"
"Hello Dolly"
"Singing in the Rain"
My 13 yo dd, Carly is giving me this list. She said "Don't
get "Carousel", cause it's the stupidest musical ever". She also
didn't like "Jesus Christ, Super Star", but it's been a while, and I
told her she should watch it again now that she's a little older.
She loves musicals and always impresses old people when she knows
actors of thier generation.
Joanna
Nancy Wooton
on 5/18/04 8:34 PM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
movies
Singin' in the Rain
The Wizard of Oz
***
I just read the other replies; one thing about Camelot is the story hinges
on adultery, if that matters to your group/parents. It might matter to the
kids, if they're not into mushy stuff ;-) Still, seeing Richard Harris as
Not Dumbledore could be interesting.
Nancy
> In a message dated 5/18/2004 9:22:44 PM Mountain Daylight Time,That's Entertainment -- for a historical overview of the big song-and-dance
> joylyn@... writes:
> I am going to be teaching musicals and/or broadway plays for my sixth
> graders. I think this is a huge cultural missing link in these
> student's life. If you could choose any five musicals that are
> appropriate for sixth graders, which five would they be. btw, Hair is
> out. As is Jesus Christ Superstar. So.... If you could, list in them
> in order, with #1 being the best!
> The Sound of Music
> Annie (the newer Disney version leaves out the alcohol abuse of the Carol
> Burnett one)
> Pirates of Penzance maybe
> Cinderella (with Brandy and Paolo Montalban)
> Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat
>
> (Holly helped me think of these.)
>
> Cats [not a classic example of musical, and hard to follow
>
> Would the assault of Aldonza in Man of La Mancha be too rough for them?
> It's a little bit complicated to explain (the whole story), but you could
> talk about early theatre and the inquisition.
>
>
> Out along with the other two (JC Superstar and Hair):
> Chicago
> Paint Your Wagon
>
movies
Singin' in the Rain
The Wizard of Oz
***
I just read the other replies; one thing about Camelot is the story hinges
on adultery, if that matters to your group/parents. It might matter to the
kids, if they're not into mushy stuff ;-) Still, seeing Richard Harris as
Not Dumbledore could be interesting.
Nancy
nellebelle
Bye Bye Birdie (just 'cause it's a fun one, and many 6th graders can
relate)>>>>
We've borrowed this one from the library a couple of times. Both my girls love it. See if anybody notices the relation to Elvis.
Mary Ellen
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relate)>>>>
We've borrowed this one from the library a couple of times. Both my girls love it. See if anybody notices the relation to Elvis.
Mary Ellen
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Tia Leschke
At 05:08 AM 5/19/2004, you wrote:
because I grew up with them.
Tia
>Into the WoodsMy faves that haven't been listed are Camelot and My Fair Lady, maybe
>West Side Story
>Fiddler on the Roof
>Carousel
>Damn Yankees
>
>(Not necessarily my top five, but really good ones that haven't been listed
>yet. )
because I grew up with them.
Tia
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How about Oliver! My daughter loves that muscial (and it's the only cd she
wants to listen to anymore)! Great songs (Consider yourself at home, I'd do
Anything, You gotta Pick A pocket or two, and many more gems)! Plus, it's about
children...a bonus :)
Warmly,
Denise
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wants to listen to anymore)! Great songs (Consider yourself at home, I'd do
Anything, You gotta Pick A pocket or two, and many more gems)! Plus, it's about
children...a bonus :)
Warmly,
Denise
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Little Shop of Horrors
:)
Deborah
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:)
Deborah
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In a message dated 5/20/04 12:17:11 AM, DACunefare@... writes:
<< Little Shop of Horrors >>
Language.
Darn it.
<< Little Shop of Horrors >>
Language.
Darn it.
Tia Leschke
At 08:51 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
Tia
>In a message dated 5/20/04 12:17:11 AM, DACunefare@... writes:Not necessarily. The local middle school did that one here a few years ago.
>
><< Little Shop of Horrors >>
>
>Language.
>Darn it.
Tia
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In a message dated 5/20/04 10:32:48 AM, leschke@... writes:
<< << Little Shop of Horrors >>
But if she wants to show the video, it has an additional song that Audrey II
sings and it's a little rough.
Sandra
<< << Little Shop of Horrors >>
>Not necessarily. The local middle school did that one here a few years ago. >>
>Language.
>Darn it.
But if she wants to show the video, it has an additional song that Audrey II
sings and it's a little rough.
Sandra
nellebelle
Just be prepared for the brutal murder scene! Definitely great songs and cute kids though. I loved that movie when it came out.
Mary Ellen
Mary Ellen
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How about Oliver!
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Nichole in Round Rock
Did anyone mention HAIR ?
I'm listening to a kids radio station our of New York right now and a bunch of kids are singing Hair. It's great!!
Rocky Horror Picture Show? Well, that one might not do. lol
TOMMY
And don't almost every single Indian (Hindi) movie ever made.
I'm listening to a kids radio station our of New York right now and a bunch of kids are singing Hair. It's great!!
Rocky Horror Picture Show? Well, that one might not do. lol
TOMMY
And don't almost every single Indian (Hindi) movie ever made.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tia Leschke
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Speaking of Musicals
At 08:51 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
>In a message dated 5/20/04 12:17:11 AM, DACunefare@... writes:
>
><< Little Shop of Horrors >>
>
>Language.
>Darn it.
Not necessarily. The local middle school did that one here a few years ago.
Tia
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on 5/22/04 11:32 AM, Nichole in Round Rock at skhosaeviani@...
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school 6th (I think) grade. I LOVE Hair, but appropriate, it's not.
Paula
wrote:
> Did anyone mention HAIR ?The original poster's question was about musicals appropriate for a public
school 6th (I think) grade. I LOVE Hair, but appropriate, it's not.
Paula
Nichole in Round Rock
I first watched Hair when I was in Fifth grade, and watched about 20 times on HBO, when we used to call it Home Box.
:o)
Nichole
:o)
Nichole
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on 5/22/04 11:32 AM, Nichole in Round Rock at skhosaeviani@...
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> Did anyone mention HAIR ?
The original poster's question was about musicals appropriate for a public
school 6th (I think) grade. I LOVE Hair, but appropriate, it's not.
Paula
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**
Did anyone mention HAIR ?
I'm listening to a kids radio station our of New York right now and a bunch of kids are singing Hair. It's great!!**
I'm guessing that you don't know all of the words to the "dirty words" song in Hair?
"S----------, F--------, C------------, P--------
Father, why do these words sound so nasty?
M---------- can be fun!
Join the holy orgy kama sutras everyone."
(Hope I remembered it right. Bonus points for everyone who knows which 5 words were omitted and what they mean. <eg>)
Betsy
Did anyone mention HAIR ?
I'm listening to a kids radio station our of New York right now and a bunch of kids are singing Hair. It's great!!**
I'm guessing that you don't know all of the words to the "dirty words" song in Hair?
"S----------, F--------, C------------, P--------
Father, why do these words sound so nasty?
M---------- can be fun!
Join the holy orgy kama sutras everyone."
(Hope I remembered it right. Bonus points for everyone who knows which 5 words were omitted and what they mean. <eg>)
Betsy
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Rain would be a fifth grader if she were in school, and she owns the
video, and has memorized most of the songs... I'm just thinking how
different life is now that everyone owns a VCR!
I think there's a huge difference between seeing a musical on video and
seeing a live show, though. Rain rented the video of Le Miz and stopped
watching halfway into it because she was bored (but left in on for the
songs), but the actual Broadway show was here fave ever. I almost never
watch shows on video, because it's generally such a pale imitation of the
real thing. I think movies are meant to be seen as movies, and shows are
meant to be seen live. I'm not sure how that helps Joylyn - unless you
can take lots of field trips - but I'm not sure there are many videos of
shows that will really hold kids' interest for two hours. Maybe get a
script and some CDs of the music?
Last night we were doing dinner and a show (Our Town) with some friends,
including Rain and two other girls a little older than Rain, all active
in local theatre and all current or former homeschoolers... we went to
Max's Opera Cafe, where the waiters sing show tunes in between serving
tables. We kept trying to suggest songs for our waiter to sing and he
kept apologetically telling us that the song wasn't appropriate for their
crowd, which did include some old ladies and young kids... but still, it
was amazing how how many musicals were full of objectionable songs.
Into The Woods probably wouldn't be allowed either, huh? Maybe just the
first act?
I agree with whoever said Carousel was deadly boring. Rain was in it, and
it was a pretty good production, and I still found it deadly boring.
Carnival wasn't great either.
I think Peter Pan would be fun. A lot of old stuff that isn't PC makes a
great springboard for discussion, as long as you make it clear that
you're not showing it because you agree with all of the stereotypes. Show
Boat might work, too, even with the "Colored folks work on the
Mississippi", with the same caveats - although Joe and Queenie are
actually two of the wisest characters in that show. There's a really old
video of that that's really good, like from the 1930s.
Dar
On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:56:33 -0500 "Nichole in Round Rock"
<skhosaeviani@...> writes:
video, and has memorized most of the songs... I'm just thinking how
different life is now that everyone owns a VCR!
I think there's a huge difference between seeing a musical on video and
seeing a live show, though. Rain rented the video of Le Miz and stopped
watching halfway into it because she was bored (but left in on for the
songs), but the actual Broadway show was here fave ever. I almost never
watch shows on video, because it's generally such a pale imitation of the
real thing. I think movies are meant to be seen as movies, and shows are
meant to be seen live. I'm not sure how that helps Joylyn - unless you
can take lots of field trips - but I'm not sure there are many videos of
shows that will really hold kids' interest for two hours. Maybe get a
script and some CDs of the music?
Last night we were doing dinner and a show (Our Town) with some friends,
including Rain and two other girls a little older than Rain, all active
in local theatre and all current or former homeschoolers... we went to
Max's Opera Cafe, where the waiters sing show tunes in between serving
tables. We kept trying to suggest songs for our waiter to sing and he
kept apologetically telling us that the song wasn't appropriate for their
crowd, which did include some old ladies and young kids... but still, it
was amazing how how many musicals were full of objectionable songs.
Into The Woods probably wouldn't be allowed either, huh? Maybe just the
first act?
I agree with whoever said Carousel was deadly boring. Rain was in it, and
it was a pretty good production, and I still found it deadly boring.
Carnival wasn't great either.
I think Peter Pan would be fun. A lot of old stuff that isn't PC makes a
great springboard for discussion, as long as you make it clear that
you're not showing it because you agree with all of the stereotypes. Show
Boat might work, too, even with the "Colored folks work on the
Mississippi", with the same caveats - although Joe and Queenie are
actually two of the wisest characters in that show. There's a really old
video of that that's really good, like from the 1930s.
Dar
On Sat, 22 May 2004 18:56:33 -0500 "Nichole in Round Rock"
<skhosaeviani@...> writes:
> I first watched Hair when I was in Fifth grade, and watched about 20
> times on HBO, when we used to call it Home Box.
>
> :o)
>
> Nichole
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paula Sjogerman
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Speaking of Musicals
>
>
> on 5/22/04 11:32 AM, Nichole in Round Rock at
> skhosaeviani@...
> wrote:
>
> > Did anyone mention HAIR ?
>
> The original poster's question was about musicals appropriate for
> a public
> school 6th (I think) grade. I LOVE Hair, but appropriate, it's
> not.
>
> Paula
>
>
Nichole in Round Rock
Oh yeah... that's right... lol forgot about those, but, it's still great and I'd watch it with my 7 year old, but then again, she's an unschooler, not a ps kid.
:o)
Nichole
:o)
Nichole
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From: Elizabeth Hill
To: [email protected]
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Speaking of Musicals
**
Did anyone mention HAIR ?
I'm listening to a kids radio station our of New York right now and a bunch of kids are singing Hair. It's great!!**
I'm guessing that you don't know all of the words to the "dirty words" song in Hair?
"S----------, F--------, C------------, P--------
Father, why do these words sound so nasty?
M---------- can be fun!
Join the holy orgy kama sutras everyone."
(Hope I remembered it right. Bonus points for everyone who knows which 5 words were omitted and what they mean. <eg>)
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on 5/22/04 9:11 PM, Elizabeth Hill at ecsamhill@... wrote:
For the record, I'm not arguing against Hair personally in any way. But many
of you might be amazed at what some people in schools object to. Here's a
recent example:
In one of my husband's shows, he plays a penguin, and the penguin says "we
just do that for the halibut." A teacher made him take it out of the second
show. Just the idea that a kid might understand it was a play on "hell of
it" was too inappropriate for them.
Oy.
Paula
> Bonus points for everyone who knows which 5 words were omitted and what theyI do! I do! And that song is how I learned them <g>.
> mean. <eg>)
For the record, I'm not arguing against Hair personally in any way. But many
of you might be amazed at what some people in schools object to. Here's a
recent example:
In one of my husband's shows, he plays a penguin, and the penguin says "we
just do that for the halibut." A teacher made him take it out of the second
show. Just the idea that a kid might understand it was a play on "hell of
it" was too inappropriate for them.
Oy.
Paula
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Hi, There~We're pretty new to group w/not much time for intro. I'm Debbie,
son Shane is 5 1/2 and we live just outside Santa Fe. I'm single mom, editor,
writer supporting Shane in exploring his world his way. We live w/four dogs, two
cats and two fish.
Had a few suggestions for the musical.
The local kids theatre here in Santa Fe has done Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory, You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown, Alice In Wonderland, Through the
Looking Glass and also Little Shop of Horrors (a fave of mine and I feel
appropriate for 6th graders). Other suggestions: Annie, The Sound of Music, hosting a
world musicfest...teaching a little about countries, regional
culture...something like that tied to music, CATS. Also, remember perhaps the actual songs of
some musicals may be considered innapropriate but they can be modified or
ommitted.
I did a quick search of "easy children's musicals" and found
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/9007/90241 with some cute alternative ideas, they suggest
shows to actually see...but they seem to be also great springboard ideas to
work from.
Hope that helps,
Debbie~:)
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son Shane is 5 1/2 and we live just outside Santa Fe. I'm single mom, editor,
writer supporting Shane in exploring his world his way. We live w/four dogs, two
cats and two fish.
Had a few suggestions for the musical.
The local kids theatre here in Santa Fe has done Charlie and the Chocolate
Factory, You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown, Alice In Wonderland, Through the
Looking Glass and also Little Shop of Horrors (a fave of mine and I feel
appropriate for 6th graders). Other suggestions: Annie, The Sound of Music, hosting a
world musicfest...teaching a little about countries, regional
culture...something like that tied to music, CATS. Also, remember perhaps the actual songs of
some musicals may be considered innapropriate but they can be modified or
ommitted.
I did a quick search of "easy children's musicals" and found
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/9007/90241 with some cute alternative ideas, they suggest
shows to actually see...but they seem to be also great springboard ideas to
work from.
Hope that helps,
Debbie~:)
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In a message dated 5/23/04 9:53:06 PM, Rosybluestar@... writes:
<< also Little Shop of Horrors (a fave of mine and I feel
appropriate for 6th graders). >>
performed by a children's theater would be GREAT for 6th graders.
If the movie is to be used, some parents might not like it.
Bummer for us to be even discussing the sad decisions necessary for teachers
to make based on what parents will allow. It's a good reminder, though that
we don't need to worry about those things at our own homes.
My kids have watched Rocky Horror and Little Shop of Horrors for quite a
while, but that's my kids at my house. When other kids are over I don't put on
the South Park movie (also a musical, with some GREAT parody of other musicals'
styles and bits).
Holly and Marty got to see Little Shop of Horrors live before they saw it on
video. That was fun. We saw it in Minnesota, in a town called St Joseph
maybe? A small town with live theatre. Later we saw it at Menaul High School in
Albuquerque. We had a little girl with us who was only seven or eight. She
and Holly sat down near the front together. When Mushnik was going to water
the plant, she sat up straight and yelled "NO! DON'T!"
It was SO cool. The actor turned and looked at her, still in character, like
he was thinking about what she'd said. The doowop girls and others on the
sides of the stage tried not to laugh. The audience laughed and Mushnik and the
plant waited.
So twice I've gotten to be at performances with kids who didn't know what was
going to happen, and I LOVE that!
Sandra
<< also Little Shop of Horrors (a fave of mine and I feel
appropriate for 6th graders). >>
performed by a children's theater would be GREAT for 6th graders.
If the movie is to be used, some parents might not like it.
Bummer for us to be even discussing the sad decisions necessary for teachers
to make based on what parents will allow. It's a good reminder, though that
we don't need to worry about those things at our own homes.
My kids have watched Rocky Horror and Little Shop of Horrors for quite a
while, but that's my kids at my house. When other kids are over I don't put on
the South Park movie (also a musical, with some GREAT parody of other musicals'
styles and bits).
Holly and Marty got to see Little Shop of Horrors live before they saw it on
video. That was fun. We saw it in Minnesota, in a town called St Joseph
maybe? A small town with live theatre. Later we saw it at Menaul High School in
Albuquerque. We had a little girl with us who was only seven or eight. She
and Holly sat down near the front together. When Mushnik was going to water
the plant, she sat up straight and yelled "NO! DON'T!"
It was SO cool. The actor turned and looked at her, still in character, like
he was thinking about what she'd said. The doowop girls and others on the
sides of the stage tried not to laugh. The audience laughed and Mushnik and the
plant waited.
So twice I've gotten to be at performances with kids who didn't know what was
going to happen, and I LOVE that!
Sandra
joylyn
Thanks everyone!
Joylyn
nellebelle wrote:
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> and cute kids though. I loved that movie when it came out.
>
> Mary Ellen
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Hair wouldn't be possible. Some songs are OK, but the drug scenes are a
bit much....
My girls were just in peter pan. In the play Tinkerbell calls Wendy an
"Ass". The director changed it to "fool". :-(
Joylyn
Nichole in Round Rock wrote:
bit much....
My girls were just in peter pan. In the play Tinkerbell calls Wendy an
"Ass". The director changed it to "fool". :-(
Joylyn
Nichole in Round Rock wrote:
> Did anyone mention HAIR ?[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> I'm listening to a kids radio station our of New York right now and a
> bunch of kids are singing Hair. It's great!!
>
> Rocky Horror Picture Show? Well, that one might not do. lol
> TOMMY
>
> And don't almost every single Indian (Hindi) movie ever made.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tia Leschke
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Speaking of Musicals
>
>
> At 08:51 AM 5/20/2004, you wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 5/20/04 12:17:11 AM, DACunefare@... writes:
> >
> ><< Little Shop of Horrors >>
> >
> >Language.
> >Darn it.
>
> Not necessarily. The local middle school did that one here a few
> years ago.
> Tia
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My 9 year old has the musical memorized. IT's her favorite. It's led
to a lot of great conversations about Vietnam, drugs, the draft, etc.
etc. But that's my own kid. I can't let my 6th graders watch it.
Joylyn
Nichole in Round Rock wrote:
to a lot of great conversations about Vietnam, drugs, the draft, etc.
etc. But that's my own kid. I can't let my 6th graders watch it.
Joylyn
Nichole in Round Rock wrote:
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> times on HBO, when we used to call it Home Box.
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> :o)
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> Nichole
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paula Sjogerman
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 3:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Re: Speaking of Musicals
>
>
> on 5/22/04 11:32 AM, Nichole in Round Rock at skhosaeviani@...
> wrote:
>
> > Did anyone mention HAIR ?
>
> The original poster's question was about musicals appropriate for a
> public
> school 6th (I think) grade. I LOVE Hair, but appropriate, it's not.
>
> Paula
>
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