Alyce

<<After explaining to Janene how we didn't have money to burn on buying
little bouncy balls which are dangerous to the dogs, I turned to the mom

and said 'that's how unschooling works!"

Joylyn>>

Just wanted to share something cool. Jay, 7, older than Janene of
course, tripped me out the other night. Several weeks ago in passing it
came up that even numbers can be divided into two equal parts -
something along the lines of a 2 second comment. I didn't think about
it again. A couple of nights ago as I was tucking Jay into bed he
started with "6 is an even number, 7 is not, 8 is an even number, 9 is
not..." so on... I asked him how he knew that... He said, "I just
picture it in my head and see if there are the same number on each side
when I make two groups." He even asked how you "picture" larger amounts
like 22 and 387, etc. Lol... I told him just look at the last number.
So he lay in bed for a while coming up with huge numbers and designating
them even or odd. I don't know if that sounds like much, but it was to
me. :) btw - had a great time with Lexie yesterday - she showed Jay
and me around the island in the park we were at... She is such a hoot
and I enjoy her when we see her.

~Alyce

joylyn

Alyce wrote:

> <<After explaining to Janene how we didn't have money to burn on buying
> little bouncy balls which are dangerous to the dogs, I turned to the mom
>
> and said 'that's how unschooling works!"
>
> Joylyn>>
>
> Just wanted to share something cool. Jay, 7, older than Janene of
> course, tripped me out the other night. Several weeks ago in passing it
> came up that even numbers can be divided into two equal parts -
> something along the lines of a 2 second comment. I didn't think about
> it again. A couple of nights ago as I was tucking Jay into bed he
> started with "6 is an even number, 7 is not, 8 is an even number, 9 is
> not..." so on... I asked him how he knew that... He said, "I just
> picture it in my head and see if there are the same number on each side
> when I make two groups." He even asked how you "picture" larger amounts
> like 22 and 387, etc. Lol... I told him just look at the last number.
> So he lay in bed for a while coming up with huge numbers and designating
> them even or odd. I don't know if that sounds like much,

I think it sounds like a lot too! I think it's very meaningful that he
can a. picture numbers in his head and divide them and play with them.
This means he is way ahead so much of our population. And b. that he
can comprehend odd and even, and c. that one little comment can take you
such a long way!

> but it was to
> me. :) btw - had a great time with Lexie yesterday - she showed Jay
> and me around the island in the park we were at... She is such a hoot

I just told Lexie you said this and she said "what does that mean?"

She is a sweet funny girl with so much personality. I think about how
she was when she was five, and she so could have been molded into a
perfect school child, she could have played the game and been teacher's
pet and learned to earn perfect 'A's. I'm so very glad we didn't do
that, because she is a hoot. :-)

>
> and I enjoy her when we see her.

She said she had fun with you all too. If I had known you would be
there I might of gone. I was sorta partied out, I am such an introvert
and sometimes that isn't good.

Joylyn

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Alyce

joylyn <joylyn@e...> wrote:

> >She is such a hoot
>
> I just told Lexie you said this and she said "what does that
mean?"

LOL.. I can see her asking that, her head cocked just a bit to the
side - as I've seen her do many times at the park... let her know it
is the highest compliment I generally pass out. :)


> She said she had fun with you all too. If I had known you would
be
> there I might of gone. I was sorta partied out, I am such an
introvert
> and sometimes that isn't good.
>
> Joylyn

Introvert? wow, I never really saw you as such... at least when you
are around you can form coherent sentences and hold
conversations. ;) I just plain shut down. I'm sure everyone
thinks I'm a pill... as opposed to the far more desirable hoot.

Alyce

joylyn

Alyce wrote:

> joylyn <joylyn@e...> wrote:
>
> > >She is such a hoot
> >
> > I just told Lexie you said this and she said "what does that
> mean?"
>
> LOL.. I can see her asking that, her head cocked just a bit to the
> side - as I've seen her do many times at the park... let her know it
> is the highest compliment I generally pass out. :)

I'll let her know.

>
>
>
> > She said she had fun with you all too. If I had known you would
> be
> > there I might of gone. I was sorta partied out, I am such an
> introvert
> > and sometimes that isn't good.
> >
> > Joylyn
>
> Introvert? wow, I never really saw you as such...

Yes, introvert. You should have seen me as a child, I was literally
forced by my parents to learn to get along in social situations, and I
often felt (feel?) very uncomfortable, teased, and not very well liked.
I had the oppotunity to be in gifted classes, but my parents felt that I
needed to learn to get along with my peers, and because of the fact I
was gifted and different, I was teased constantly. I hated school and
learned to hate social situations. During park days, I have to repress
these feelings, and social situations are very uncomfortable for me. I
come away thinking "did I say things OK? Did I make a fool of myself?
Did I talk too loud? Did I say stupid things? Does everyone hate me?"

How different my life could have been if I had just been around my
peers, if I had not been forced to "socialize" with children with whom I
had nothing in common?

I am also an introvert because I get energy from being alone, not from
being with people. Mark is an extrovert. If I have to do too many
things with people (like too many parties or gatherings over a short
time period (a weekend), especially if I have to be "on" like a LLL
Meeting or Girl Scout function when I am in charge or in the classroom
as the teacher" I need to have quiet time alone to recharge. Now that
I'm "on" in the classroom 8 hours a day, and coaching and brownies and
LLL during the week, etc. I feel as though on the weekend I need more me
time, so I limit stuff to one day. Make sense?

Sometimes I wish I was a true extrovert, instead of someone who was
forced to pretend to be one as a child.

Joylyn, who is rambling and who, as soon as she sends this will think
"should I have sent that?:"

> at least when you
> are around you can form coherent sentences and hold
> conversations. ;) I just plain shut down.

:-\

> I'm sure everyone
> thinks I'm a pill... as opposed to the far more desirable hoot.

I don't know, I like the word pill. I've always been a "pill", and
Janene is my "little pill." :-)

A hoot is pretty good too, though.

Joylyn

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Alyce

--- In [email protected], joylyn <joylyn@e...> wrote:

<snip warning...>
> felt (feel?) very uncomfortable, teased, and not very well liked.

I know this one. Probably contributes greatly to my being so quiet
most of the time - harkening back to the old saying - better to say
nothing and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt. I
don't have too many close friends. Part of me figures if people
actually get to know me, they really won't like me. I find if I
start hitting it off with anyone, I end up pulling away just to
avoid the inevitable.

>I hated school and
> learned to hate social situations. During park days, I have to
repress
> these feelings, and social situations are very uncomfortable for
me. I
> come away thinking "did I say things OK? Did I make a fool of
myself?
> Did I talk too loud? Did I say stupid things? Does everyone hate
me?"
>

Again... all too familiar. :)

> I am also an introvert because I get energy from being alone, not
from
> being with people. if I have to be "on" ... I need to have quiet
time alone to recharge. Make sense?

Complete sense. I enjoy the park and like that the kids get to hang
out with other cool kids. But after a while I get over-loaded
sometimes and need to go home and find some solitude.

> Joylyn, who is rambling and who, as soon as she sends this will
think
> "should I have sent that?:"

Yes, you should have. Or at least I'm glad you did.


> > I'm sure everyone
> > thinks I'm a pill... as opposed to the far more desirable hoot.
>
> I don't know, I like the word pill.

My grandmother was the THE... the (yes, the) stereotypical Jewish
grandmother. I got the word "pill" from her. Perhaps it's one of
those regional or generational words as regards to its meaning or
usage. I don't know. When she used it, it was in reference to
someone who might be mildly amusing, but with an annoying edge -
someone you just look at with a blank stare, maybe a couple of
expressionless blinks. lol... Schmuck, now, that was a whole other
matter. Never good to be a schmuck.

>I've always been a "pill", and
> Janene is my "little pill." :-)

I'll see to it that my use of the word pill is appropriate to given
company then. lol. But then I don't as a rule sit around name
calling or using derogatory language in groups. So if I were to use
it, assuming I was actually going to speak, it would probably be
more like your version anyway.

~Alyce

Fetteroll

on 10/21/03 11:02 PM, joylyn at joylyn@... wrote:

> Joylyn, who is rambling and who, as soon as she sends this will think
> "should I have sent that?:"

Yes, you should have because you're speaking to all us introverts who have
been and are going through what you do. And giving a peek inside of a
different personality to all the extroverts out there. :-)

Joyce