more pics
Kelli Traaseth
I also added a photo-- Kids at Live and Learn 2003
This was taken as we were all checking out of the hotel. Following the Live and Learn Conference 2003.
Kids are as follows: in back L-R Julian Baptista, Melissa Gocek, Sarah Cocek; middle, Patrick Gocek, Alec Traaseth, Dagny Kream (aka: guitar chick!) front, Rowan Kream, Kyra Traaseth and Abbi Traaseth.
The Cocek kids are Deborah Cunefare's kids.
We all had alot of fun!
Kelli~
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This was taken as we were all checking out of the hotel. Following the Live and Learn Conference 2003.
Kids are as follows: in back L-R Julian Baptista, Melissa Gocek, Sarah Cocek; middle, Patrick Gocek, Alec Traaseth, Dagny Kream (aka: guitar chick!) front, Rowan Kream, Kyra Traaseth and Abbi Traaseth.
The Cocek kids are Deborah Cunefare's kids.
We all had alot of fun!
Kelli~
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crystal.pina
Where are these pictures? I didn't get any with this message and I didn't
get Joanna's either?
Crystal
get Joanna's either?
Crystal
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From: "Kelli Traaseth" <tktraas@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] more pics
> I also added a photo-- Kids at Live and Learn 2003
>
> This was taken as we were all checking out of the hotel. Following the
Live and Learn Conference 2003.
>
> Kids are as follows: in back L-R Julian Baptista, Melissa Gocek, Sarah
Cocek; middle, Patrick Gocek, Alec Traaseth, Dagny Kream (aka: guitar
chick!) front, Rowan Kream, Kyra Traaseth and Abbi Traaseth.
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> Kelli~
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Crystal,
The pics are in the photos section on the yahoo site. Go to the home page for AlwaysLearning at Yahoo groups and then there is a group of links on the left side. There should be one for Photos. The new photos are on the last page. Hope that helps.
Jen :o)
The pics are in the photos section on the yahoo site. Go to the home page for AlwaysLearning at Yahoo groups and then there is a group of links on the left side. There should be one for Photos. The new photos are on the last page. Hope that helps.
Jen :o)
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Where are these pictures? I didn't get any with this message and I didn't
get Joanna's either?
Crystal
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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 11:00 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] more pics
> I also added a photo-- Kids at Live and Learn 2003
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> This was taken as we were all checking out of the hotel. Following the
Live and Learn Conference 2003.
>
> Kids are as follows: in back L-R Julian Baptista, Melissa Gocek, Sarah
Cocek; middle, Patrick Gocek, Alec Traaseth, Dagny Kream (aka: guitar
chick!) front, Rowan Kream, Kyra Traaseth and Abbi Traaseth.
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> The Cocek kids are Deborah Cunefare's kids.
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> Kelli~
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Got them. Thanks.
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Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] more pics
> Crystal,
> The pics are in the photos section on the yahoo site. Go to the home page
for AlwaysLearning at Yahoo groups and then there is a group of links on the
left side. There should be one for Photos. The new photos are on the last
page. Hope that helps.
> Jen :o)
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danny31374
I just joined the list. Hi!
My daughter is 3 and I just read How Children Learn. I've always
tried to express my belief that the process of "teaching and
schooling" is ineffective and not really how learning happens, and
this fine book has given a clear exposition to my suspicions.
It seems to me that much of what we need to do is suppress the
inclination to teach. Sometimes it gets into fuzzy territory and I
wonder which side I should err on. I know there is no "answer" but I
would like to hear some thoughts on the matter. Here's what I mean...
The other day we were on the computer. She asks me how to spell words
and I tell her the letters and she types them out. Occasionally she
types a wrong key.
What do you do at that point?
Hit delete and type the corret letter?
Say "oops" and hit delete and wait for her move?
Hit delete and say the letter again?
Just say the next letter and see if she notices?
Just wait and see what she wants to do?
Other?
{Yes I know I think too much.)
--Danny
My daughter is 3 and I just read How Children Learn. I've always
tried to express my belief that the process of "teaching and
schooling" is ineffective and not really how learning happens, and
this fine book has given a clear exposition to my suspicions.
It seems to me that much of what we need to do is suppress the
inclination to teach. Sometimes it gets into fuzzy territory and I
wonder which side I should err on. I know there is no "answer" but I
would like to hear some thoughts on the matter. Here's what I mean...
The other day we were on the computer. She asks me how to spell words
and I tell her the letters and she types them out. Occasionally she
types a wrong key.
What do you do at that point?
Hit delete and type the corret letter?
Say "oops" and hit delete and wait for her move?
Hit delete and say the letter again?
Just say the next letter and see if she notices?
Just wait and see what she wants to do?
Other?
{Yes I know I think too much.)
--Danny
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/11/2003 7:19:56 AM Central Daylight Time,
danny31374@... writes:
learns, what she wants you to do about it will change. I remember how tortuous
it was for my youngest when he was about that age, and he had to start over
or use the backspace key. He had to learn how to do it. He had to learn the
entire concept of what erasing and backspacing was all about, and about making
mistakes and why he might want to make it just right. The hunting and pecking
was a slow process (and writing letters, too) and he rarely looked at the
screen until he was done, so he didn't see his mistakes.
To tell the truth, at 3 he wasn't concerned much about whether it was "right"
or not. At some point he moved on to scribbling through a letter if he
didn't think it was right (when writing), or asking me if "they" would know that
this was an "s".
Mostly what I did was ask him if what he wanted me to do if he messed one up.
Welcome to the list, Danny.
Tuck
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danny31374@... writes:
> The other day we were on the computer. She asks me how to spell wordsAsk her what she wants you to do about it and then follow her lead. As she
> and I tell her the letters and she types them out. Occasionally she
> types a wrong key.
>
learns, what she wants you to do about it will change. I remember how tortuous
it was for my youngest when he was about that age, and he had to start over
or use the backspace key. He had to learn how to do it. He had to learn the
entire concept of what erasing and backspacing was all about, and about making
mistakes and why he might want to make it just right. The hunting and pecking
was a slow process (and writing letters, too) and he rarely looked at the
screen until he was done, so he didn't see his mistakes.
To tell the truth, at 3 he wasn't concerned much about whether it was "right"
or not. At some point he moved on to scribbling through a letter if he
didn't think it was right (when writing), or asking me if "they" would know that
this was an "s".
Mostly what I did was ask him if what he wanted me to do if he messed one up.
Welcome to the list, Danny.
Tuck
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In a message dated 9/11/03 6:20:11 AM, danny31374@... writes:
<< What do you do at that point?
Hit delete and type the corret letter?
Say "oops" and hit delete and wait for her move?
Hit delete and say the letter again?
Just say the next letter and see if she notices?
Just wait and see what she wants to do?
Other?
{Yes I know I think too much.) >>
I use the multipurpose "Tell me if you need help!"
At three, if she knows the letters and sees she's made a mistake, she can ask
for help. If she doesn't know she made a mistake, then it doesn't matter.
So of your options, I'd say "Wait and see what she wants to do."
If it's a program which speaks the word if she's right or something spiffy,
she'll get feedback from that of the error and will ask for help, probably.
I let most of my kids' writing and spelling errors lie, unless I know they
need what they're writing to be as perfect as possible.
Holly wrote "sood" for "should" last night, and I might show her today how to
spell "should," for two reasons:
She highlighted that line in an instant message and said she saved it for me
so I could help her get together with her friend. The line was
"we sood get r moms to talk and get together that way"
She knows how to spell "are," but was shorthanding it.
Second reason is that yesterday the said she was going to name her kids all
one-syllable names but spell them with at least six letters, all kinds of
silent combos. I told her that was mean to do to poor little kids. We laughed
about it. So to point out that the one-syllable "should" has six letters will
tie in with yesterday's conversation, and she'll probably remember it forever.
<g>
She's 11, though. With a three year old I think I'd gauge their mood and
interest, and maybe just correct one thing per session, or if they asked.
Sandra
<< What do you do at that point?
Hit delete and type the corret letter?
Say "oops" and hit delete and wait for her move?
Hit delete and say the letter again?
Just say the next letter and see if she notices?
Just wait and see what she wants to do?
Other?
{Yes I know I think too much.) >>
I use the multipurpose "Tell me if you need help!"
At three, if she knows the letters and sees she's made a mistake, she can ask
for help. If she doesn't know she made a mistake, then it doesn't matter.
So of your options, I'd say "Wait and see what she wants to do."
If it's a program which speaks the word if she's right or something spiffy,
she'll get feedback from that of the error and will ask for help, probably.
I let most of my kids' writing and spelling errors lie, unless I know they
need what they're writing to be as perfect as possible.
Holly wrote "sood" for "should" last night, and I might show her today how to
spell "should," for two reasons:
She highlighted that line in an instant message and said she saved it for me
so I could help her get together with her friend. The line was
"we sood get r moms to talk and get together that way"
She knows how to spell "are," but was shorthanding it.
Second reason is that yesterday the said she was going to name her kids all
one-syllable names but spell them with at least six letters, all kinds of
silent combos. I told her that was mean to do to poor little kids. We laughed
about it. So to point out that the one-syllable "should" has six letters will
tie in with yesterday's conversation, and she'll probably remember it forever.
<g>
She's 11, though. With a three year old I think I'd gauge their mood and
interest, and maybe just correct one thing per session, or if they asked.
Sandra
Paula Sjogerman
on 9/10/03 10:50 AM, danny31374 at danny31374@... wrote:
Some kids will want it corrected, some kids won't care. And if she doesn't
care, neither should you!
Welcome!
Paula
> The other day we were on the computer. She asks me how to spell wordsI would ask her "What do you want me to do if you hit the wrong letter?"
> and I tell her the letters and she types them out. Occasionally she
> types a wrong key.
>
> What do you do at that point?
Some kids will want it corrected, some kids won't care. And if she doesn't
care, neither should you!
Welcome!
Paula
Tami
Just wait and see what she wants to do?
Yes :)
Indiana Tami
'Namaste' is an East Indian greeting which means 'the light within me
bows to the light within you.' In other words, beyond our achy bones,
our tired feet and our multi-colored real life soap operas, lurks a
dimension that is more than the body, the persona, the ego and all the
'trappings and the suits of woe' as Hamlet would say---a dimension where
there isn't a 'you' and 'me' but rather a synergy that is more than all
that, a space for the eternal to rest within the temporal.
Yes :)
Indiana Tami
'Namaste' is an East Indian greeting which means 'the light within me
bows to the light within you.' In other words, beyond our achy bones,
our tired feet and our multi-colored real life soap operas, lurks a
dimension that is more than the body, the persona, the ego and all the
'trappings and the suits of woe' as Hamlet would say---a dimension where
there isn't a 'you' and 'me' but rather a synergy that is more than all
that, a space for the eternal to rest within the temporal.
----- Original Message -----
From: "danny31374" <danny31374@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:50 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Correcting
> I just joined the list. Hi!
>
> My daughter is 3 and I just read How Children Learn. I've always
> tried to express my belief that the process of "teaching and
> schooling" is ineffective and not really how learning happens, and
> this fine book has given a clear exposition to my suspicions.
>
> It seems to me that much of what we need to do is suppress the
> inclination to teach. Sometimes it gets into fuzzy territory and I
> wonder which side I should err on. I know there is no "answer" but I
> would like to hear some thoughts on the matter. Here's what I mean...
>
> The other day we were on the computer. She asks me how to spell words
> and I tell her the letters and she types them out. Occasionally she
> types a wrong key.
>
> What do you do at that point?
> Hit delete and type the corret letter?
> Say "oops" and hit delete and wait for her move?
> Hit delete and say the letter again?
> Just say the next letter and see if she notices?
> Just wait and see what she wants to do?
> Other?
>
> {Yes I know I think too much.)
>
> --Danny
>
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Rebecca DeLong
I'm haveing a bit of a problem, and was hoping that someone may be able to offer a little help, advice, direction...
I am very much commited to unschooling my boys and I know that one of the best examples that I can show them is to follow my own passions and dreams. This is really where I'm having the problem. I have things that I am interested in, things that I want to do, and learn about, see and explore. I have the desires and I can begin, but it seems as soon as I start to really enjoy and get into something, I start to here these voices, voices of my parents, teachers, guidence counslers, asking me where this is all going to lead, is it essental to my future and will it make me money. I start to doubt myself and look at what I'm doing as something silly and not worth while. I see all the things I should be doing, laundry, dishes, and feel guilty for looking into something just for the fun of it.
I know I need to get past this, I just really don't know how.
I come from a family that has put worth only on the things in life that get you higher up the ladder of sucess. Free time was used to pursue things worth while in my parents eyes. If it didn't take you somewhere or give you something to go further up. You didn't do it. Money has always been the MOST important thing to my parents and if you didn't have the desire to have more, then there is/was something wrong with you.
I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be.
Thanx for listning to this long ramble. Any ideas?
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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I am very much commited to unschooling my boys and I know that one of the best examples that I can show them is to follow my own passions and dreams. This is really where I'm having the problem. I have things that I am interested in, things that I want to do, and learn about, see and explore. I have the desires and I can begin, but it seems as soon as I start to really enjoy and get into something, I start to here these voices, voices of my parents, teachers, guidence counslers, asking me where this is all going to lead, is it essental to my future and will it make me money. I start to doubt myself and look at what I'm doing as something silly and not worth while. I see all the things I should be doing, laundry, dishes, and feel guilty for looking into something just for the fun of it.
I know I need to get past this, I just really don't know how.
I come from a family that has put worth only on the things in life that get you higher up the ladder of sucess. Free time was used to pursue things worth while in my parents eyes. If it didn't take you somewhere or give you something to go further up. You didn't do it. Money has always been the MOST important thing to my parents and if you didn't have the desire to have more, then there is/was something wrong with you.
I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be.
Thanx for listning to this long ramble. Any ideas?
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/11/03 2:56:10 PM, elfmama@... writes:
<< Thanx for listning to this long ramble. Any ideas? >>
Have you alread seen (memorized) this?
http://sandradodd.com/empowerment
That might help.
It might not.
You could look up the tuition at some private schools in your area to see how
much money you're saving by homeschooling! Or at least figure out the cost
of public school fees, clothes, special school supplies, uniforms, gym stuff,
art stuff, lab fees, athletic fees, new shoes, a fashionable backpack, new
coat...
Sandra
<< Thanx for listning to this long ramble. Any ideas? >>
Have you alread seen (memorized) this?
http://sandradodd.com/empowerment
That might help.
It might not.
You could look up the tuition at some private schools in your area to see how
much money you're saving by homeschooling! Or at least figure out the cost
of public school fees, clothes, special school supplies, uniforms, gym stuff,
art stuff, lab fees, athletic fees, new shoes, a fashionable backpack, new
coat...
Sandra
Nancy Wooton
Sandra, do you know anything about this Albuquerque-based organization? The
site's pretty cool, especially the Gallery.
Nancy
site's pretty cool, especially the Gallery.
Nancy
Nancy Wooton
on 9/11/03 8:46 PM, Nancy Wooton at ikonstitcher@... wrote:
http://www.fractalfoundation.org/
Nancy
--
In times of change, learners inherit the Earth, while the learned find
themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists.
- Eric Hoffer
> Sandra, do you know anything about this Albuquerque-based organization? TheI guess I could have included the link...
> site's pretty cool, especially the Gallery.
>
> Nancy
>
http://www.fractalfoundation.org/
Nancy
--
In times of change, learners inherit the Earth, while the learned find
themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists.
- Eric Hoffer
Alan & Brenda Leonard
9/12/03 10:55:
costs. It was just a little thing, a bar graph kind of blurb at the bottom
of p. 1. Anyway, this year's average back to school cost was lower than
some years, at $450 or so. I was amazed.
I'd love to tell you the date or the reference to the study or something
like that, but I already mailed it to my husband, who will probably read it
and throw it away. So it's gone.
How's that for saving money by staying home, huh? (And I felt much better
about the $$$ I spent on at bookstores while on vacation in the U.S. this
summer!)
brenda
> You could look up the tuition at some private schools in your area to see howThere was something in USA Today in late August about average back to school
> much money you're saving by homeschooling! Or at least figure out the cost
> of public school fees, clothes, special school supplies, uniforms, gym stuff,
> art stuff, lab fees, athletic fees, new shoes, a fashionable backpack, new
> coat...
costs. It was just a little thing, a bar graph kind of blurb at the bottom
of p. 1. Anyway, this year's average back to school cost was lower than
some years, at $450 or so. I was amazed.
I'd love to tell you the date or the reference to the study or something
like that, but I already mailed it to my husband, who will probably read it
and throw it away. So it's gone.
How's that for saving money by staying home, huh? (And I felt much better
about the $$$ I spent on at bookstores while on vacation in the U.S. this
summer!)
brenda
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/12/2003 4:56:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told
how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be.
Thanx for listning to this long ramble. Any ideas?
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*<<<
Rebecca, I think just reading your sig line should do it for you! <G>
Forget all those people, do what you love, and be happy!
~Kelly
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[email protected] writes:
I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told
how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be.
Thanx for listning to this long ramble. Any ideas?
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*<<<
Rebecca, I think just reading your sig line should do it for you! <G>
Forget all those people, do what you love, and be happy!
~Kelly
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Tia Leschke
>see how
> > You could look up the tuition at some private schools in your area to
> > much money you're saving by homeschooling! Or at least figure out thecost
> > of public school fees, clothes, special school supplies, uniforms, gymstuff,
> > art stuff, lab fees, athletic fees, new shoes, a fashionable backpack,new
> > coat...There was an article recently about a kindergarten in Toronto that charges
something like $19,000/year, and there's a long waiting list.
Tia
leschke@...
"Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where
there is no path and leave a trail."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
[email protected]
In a message dated 9/12/03 12:09:35 AM, ikonstitcher@... writes:
<< http://www.fractalfoundation.org/ >>
No, but that's a cool site!
I was going to say I hadn't seen any fractal-art balloons yet, but that I
don't go to the balloon fiesta anymore. Then I saw they used a future tense
about balloons.
They should have a fractal festival so I can go buy t-shirts. <g>
Sandra
<< http://www.fractalfoundation.org/ >>
No, but that's a cool site!
I was going to say I hadn't seen any fractal-art balloons yet, but that I
don't go to the balloon fiesta anymore. Then I saw they used a future tense
about balloons.
They should have a fractal festival so I can go buy t-shirts. <g>
Sandra
moonstarshooter
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
can't seem to find any that aren't too large, though. When they are
small, they lose so much detail. The only tattoo I have found online
with a fractal in the design is this huge one:
http://www.blackcattat2.com/images/r1.jpg
The color is beautiful, but golly wally is it big. I think I need to
pick something on which to put a fractal for the design. (Kinda like
the balloons) That way there are edges, so it doesn't just have to
go on forever. Oh well, can't afford another tattoo now anyway, plus
I need to finish the one I already have. <bwg>
Tory
> They should have a fractal festival so I can go buy t-shirts. <g>I have been trying to find a cool fractal design for a tattoo. I
>
> Sandra
can't seem to find any that aren't too large, though. When they are
small, they lose so much detail. The only tattoo I have found online
with a fractal in the design is this huge one:
http://www.blackcattat2.com/images/r1.jpg
The color is beautiful, but golly wally is it big. I think I need to
pick something on which to put a fractal for the design. (Kinda like
the balloons) That way there are edges, so it doesn't just have to
go on forever. Oh well, can't afford another tattoo now anyway, plus
I need to finish the one I already have. <bwg>
Tory
Bill & Diane
>There was an article recently about a kindergarten in Toronto that chargesNot only the $$ savings, but they can't beat our situation for loving,
>something like $19,000/year, and there's a long waiting list.
>Tia
>
interested "teachers," small class size, the ability to follow each
student's interests, and resources and equipment available.
:-) Diane
Ren
"I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told
how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be."
Oh Rebecca, I can so relate to this sentiment. I was raised in a very cultish church, with all sorts of "right" and "wrong" being seared into my brain. I spent most of my life feeling at odds with myself. What one loves is oh so important to the soul, but I always had to face the torture of thinking what I loved was wrong, wrong, wrong. sigh....
Unschooling helped me with a lot of the healing.
I decided to become the person I had always been, deep inside. I started wearing chunky jewelry, wild makeup and funky hairstyles. It helped me believe in the vision I had of myself, and act out in ways that matched the look.
I am more bold now, not afraid of who I am and what I stand for. I'm not afraid to put my work out to the world, consequences be damned. I feel more free than I imagined I ever would....and yet, there is still healing going on.
It's an ongoing process, but sometimes starting with the external things, helps motivate the internal process.:) It helped me anyway.
Ren
how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be."
Oh Rebecca, I can so relate to this sentiment. I was raised in a very cultish church, with all sorts of "right" and "wrong" being seared into my brain. I spent most of my life feeling at odds with myself. What one loves is oh so important to the soul, but I always had to face the torture of thinking what I loved was wrong, wrong, wrong. sigh....
Unschooling helped me with a lot of the healing.
I decided to become the person I had always been, deep inside. I started wearing chunky jewelry, wild makeup and funky hairstyles. It helped me believe in the vision I had of myself, and act out in ways that matched the look.
I am more bold now, not afraid of who I am and what I stand for. I'm not afraid to put my work out to the world, consequences be damned. I feel more free than I imagined I ever would....and yet, there is still healing going on.
It's an ongoing process, but sometimes starting with the external things, helps motivate the internal process.:) It helped me anyway.
Ren
Rebecca DeLong
moonstarshooter <torywalk@...> wrote:
<<<I have been trying to find a cool fractal design for a tattoo. I
can't seem to find any that aren't too large, though. When they are
small, they lose so much detail. The only tattoo I have found online
with a fractal in the design is this huge one:
http://www.blackcattat2.com/images/r1.jpg
The color is beautiful, but golly wally is it big. I think I need to
pick something on which to put a fractal for the design. (Kinda like
the balloons) That way there are edges, so it doesn't just have to
go on forever. Oh well, can't afford another tattoo now anyway, plus
I need to finish the one I already have.>>>
Have you looked into mandalas or henna designs?
Most of the fractals that we found, when we were looking into our wedding tatoos, were to big and really hard for the artist to do.
We found that mandalas and the different henna designs were a good substitue for the fractals, and easier for the artist, and the wallet. ;^)
I think I might have some of the images we were looking at saved, if you want, I can see if I can pull them up.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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<<<I have been trying to find a cool fractal design for a tattoo. I
can't seem to find any that aren't too large, though. When they are
small, they lose so much detail. The only tattoo I have found online
with a fractal in the design is this huge one:
http://www.blackcattat2.com/images/r1.jpg
The color is beautiful, but golly wally is it big. I think I need to
pick something on which to put a fractal for the design. (Kinda like
the balloons) That way there are edges, so it doesn't just have to
go on forever. Oh well, can't afford another tattoo now anyway, plus
I need to finish the one I already have.>>>
Have you looked into mandalas or henna designs?
Most of the fractals that we found, when we were looking into our wedding tatoos, were to big and really hard for the artist to do.
We found that mandalas and the different henna designs were a good substitue for the fractals, and easier for the artist, and the wallet. ;^)
I think I might have some of the images we were looking at saved, if you want, I can see if I can pull them up.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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thinkspringblooms
> with a fractal in the design is this huge one:Make your own fractals with fractal forge freeware:
>
> http://www.blackcattat2.com/images/r1.jpg
>
http://www.fractovia.org/uberto/
cris (longtime lurker and wannbe tatooed)
Rebecca DeLong
SandraDodd@... wrote:
<<<Have you alread seen (memorized) this?
http://sandradodd.com/empowerment>>>
I have it printed up, in a folder of unschooling articles and quotes that I was working on, never finished :] I'll pull it out and reread it, thanx for reminding me of it.
<<<You could look up the tuition at some private schools in your area to see how much money you're saving by homeschooling! Or at least figure out the cost of public school fees, clothes, special school supplies, uniforms, gym stuff, art stuff, lab fees, athletic fees, new shoes, a fashionable backpack, new coat...>>>
Oh yah... we are saving a bundle, the closest preK day care type thing is sooooo expensive, my mom still owes them money from having my little brother there years ago, he started 5th grade this year.
And the lists of items they need to have in class is long and expensive. The local kindergarten's list is almost a long as the highschool list, and very few items on it are fun, like crayons, glitter glue, stuff like that.
Thanx for the reminders, it helped.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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<<<Have you alread seen (memorized) this?
http://sandradodd.com/empowerment>>>
I have it printed up, in a folder of unschooling articles and quotes that I was working on, never finished :] I'll pull it out and reread it, thanx for reminding me of it.
<<<You could look up the tuition at some private schools in your area to see how much money you're saving by homeschooling! Or at least figure out the cost of public school fees, clothes, special school supplies, uniforms, gym stuff, art stuff, lab fees, athletic fees, new shoes, a fashionable backpack, new coat...>>>
Oh yah... we are saving a bundle, the closest preK day care type thing is sooooo expensive, my mom still owes them money from having my little brother there years ago, he started 5th grade this year.
And the lists of items they need to have in class is long and expensive. The local kindergarten's list is almost a long as the highschool list, and very few items on it are fun, like crayons, glitter glue, stuff like that.
Thanx for the reminders, it helped.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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Rebecca DeLong
kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
Rebecca, I think just reading your sig line should do it for you!
Forget all those people, do what you love, and be happy!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanx Kelly,
I forgot about my sig line.
It's funny, I got it off a coffee cup that my dad got for me(and it broke a few days after I set up my sig line), and it's his voice that I hear the most. I know that he's been going through a lot of personal growth and letting go of stuff lately. We don't live near each other and we don't get to talk much. He's the only on in the family that is fully supporting us in not just homeschooling the boys, but unschooling, he gets it.
I think I need to get to know who he is now, not who is was when I was a kid.
Thanx again.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
Rebecca, I think just reading your sig line should do it for you!
Forget all those people, do what you love, and be happy!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thanx Kelly,
I forgot about my sig line.
It's funny, I got it off a coffee cup that my dad got for me(and it broke a few days after I set up my sig line), and it's his voice that I hear the most. I know that he's been going through a lot of personal growth and letting go of stuff lately. We don't live near each other and we don't get to talk much. He's the only on in the family that is fully supporting us in not just homeschooling the boys, but unschooling, he gets it.
I think I need to get to know who he is now, not who is was when I was a kid.
Thanx again.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/16/03 8:42:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
elfmama@... writes:
I think that is wonderful for both your growth and his. I hope you enjoy who
he has become. It is awesome that you recognize his journey. It was a
beautiful statement.
Good luck,
Rhonda
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elfmama@... writes:
> I think I need to get to know who he is now, not who is was when I was aHello Rebecca,
> kid.
>
>
>
> ~Rebecca
>
I think that is wonderful for both your growth and his. I hope you enjoy who
he has become. It is awesome that you recognize his journey. It was a
beautiful statement.
Good luck,
Rhonda
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Rebecca DeLong
Ren <starsuncloud@...> wrote:
<<<"I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told
how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be."
Oh Rebecca, I can so relate to this sentiment. I was raised in a very cultish church, with all sorts of "right" and "wrong" being seared into my brain. I spent most of my life feeling at odds with myself. What one loves is oh so important to the soul, but I always had to face the torture of thinking what I loved was wrong, wrong, wrong. sigh....>>>
Yuck, I was raised in a cult that called itself a church too. Some of that stuff is really hard to let go of.
<<<Unschooling helped me with a lot of the healing.
I decided to become the person I had always been, deep inside. I started wearing chunky jewelry, wild makeup and funky hairstyles. It helped me believe in the vision I had of myself, and act out in ways that matched the look.
I am more bold now, not afraid of who I am and what I stand for. I'm not afraid to put my work out to the world, consequences be damned. I feel more free than I imagined I ever would....and yet, there is still healing going on.>>>
I had kinda found myself during highschool, mostly because I never went and instead hung out at the collage next door to the high school and at coffee shops talking to anyone and everyone about life.
But when had Jaiden I decided that moms don't dye their hair or where funky clothes, or spend time talking to odd people about life. Not sure where this idea came from, but it came and it stuck for years. I've been trying for the past 6-8months to break out of this place that I built up, but it's hard, I isolated myself for so long that I don't really remember how to be in the world.
Wow, ummm, not sure I ment for all of that to come out, but I guess that it needed to.
<<<It's an ongoing process, but sometimes starting with the external things, helps motivate the internal process.:) It helped me anyway.>>>
Thanx Ren, your post really helped.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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<<<"I have managed to get past some of this, but it's been 26 years of being told
how to be, and it is so at odds with where my heart tells me I need to be."
Oh Rebecca, I can so relate to this sentiment. I was raised in a very cultish church, with all sorts of "right" and "wrong" being seared into my brain. I spent most of my life feeling at odds with myself. What one loves is oh so important to the soul, but I always had to face the torture of thinking what I loved was wrong, wrong, wrong. sigh....>>>
Yuck, I was raised in a cult that called itself a church too. Some of that stuff is really hard to let go of.
<<<Unschooling helped me with a lot of the healing.
I decided to become the person I had always been, deep inside. I started wearing chunky jewelry, wild makeup and funky hairstyles. It helped me believe in the vision I had of myself, and act out in ways that matched the look.
I am more bold now, not afraid of who I am and what I stand for. I'm not afraid to put my work out to the world, consequences be damned. I feel more free than I imagined I ever would....and yet, there is still healing going on.>>>
I had kinda found myself during highschool, mostly because I never went and instead hung out at the collage next door to the high school and at coffee shops talking to anyone and everyone about life.
But when had Jaiden I decided that moms don't dye their hair or where funky clothes, or spend time talking to odd people about life. Not sure where this idea came from, but it came and it stuck for years. I've been trying for the past 6-8months to break out of this place that I built up, but it's hard, I isolated myself for so long that I don't really remember how to be in the world.
Wow, ummm, not sure I ment for all of that to come out, but I guess that it needed to.
<<<It's an ongoing process, but sometimes starting with the external things, helps motivate the internal process.:) It helped me anyway.>>>
Thanx Ren, your post really helped.
~Rebecca
*~*Leave the crowd, look within, and let your dreams soar*~*
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[email protected]
In a message dated 9/16/03 9:05:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
elfmama@... writes:
for me!
I never really sat and thought about it until more recently, but I guess I
have done the same thing. Meaning that I don't dress anything like who I am or
what I like. I dress in what fits and very "mom-like". Before I had the twins
and especially in high school, I was a serious tomboy. I lived at the beach,
skateboarded everywhere and if something wasn't torn, I didn't wear it. Kass is
critical like me and really questions everything, she dresses nothing like I
did, until I got to college. Kree is a tomboy and dresses exactly like I did in
high school. Skulls on everything, the bigger and baggier the better. Rather
wear boxers than girly undies. The difference is I didn't get to dress like
that until I was in high school and rebelled (which by the way, was my BIG
rebellion). They get to be who they are now. I don't know if watching them brings
me to a place that I loved and now miss about myself, or if it just strikes me
as weird, that although they are so different, they are both like me in many
ways. I wonder often if I got to be the size I was then and I actually dressed
the way I loved, if they would just die of embarrassment at a mom who feels so
at home in "Hot Topic". ;-)
Peace,
Rhonda
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elfmama@... writes:
> But when had Jaiden I decided that moms don't dye their hair or where funkyWow, Ren hit the nail on the head for you and you hit the nail on the head
> clothes, or spend time talking to odd people about life. Not sure where this
> idea came from, but it came and it stuck for years.
for me!
I never really sat and thought about it until more recently, but I guess I
have done the same thing. Meaning that I don't dress anything like who I am or
what I like. I dress in what fits and very "mom-like". Before I had the twins
and especially in high school, I was a serious tomboy. I lived at the beach,
skateboarded everywhere and if something wasn't torn, I didn't wear it. Kass is
critical like me and really questions everything, she dresses nothing like I
did, until I got to college. Kree is a tomboy and dresses exactly like I did in
high school. Skulls on everything, the bigger and baggier the better. Rather
wear boxers than girly undies. The difference is I didn't get to dress like
that until I was in high school and rebelled (which by the way, was my BIG
rebellion). They get to be who they are now. I don't know if watching them brings
me to a place that I loved and now miss about myself, or if it just strikes me
as weird, that although they are so different, they are both like me in many
ways. I wonder often if I got to be the size I was then and I actually dressed
the way I loved, if they would just die of embarrassment at a mom who feels so
at home in "Hot Topic". ;-)
Peace,
Rhonda
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