Re: The Monkeys
[email protected]
In a message dated 7/16/2003 7:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
And I've been sitting here trying to think how it might make sense with a
female singer... These are the lyrics she sings (some are different from the
Monkees version)
Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings of the bluebird as she sleeps 1
The six o'clock alarm would never ring
But it rings and we rise, wipe the sleep out of our eyes2
The shavin' razor's cold and it stings 3
CHORUS
Cheer up, sleepy Jean, oh what can it mean
To a daydream believer and a homecoming queen? 4
I once thought of you as a white knight on a steed 5
Now you know how happy we can be
Oh, and our good times **started then
With a dollar one to spend** 6
But how much baby do we really need? 7
1 Well, "sleeps" doesn't make any more sense than "sings," and it doesn't
rhyme, but perhaps Anne is afraid of heights.
2 Note that this time, both of them have to get up. Well, that seems more
fair. It would also explain better why Jean, mentioned later, is a bit cranky.
3 So...let's assume Anne's let the legs go a little while, and she has to
meet someone important. She brings out the old razor, and it's cold, and she only
has ivory soap, so there are quite a few nicks going on there too.... On the
other hand, maybe the razor isn't hers...maybe it's Jean's, and Jean is just
too damned lazy (or cranky) to buy a good sharp razor.
4 We've established that in this version, Jean has to get up too, so I can
understand the mood problem. No one really WANTS to get up at six.
However, we're still left with the question: Who is Jean????
Well, a couple of possibilities. First, Anne is Canadian, so perhaps Jean is
from Quebec, and is male. If that's the case, maybe Anne is the Daydream
Believer, and Jean is the home coming Queen. Perhaps this song is lamenting the
fact that she has feelings for her gay male friend, who alas, does not return
them. Maybe he's staying with her while recovering from a bad relationship,
which is also the reason why he needs to cheer up.
Another possibility is this. There have been rumors for years that Anne is a
lesbian. Maybe Jean is female, and her lover. Then either of them could be the
DB or the HQ.
5 Well, if Jean is a gay male, and Anne was under the impression that he
could save her or something, and was happy about that, then that would explain the
whole white knight thing. But later, she reflects that they don't really need
that, and she can just nurse Jean through this hard time.
If Jean is female, then we're just being sexist to assume that a white knight
can't be female, now aren't we?
6 Well, this is clearly an example of misheard lyrics (the original said
"Without dollar one to spend") but it works too. The Monkees version is just a
little poorer. You can have a good time with $1.01.
7 Whatever the situation, I think Anne and Jean are gonna be alright.
Kathryn, a little looney
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[email protected] writes:
> Some Country &Western female singer redid that song later and it makes NOThat would be Anne Murray, I believe...
> SENSE from a feminine perspective. It doesn't make much sense from a male
> perspective!
>
And I've been sitting here trying to think how it might make sense with a
female singer... These are the lyrics she sings (some are different from the
Monkees version)
Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings of the bluebird as she sleeps 1
The six o'clock alarm would never ring
But it rings and we rise, wipe the sleep out of our eyes2
The shavin' razor's cold and it stings 3
CHORUS
Cheer up, sleepy Jean, oh what can it mean
To a daydream believer and a homecoming queen? 4
I once thought of you as a white knight on a steed 5
Now you know how happy we can be
Oh, and our good times **started then
With a dollar one to spend** 6
But how much baby do we really need? 7
1 Well, "sleeps" doesn't make any more sense than "sings," and it doesn't
rhyme, but perhaps Anne is afraid of heights.
2 Note that this time, both of them have to get up. Well, that seems more
fair. It would also explain better why Jean, mentioned later, is a bit cranky.
3 So...let's assume Anne's let the legs go a little while, and she has to
meet someone important. She brings out the old razor, and it's cold, and she only
has ivory soap, so there are quite a few nicks going on there too.... On the
other hand, maybe the razor isn't hers...maybe it's Jean's, and Jean is just
too damned lazy (or cranky) to buy a good sharp razor.
4 We've established that in this version, Jean has to get up too, so I can
understand the mood problem. No one really WANTS to get up at six.
However, we're still left with the question: Who is Jean????
Well, a couple of possibilities. First, Anne is Canadian, so perhaps Jean is
from Quebec, and is male. If that's the case, maybe Anne is the Daydream
Believer, and Jean is the home coming Queen. Perhaps this song is lamenting the
fact that she has feelings for her gay male friend, who alas, does not return
them. Maybe he's staying with her while recovering from a bad relationship,
which is also the reason why he needs to cheer up.
Another possibility is this. There have been rumors for years that Anne is a
lesbian. Maybe Jean is female, and her lover. Then either of them could be the
DB or the HQ.
5 Well, if Jean is a gay male, and Anne was under the impression that he
could save her or something, and was happy about that, then that would explain the
whole white knight thing. But later, she reflects that they don't really need
that, and she can just nurse Jean through this hard time.
If Jean is female, then we're just being sexist to assume that a white knight
can't be female, now aren't we?
6 Well, this is clearly an example of misheard lyrics (the original said
"Without dollar one to spend") but it works too. The Monkees version is just a
little poorer. You can have a good time with $1.01.
7 Whatever the situation, I think Anne and Jean are gonna be alright.
Kathryn, a little looney
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Nancy Wooton
on 7/16/03 5:37 AM, KathrynJB@... at KathrynJB@... wrote:
not the Homecoming Queen...
knight would make perfect sense! The rest of the song makes even less sense
then, of course.
(which always cracked me up, since the phrase is "Haven't got a pot to piss
in," but who's to argue with art?).
> In a message dated 7/16/2003 7:15:53 AM Eastern Standard Time,What can WHAT mean?
> [email protected] writes:
>
>> Some Country &Western female singer redid that song later and it makes NO
>> SENSE from a feminine perspective. It doesn't make much sense from a male
>> perspective!
>>
>
> That would be Anne Murray, I believe...
>
> And I've been sitting here trying to think how it might make sense with a
> female singer... These are the lyrics she sings (some are different from the
> Monkees version)
>
> Oh, I could hide 'neath the wings of the bluebird as she sleeps 1
> The six o'clock alarm would never ring
> But it rings and we rise, wipe the sleep out of our eyes2
> The shavin' razor's cold and it stings 3
>
> CHORUS
> Cheer up, sleepy Jean, oh what can it mean
> To a daydream believer and a homecoming queen? 4
>Jean could be a misspelling of Gene, which would make him him and probably
> I once thought of you as a white knight on a steed 5
> Now you know how happy we can be
> Oh, and our good times **started then
> With a dollar one to spend** 6
> But how much baby do we really need? 7
>
> 1 Well, "sleeps" doesn't make any more sense than "sings," and it doesn't
> rhyme, but perhaps Anne is afraid of heights.
>
> 2 Note that this time, both of them have to get up. Well, that seems more
> fair. It would also explain better why Jean, mentioned later, is a bit cranky.
>
> 3 So...let's assume Anne's let the legs go a little while, and she has to
> meet someone important. She brings out the old razor, and it's cold, and she
> only
> has ivory soap, so there are quite a few nicks going on there too.... On the
> other hand, maybe the razor isn't hers...maybe it's Jean's, and Jean is just
> too damned lazy (or cranky) to buy a good sharp razor.
>
> 4 We've established that in this version, Jean has to get up too, so I can
> understand the mood problem. No one really WANTS to get up at six.
>
> However, we're still left with the question: Who is Jean????
not the Homecoming Queen...
> Well, a couple of possibilities. First, Anne is Canadian, so perhaps Jean isOr Jean could be Jean d'Arc, aka Joan of Arc, and then being female and a
> from Quebec, and is male. If that's the case, maybe Anne is the Daydream
> Believer, and Jean is the home coming Queen. Perhaps this song is lamenting
> the
> fact that she has feelings for her gay male friend, who alas, does not return
> them. Maybe he's staying with her while recovering from a bad relationship,
> which is also the reason why he needs to cheer up.
>
> Another possibility is this. There have been rumors for years that Anne is a
> lesbian. Maybe Jean is female, and her lover. Then either of them could be the
> DB or the HQ.
>
> 5 Well, if Jean is a gay male, and Anne was under the impression that he
> could save her or something, and was happy about that, then that would explain
> the
> whole white knight thing. But later, she reflects that they don't really need
> that, and she can just nurse Jean through this hard time.
>
> If Jean is female, then we're just being sexist to assume that a white knight
> can't be female, now aren't we?
knight would make perfect sense! The rest of the song makes even less sense
then, of course.
>Kind of like "I Got You Babe," where Sonny and Cher don't even have a pot
> 6 Well, this is clearly an example of misheard lyrics (the original said
> "Without dollar one to spend") but it works too. The Monkees version is just a
> little poorer. You can have a good time with $1.01.
>
> 7 Whatever the situation, I think Anne and Jean are gonna be alright.
(which always cracked me up, since the phrase is "Haven't got a pot to piss
in," but who's to argue with art?).
>Nancy, wondering if looneyness is contagious...
> Kathryn, a little looney
>