Katrina Gutleben

Joylyn,

My 4yo (5 in September) is begging me for purple hair. How'd you do
Janene's? Did you have it done at a place or did you do it at home
yourself? Or was it a temporary one?

I've promised her purple hair for her birthday party. But I have yet to
find a local salon that does 'weird' colors. She's half Asian and has DARK
brown hair so I imagine there will be some initial lightening involved. I
colored my own hair a few times as a teen but am by no means experienced at
it. So I don't know that I would trust myself to do it.

Is hair dye even safe to use on a 4yo? Are there specific concerns I should
have? I found a temporary one night one but it doesn't come in purple.
Pink yes, blue yes, red yes, but not purple. If I use the red it might be
purple enough but I know she wants true Jewel toned amethist purple!

Any suggestions, or ideas from ANYONE are more than welcome!!

Kathrynn and I thank you.

Katie


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I
think it's quite an achievement even if I can't put it on her Learning
Record.

And Janene has learned how to perform a toast, better than some adults.
Today Lexie brought me a glass of wine while I was bathing with Janene.
She brought Janene a glass of water. I made a toast to Janene, per
Janene's request. "To my most beautiful purple haired soon to be five
year old daughter, I'm so lucky you are mine!" Janene makes her toast
"To my wonderful and sweet mommy, whom I love dearly, I'm lucky you are
my mommy!"

:-)

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We have a Jelly's Music and Bookstore that sells exotic hair colors and other fun stuff, not sure if you folks have a Jelly's or not, if not try asking some of your local teens about the stores they go to buy music, cards, and comic's, you'd be surprised what else you can find in those stores.

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Hi Katrina, I really didn't mess with Janene's hair at all, I just added
purple extensions to her hair, braided them in. Her hair is the same as
it aways was.

I know extensions can be used with different hair type, not just African
American hair, but I would find someone who can braid very well if you
don't know how. And the child has to sit still. Janene's hair took
about 7 hours, five hours one night and 2 the next.

Joylyn

Katrina Gutleben wrote:

> Joylyn,
>
> My 4yo (5 in September) is begging me for purple hair. How'd you do
> Janene's? Did you have it done at a place or did you do it at home
> yourself? Or was it a temporary one?
>
> I've promised her purple hair for her birthday party. But I have yet to
> find a local salon that does 'weird' colors. She's half Asian and has
> DARK
> brown hair so I imagine there will be some initial lightening
> involved. I
> colored my own hair a few times as a teen but am by no means
> experienced at
> it. So I don't know that I would trust myself to do it.
>
> Is hair dye even safe to use on a 4yo? Are there specific concerns I
> should
> have? I found a temporary one night one but it doesn't come in purple.
> Pink yes, blue yes, red yes, but not purple. If I use the red it
> might be
> purple enough but I know she wants true Jewel toned amethist purple!
>
> Any suggestions, or ideas from ANYONE are more than welcome!!
>
> Kathrynn and I thank you.
>
> Katie
>
>
> *****"Lexie has learned to open a wine bottle. It just kinda
> happened, but
> I
> think it's quite an achievement even if I can't put it on her Learning
> Record.
>
> And Janene has learned how to perform a toast, better than some adults.
> Today Lexie brought me a glass of wine while I was bathing with Janene.
> She brought Janene a glass of water. I made a toast to Janene, per
> Janene's request. "To my most beautiful purple haired soon to be five
> year old daughter, I'm so lucky you are mine!" Janene makes her toast
> "To my wonderful and sweet mommy, whom I love dearly, I'm lucky you are
> my mommy!"
>
> :-)
>
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Joylyn

There is hair color you can spray on or comb in, but it's temp.

Joylyn

Darlene Popoalii wrote:

>
> We have a Jelly's Music and Bookstore that sells exotic hair colors
> and other fun stuff, not sure if you folks have a Jelly's or not, if
> not try asking some of your local teens about the stores they go to
> buy music, cards, and comic's, you'd be surprised what else you can
> find in those stores.
>
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Pamela Sorooshian

Come to the Live and Learn conference and Sandra or I will show you how
to braid colorful stuff - yarn, for example, into her hair. It isn't
hard at all, but a lot easier to show than explain. Sandra taught me
and I've done it a lot since then.

-pam


On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 06:43 AM, Joylyn wrote:

>
> I know extensions can be used with different hair type, not just
> African
> American hair, but I would find someone who can braid very well if you
> don't know how. And the child has to sit still. Janene's hair took
> about 7 hours, five hours one night and 2 the next.

Pamela Sorooshian

As mom to a child with very very dark hair - I can save you some money
<G>. NONE of the hair dyes work on her hair - the only way she's going
to get any of those lovely (artificial-looking) strong colors is to
bleach her hair first.

We've tried them all. Her sister, who has lighter hair, colors hers in
all kinds of weird ways, frequently.

-pam


On Tuesday, June 17, 2003, at 06:44 AM, Joylyn wrote:

> There is hair color you can spray on or comb in, but it's temp.
>
> Joylyn
>
> Darlene Popoalii wrote:
>
>>
>> We have a Jelly's Music and Bookstore that sells exotic hair colors
>> and other fun stuff, not sure if you folks have a Jelly's or not, if
>> not try asking some of your local teens about the stores they go to
>> buy music, cards, and comic's, you'd be surprised what else you can
>> find in those stores.
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In a message dated 6/17/03 7:55:55 AM, pamsoroosh@... writes:

<< Come to the Live and Learn conference and Sandra or I will show you how
to braid colorful stuff - yarn, for example, into her hair. >>

Anyone who wants to do that needs to bring some yarn and scissors, though, 'k?
I don't do teensy, though. Just into full-sized braids or French braids. I
don't have the patience or small fingers to do cornrows. I have a very short
attention span. But the principle is the same.

I had tried to figure out how to do it on my own in mid-teens, because of
some illustrations I had seen of medieval hairdos, but couldn't figure it out. I
just let the idea percolate in there, and kept looking at photos of medieval
this'n'that and finally one day figured it out. Then someone saw me doing it
and said "Hey, that's how they do hair extensions! Only with hair. <g>"

So I reinvented the friggin' wheel, but I had never known to take those
medieval images to hairdressers and say "So... how'd they get this gold cord into
that hair?"

Sandra

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In a message dated 6/17/2003 8:56:11 AM Central Daylight Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:

> Come to the Live and Learn conference and Sandra or I will show you how
> to braid colorful stuff - yarn, for example, into her hair. It isn't
> hard at all, but a lot easier to show than explain. Sandra taught me
> and I've done it a lot since then.
>

Ooh, I want to know how to do that!

Yarn! Cool!

Tuck


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In a message dated 6/17/2003 10:28:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:


> I had tried to figure out how to do it on my own in mid-teens, because of
> some illustrations I had seen of medieval hairdos, but couldn't figure it
> out. I
> just let the idea percolate in there, and kept looking at photos of medieval
>
> this'n'that and finally one day figured it out. Then someone saw me doing
> it
> and said "Hey, that's how they do hair extensions! Only with hair. <g>"

You could also have gotten a book on horse braids! We braid yarn into them
too!

~Kelly


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Michele Evard

At 10:26 AM 6/17/2003 -0400, SandraDodd@... wrote:

>In a message dated 6/17/03 7:55:55 AM, pamsoroosh@... writes:
>
><< Come to the Live and Learn conference and Sandra or I will show you how
>to braid colorful stuff - yarn, for example, into her hair. >>
>
>Anyone who wants to do that needs to bring some yarn and scissors, though, 'k?
>I don't do teensy, though. Just into full-sized braids or French braids.

ooh! i want to play, too! can't make it to the conference this year,
though. (or travel much at all--we need more bulky gear than what can fit
in the van with all three kids in their car seats...)

anyway, i'm curious, so i did a quick google search (braid ribbons into
hair). is this the way you do it?

http://www.buyteachercreated.com/estore/files/samples/TCM_estore/BTC/2177s.pdf

or one of these ways?

http://www.virtue.to/articles/braiding.html

i've got to figure out a way to keep a partially-done braid in place so i
can rest my arms in the middle of braiding; just can't keep them up long
enough to do my own hair. :-(

michele

Tia Leschke

> There is hair color you can spray on or comb in, but it's temp.

Not only temp, but not very bright, at least the comb-in one I used on
hubby's dark blonde hair. (He promised the team he coaches that he'd dye
his hair blue (team colour) if they one the Provincials two years ago.) In
good light, you could sort of tell that it was blue.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

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In a message dated 6/17/03 9:06:28 AM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:

<< You could also have gotten a book on horse braids! We braid yarn into them
too! >>

Yeah, I've done a horse since. <g>

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In a message dated 6/17/03 9:34:04 AM, mevard@... writes:

<< i've got to figure out a way to keep a partially-done braid in place so i
can rest my arms in the middle of braiding; just can't keep them up long
enough to do my own hair. :-( >>

I can't French braid my own hair. With others, you can ask them to hold it
while you go get drink, snack, watch a movie....<g>

-=-http://www.virtue.to/articles/braiding.html-=-

No, I don't like her explanations. Nice page for braids in general, but as
to braiding things in, I think her ideas are bad.

I did figure out first how to do the two side-by-side pieces of hair, which
is cool for thick, long hair, but it's so medieval it might be too weird for
modern use. She describes it this way: "A variant of ribbon braiding produces
the Parallel Braid.  If you keep the hair in two tight columns, and braid the
ribbon around them (in a figure 8 pattern), you get a very interesting braid.
It is my belief that this was used in some of the Italian hair dressing
styles.  Here is an illustration of how the braid in process will look; I won't
diagram the process, as it is fairly easy once you have the basic 3-strand braid
technique. The important point is to keep the ribbon flat and loose. " and
shows it with one ribbon. Nah. If you do it with two, and weave back and forth,
you have some ribbon to tie it off!

And she shows starting something by tying it around the hair. That's how I
used to do it in high school, I'd fasten the ribbon into a hair tie, then cover
up the hairtie, then braid it in. But that's lame and wrong. They didn't
have hair ties and they didn't NEED hairties.

No on the PDF instructions too. BORING.

No, friends, we can show you how to braid so much purple yarn into a braid
WITHOUT HAIRTIES at either end, that the braid can be thicker at the end than
where you started. And for straight hair, an added benefit is when you take the
yarn out you have wavy, wavy hair.

Maybe look up hair extensions, or look for Ballet Folklorico costume sites,
maybe. Sometimes they braid wide red ribbons into the dancers' hair, pass it
over the front as Germans did with braids a lot) and tie the ribbons across on
the other side in big matching bows, so girls with short hair and long hair
can seem to have matching hair.

I looked and found references, but no photos of that hairstyle and no
illustrations.

Basically, though, to play with it, get yarn and cut pieces four times as
long as you think the braid is likely to be. (I make mine longer than four
times, but four times will do for starters.)

Cut lots of them. Depending how fat the yarn is, but to practice, do twelve
for each braid (if one braid, twelve or twenty).

You can have a lovely assistant, but I usually drape mine over places where
they won't get all tangled up with each other, so first I adorn my room with
yarn hanging on every doorknob, on the towel bar, on the handlebars of the
rowing machine, on clothes hooks...

Get the braid started. Make sure the top hair is smooth because you don't
want to start this stuff over. By "started" I mean make your three strands,
cross two, and hold it. Put the middle of one of the pieces of yarn behind what
you're holding there. Pull one piece of yarn into the outside strand (about
to go in) and put it in, hair and yarn. The other half of yarn is in your
hand now, and comes into the middle with the other side piece.

Stop. Add another piece of yarn.

I don't count. I just keep putting them in and if one strand seems lacking
yarn, I make sure to put the next one where it will go there. If one's getting
too full, skip that one next time.

Put a hair tie on as usual, trim the yarn, you're done.

Advanced plan:
Use so much yarn that as you run out of hair, there's as much "hair" (yarn
hair) as ever.
When you run out of hair, keep going with just yarn. when you're done, tie
an overhand knot and trim the end into a tail (don't cut it too short). OR if
you know how to make tassels, wrap the end tassle-style (you won't be able to
fold it over, but I mean the end-wrap knot that goes on a tassle.

You can have those braids long, or wrap them around your head and tie the
yarn to itself, or around by your ear when you get to a good stopping place
(depends how long it all is whether it just goes over the top, or first under and
then over, or time and a half...)

With that kind of braid, when you're ready to take it out, cut it off where
the hair ends and throw all that yarn away. Even with the most expensive yarn,
it's cheaper than the beauty parlor.

Sandra

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In a message dated 6/17/03 10:53:24 AM, SandraDodd@... writes:

<< Yeah, I've done a horse since. <g> >>

Oh geez...

I have braided a horse's main.
He might have been doable, by the other horses...

Joylyn

I'll try to send a picture of Janene's hair tonight. It looks good.
THe purple is dark but noticiable, I know this can be done to straight
hair.

Joylyn

Katrina Gutleben wrote:

> Joylyn,
>
> My 4yo (5 in September) is begging me for purple hair. How'd you do
> Janene's? Did you have it done at a place or did you do it at home
> yourself? Or was it a temporary one?
>
> I've promised her purple hair for her birthday party. But I have yet to
> find a local salon that does 'weird' colors. She's half Asian and has
> DARK
> brown hair so I imagine there will be some initial lightening
> involved. I
> colored my own hair a few times as a teen but am by no means
> experienced at
> it. So I don't know that I would trust myself to do it.
>
> Is hair dye even safe to use on a 4yo? Are there specific concerns I
> should
> have? I found a temporary one night one but it doesn't come in purple.
> Pink yes, blue yes, red yes, but not purple. If I use the red it
> might be
> purple enough but I know she wants true Jewel toned amethist purple!
>
> Any suggestions, or ideas from ANYONE are more than welcome!!
>
> Kathrynn and I thank you.
>
> Katie
>
>
> *****"Lexie has learned to open a wine bottle. It just kinda
> happened, but
> I
> think it's quite an achievement even if I can't put it on her Learning
> Record.
>
> And Janene has learned how to perform a toast, better than some adults.
> Today Lexie brought me a glass of wine while I was bathing with Janene.
> She brought Janene a glass of water. I made a toast to Janene, per
> Janene's request. "To my most beautiful purple haired soon to be five
> year old daughter, I'm so lucky you are mine!" Janene makes her toast
> "To my wonderful and sweet mommy, whom I love dearly, I'm lucky you are
> my mommy!"
>
> :-)
>
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Jon and Rue Kream

Hi Katrina - Dagny likes to dye the tips of her hair blue. She does just
the tips so when it wears off or she gets sick of it she can just get a
haircut. Plus she just likes the way it looks. She has light brown hair,
and she does need to bleach it to get the color to work. We get the color
online. I can dig up the site if you'd like. I'd say the hardest part is
that she has to sit relatively still while waiting for the bleach to do its
thing. That wouldn't be as much of a problem if you do the whole head,
though. Other than that, it's a very simple process. Good luck! ~Rue

Christine ONeal

Isn't there an article out there somewhere about letting our kids be bored that that is what leads to inspiration? I'm on another list where someone is worried about their daughter being bored and I vaguely remember reading this. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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In a message dated 6/18/03 7:38:35 AM, christy_imnotred@... writes:

<< Isn't there an article out there somewhere about letting our kids be bored
that that is what leads to inspiration? >>

Oh. <g> It's probably not what you were looking for. <g>

I think letting kids be quiet and not busy is fine. I think "boredom" isn't
what leads to inspiration. There's a difference between being at peace and
daydreaming and in "being bored."

Sandra

Kris

Are you thinking of "Benign Neglect"? It's in a back issue of HEM.

Kris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christine ONeal" <christy_imnotred@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:32 AM
Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Looking for an article


> Isn't there an article out there somewhere about letting our kids be bored
that that is what leads to inspiration? I'm on another list where someone
is worried about their daughter being bored and I vaguely remember reading
this. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
>
> Christy

Christine ONeal

Thank you! That is the one.

Christy

SandraDodd@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/18/03 7:38:35 AM, christy_imnotred@... writes:

<< Isn't there an article out there somewhere about letting our kids be bored
that that is what leads to inspiration? I'm on another list where someone is
worried about their daughter being bored and I vaguely remember reading this.
Anyone know what I'm talking about? >>

http://sandradodd.com/BoredNoMore

<A HREF="http://sandradodd.com/BoredNoMore">Bored No More</A>

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Christine ONeal

No, yours was the article I was looking for. I think I read something about letting kids be at peace and "do nothing" and that that could lead to inspiration. I think I may have confused the 2.

Thanks for your help,

Christy

SandraDodd@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/18/03 7:38:35 AM, christy_imnotred@... writes:

<< Isn't there an article out there somewhere about letting our kids be bored
that that is what leads to inspiration? >>

Oh. <g> It's probably not what you were looking for. <g>

I think letting kids be quiet and not busy is fine. I think "boredom" isn't
what leads to inspiration. There's a difference between being at peace and
daydreaming and in "being bored."

Sandra

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