Alice

Hi folks!

I don't post very often, but I thought I would tap into the wonderful minds on this list to help
inform the homeschoolers (mostly religious and mostly school-at-homers) in my area (easter NC) about
the OTHER side of hslda. :-) Today they posted an article regarding Scott Somerville's appearance on
a fox news show:

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HSLDA Staff Attorney Scott Somerville, accompanied by his eldest
daughter, Christy, will be appearing tomorrow, Friday, May 16, on
DaySide with Linda Vester. This new show from the Fox News Channel
discusses issues in a talk-show format and airs at 1:00 p.m. ET.
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That didn't bother me too much, but ---
Afterward this was added:
(due to certain content those with weak stomachs - be forewarned)


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10 Reasons to Join HSLDA

Your Membership Provides You With:

1. Professional legal representation
2. A brotherhood of 70,000+
3. Assistance with social service contacts
4. Quick action when freedoms are threatened
5. Valuable discounts
6. A voice in Washington, DC
7. Monitoring of state legislation
8. A positive image in the media
9. Support for home schooling organizations
10. Research and analysis

Join HSLDA Today!
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Without being too snarky, I'd like to tell these folks the other side of the story. I'm not looking
to argue with them or to offend anyone. Just inform them. I realize they might not be to receptive
to 'the other side' but ya never know. We might actually be able to help someone save some money.

What would be your Top Ten Reasons NOT To Join HSLDA ?

Thanks so much,
Alice

Sylvia Toyama

Ten reasons not to join HSLDA

The first pop-up ad on their website was for a book by Michael Farris :::shudder::::

HSLDA supports a House Bill in Texas that protects a parent�s right to corporal punishment of their kids.

HSLDA opposes a law in Louisiana requiring all adults to report suspected child abuse.

HSLDA� s overall support for right-wing politics.

Michael Farris� affiliation with HSLDA.

They seem intent on defining homeschooling as something parents do to protect their children from any liberal influences. As a liberal, I just don�t agree with limiting my kids� contact with the world around them.

Okay, I couldn�t come up with 10 reasons. I don�t need 10 reasons, because one is enough for me.

I disagree with their very conservative, right-wing political stance, and with the leadership of Michael Farris, a fundamentalist Christian intent on creating a Christian America. I think what HSLDA is most interested in is not providing a way for children to learn and grow as they need to, but rather in protecting the right of parents to control their children�s lives. I can�t affiliate myself with people who support laws protecting the abuse of children by their parents.



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In a message dated 5/16/03 11:05:59 AM, syltoyama@... writes:

<< I disagree with their very conservative, right-wing political stance, and
with the leadership of Michael Farris, a fundamentalist Christian intent on
creating a Christian America. >>

Ah! Then a reason could be

Belief in the separation of church and state.

and

Belief that children are intelligent humans with rights and feelings.

(Too "humanist," that. It's interesting what a nasty word "humanism" is in
the fundamentalist literature. Thinking people are anything other than worms
to serve God is blasphemous sin.)

Sandra

coyote's corner

"...worms to serve God....."
aptly put!

hehehehe
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Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Could be Fun! Help w/ hslda - Please!



In a message dated 5/16/03 11:05:59 AM, syltoyama@... writes:

<< I disagree with their very conservative, right-wing political stance, and
with the leadership of Michael Farris, a fundamentalist Christian intent on
creating a Christian America. >>

Ah! Then a reason could be

Belief in the separation of church and state.

and

Belief that children are intelligent humans with rights and feelings.

(Too "humanist," that. It's interesting what a nasty word "humanism" is in
the fundamentalist literature. Thinking people are anything other than worms
to serve God is blasphemous sin.)

Sandra

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In a message dated 5/16/03 4:36:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
janis@... writes:

> Thinking people are anything other than worms
> to serve God is blasphemous sin.)

Okay I know better than to start a religious thread but I have to say this:

I'd rather be a sinner than a worm. I'm sure I may have been a worm in some
life, but I must not have liked it much, because worms really bug me (along
with Ventriliquist puppets, clowns and mimes, but that's another story and my
friends who lurk here are smiling now). No pun intended.

Rhonda - who doesn't compost because she hates worms, but thinks its great
that other people do.


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joanna514

because worms really bug me (along
> with Ventriliquist puppets, clowns and mimes,
<snip>

My SIL called to let me know there was going to be a workshop at her
school for kids. It was learning to mime. Two weeks ago that
probably would have interested my dd, but she got Sims House Party
and in it, if a mime comes to your party you know you are giving a
dud of a party. If Drew Carey shows up, it's the bomb!
Now mimes are SO not cool.


Joanna

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In a message dated 5/16/03 6:22:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
Wilkinson6@... writes:

> if a mime comes to your party you know you are giving a
> dud of a party. If Drew Carey shows up, it's the bomb!
> Now mimes are SO not cool.
>

Joanna!!!

Ahhhh!!! I have to say that while Kelly's post made me nausious, this one
made my leg hairs grow. I hate mimes so much, If one showed up at my party,
he'd be dead not a dud.LMAO I would love to have Drew at a party, but he is
actually somewhat shy, from what I've heard from some friends. But he seems
like he has such a great heart. I'm sure my DH, who thinks of himself as
quite the comedian, could give Drew quite a bit of subject matter to work
with.


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Tia Leschke

> Without being too snarky, I'd like to tell these folks the other side of
the story. I'm not looking
> to argue with them or to offend anyone. Just inform them. I realize they
might not be to receptive
> to 'the other side' but ya never know. We might actually be able to help
someone save some money.
>
> What would be your Top Ten Reasons NOT To Join HSLDA ?

There's lots of info about HSLDA at the HEM site.
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

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In a message dated 5/18/2003 3:43:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
leschke@... writes:


> What would be your Top Ten Reasons NOT To Join HSLDA ?
>
> There's lots of info about HSLDA at the HEM site.

And a Virginia group has a GREAT site blasting H$LDA.

But a " letterman list" could be fun.

~Kelly


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In a message dated 5/16/2003 12:51:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> (Too "humanist," that. It's interesting what a nasty word "humanism" is in
>
> the fundamentalist literature. Thinking people are anything other than
> worms
> to serve God is blasphemous sin.)
>

Anybody see Malcolm in the Middle tonight? That part about Dewey smiting the
ants was so priceless!

Tuck


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Pamela Sorooshian

On Sunday, May 18, 2003, at 07:28 PM, Tuckervill@... wrote:

> Anybody see Malcolm in the Middle tonight? That part about Dewey
> smiting the
> ants was so priceless!

There was also a part where Reese was complaining that the church class
was making him think outside of school!! <G>

-pam

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In a message dated 5/19/2003 2:45:39 AM Central Daylight Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:

> Anybody see Malcolm in the Middle tonight? That part about Dewey
> >smiting the
> >ants was so priceless!
>
> There was also a part where Reese was complaining that the church class
> was making him think outside of school!! <G>
>

Only caught the last 15 minutes! Dang.

Tuck


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