Dental x-rays
nellebelle
I'm looking for some ideas from alternative thinkers!
I've just scheduled an appointment for 10 yo Lisa to have her teeth cleaned. The receptionist is pushing for x-rays because she says they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any problems, just needs a good cleaning.
Any ideas?
Mary Ellen
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I've just scheduled an appointment for 10 yo Lisa to have her teeth cleaned. The receptionist is pushing for x-rays because she says they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any problems, just needs a good cleaning.
Any ideas?
Mary Ellen
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Dana
Just say "No thank you".
Dana
Dana
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> I'm looking for some ideas from alternative thinkers!
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> I've just scheduled an appointment for 10 yo Lisa to have her teeth
cleaned. The receptionist is pushing for x-rays because she says they can
miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm not opposed to
x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't want to have them done
"just because". Lisa is not having any problems, just needs a good
cleaning.
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> Mary Ellen
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unschooling1
True, they could find cavities in between teeth with x-rays.
However, not everyone wants to fill every tiny cavity. Some people
may want to wait and see if a cavity develops into something bigger
or causes pain before taking any action.
With my dd's cavities that have caused her pain, they were clearly
visible. Besides, she has an extremely difficult time holding the x-
ray bitewing in her mouth. I don't think it's really necessary.
-Christy
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However, not everyone wants to fill every tiny cavity. Some people
may want to wait and see if a cavity develops into something bigger
or causes pain before taking any action.
With my dd's cavities that have caused her pain, they were clearly
visible. Besides, she has an extremely difficult time holding the x-
ray bitewing in her mouth. I don't think it's really necessary.
-Christy
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> Just say "No thank you".teeth
> Dana
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coyote's corner
I seriously doubt that she needs x-rays. I have no dental. I was given x-rays for the same reason. They cost me way over $100.00.
The dental assistant said "They're just good to have."
Janis
The dental assistant said "They're just good to have."
Janis
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Subject: [AlwaysLearning] Dental x-rays
I'm looking for some ideas from alternative thinkers!
I've just scheduled an appointment for 10 yo Lisa to have her teeth cleaned. The receptionist is pushing for x-rays because she says they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any problems, just needs a good cleaning.
Any ideas?
Mary Ellen
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Joylyn
My dentist did say that a base line xray is important, and so we had
them done for Lexie last year. Her first. This way they can compare
things if ther eis an issue, and also to see where her big teeth are...
joylyn
Dana wrote:
them done for Lexie last year. Her first. This way they can compare
things if ther eis an issue, and also to see where her big teeth are...
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joanna514
--- In [email protected], "nellebelle" <nellebelle@c...>
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they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm
not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't
want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any
problems, just needs a good cleaning.
really dreading it. He has had the worst teeth. Two absested and
were removed after antibiotics within a 6 month period when he was 3.
He had to be knocked out the second time around, then he spent 2
years refusing to open his mouth for a dentist and grew two more
nasty cavities. He got way better about letting them do work on him
and now has 2 crowns. He has some small ones to get filled tomorrow
and they also want to put a spacer in where the two were extracted.
I'm questioning whether this is necessary since it's been 3 years and
his teeth have already moved to fill the space. They are baby teeth
that are going to fall out anyway.
This is the discussion i have to have tomorrow and this guy is
intimidating.
They already made a mold for the spacer at the last appointment which
wasn't suppose to happen til this appointment tomorrow. I get a bill
for over $400 for this mold, and I didn't even agree to have the
spacer put in! He had lined up 3 appointment for me with all the
costs and proceedures layed out and told me there would be no
suprises with cost. I had expressed my concern with the expense when
we started all this.
The spacer wasn't suppose to happen til the 3rd appt. and I was still
debating about doing it or not. I hadn't told him that, but I
thought I had time. Now I have a bill for something I think I don't
want to happen. I'm not paying if we don't do it. I don't think I
should, since he is the one that altered our proceedure agreement
without consulting me.
Sorry, I'm rambling in my frustration and dread. I hope i made sense.
Joanna (who hates dealing with crap like this)
Oh, and Jack brushes every day. He's not the healthiest eater
though.
wrote:
> I'm looking for some ideas from alternative thinkers!cleaned. The receptionist is pushing for x-rays because she says
>
> I've just scheduled an appointment for 10 yo Lisa to have her teeth
they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm
not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't
want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any
problems, just needs a good cleaning.
>I have to take my ds Jack (he's 6) to the dentist tomorrow and I'm
> Any ideas?
>
> Mary Ellen
>
>
really dreading it. He has had the worst teeth. Two absested and
were removed after antibiotics within a 6 month period when he was 3.
He had to be knocked out the second time around, then he spent 2
years refusing to open his mouth for a dentist and grew two more
nasty cavities. He got way better about letting them do work on him
and now has 2 crowns. He has some small ones to get filled tomorrow
and they also want to put a spacer in where the two were extracted.
I'm questioning whether this is necessary since it's been 3 years and
his teeth have already moved to fill the space. They are baby teeth
that are going to fall out anyway.
This is the discussion i have to have tomorrow and this guy is
intimidating.
They already made a mold for the spacer at the last appointment which
wasn't suppose to happen til this appointment tomorrow. I get a bill
for over $400 for this mold, and I didn't even agree to have the
spacer put in! He had lined up 3 appointment for me with all the
costs and proceedures layed out and told me there would be no
suprises with cost. I had expressed my concern with the expense when
we started all this.
The spacer wasn't suppose to happen til the 3rd appt. and I was still
debating about doing it or not. I hadn't told him that, but I
thought I had time. Now I have a bill for something I think I don't
want to happen. I'm not paying if we don't do it. I don't think I
should, since he is the one that altered our proceedure agreement
without consulting me.
Sorry, I'm rambling in my frustration and dread. I hope i made sense.
Joanna (who hates dealing with crap like this)
Oh, and Jack brushes every day. He's not the healthiest eater
though.
Kate Green
We have been seeing a French dentist here in the Middle East and he hasn't
done any xrays on us. Says they are only needed every 5 or 6 years or so.
He also doesn't clean children's teeth (unless really needed) and doesn't
go crazy on cleaning adult teeth more than every other year. He says that
stripping off all the plaque is bad because you need some of it as a
protective coating. It's like taking all the bacteria off your body (with
anti-bacteria soaps etc) and leaving yourself exposed to more problems. He
even told my kids not to floss until they are in their teens.
He tells us most European dentists laugh at the extreme dental care given
in the US because they don't believe it's all necessary.
Take this as you will -- I haven't seen reports on the state of teeth in
France:)
Kate
At 11:25 AM 5/5/03 -0700, you wrote:
done any xrays on us. Says they are only needed every 5 or 6 years or so.
He also doesn't clean children's teeth (unless really needed) and doesn't
go crazy on cleaning adult teeth more than every other year. He says that
stripping off all the plaque is bad because you need some of it as a
protective coating. It's like taking all the bacteria off your body (with
anti-bacteria soaps etc) and leaving yourself exposed to more problems. He
even told my kids not to floss until they are in their teens.
He tells us most European dentists laugh at the extreme dental care given
in the US because they don't believe it's all necessary.
Take this as you will -- I haven't seen reports on the state of teeth in
France:)
Kate
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> Mary Ellen
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Nancy Wooton
on 5/5/03 7:21 PM, Joylyn at joylyn@... wrote:
upwards, lying between the roots of her permanent central incisors within
the palate, heading for her nasal cavity. It took immediate oral surgery to
remove it; it was already 5/8" long, and would have broken through into her
nose eventually, killing the incisors in the process.
Nancy
(noticing that this list has gone from discussing my least favorite topic,
birth stories, to my second least favorite, dentistry. If you start
discussing gardening, I'll have to go no email!! :-)
> My dentist did say that a base line xray is important, and so we hadMy dd's first dental x-rays caught a misodent, an abnormal tooth growing
> them done for Lexie last year. Her first. This way they can compare
> things if ther eis an issue, and also to see where her big teeth are...
upwards, lying between the roots of her permanent central incisors within
the palate, heading for her nasal cavity. It took immediate oral surgery to
remove it; it was already 5/8" long, and would have broken through into her
nose eventually, killing the incisors in the process.
Nancy
(noticing that this list has gone from discussing my least favorite topic,
birth stories, to my second least favorite, dentistry. If you start
discussing gardening, I'll have to go no email!! :-)
Pamela Sorooshian
Changed the subject line, for Nancy <G>.
Ever seen miniature horses? A local group (create a smile) takes one to
hospitals to visit sick children. It wears pink tennis shoes -otherwise
it would slip on the linoleum floor. It travels in a minivan with the
seats taken out. I don't see any reason I couldn't keep a miniature
horse in my backyard - it is as small as a big dog --- wonder how much
they cost.
Speaking of 4H - Rosie has been very involved with a 4H horse project
this year - rides several times per week. I wish we'd discovered 4H
years ago - it is so unschoolish - kids pick projects they are
interested in and adults or older teens help them pursue those
interests. Learning is hands-on and instruction follows experience.
--pam
Ever seen miniature horses? A local group (create a smile) takes one to
hospitals to visit sick children. It wears pink tennis shoes -otherwise
it would slip on the linoleum floor. It travels in a minivan with the
seats taken out. I don't see any reason I couldn't keep a miniature
horse in my backyard - it is as small as a big dog --- wonder how much
they cost.
Speaking of 4H - Rosie has been very involved with a 4H horse project
this year - rides several times per week. I wish we'd discovered 4H
years ago - it is so unschoolish - kids pick projects they are
interested in and adults or older teens help them pursue those
interests. Learning is hands-on and instruction follows experience.
--pam
On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 07:50 PM, Nancy Wooton wrote:
> (noticing that this list has gone from discussing my least favorite
> topic,
> birth stories, to my second least favorite, dentistry. If you start
> discussing gardening, I'll have to go no email!! :-)
Pam Hartley
Miniature horses are very cool. Wally and I went to a miniature horse show a
few years ago and I fell madly, hopelessly in love with a
"thoroughbred-style" miniature horse who was about the size of a Great Dane
and looked like a wee replica of Seattle Slew. He cost more than our car.
No, both our cars.
I'm sure there are cheaper ones. <g>
Pam
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few years ago and I fell madly, hopelessly in love with a
"thoroughbred-style" miniature horse who was about the size of a Great Dane
and looked like a wee replica of Seattle Slew. He cost more than our car.
No, both our cars.
I'm sure there are cheaper ones. <g>
Pam
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>From: Pamela Sorooshian <pamsoroosh@...>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [AlwaysLearning] horses (was Dental x-rays)
>Date: Mon, May 5, 2003, 9:59 PM
>
> Changed the subject line, for Nancy <G>.
>
> Ever seen miniature horses? A local group (create a smile) takes one to
> hospitals to visit sick children. It wears pink tennis shoes -otherwise
> it would slip on the linoleum floor. It travels in a minivan with the
> seats taken out. I don't see any reason I couldn't keep a miniature
> horse in my backyard - it is as small as a big dog --- wonder how much
> they cost.
>
> Speaking of 4H - Rosie has been very involved with a 4H horse project
> this year - rides several times per week. I wish we'd discovered 4H
> years ago - it is so unschoolish - kids pick projects they are
> interested in and adults or older teens help them pursue those
> interests. Learning is hands-on and instruction follows experience.
>
> --pam
>
>
> On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 07:50 PM, Nancy Wooton wrote:
>
>> (noticing that this list has gone from discussing my least favorite
>> topic,
>> birth stories, to my second least favorite, dentistry. If you start
>> discussing gardening, I'll have to go no email!! :-)
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Nancy Wooton
on 5/5/03 9:59 PM, Pamela Sorooshian at pamsoroosh@... wrote:
they wear sneakers, too, for the same reason. Horses can live past 30
years, compared to the 12 year average lifespan/ age of retirement for
Seeing Eye dogs. They also see things differently and have different
instincts which seem to work well for the job.
no matter how small. I've read some people housebreak them, though.
Nancy, taking the list off on another tangent.
> Changed the subject line, for Nancy <G>.What a pal!!!
>Now, what do you think? <ggg>
> Ever seen miniature horses?
> A local group (create a smile) takes one toAhh, cute. Have you heard about the ones being trained for Seeing Eye work?
> hospitals to visit sick children. It wears pink tennis shoes -otherwise
> it would slip on the linoleum floor.
they wear sneakers, too, for the same reason. Horses can live past 30
years, compared to the 12 year average lifespan/ age of retirement for
Seeing Eye dogs. They also see things differently and have different
instincts which seem to work well for the job.
> It travels in a minivan with theYou'll want to check your city's zoning laws; they may not permit a horse,
> seats taken out. I don't see any reason I couldn't keep a miniature
> horse in my backyard - it is as small as a big dog --- wonder how much
> they cost.
no matter how small. I've read some people housebreak them, though.
>Does she ride English or Western?
> Speaking of 4H - Rosie has been very involved with a 4H horse project
> this year - rides several times per week. I wish we'd discovered 4H
> years ago - it is so unschoolish - kids pick projects they are
> interested in and adults or older teens help them pursue those
> interests. Learning is hands-on and instruction follows experience.
>
> --pam
>
Nancy, taking the list off on another tangent.
Pamela Sorooshian
On Monday, May 5, 2003, at 11:15 PM, Nancy Wooton wrote:
switching back and forth. She used to like English MUCH more - liked
learning to jump....but now she's liking Western a bit more, I think,
and I REALLY like western more (watching her jumping was scary for me).
In 4H they do much more than just ride - they do "showmanship" and also
things like "horse bowl" and they have horse judging competitions and
so on. They go on field trips and they do community service once a
month that is often horse-related (help out at the therapeutic
programs/seeing eye horse programs, etc). Rosie did a display about
Quick Release Knots (why use one, how to tie it, etc) for the Orange
County Fair's "youth expo" last weekend - and won Best of Show for
intermediate age kids (6th to 8th grades) in the Animal and Veterinary
Science Division. In a few weeks they have their end-of-year horse
mastership testing -- they get scored on equitation, showmanship, trail
riding, grooming ability and knowledge, and general horse knowledge.
Horses and soccer - that's been Rosie's "curriculum" for the past few
years! I know I have learned a LOT!!! <G>
-pam
> Does she ride English or Western?Both. She rode English for a couple of years (pre-4H) - then started
switching back and forth. She used to like English MUCH more - liked
learning to jump....but now she's liking Western a bit more, I think,
and I REALLY like western more (watching her jumping was scary for me).
In 4H they do much more than just ride - they do "showmanship" and also
things like "horse bowl" and they have horse judging competitions and
so on. They go on field trips and they do community service once a
month that is often horse-related (help out at the therapeutic
programs/seeing eye horse programs, etc). Rosie did a display about
Quick Release Knots (why use one, how to tie it, etc) for the Orange
County Fair's "youth expo" last weekend - and won Best of Show for
intermediate age kids (6th to 8th grades) in the Animal and Veterinary
Science Division. In a few weeks they have their end-of-year horse
mastership testing -- they get scored on equitation, showmanship, trail
riding, grooming ability and knowledge, and general horse knowledge.
Horses and soccer - that's been Rosie's "curriculum" for the past few
years! I know I have learned a LOT!!! <G>
-pam
Kerrin or Ralph Taylor
Hi Mary Ellen and Joanna.
I've always said no to xrays for my children and myself. I don't think it's a good idea to use a potentially harmful procedure when there is no known problem to warrant it.
And Joanna, I hate all that crap too! I've learnt over the years to be assertive and not allow anyone to make the decisions for me. Now I say firmly and politely what I do and don't want and I make sure they understand me.
One of my sons had similar dental problems to yours. He had a few baby teeth removed. His adult teeth are beautiful, much to my relief! He also brushed regularly. I got really sick of everyone assuming that he lived on lollies and never brushed, and all those "what a bad mother" looks! All my other kids had lovely teeth. It's a real mystery.
We've given up on regular dental visits all together now. They always want to give fillings, which don't seem necessary. Then they want to use mercury amalgam, which we decline. They give the kids fluoride toothpaste, which we throw out, and want to coat their teeth with fluoride, also declined. There didn't seem to be much point in going back after the last time......
Kerrin.
they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm
not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't
want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any
problems, just needs a good cleaning.
really dreading it. He has had the worst teeth. Two absested and
were removed after antibiotics within a 6 month period when he was 3.
He had to be knocked out the second time around, then he spent 2
years refusing to open his mouth for a dentist and grew two more
nasty cavities. He got way better about letting them do work on him
and now has 2 crowns. He has some small ones to get filled tomorrow
and they also want to put a spacer in where the two were extracted.
I'm questioning whether this is necessary since it's been 3 years and
his teeth have already moved to fill the space. They are baby teeth
that are going to fall out anyway.
This is the discussion i have to have tomorrow and this guy is
intimidating.
They already made a mold for the spacer at the last appointment which
wasn't suppose to happen til this appointment tomorrow. I get a bill
for over $400 for this mold, and I didn't even agree to have the
spacer put in! He had lined up 3 appointment for me with all the
costs and proceedures layed out and told me there would be no
suprises with cost. I had expressed my concern with the expense when
we started all this.
The spacer wasn't suppose to happen til the 3rd appt. and I was still
debating about doing it or not. I hadn't told him that, but I
thought I had time. Now I have a bill for something I think I don't
want to happen. I'm not paying if we don't do it. I don't think I
should, since he is the one that altered our proceedure agreement
without consulting me.
Sorry, I'm rambling in my frustration and dread. I hope i made sense.
Joanna (who hates dealing with crap like this)
Oh, and Jack brushes every day. He's not the healthiest eater
though.
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I've always said no to xrays for my children and myself. I don't think it's a good idea to use a potentially harmful procedure when there is no known problem to warrant it.
And Joanna, I hate all that crap too! I've learnt over the years to be assertive and not allow anyone to make the decisions for me. Now I say firmly and politely what I do and don't want and I make sure they understand me.
One of my sons had similar dental problems to yours. He had a few baby teeth removed. His adult teeth are beautiful, much to my relief! He also brushed regularly. I got really sick of everyone assuming that he lived on lollies and never brushed, and all those "what a bad mother" looks! All my other kids had lovely teeth. It's a real mystery.
We've given up on regular dental visits all together now. They always want to give fillings, which don't seem necessary. Then they want to use mercury amalgam, which we decline. They give the kids fluoride toothpaste, which we throw out, and want to coat their teeth with fluoride, also declined. There didn't seem to be much point in going back after the last time......
Kerrin.
> I'm looking for some ideas from alternative thinkers!cleaned. The receptionist is pushing for x-rays because she says
>
> I've just scheduled an appointment for 10 yo Lisa to have her teeth
they can miss cavities between the teeth without x-rays. Now, I'm
not opposed to x-rays if there is a good reason for them, but don't
want to have them done "just because". Lisa is not having any
problems, just needs a good cleaning.
>I have to take my ds Jack (he's 6) to the dentist tomorrow and I'm
> Any ideas?
>
> Mary Ellen
>
>
really dreading it. He has had the worst teeth. Two absested and
were removed after antibiotics within a 6 month period when he was 3.
He had to be knocked out the second time around, then he spent 2
years refusing to open his mouth for a dentist and grew two more
nasty cavities. He got way better about letting them do work on him
and now has 2 crowns. He has some small ones to get filled tomorrow
and they also want to put a spacer in where the two were extracted.
I'm questioning whether this is necessary since it's been 3 years and
his teeth have already moved to fill the space. They are baby teeth
that are going to fall out anyway.
This is the discussion i have to have tomorrow and this guy is
intimidating.
They already made a mold for the spacer at the last appointment which
wasn't suppose to happen til this appointment tomorrow. I get a bill
for over $400 for this mold, and I didn't even agree to have the
spacer put in! He had lined up 3 appointment for me with all the
costs and proceedures layed out and told me there would be no
suprises with cost. I had expressed my concern with the expense when
we started all this.
The spacer wasn't suppose to happen til the 3rd appt. and I was still
debating about doing it or not. I hadn't told him that, but I
thought I had time. Now I have a bill for something I think I don't
want to happen. I'm not paying if we don't do it. I don't think I
should, since he is the one that altered our proceedure agreement
without consulting me.
Sorry, I'm rambling in my frustration and dread. I hope i made sense.
Joanna (who hates dealing with crap like this)
Oh, and Jack brushes every day. He's not the healthiest eater
though.
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Pam G.
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Wilkinson6@... writes:
> This is the discussion i have to have tomorrow and this guy isMaybe you should try to find another dentist.
> intimidating.
>
Pam G.
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nellebelle
> > > snip>>>>My dd's first dental x-rays caught a misodent, an abnormal tooth growingupwards, lying between the roots of her permanent central incisors within
the palate, heading for her nasal cavity. It took immediate oral surgery to
remove it; it was already 5/8" long, and would have broken through into her
nose eventually, killing the incisors in the process.> > > >
X-rays when I was a teen showed two molars growing sideways. I finally had them removed in my 30s. They had not yet given me any problems, other than appearing in x-rays. The dentist who convinced me to have them removed said, if left in, they would increase my chance of cancer in my sinuses. Ironically, I never had sinus problems before they were removed, but have since their removal.
If I could do it over, I wouldn't have had any of the six teeth pulled that I have over my lifetime. All of them pulled because they were "high risk for causing problems in the future". None because they actually were causing problems.
Mary Ellen
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nellebelle
Wow, this is the first time I've heard this. I thought that plaque can harbor the bacteria that cause tooth decay.
Thanks for sharing!
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- He also doesn't clean children's teeth (unless really needed) and doesn't
go crazy on cleaning adult teeth more than every other year. He says that
stripping off all the plaque is bad because you need some of it as a
protective coating. It's like taking all the bacteria off your body (with
anti-bacteria soaps etc) and leaving yourself exposed to more problems. He
even told my kids not to floss until they are in their teens.
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Thanks for sharing!
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- He also doesn't clean children's teeth (unless really needed) and doesn't
go crazy on cleaning adult teeth more than every other year. He says that
stripping off all the plaque is bad because you need some of it as a
protective coating. It's like taking all the bacteria off your body (with
anti-bacteria soaps etc) and leaving yourself exposed to more problems. He
even told my kids not to floss until they are in their teens.
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nellebelle
> > > and also to see where her big teeth are...> > >I wonder what they would do if x-rays showed a problem with her big teeth?
I guess you could start saving money for orthodontia, anyway.
I don't have insurance, and they want me to pay the same day. That right there is a pretty good reason to not have x-rays!
She hasn't had any cavities yet and she doesn't have any pain in her teeth. Plus, most of her teeth are still baby teeth. If they do have cavities that would only show up on x-rays, it wouldn't be that horrible.
Thanks for the feedback!
Mary Ellen
Who finally watched Little Shop of Horrors, with Rick & Steve. Reminded me of the dentists I went to when I was a kid. Seemed they absolutely jammed that Novocain needle in!
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nellebelle
I just had a reminder phone call from the dental office. I asked her about the x-rays and she said the dentist must do x-rays, because he can't do a complete exam without them.
I am looking for another dentist.
Mary Ellen
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I am looking for another dentist.
Mary Ellen
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nellebelle
I can't believe this. The second dentist I called also said x-rays are mandatory for a new patient. Otherwise the dentist can be held liable for problems he didn't diagnose because he wasn't aware of them because they could only be diagnosed via x-ray.
Mary Ellen
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Mary Ellen
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In a message dated 5/6/03 12:18:03 PM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< Otherwise the dentist can be held liable for problems he didn't diagnose
because he wasn't aware of them because they could only be diagnosed via
x-ray.
<< Otherwise the dentist can be held liable for problems he didn't diagnose
because he wasn't aware of them because they could only be diagnosed via
x-ray.
>>Maybe you could sign a waiver or release?
[email protected]
In a message dated 5/6/2003 3:18:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nellebelle@... writes:
Laura D
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nellebelle@... writes:
> I just had a reminder phone call from the dental office. I asked her aboutSo would I, that's ridiculous.
> the x-rays and she said the dentist must do x-rays, because he can't do a
> complete exam without them.
>
> I am looking for another dentist.
>
> Mary Ellen
>
Laura D
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[email protected]
In a message dated 5/6/03 3:26:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nellebelle@... writes:
ready for. Phillip still hasn't had any X rays yet although they ask with
each visit.
Pam G
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nellebelle@... writes:
> I just had a reminder phone call from the dental office. I asked her aboutOur dentist is great. She doesn't make the boys do anything they aren't
> the x-rays and she said the dentist must do x-rays, because he can't do a
> complete exam without them.
>
>
ready for. Phillip still hasn't had any X rays yet although they ask with
each visit.
Pam G
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