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In a message dated 5/5/2003 8:36:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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> > Hi I am new here , My name is Robyn and my hubby and I live with our 7
> >children in Florida. I saw the post on VBAC's , I had 4 c-sections then 3
> >vbac's afterwards. I went to a midwife and she was awesome. Anybody can do
>
> >it. Robyn

I wanted a vbac with my last two but doctors said no. I do wonder if I would
have done ok with one. My first was 7.5 almost c-section and the last two
where c's. They where 10-12 and 9-4. We have been trying for another and I
would like to go vbac. Doctors keep telling me that if I go Vbac it could
kill me or the baby. Is this true?

Laura D


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Kerrin or Ralph Taylor

Hi Laura.

I don't know the particulars about your case and it would depend on why you had cesareans, but I was told all those horror stories too and they were outright lies. At least it is far less likely to kill you or the baby than a cesarean. I know that there are many cases where medical interventions save lives, but most cesareans are unnecessary. Having had a cesarean is not a good reason to have another...and another. It is a huge scam. Doctors make a lot more money out of surgery than normal birth. there is no statistical evidence that a scarred uterus is more likely to rupture than an unscarred one in an otherwise healthy woman.

I recommend that you read everything you can find on the topic to help with your decision. Get informed.

All the best,
Kerrin.


>>>I wanted a vbac with my last two but doctors said no. I do wonder if I would
have done ok with one. My first was 7.5 almost c-section and the last two
where c's. They where 10-12 and 9-4. We have been trying for another and I
would like to go vbac. Doctors keep telling me that if I go Vbac it could
kill me or the baby. Is this true?

Laura D


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In a message dated 5/6/2003 6:36:50 AM Eastern Standard Time,
kerrin@... writes:

> . there is no statistical evidence that a scarred uterus is more likely to
> rupture than an unscarred one in an otherwise healthy woman.
>
> I recommend that you read everything you can find on the topic to help with
> your decision. Get informed.
>
> All the best,
> Kerrin.

Yup, that's what I was told. I will look further into this before we become
pregnant again.
Thank you,

Laura D


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In a message dated 5/6/03 8:10:26 AM, HMSL2@... writes:

<< there is no statistical evidence that a scarred uterus is more likely to
> rupture than an unscarred one in an otherwise healthy woman. >>

And it doesn't even make plain sense. Scar tissue is stronger than regular
skin. The idea that a new incision might open up before it's grown back is
real. The idea that a healed incision would is nuts. Nobody has another
baby within two or three months of a cesarean. If it's been a year or two,
that place is TOTALLY healed and the more scarred the stronger, it seems to
me. Stretch marks seem more dangerous than scars (but then they're probably
some kind of scars too).

Another woman and I were the organizers of the New Mexico chapter of Cesarean
Prevention Movement in 1988 or so. She had a [what's the term?] scar,
vertical, really big scar. I had a transverse not-much-showing scar. She
had two v-bacs just fine.

Sandra

nellebelle

I read somewhere that pitocin increases your chance of rupture.

Mary Ellen
----- snip-----there is no statistical evidence that a scarred uterus is more likely to rupture than an unscarred one in an otherwise healthy woman.


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In a message dated 5/6/2003 12:33:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
nellebelle@... writes:

> I read somewhere that pitocin increases your chance of rupture.
>
> Mary Ellen

Had pitocin with my first. Had reduced heart rate almost went section and it
was awful on me. Really ruined the birthing experience. After that mess I was
glad my next was a section but now that I have had a second section I wish I
would have pushed for a vbac on the last one. Plus on both sections I was
kept at the hospital three additional days due to illious (sp) and on the
last one I was back at the hospital a month later for a possible intestine
blockage. The worst part a year later I still have this pouch that is
driving me insane!
Here they tell Vbac Moms that they have to go to the Major hospitals and they
are both over an hour away. Not something I wanted to attempt in labor.

Laura D


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Stephanie Elms

> > I recommend that you read everything you can find on the
> topic to help with
> > your decision. Get informed.

A great place to start is with the International Cesarean Awareness Network (ICAN). They have
a great website and an AWESOME email list. Great supportive women...some are trying
for vbac, some are just processing their sections, some are midwives, some are doulas.

here is their blurb:

The ICAN email list is an online support group for anyone wishing to discuss birth and cesarean issues. Topics of discussion frequently include how to avoid an unnecessary cesarean, preparing for VBAC (Vaginal Birth After Cesarean), healing and grieving from a difficult or traumatic previous birth, how to find a caregiver who is supportive of vaginal birth and VBAC, informed consent, childbirth education, the role of doulas and midwives, birth stories, etc. The list is made up primarily of mothers, in addition to some doulas, midwives, childbirth educators, and occasionally fathers. You can choose to receive all messages posted to the group as individual emails, or grouped together in digests. When you join the list, please offer an introduction to the group, perhaps through telling your birth stories or explaining your interest in ICAN. We look forward to chatting with you!

To join go to http://www.ican-online.org/ and click on community, then ICAN news group.

Good luck!

Stephanie E.

Fetteroll

on 5/6/03 10:46 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> And it doesn't even make plain sense. Scar tissue is stronger than regular
> skin. The idea that a new incision might open up before it's grown back is
> real. The idea that a healed incision would is nuts.

Scar tissue is tough. But it isn't as stretchy. I have a great big scar on
my stomach. If I pull on the unscarred skin it just stretches. If I pull on
the scar it indents, like the impression a string would make.

Joyce