Re: [AlwaysLearning] adoption
Alan & Brenda Leonard
4/30/03 01:03:
My sister and I were both adopted in the 1960's, she from Washington state
and me from Illinois. Both our birth certificates indicate city of birth
correctly, but mother and father are listed as our adopted parents. The
original birth certificate is inacessible by court order. I know, I've
tried to get it.
What you're missing here is that it was (likely still is) within the bounds
of adoption law to do this. If it's legal, it's not falsification of
documents. There is a law permitting it.
brenda
> That would be falsification of documents. Jesus. I don't doubt some stateCommon practice in virtually all states from when I was adopted, at least.
> is doing it, but I doubt all states are doing it.
My sister and I were both adopted in the 1960's, she from Washington state
and me from Illinois. Both our birth certificates indicate city of birth
correctly, but mother and father are listed as our adopted parents. The
original birth certificate is inacessible by court order. I know, I've
tried to get it.
What you're missing here is that it was (likely still is) within the bounds
of adoption law to do this. If it's legal, it's not falsification of
documents. There is a law permitting it.
brenda
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/30/03 5:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< The
original birth certificate is inacessible by court order. I know, I've
tried to get it. >>
Not if it was in WA state.
YOU can't get it, but you could hire W.A.R.M. for a mere $350.
They will access the court records and perform a search for you. If contact
is made, they will ask birth mother/parents if contact by adoptee is
acceptable. If it is, you will be given the information. If not, it's still
possible to have WARM ask some questions for you.
Depends.
WARM is Washington Adoption Rights Movement and they've been doing this for a
long time. Other states are following their example and starting up mediator
programs that are similar.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected] writes:
<< The
original birth certificate is inacessible by court order. I know, I've
tried to get it. >>
Not if it was in WA state.
YOU can't get it, but you could hire W.A.R.M. for a mere $350.
They will access the court records and perform a search for you. If contact
is made, they will ask birth mother/parents if contact by adoptee is
acceptable. If it is, you will be given the information. If not, it's still
possible to have WARM ask some questions for you.
Depends.
WARM is Washington Adoption Rights Movement and they've been doing this for a
long time. Other states are following their example and starting up mediator
programs that are similar.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected]
In a message dated 4/30/03 2:25:43 PM, abtleo@... writes:
<< What you're missing here is that it was (likely still is) within the bounds
of adoption law to do this. If it's legal, it's not falsification of
documents. There is a law permitting it. >>
What I'm missing is the principle of who made legal that what is still called
"certificate of live birth" or "birth certificate" is not that at all.
Sandra
<< What you're missing here is that it was (likely still is) within the bounds
of adoption law to do this. If it's legal, it's not falsification of
documents. There is a law permitting it. >>
What I'm missing is the principle of who made legal that what is still called
"certificate of live birth" or "birth certificate" is not that at all.
Sandra