Re:adoption and birth certificates
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**As far as the law is concerned, once that child is adopted, they are equal
to a birth child.
The birth certificate is even changed to reflect you as the mother. **
**Somehow I missed this, a week ago (nearly).
That would be falsification of documents. Jesus. I don't doubt some state
is doing it, but I doubt all states are doing it.**
All states are doing it. Many change not only the names, but places and other
information as well. What's more, in most of these United States, the
original birth certificate is "sealed", and the adoptee is not allowed to
access it without a court order. A very few states now allow adult adoptees
access to information about their own births, most with the provision that
the birth parent can veto the access. In Nebraska, an adoptee can get his
original birth certificate at age 25 if the birth parent has consented UNLESS
his adoptive parent objects.
From Bastard Nation:
**Most adult adoptees in the U.S. and Canada are denied legal access to their
own original birth records and adoption decree. This is not the case in many
places around the world. In the U.S. and Canada Influential adoption industry
lobbyists perpetuate bizarre notions of a beneficial "permanent anonymity"
imposed on all in the adoption experience so as to protect their ability to
continue acting as a completely unaccountable industry - something unique to
the adoption industry. ** http://www.bastards.org/activism/
http://bastardnation.com/
Deborah in IL
to a birth child.
The birth certificate is even changed to reflect you as the mother. **
**Somehow I missed this, a week ago (nearly).
That would be falsification of documents. Jesus. I don't doubt some state
is doing it, but I doubt all states are doing it.**
All states are doing it. Many change not only the names, but places and other
information as well. What's more, in most of these United States, the
original birth certificate is "sealed", and the adoptee is not allowed to
access it without a court order. A very few states now allow adult adoptees
access to information about their own births, most with the provision that
the birth parent can veto the access. In Nebraska, an adoptee can get his
original birth certificate at age 25 if the birth parent has consented UNLESS
his adoptive parent objects.
From Bastard Nation:
**Most adult adoptees in the U.S. and Canada are denied legal access to their
own original birth records and adoption decree. This is not the case in many
places around the world. In the U.S. and Canada Influential adoption industry
lobbyists perpetuate bizarre notions of a beneficial "permanent anonymity"
imposed on all in the adoption experience so as to protect their ability to
continue acting as a completely unaccountable industry - something unique to
the adoption industry. ** http://www.bastards.org/activism/
http://bastardnation.com/
Deborah in IL
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In a message dated 4/30/03 12:38:21 AM, dacunefare@... writes:
<< In Nebraska, an adoptee can get his
original birth certificate at age 25 if the birth parent has consented UNLESS
his adoptive parent objects.
I suppose I can see the birth parent saying "I want to be free from this
until I die." I guess. But for the adoptive parents to have a veto over the
legal rights of a 25 year old who's mentally competent seems wrong to me.
I thought there were adoption papers separate from birth certificates.
Well!! Then if a kid doesn't have a birth certificate (as happens here with
hippie births from the 1970 and 80's and now lots of those kids are wanting
passports and have no proof of nationality), he can just be adopted and get a
brand new birth certificate.
Sandra
<< In Nebraska, an adoptee can get his
original birth certificate at age 25 if the birth parent has consented UNLESS
his adoptive parent objects.
>>Consented 25 years before or they still have say-so over their grown children?
I suppose I can see the birth parent saying "I want to be free from this
until I die." I guess. But for the adoptive parents to have a veto over the
legal rights of a 25 year old who's mentally competent seems wrong to me.
I thought there were adoption papers separate from birth certificates.
Well!! Then if a kid doesn't have a birth certificate (as happens here with
hippie births from the 1970 and 80's and now lots of those kids are wanting
passports and have no proof of nationality), he can just be adopted and get a
brand new birth certificate.
Sandra
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In a message dated 4/30/03 5:03:04 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Then if a kid doesn't have a birth certificate (as happens here with
hippie births from the 1970 and 80's and now lots of those kids are wanting
passports and have no proof of nationality), he can just be adopted and get
a
brand new birth certificate. >>
Ah hell, just make one on your computer...seems like less hassle. :)
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected] writes:
<< Then if a kid doesn't have a birth certificate (as happens here with
hippie births from the 1970 and 80's and now lots of those kids are wanting
passports and have no proof of nationality), he can just be adopted and get
a
brand new birth certificate. >>
Ah hell, just make one on your computer...seems like less hassle. :)
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear