THank you all
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In a message dated 4/29/03 6:04:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Suddenly birth certificates seem so useless. Yet that's what they base
all
kinds of legality on from nationality (pretty important sometimes) to
driving, passports, retirement and social security.
thing they change is the birth parents names. For obvious reasons.
Here's a true story though.
A friend of mine gave birth at home for all of her births. Never filed for
the birth certificates at the health department.
Well, her oldest got married a couple years ago, and had a honeymoon to
Mexico planned. Jo was trying to figure out what she should do about the
birth cert. So she decided that government beuracracy being what it is, they
wouldn't have a clue what a certificate from other places should look like,
only want to see some document that looked official.
She MADE a birth certificate on her home computer. Copied one that was real
and made it look all official.
No one questioned it EVER.
It's all a scam.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
[email protected] writes:
<< Suddenly birth certificates seem so useless. Yet that's what they base
all
kinds of legality on from nationality (pretty important sometimes) to
driving, passports, retirement and social security.
>>The place of birth, time, doctor etc.. all remains as the original. The only
thing they change is the birth parents names. For obvious reasons.
Here's a true story though.
A friend of mine gave birth at home for all of her births. Never filed for
the birth certificates at the health department.
Well, her oldest got married a couple years ago, and had a honeymoon to
Mexico planned. Jo was trying to figure out what she should do about the
birth cert. So she decided that government beuracracy being what it is, they
wouldn't have a clue what a certificate from other places should look like,
only want to see some document that looked official.
She MADE a birth certificate on her home computer. Copied one that was real
and made it look all official.
No one questioned it EVER.
It's all a scam.
Ren
"They dined on mince, and slices of quince, Which they ate with a runcible
spoon;
And hand in hand, on the edge of the sand, they danced by the light of the
moon."
--The Owl and the Pussycat
Edward Lear
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In a message dated 4/30/2003 12:35:32 AM Central Daylight Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
Administration as proof to get a duplicate SS card.
Tuck
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starsuncloud@... writes:
> She MADE a birth certificate on her home computer. Copied one that was realA birth certificate isn't even acceptable by the Social Security
> and made it look all official.
> No one questioned it EVER.
> It's all a scam.
>
Administration as proof to get a duplicate SS card.
Tuck
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[email protected]
In a message dated 4/30/03 6:28:04 AM, Tuckervill@... writes:
<<
A birth certificate isn't even acceptable by the Social Security
Administration as proof to get a duplicate SS card. >>
Well what the hell do they WANT then?
We had to apply for SS numbers as soon as the babies were born, using a form
the hospital gave us for that purpose. What can we prove once we've left
the hospital?
Crazy bureaucratic blankety-blank...
Sandra
<<
A birth certificate isn't even acceptable by the Social Security
Administration as proof to get a duplicate SS card. >>
Well what the hell do they WANT then?
We had to apply for SS numbers as soon as the babies were born, using a form
the hospital gave us for that purpose. What can we prove once we've left
the hospital?
Crazy bureaucratic blankety-blank...
Sandra
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In a message dated 4/30/2003 4:32:40 PM Central Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
grown sons, just by showing my driver's licenses.
Tuck
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SandraDodd@... writes:
> A birth certificate isn't even acceptable by the Social SecurityA driver's license! No kidding. I can even go get a duplicate card for my
> Administration as proof to get a duplicate SS card. >>
>
> Well what the hell do they WANT then?
>
grown sons, just by showing my driver's licenses.
Tuck
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nellebelle
OK, so what did you have to show to get a driver's license?
I used my kid's birth certificates to get photo ID from the state licensing bureau.
The lady at the counter asked how tall they were and how much they weighed. I didn't know either, but the kids knew their weight. This lady was indignant that I didn't know their height. I said, they are growing all the time! It makes me wonder why they don't actually measure people for driver's licenses. I'm 5'2", but I wonder how far away from that I could tell them before they would question it. Could I say 5'6" and they would just write it down? My mother is now about 4" shorter than she used to be, but I'm sure her license doesn't reflect that change.
Mary Ellen
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I used my kid's birth certificates to get photo ID from the state licensing bureau.
The lady at the counter asked how tall they were and how much they weighed. I didn't know either, but the kids knew their weight. This lady was indignant that I didn't know their height. I said, they are growing all the time! It makes me wonder why they don't actually measure people for driver's licenses. I'm 5'2", but I wonder how far away from that I could tell them before they would question it. Could I say 5'6" and they would just write it down? My mother is now about 4" shorter than she used to be, but I'm sure her license doesn't reflect that change.
Mary Ellen
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In a message dated 5/1/03 10:21:27 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< OK, so what did you have to show to get a driver's license?
I used my kid's birth certificates to get photo ID from the state licensing
bureau. >>
When my kids got photo IDs I used birth certificates. They wanted school
IDs, too, but I said they didn't have any. She stared at me without blinking
for a long time as though maybe I should restate my truth so she would
recognize it and could go about her routine business.
But Kirby just came home with a certificate. It says it cannot be copied on
penalty of law. I think I'll make a copy just to keep, for us and maybe for
the insurance company. <g>
But it says that to get his provisional license he will have to have that
certificate (which says he finished driver's education, including the actual
road-driving experience), a list of 50 hours of driving signed by the
parents, his birth certificate (original) and social security card (original).
We do actually have all that stuff (except he hasn't finished the 50 hours,
which is fine, and there's a six-month time for learner's permit too, but we
don't have to physically bring in the six months <g>).
Different states differ differently, doubtlessly.
Sandra
<< OK, so what did you have to show to get a driver's license?
I used my kid's birth certificates to get photo ID from the state licensing
bureau. >>
When my kids got photo IDs I used birth certificates. They wanted school
IDs, too, but I said they didn't have any. She stared at me without blinking
for a long time as though maybe I should restate my truth so she would
recognize it and could go about her routine business.
But Kirby just came home with a certificate. It says it cannot be copied on
penalty of law. I think I'll make a copy just to keep, for us and maybe for
the insurance company. <g>
But it says that to get his provisional license he will have to have that
certificate (which says he finished driver's education, including the actual
road-driving experience), a list of 50 hours of driving signed by the
parents, his birth certificate (original) and social security card (original).
We do actually have all that stuff (except he hasn't finished the 50 hours,
which is fine, and there's a six-month time for learner's permit too, but we
don't have to physically bring in the six months <g>).
Different states differ differently, doubtlessly.
Sandra
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In a message dated 5/1/03 10:21:27 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< I said, they are growing all the time! It makes me wonder why they don't
actually measure people for driver's licenses. I'm 5'2", but I wonder how
far away from that I could tell them before they would question it. Could I
say 5'6" and they would just write it down? >>
Oh! Oh!! I was still growing at one point in my life, and when I got a
learner's permit I was 5'4" so when I went in for my real license, I just
said 5'5" assuming NATURALLY I had grown in that time.
Well, I hadn't. So the next time I got it renewed I was honest and said that
should be 5'4".
So for a while I was 5'5" just as surely as if a judge had changed my birth
parents. Government papers. *LUV*
When Keith signed up for the draft he obnoxiously put his height in inches
and his weight in kilograms (72" and 108 kg.) and they didn't notice so they
put 7'4" and 108 lbs. Who could draft a giraffish giant like that!?
Sandra
<< I said, they are growing all the time! It makes me wonder why they don't
actually measure people for driver's licenses. I'm 5'2", but I wonder how
far away from that I could tell them before they would question it. Could I
say 5'6" and they would just write it down? >>
Oh! Oh!! I was still growing at one point in my life, and when I got a
learner's permit I was 5'4" so when I went in for my real license, I just
said 5'5" assuming NATURALLY I had grown in that time.
Well, I hadn't. So the next time I got it renewed I was honest and said that
should be 5'4".
So for a while I was 5'5" just as surely as if a judge had changed my birth
parents. Government papers. *LUV*
When Keith signed up for the draft he obnoxiously put his height in inches
and his weight in kilograms (72" and 108 kg.) and they didn't notice so they
put 7'4" and 108 lbs. Who could draft a giraffish giant like that!?
Sandra
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I had a typo on that last post; sorry. 74 (6'2") inches, not 72 (6')
although I think Keith cheats there too and is only 6'1.5 if he stretches.
He had back surgery at 19 or 20, though, and he might have once been 6'2
legitimately. I think he just said so and the driver's license people wrote
it down! <bwg>
Sandra
although I think Keith cheats there too and is only 6'1.5 if he stretches.
He had back surgery at 19 or 20, though, and he might have once been 6'2
legitimately. I think he just said so and the driver's license people wrote
it down! <bwg>
Sandra