marji

Hi folks.

I just have to tell you what my son, 8-year-old Liam, just said to me. He
really blows me away sometimes. He told me that he had been having a
conversation with a friend of his, a schooled, for lack of a better term
right now, typically parented kid. They were discussing, I guess, behavior
or something like that. Liam's friend remarked that it was most desirable
to be "good." But, Liam argued that it was better to be "normal." He said
to me just now, "I told _____ that it's better to be normal, you know, to
be yourself. Right, Mom?" I think I only started to understand that when
I was 37 years old, and I'm not quite sure I totally have it down yet! I
do know that I have never overtly said anything like that to him.

I couldn't think of any folks better to share that with than you. See you!

Marji

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In a message dated 4/10/03 8:05:21 AM, marji@... writes:

<< "I told _____ that it's better to be normal, you know, to
be yourself. Right, Mom?" I think I only started to understand that when
I was 37 years old, and I'm not quite sure I totally have it down yet! I
do know that I have never overtly said anything like that to him. >>

Very cool.

I will use this topic, then to tell you Holly's three wishes.

I was reading poetry to her one night last week, and one was about catching a
fairy and making wishes. She asked me what my wishes would be if I could
have three wishes, and she said it couldn't be anything like world peace or
that the women in Iraq could wear whatever they wanted to. It had to be
selfish.

So I came up with three pretty mundane grown-up wishes about the house being
paid off, and enough money to maintain it without Keith working, and a new
van.

Boring.

Holly's were this:

Invisible eyelids so she could see with her eyes closed. I told her some
snakes and I thought maybe some lizards had that. She was happy to hear
that, and hadn't known.

The second wish was to know whether we live other lives.

Third wish was dependent on the second. If the answer was yes, she wanted to
remember past lives. If the answer was no, she wanted a thousand dollars.

I thought it was way more thoughtful and creative than I would have wished at
eleven. I might have wished for a bunch of books and a hundred dollars, I
think. Inflation accounts for some of that, but unschooling has to account
for more.

Sandra

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In a message dated 4/10/03 12:13:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Invisible eyelids so she could see with her eyes closed

That would be cool.
Pam G.


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BADOLBILZ

She sounds like such a special and neat person, Sandra. I'm so glad
there are people like her in the world. Heidi Case

SandraDodd@... wrote:

>In a message dated 4/10/03 8:05:21 AM, marji@... writes:
>
><< "I told _____ that it's better to be normal, you know, to
>be yourself. Right, Mom?" I think I only started to understand that when
>I was 37 years old, and I'm not quite sure I totally have it down yet! I
>do know that I have never overtly said anything like that to him. >>
>
>Very cool.
>
>I will use this topic, then to tell you Holly's three wishes.
>
>I was reading poetry to her one night last week, and one was about catching a
>fairy and making wishes. She asked me what my wishes would be if I could
>have three wishes, and she said it couldn't be anything like world peace or
>that the women in Iraq could wear whatever they wanted to. It had to be
>selfish.
>
>So I came up with three pretty mundane grown-up wishes about the house being
>paid off, and enough money to maintain it without Keith working, and a new
>van.
>
>Boring.
>
>Holly's were this:
>
>Invisible eyelids so she could see with her eyes closed. I told her some
>snakes and I thought maybe some lizards had that. She was happy to hear
>that, and hadn't known.
>
>The second wish was to know whether we live other lives.
>
>Third wish was dependent on the second. If the answer was yes, she wanted to
>remember past lives. If the answer was no, she wanted a thousand dollars.
>
>I thought it was way more thoughtful and creative than I would have wished at
>eleven. I might have wished for a bunch of books and a hundred dollars, I
>think. Inflation accounts for some of that, but unschooling has to account
>for more.
>
>Sandra
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Tia Leschke

> I thought it was way more thoughtful and creative than I would have wished
at
> eleven.

That *is* cool. I always used to wish for infinite wishes. <g>
Tia

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...

Dana

I read Holly's list to my kids, Sandra, and here is Lauren's (age 10)
response:

A dog I could teach to do agility (we have a 3-legged Basset hound....)

A pet dragon

A straw-bale house, except I wouldn't live in it. It would be my puppet
studio, and I would give puppet shows and give the money to charity.
Hmmm...Very interesting!
Dana
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Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AlwaysLearning] Being Normal...


>
> In a message dated 4/10/03 8:05:21 AM, marji@... writes:
>
> << "I told _____ that it's better to be normal, you know, to
> be yourself. Right, Mom?" I think I only started to understand that when
> I was 37 years old, and I'm not quite sure I totally have it down yet! I
> do know that I have never overtly said anything like that to him. >>
>
> Very cool.
>
> I will use this topic, then to tell you Holly's three wishes.
>
> I was reading poetry to her one night last week, and one was about
catching a
> fairy and making wishes. She asked me what my wishes would be if I could
> have three wishes, and she said it couldn't be anything like world peace
or
> that the women in Iraq could wear whatever they wanted to. It had to be
> selfish.
>
> So I came up with three pretty mundane grown-up wishes about the house
being
> paid off, and enough money to maintain it without Keith working, and a new
> van.
>
> Boring.
>
> Holly's were this:
>
> Invisible eyelids so she could see with her eyes closed. I told her some
> snakes and I thought maybe some lizards had that. She was happy to hear
> that, and hadn't known.
>
> The second wish was to know whether we live other lives.
>
> Third wish was dependent on the second. If the answer was yes, she wanted
to
> remember past lives. If the answer was no, she wanted a thousand dollars.
>
> I thought it was way more thoughtful and creative than I would have wished
at
> eleven. I might have wished for a bunch of books and a hundred dollars, I
> think. Inflation accounts for some of that, but unschooling has to
account
> for more.
>
> Sandra
>
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In a message dated 4/10/2003 2:42:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
leschke@... writes:


> That *is* cool. I always used to wish for infinite wishes. <g>
>

I think the genie said that was a no-no!

~Kelly


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In a message dated 4/10/2003 2:44:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hoffmanwilson@... writes:


> A dog I could teach to do agility (we have a 3-legged Basset hound....

LOL!

If you have the room, time, etc. there are MANY breeders of many different
breeds of dogs that are willing to GIVE a child a dog of her very own for
agility. Contact me off-list of you're interested!

~Kelly


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Tia Leschke

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
saftety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin
leschke@...
> > That *is* cool. I always used to wish for infinite wishes. <g>
> >
>
> I think the genie said that was a no-no!

Gee, I guess that's why it never worked. <g>
Tia

Deborah Lewis

Ok, Dylan (also 10) said "Ray Harryhausen and A LOT of clay." <g>

And a Panda if he would be happy here.

Deb L, hoping Lovely Fur is feeling good...

***here is Lauren's (age 10)
response:

A dog I could teach to do agility (we have a 3-legged Basset hound....)

A pet dragon

A straw-bale house, except I wouldn't live in it. It would be my puppet
studio, and I would give puppet shows and give the money to charity.
Hmmm...Very interesting!***

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In a message dated 4/10/2003 5:37:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ddzimlew@... writes:


> ***here is Lauren's (age 10)
> response:
>
> A dog I could teach to do agility (we have a 3-legged Basset hound....)
>
> A pet dragon
>
> A straw-bale house, except I wouldn't live in it. It would be my puppet
> studio, and I would give puppet shows and give the money to charity.
> Hmmm...Very interesting!***

Duncan, 7, says:

1) nobody goes to stupid school

2) 2 X-box games, Zapper and Lord of the Rings II

3) all of the Entzodia (sp?) cards

<G>

And I'm working on that agility dog for Lauren!
~Kelly


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Dana

> Deb L, hoping Lovely Fur is feeling good...

Thanks for asking, Deb! :) She's doing so well since her amputation! It's
like she was never sick! She has gained all her weight back and is eating
and exercising well!!
Dana

Kate Green

She asked me what my wishes would be if I could
>have three wishes, and she said it couldn't be anything like world peace or
>that the women in Iraq could wear whatever they wanted to.

Not to be picky, only to clarify. Women in Iraq can wear whatever they want
as it's a secular country. People there were often jailed for being "too
religious" in their views. In some places the call to prayer is being
broadcast for the first time in 20 plus years.

It had to be
>selfish.
>
>So I came up with three pretty mundane grown-up wishes about the house being
>paid off, and enough money to maintain it without Keith working, and a new
>van.

I asked my kids this and they all had different but neat answers. I have to
admit that for me it was hard to move away from a financial wish as it
seems that would then take care of the other wishes. How sad I felt to be
so consumer driven!!! Made me re-evaluate myself:)

Kate

>
>Boring.
>
>

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In a message dated 4/12/03 7:28:34 AM, karegree@... writes:

<< Not to be picky, only to clarify. Women in Iraq can wear whatever they want
as it's a secular country. >>

I knew she meant Afghanistan when she said it, but I didn't correct her
because it was just in the course of her clarifying the rules for the three
wishes. I didn't tell her about Iran or anything either, just went with her
examples of what would be too unselfish.

But thanks for the reminder. If I get a chance to bring it up, I will. We
need to get a new globe that doesn't have the Soviet Union, so maybe that
will be a good time to chit chat about what and who's where and what they're
wearing this season.

Sandra