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In a message dated 3/31/03 5:57:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:


> but he seems to
> think I'm the only freak in the world that will protect the quiet in a
> house
> so a kid can sleep until noon. I told him there were others. <g>
>
>
When people ask me what Trevor (14) is "doing" these days, I reply -
"growing". He mainly eats and sleeps. He has grown inches and doesn't seem
to be slowing. My oldest son is 6'5" tall, and Trevor seems to be headed in
that direction. (By the way I'm a short (for this list I guess) 5'3" tall -
I tell the kids I used to be 5'4", but got shorter from carrying them in
packs on my front and back all those years :-)-when they tease me about being
the short person in the family!).

All of the kids in the family seem to really need lots of sleep from about
ages 13-15. They love to stay up really late, and I protect their sleep into
the morning. I know my grandparents felt you were a "better" person if you
got up early, but they aren't around to watch our "lazy" ways!! It is all
too soon after that that the kids get involved in work and classes and then
they need to be on a schedule. I think that is a healthy freedom - to beable
to sleep as your body needs it.

Ok, here I'll confess about the day I was being oh, so quiet because Trevor
was sleeping in. Finally it was getting really late, so I peeked in, and he
wasn't there!!! He had gone to his Dad's house without me being aware of it
(he does leave notes, but sometimes I miss them!!). All that wasted care!!
:-)

Connie



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In a message dated 3/31/03 8:20:35 AM, conniecolten@... writes:

<< All of the kids in the family seem to really need lots of sleep from about
ages 13-15. They love to stay up really late, and I protect their sleep into
the morning. >>

Kirby's 16 now and not sleeping as much. I hadn't considered that he might
be past the greater need! I hope he still grows a bit. He has a mixed bag
of genetic potential as to height. He's 5'10" and seems to have stopped.
His dad's 6'1" but the tallest in his family. But he has a taller uncle and
I have a couple of tall uncles. So we have no idea.

Today's the first day for nearly two weeks that Kirby can sleep late. He
doesn't have to be at work until 3:00. It will be interesting to see,
though, whether he will wake up naturally earlier (or whether he forgot to
turn off his driver's-ed alarm, now that that's over) and whether the lure of
Zelda will get him out of bed before noon anyway.

Marty is 14 and really growing fast. His sleep time is generally 2:00 a.m.
to 11:30.

Holly just lately started sleeping a lot. She's 11 and a third <g>, hasn't
started her period but is starting to have other symptoms of the big changes.
Facial imperfections (which she HATES, and she's getting a dry rash around
her nose that's really bugging her--any ideas are welcome!) and moods.

Sandra

Sandra

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In a message dated 3/31/03 8:13:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Holly just lately started sleeping a lot. She's 11 and a third <g>, hasn't
> started her period but is starting to have other symptoms of the big
> changes.
>

Sandra,

Kass and Kree are 11 and 1/2 and we are noticing a tiredness they are not
used to. The mood swings are tremendous and DH is scared to take them riding
in the dessert for fear they will start their periods the moment they get
there and I won't be around. This weekend we bought a package of pads for
when "it" happens. Kass said "Don't forget to buy those things mom," her twin
Kree who only buys boys clothes almost had a heart attack and exclaimed
"Sissy, we don't need those yet!!!". She wanted to hide them at the check out
too.

I don't understand where that part comes from. I have always told them that
that day will be a celebratory one and the meaning of transition to
womanhood. I've also warned them about severe mood swings (which we are going
through now) and although your hormones may feel out of whack, being hateful
or hurtful to others will only make you feel worse.

The woman in me will be proud that day, but the mommy in me wishes they could
stay little.

Rhonda


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In a message dated 3/31/03 10:01:32 AM, rjhill241@... writes:

<< I don't understand where that part comes from. I have always told them
that
that day will be a celebratory one and the meaning of transition to
womanhood. >>

I've said it will be fun for about an hour and then never fun again. <g>

But that it's a sign of health and just one of those things.

Holly's had pads for a year. There they sit. Better than not. One friend
of mine didn't start until she was fifteen, and she was worried. Looking
back, I think she was really lucky!

Sandra

Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

>"Sissy, we don't need those yet!!!". She wanted to hide them at the check out
>too.

If she's really shy about buying the plastic pads, you could consider
making (or buying) some flannel pads for her. She'd have to have a space
to store them during her bloom and then wash them (in the washing machine)
when she was done for the month. It's really very easy.

Frankly, I always hated it when the stickum bit on the plastic got stuck to
my leg or other sensitive bits. Ouch! ...and I find the flannel comfy, so
long as I change them in the middle of the day. On the other hand, my dd
likes to wear thongs, so they don't work for her!

Try http://www.gladrags.com
Their nighttime pads are awesome.
If you want to sew some, contact me offlist and I'll share how. It's
really, really easy (and you'll never have to buy them again!)
HeidiWD


"I prefer a person who will burn the flag and wrap themselves in the
constitution to a person who will burn the constitution and wrap themselves
in the flag" --- Molly Ivins

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In a message dated 3/31/03 10:41:46 AM Pacific Standard Time,
heidi@... writes:

> If she's really shy about buying the plastic pads, you could consider
> making (or buying) some flannel pads for her.

Kree just doesn't even want to think of the day, she could care less about
the pads. Poor kid. Thanx for the links, the girls love to sew, so we could
make it a project and maybe slip some conversation about the whole thing too.
I haven't cycled in 11 years so they never see me have to deal with it. I
truly appreciate your insight.

Thanx again,
Rhonda


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Alan & Brenda Leonard

4/1/03 17:38:

> Facial imperfections (which she HATES, and she's getting a dry rash around
> her nose that's really bugging her--any ideas are welcome!) and moods.

I wouldn't know anything to deal with teenage moodiness (is there anything
besides patience? <g>), but my acne got worse with washing, and I got dry
rash, too. Best thing I do for my face (then and now!) is wash with warm
water. Period. But I don't wear makeup; if she's into the makeup bit, she
might need something that takes it off.

brenda

Jon and Rue Kream

I LOVE Basis soap. It cleared my face right up, and it is the only
thing Dagny can use anywhere on her body. If you figure out how to help
with the moods thing, let me know. Dagny is going through it (she's 10)
and I just talk to her about what a crummy feeling it is, and that it's
not going to last forever, and give her lots of cuddling. I'm not
feeling like a big help. ~Rue

"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."


4/1/03 17:38:

> Facial imperfections (which she HATES, and she's getting a dry rash
> around her nose that's really bugging her--any ideas are welcome!) and

> moods.