Is it me?
Dawn Falbe
Ok I have to ask whether it's me or am I sane... I have noticed that a
lot of movies that are supposedly kids movies sexualize women in them or
have some sexual theme underlying. Here's an example: Stuart Little
2.. Mouse in love with Margolo the bird. Scooby Doo - Daphne showing
big b**bs off to us all and Fred.. 101 Dalmations (2) the animated one
- the female dogs are lusting over the hero dog that one of the
dalmation goes to see.. I have countless others that hubby and I have
noticed. Now I'm not a prude, in fact far from it. Coming from England
I grew up with much more of an open mind about sex, seeing nudity and
foul language on British Television was something that I did see (not
children's shows though)..I guess I'm just trying to understand the
reason there are underlying sexual references in kids movies. Maybe
it's for the kids that go to school. The reason I say that is that the
boy that lives next door to us is the same age as Zak (nearly 8) and a
couple of days ago I heard him outside talking to some older kids about
a girl he's going to date and he wants to kiss and spend time with (he
goes to a public school) whereas Zak has no idea what this boy is
talking about... ok enough ranting from me.
Dawn F.
Tucson, AZ
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lot of movies that are supposedly kids movies sexualize women in them or
have some sexual theme underlying. Here's an example: Stuart Little
2.. Mouse in love with Margolo the bird. Scooby Doo - Daphne showing
big b**bs off to us all and Fred.. 101 Dalmations (2) the animated one
- the female dogs are lusting over the hero dog that one of the
dalmation goes to see.. I have countless others that hubby and I have
noticed. Now I'm not a prude, in fact far from it. Coming from England
I grew up with much more of an open mind about sex, seeing nudity and
foul language on British Television was something that I did see (not
children's shows though)..I guess I'm just trying to understand the
reason there are underlying sexual references in kids movies. Maybe
it's for the kids that go to school. The reason I say that is that the
boy that lives next door to us is the same age as Zak (nearly 8) and a
couple of days ago I heard him outside talking to some older kids about
a girl he's going to date and he wants to kiss and spend time with (he
goes to a public school) whereas Zak has no idea what this boy is
talking about... ok enough ranting from me.
Dawn F.
Tucson, AZ
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nellebelle
I recall Stuart and Margolo having an affection for one another in the original book upon which the movies are based. I haven't seen the #2 movie though.
In Tuck Everlasting (book) the main character is 10 or 11 and has a crush on Jesse. In the movie, she is portrayed as a teen, but I've only seen the previews. The book was definitely not a love story in the romantic sense though. BTW, we enjoyed reading the book. Another by the same author is Search for Delicious.
I tend to get annoyed at changes that are made from book to movie, but it gives the kids and I a lot to talk about if we have read the book and seen the movie.
Yes, Disney films often have a love story and/or sexual tones. The entertainment industry is heavy on sex and violence. I don't think they do it just for kids who go to school though.
Mary Ellen
----- snip-----I have noticed that a
lot of movies that are supposedly kids movies sexualize women in them or
have some sexual theme underlying.
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In Tuck Everlasting (book) the main character is 10 or 11 and has a crush on Jesse. In the movie, she is portrayed as a teen, but I've only seen the previews. The book was definitely not a love story in the romantic sense though. BTW, we enjoyed reading the book. Another by the same author is Search for Delicious.
I tend to get annoyed at changes that are made from book to movie, but it gives the kids and I a lot to talk about if we have read the book and seen the movie.
Yes, Disney films often have a love story and/or sexual tones. The entertainment industry is heavy on sex and violence. I don't think they do it just for kids who go to school though.
Mary Ellen
----- snip-----I have noticed that a
lot of movies that are supposedly kids movies sexualize women in them or
have some sexual theme underlying.
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In a message dated 2/19/03 8:36:03 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< Yes, Disney films often have a love story and/or sexual tones. The
entertainment industry is heavy on sex and violence. >>
Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The "entertainment
industry" isn't doing anything new.
Sandra
<< Yes, Disney films often have a love story and/or sexual tones. The
entertainment industry is heavy on sex and violence. >>
Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The "entertainment
industry" isn't doing anything new.
Sandra
Dawn Falbe
Sandra: before I disagree can you clarify your statement. I just asked
my husband if when we talk we talk a lot about sex and violence and we
don't. So I'm not sure about what you mean. Then I thought of Jack and
the Beanstalk and Rumplestilskin and thought about the violence in that
so wasn't sure if that's what you mean. My kids have also seen very few
commercials as they watch PBS. Maybe when they get older they'll watch
more. It just seems that 3-9 is a young age to have sexual themes
shoved down your throat for no apparent reason. Unless it's that the
Disney people know that the parents are going to the movies and they
want to keep them interested and the only way to keep people interested
is talking about Sex.... I guess that would make sense for those
uncomfortable with sex or people who have the need to hear sexual
references.
Dawn F.
Tucson, AZ
Just some thoughts
In a message dated 2/19/03 8:36:03 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< Yes, Disney films often have a love story and/or sexual tones. The
entertainment industry is heavy on sex and violence. >>
Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The "entertainment
industry" isn't doing anything new.
Sandra
my husband if when we talk we talk a lot about sex and violence and we
don't. So I'm not sure about what you mean. Then I thought of Jack and
the Beanstalk and Rumplestilskin and thought about the violence in that
so wasn't sure if that's what you mean. My kids have also seen very few
commercials as they watch PBS. Maybe when they get older they'll watch
more. It just seems that 3-9 is a young age to have sexual themes
shoved down your throat for no apparent reason. Unless it's that the
Disney people know that the parents are going to the movies and they
want to keep them interested and the only way to keep people interested
is talking about Sex.... I guess that would make sense for those
uncomfortable with sex or people who have the need to hear sexual
references.
Dawn F.
Tucson, AZ
Just some thoughts
In a message dated 2/19/03 8:36:03 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< Yes, Disney films often have a love story and/or sexual tones. The
entertainment industry is heavy on sex and violence. >>
Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The "entertainment
industry" isn't doing anything new.
Sandra
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In a message dated 2/19/03 7:27:45 PM, astrologerdawn@... writes:
<< It just seems that 3-9 is a young age to have sexual themes
shoved down your throat for no apparent reason. >>
Kids that age ignore the sexuality completely. Either they gloss over it,
they don't perceive it, or they look away during kissing.
<Unless it's that the
Disney people know that the parents are going to the movies and they
want to keep them interested and the only way to keep people interested
is talking about Sex.... I guess that would make sense for those
uncomfortable with sex or people who have the need to hear sexual
references.>>
Those aren't the only choices.
Story telling, ballads, fairy tales, dramatic productions, poems, are OFTEN
about love or sex or violence. Have been since the greeks, probably earlier
than that.
What you and your husband talk about is probably kids and yards and cars,
jobs, politics, and whether to get the oven knob repaired. (Well, that's MY
house this week.)
Sandra
Sandra
<< It just seems that 3-9 is a young age to have sexual themes
shoved down your throat for no apparent reason. >>
Kids that age ignore the sexuality completely. Either they gloss over it,
they don't perceive it, or they look away during kissing.
<Unless it's that the
Disney people know that the parents are going to the movies and they
want to keep them interested and the only way to keep people interested
is talking about Sex.... I guess that would make sense for those
uncomfortable with sex or people who have the need to hear sexual
references.>>
Those aren't the only choices.
Story telling, ballads, fairy tales, dramatic productions, poems, are OFTEN
about love or sex or violence. Have been since the greeks, probably earlier
than that.
What you and your husband talk about is probably kids and yards and cars,
jobs, politics, and whether to get the oven knob repaired. (Well, that's MY
house this week.)
Sandra
Sandra
Kate Green
>< It just seems that 3-9 is a young age to have sexual themesI agree with this and yes it does seem that every movie or tv show made for
>shoved down your throat for no apparent reason. >>
kids has to have some kind of boyfriend/girlfriend theme now. Dh and I have
often groaned about it as yet again it's crammed down their throat that
they "should" be dating at age 8! I think Disney is one of the worst
offenders but I don't like the company as it is.
Society in general though pushes kids to grow up so quickly. We have had so
many people say things like "do you have a girlfriend?" to our boys -- and
that was even before they turned 10 or so! The pressure to date is really
pushed by as young as 3rd grade now which is no surprise when sex has been
in all their viewing since preschool.
>Well looking away or not acknowledging doesn't mean it doesn't have an
>Kids that age ignore the sexuality completely. Either they gloss over it,
>they don't perceive it, or they look away during kissing.
effect on them. The message is still going in. And by looking away it can
mean they are uncomfortable with it as they are trying to tune out issues
that may be too stimulating for them.
>Hey you too. We have spent the last week trying to find a place to get our
>
>What you and your husband talk about is probably kids and yards and cars,
>jobs, politics, and whether to get the oven knob repaired. (Well, that's MY
>house this week.)
oven knob replaced! Right now it's the magic of pliers (plyers --st???) Oh
gosh I can't spell that one and you're an english teacher:)
Kate
>
>Sandra
>
>Sandra
>
>
nellebelle
Good point. Those Greek Gods were into sex and violence too!
Mary Ellen
----- snip----- Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The "entertainment
industry" isn't doing anything new.
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Mary Ellen
----- snip----- Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The "entertainment
industry" isn't doing anything new.
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Nancy Wooton
on 2/20/03 7:58 AM, nellebelle at nellebelle@... wrote:
(Not to mention the rapes and slaughters, of course...)
Nancy
> Good point. Those Greek Gods were into sex and violence too!Heck, with all that begatting, the Bible ought to be rated "R" at least!
> Mary Ellen
> ----- snip----- Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence. The
> "entertainment
> industry" isn't doing anything new.
(Not to mention the rapes and slaughters, of course...)
Nancy
Kelly Grimes
>I agree for the most part, as nowhere in history has
> Human story telling is heavy on sex and violence.
> The "entertainment
> industry" isn't doing anything new.
>
> Sandra
>
human nature ever been non sexual or non violent.I do
believe that modern presentations have allowed for the
stories to be portrayed with more intense images though.
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KELLY
mama to:
RAINY
PHOENIX
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In a message dated 2/20/03 2:24:44 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< Heck, with all that begatting, the Bible ought to be rated "R" at least!
(Not to mention the rapes and slaughters, of course...) >>
But there's incest too...so maybe "X" would be more appropriate!
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< Heck, with all that begatting, the Bible ought to be rated "R" at least!
(Not to mention the rapes and slaughters, of course...) >>
But there's incest too...so maybe "X" would be more appropriate!
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson Burnett