Canada
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In a message dated 1/28/03 2:58:25 AM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< No way
I could just roll into Canada that I've discovered yet. *sigh* But
anyway... >>
Really? I never had any problem the four different occasions I went up there.
They asked a few basic questions and except for one time we were on our way.
The difficult time was when they searched our van, they were having problems
that week with something (I think it was illegal guns coming through, don't
remember) and were being hyper sensitive.
Other than that it was ultra easy.
'Course we were just passing through....are you meaning trying to live there?
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson
Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< No way
I could just roll into Canada that I've discovered yet. *sigh* But
anyway... >>
Really? I never had any problem the four different occasions I went up there.
They asked a few basic questions and except for one time we were on our way.
The difficult time was when they searched our van, they were having problems
that week with something (I think it was illegal guns coming through, don't
remember) and were being hyper sensitive.
Other than that it was ultra easy.
'Course we were just passing through....are you meaning trying to live there?
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson
Burnett
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/28/03 9:08:25 AM, starsuncloud@... writes:
<< Really? I never had any problem the four different occasions I went up
there.
They asked a few basic questions and except for one time we were on our way.
children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birth
certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones.
We had been there just a week or so.
I was surprised.
When I go to Saskatoon, though, I'm taking a passport with me. We just
didn't have them for the kids when we went to Canada then. Holly has one now
from going to England, but the boys don't.
Sandra
<< Really? I never had any problem the four different occasions I went up
there.
They asked a few basic questions and except for one time we were on our way.
>>We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not having our
children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birth
certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones.
We had been there just a week or so.
I was surprised.
When I go to Saskatoon, though, I'm taking a passport with me. We just
didn't have them for the kids when we went to Canada then. Holly has one now
from going to England, but the boys don't.
Sandra
nellebelle
I've been to Mexico twice with my children. I brought birth certificates (obtained from the county where they were born) and photo ID (from our state driver's license bureau) and a letter from dh stating that he was aware of our travel plans (he wasn't with us at border crossings). Nobody ever asked them for any of it. They were kinda bummed, as they were quite proud of their photo ID.
When you say "getting out" do you mean from the US officials?
Mary Ellen
When you say "getting out" do you mean from the US officials?
Mary Ellen
----- Original Message ----- but getting out they gave us a hard time for not having our
children's birth certificates or passports.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Tia Leschke
>our
> We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not having
> children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birthIf it was on the way out, you were talking to US Immigration. But I
> certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones.
actually got that on the way back to Canada this fall. They wondered why
Lars doesn't have picture ID. For Pete's sake, he's only 15. No, he was
still 14 then. But at 6'3" and more than 200 lbs. he looks a lot older than
he is. <g>
Tia
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In a message dated 1/28/03 11:42:52 AM, nellebelle@... writes:
<< When you say "getting out" do you mean from the US officials?
Mary Ellen
<< When you say "getting out" do you mean from the US officials?
Mary Ellen
----- Original Message ----- but getting out they gave us a hard time for
not having our
children's birth certificates or passports.
>>
No, bringing children out of Canada without proof they were who we said they
were.
It was the Canadian customs guys.
Our whole family was there, and my husband and I had drivers' licenses from
New Mexico. Maybe it was just routine, but the guys acted like we weren't
too bright not to have brought better kid i.d. Maybe it was because we had
copies of the birth certificates so if we KNEW we needed that ID, we
should've brought the real stuff.
Sandra
Sandra
Tia Leschke
>they
> No, bringing children out of Canada without proof they were who we said
> were.That's interesting. I've never gone through Canadian customs on the way out
> It was the Canadian customs guys.
>
of Canada. At Blaine, you drive right past Canadian Customs and past the
Peace Arch. You don't talk to anyone on the Canadian side at all. Taking
the ferry from Victoria to Port Angeles, you talk with US Immigration on the
Canadian side, then US customs on the American side. I guess maybe they
must do it differently at other border crossings.
Tia
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/28/03 6:11:04 PM Central Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
<< We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not having
our
children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birth
certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones. >>
Unless things have changed in the last few years, this type of thing
happening really depends on the person you get.
My sister was traumatized as a young child when they wouldn't let my Dad take
her on the ferry due to not having the birth certificate.
The person was just being a hard ass, nothing better to do, because my Uncle
and cousin just moments prior, had boarded with no fuss about the birth
certificate.
I think it's a good idea to have them when going over any borders in general.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson
Burnett
[email protected] writes:
<< We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not having
our
children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birth
certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones. >>
Unless things have changed in the last few years, this type of thing
happening really depends on the person you get.
My sister was traumatized as a young child when they wouldn't let my Dad take
her on the ferry due to not having the birth certificate.
The person was just being a hard ass, nothing better to do, because my Uncle
and cousin just moments prior, had boarded with no fuss about the birth
certificate.
I think it's a good idea to have them when going over any borders in general.
Ren
"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
me....It's in every one of us."
----Frances Hodgson
Burnett
Joylyn
My brother was adopted in New Mexico. He's a dark skinned
hispanic/Native american, and we are, well, not. I'm as blond as you
can get. So when he was four or so we went to Mexico. My parents
drilled him on his name and phone number and address, etc. They were so
worried someone would think we were trying to smuggle a kid across the
border. My mom said, when they asked him, that he came across as a
little robot.
Joylyn
starsuncloud@... wrote:
hispanic/Native american, and we are, well, not. I'm as blond as you
can get. So when he was four or so we went to Mexico. My parents
drilled him on his name and phone number and address, etc. They were so
worried someone would think we were trying to smuggle a kid across the
border. My mom said, when they asked him, that he came across as a
little robot.
Joylyn
starsuncloud@... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/28/03 6:11:04 PM Central Standard Time,[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> [email protected] writes:
>
> << We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not
> having
> our
> children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birth
> certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones. >>
>
> Unless things have changed in the last few years, this type of thing
> happening really depends on the person you get.
> My sister was traumatized as a young child when they wouldn't let my
> Dad take
> her on the ferry due to not having the birth certificate.
> The person was just being a hard ass, nothing better to do, because my
> Uncle
> and cousin just moments prior, had boarded with no fuss about the birth
> certificate.
> I think it's a good idea to have them when going over any borders in
> general.
>
> Ren
> "The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The
> flowers are
> growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
> magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
> me....It's in every one of us."
>
> ----Frances Hodgson
> Burnett
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Lucie Caunter
There is another reason why they ask for birth certificate now a days.
They are require to check that the children with you crossing either
way are yours. If they are not yours, they may demand a letter from the
parents giving you permission to travel out of country with these
children. We've had to do that with scouts going camping to New York state.
Why has it come to that? More children from divorce family that not,
they argue.
Lucie, in Ottawa
starsuncloud@... wrote:
They are require to check that the children with you crossing either
way are yours. If they are not yours, they may demand a letter from the
parents giving you permission to travel out of country with these
children. We've had to do that with scouts going camping to New York state.
Why has it come to that? More children from divorce family that not,
they argue.
Lucie, in Ottawa
starsuncloud@... wrote:
>In a message dated 1/28/03 6:11:04 PM Central Standard Time,
>[email protected] writes:
>
><< We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not having
>our
> children's birth certificates or passports. I had photocopies of birth
> certificates. They said I should have brought the real ones. >>
>
>Unless things have changed in the last few years, this type of thing
>happening really depends on the person you get.
>My sister was traumatized as a young child when they wouldn't let my Dad take
>her on the ferry due to not having the birth certificate.
>The person was just being a hard ass, nothing better to do, because my Uncle
>and cousin just moments prior, had boarded with no fuss about the birth
>certificate.
>I think it's a good idea to have them when going over any borders in general.
>
>Ren
>"The sun is shining--the sun is shining. That is the magic. The flowers are
>growing--the roots are stirring. That is the magic. Being alive is the
>magic--being strong is the magic The magic is in me--the magic is in
>me....It's in every one of us."
>
> ----Frances Hodgson
>Burnett
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Tia Leschke
> There is another reason why they ask for birth certificate now a days.state.
> They are require to check that the children with you crossing either
> way are yours. If they are not yours, they may demand a letter from the
> parents giving you permission to travel out of country with these
> children. We've had to do that with scouts going camping to New York
> Why has it come to that? More children from divorce family that not,When Lars was little and *very* shy, I was coming back with him from my
> they argue.
> Lucie, in Ottawa
mother's in Washington. The Canadian immigration guy had the hardest time
wrapping his mind around the fact that our last names are not the same. I
was starting to panic. We just wanted to get to the ferry and get home.
Rod was working in the bush, so they couldn't have called him, and it never
occurred to me to have them call the grandparents. Lars would have shyly
refused to answer any questions.
I had handed the guy my wallet to check my id, and he started going through
it. I guess when he saw Lars' medical card and library card and pictures
and stuff in my wallet, he figured the kid must be mine.
Tia
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/28/03 3:45:28 PM, leschke@... writes:
<< > It was the Canadian customs guys.
of Canada. At Blaine, you drive right past Canadian Customs and past the
Peace Arch. You don't talk to anyone on the Canadian side at all. >>
Must've been Americans then. Sorry. I just remember thinking, "SO, What!??
If the papers aren't good they keep my kids in CANADA!?"
<< > It was the Canadian customs guys.
>That's interesting. I've never gone through Canadian customs on the way out
of Canada. At Blaine, you drive right past Canadian Customs and past the
Peace Arch. You don't talk to anyone on the Canadian side at all. >>
Must've been Americans then. Sorry. I just remember thinking, "SO, What!??
If the papers aren't good they keep my kids in CANADA!?"
[email protected]
In a message dated 1/28/03 3:45:28 PM, leschke@... writes:
<< Taking
the ferry from Victoria to Port Angeles, you talk with US Immigration on the
Canadian side, then US customs on the American side. >>
Oh forgot to say--it was the Toronto airport.
I assumed everyone in the Toronto airport was Canadian. Could be very wrong
of me.
Sandra
<< Taking
the ferry from Victoria to Port Angeles, you talk with US Immigration on the
Canadian side, then US customs on the American side. >>
Oh forgot to say--it was the Toronto airport.
I assumed everyone in the Toronto airport was Canadian. Could be very wrong
of me.
Sandra
Kate Green
It's impossible to get on a plane going to the Middle East now without a
notarized letter from the child's father stating the mother is allowed to
take the children. We had some friends run into this when they went home to
the US on holiday and couldn't get on the return flight to get home to dad
until he faxed a notarized letter to the airline. It was a really stupid
situation.
Kate
At 07:47 PM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
notarized letter from the child's father stating the mother is allowed to
take the children. We had some friends run into this when they went home to
the US on holiday and couldn't get on the return flight to get home to dad
until he faxed a notarized letter to the airline. It was a really stupid
situation.
Kate
At 07:47 PM 1/28/03 -0500, you wrote:
> There is another reason why they ask for birth certificate now a days.having
> They are require to check that the children with you crossing either
> If they are not yours, they may demand a letter from the
> parents giving you permission to travel out of country with these
> We've had to do that with scouts going camping to New York state.
> More children from divorce family that not,
> they argue.
> Lucie, in Ottawa
>
> starsuncloud@... wrote:
>
>>In a message dated 1/28/03 6:11:04 PM Central Standard Time,
>>[email protected] writes:
>>
>><< We got in easily, but getting out they gave us a hard time for not
>>ourtake
>> I had photocopies of birth
>> >>
>>
>>Unless things have changed in the last few years, this type of thing
>>happening really depends on the person you get.
>>My sister was traumatized as a young child when they wouldn't let my Dad
>>her on the ferry due to not having the birth certificate.Uncle
>>The person was just being a hard ass, nothing better to do, because my
>>and cousin just moments prior, had boarded with no fuss about the birthgeneral.
>>certificate.
>>I think it's a good idea to have them when going over any borders in
>>
>>Ren
>>" The flowers are
>> Being alive is the
>> The magic is in me--the magic is in
>>"
>>
>> ----Frances Hodgson
>>Burnett
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Shyrley
Guess I was lucky when I went to Canada last year. The Canadian authorities let
me in without seeing any documentation, then they let me back out without even
looking. I was driving a mini-van with blacked out windows. I could have had 20
armed terrorirsts in there! The US authorities waved me through too.
The only time our passports were looked at was leaving the US! I wasn't asked
if the kids were mine - US passports and different last names. And no-one
wanted to see my green card.
I was surprised at the US on the way back in. You'd think they would check
everyone, especially in a blacked out windows van.
Shyrley
me in without seeing any documentation, then they let me back out without even
looking. I was driving a mini-van with blacked out windows. I could have had 20
armed terrorirsts in there! The US authorities waved me through too.
The only time our passports were looked at was leaving the US! I wasn't asked
if the kids were mine - US passports and different last names. And no-one
wanted to see my green card.
I was surprised at the US on the way back in. You'd think they would check
everyone, especially in a blacked out windows van.
Shyrley
Tia Leschke
> It's impossible to get on a plane going to the Middle East now without ato
> notarized letter from the child's father stating the mother is allowed to
> take the children. We had some friends run into this when they went home
> the US on holiday and couldn't get on the return flight to get home to dadBut I can understand why. Once a non-custodial parent takes a child to a
> until he faxed a notarized letter to the airline. It was a really stupid
> situation.
Middle East country, it can be really hard for the custodial parent to get
them back. I think it would apply to mother *or* father.
Tia
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In a message dated 1/29/03 7:52:13 AM, karegree@... writes:
<< It's impossible to get on a plane going to the Middle East now without a
notarized letter from the child's father stating the mother is allowed to
take the children. We had some friends run into this when they went home to
the US on holiday and couldn't get on the return flight to get home to dad
until he faxed a notarized letter to the airline. It was a really stupid
situation.
Iran does he need a notarized letter from their American mother saying it's
okay with her?
(Not to be too specific, but.... too many of those stories went bad. My
sister had an Iranian boyfriend in college. I'm SO glad she didn't get
pregnant. A college friend of mine from Taos, a sheltered Catholic Martinez
kid with educated parents but not much worldliness married an Iranian and
went and lived there for a while, then he lived in Taos for a while and then
they divorced, childless. So the thoughts have been near to me since the
1970's.)
Sandra
<< It's impossible to get on a plane going to the Middle East now without a
notarized letter from the child's father stating the mother is allowed to
take the children. We had some friends run into this when they went home to
the US on holiday and couldn't get on the return flight to get home to dad
until he faxed a notarized letter to the airline. It was a really stupid
situation.
>>Does it work the other way too? If a man is taking his own children into
Iran does he need a notarized letter from their American mother saying it's
okay with her?
(Not to be too specific, but.... too many of those stories went bad. My
sister had an Iranian boyfriend in college. I'm SO glad she didn't get
pregnant. A college friend of mine from Taos, a sheltered Catholic Martinez
kid with educated parents but not much worldliness married an Iranian and
went and lived there for a while, then he lived in Taos for a while and then
they divorced, childless. So the thoughts have been near to me since the
1970's.)
Sandra
Kate Green
A
such as a friend of mine who has no contact with her husband (he lives
somewhere in NZ on a sheep ranch:)
It can be a good thing this rule but as with any business rule things get
silly. My friends were on their way home to the Middle East on a return
ticket -- their kids are both blonde, blue eyed and dad was here working.
But I can understand the need for the rule.
Some of the western women I know who are married to Arabs laugh at the
fears that people have for the safety of their children. The book and movie
"Not without my children" did a lot to make the world fearful of mixed
marriages in this part of the world. The ones I know have great
relationships so they feel really comfortable. Still it can be an issue.
Since we've been here I've seen 2 cases just in the UAE of women caught
trying to smuggle their children out of the country. Very tricky situation
as the man owns and has all rights to the children in a Muslim marriage.
Kate
>>>Yep it's any single parent and it can be really tricky for divorced parents
>
> If a man is taking his own children into
> Iran does he need a notarized letter from their American mother saying it's
> okay with her?
such as a friend of mine who has no contact with her husband (he lives
somewhere in NZ on a sheep ranch:)
It can be a good thing this rule but as with any business rule things get
silly. My friends were on their way home to the Middle East on a return
ticket -- their kids are both blonde, blue eyed and dad was here working.
But I can understand the need for the rule.
Some of the western women I know who are married to Arabs laugh at the
fears that people have for the safety of their children. The book and movie
"Not without my children" did a lot to make the world fearful of mixed
marriages in this part of the world. The ones I know have great
relationships so they feel really comfortable. Still it can be an issue.
Since we've been here I've seen 2 cases just in the UAE of women caught
trying to smuggle their children out of the country. Very tricky situation
as the man owns and has all rights to the children in a Muslim marriage.
Kate
>then
> My
> I'm SO glad she didn't get
> A college friend of mine from Taos, a sheltered Catholic Martinez
> kid with educated parents but not much worldliness married an Iranian and
> went and lived there for a while, then he lived in Taos for a while and
> So the thoughts have been near to me since the
> 1970's.)
>
> Sandra
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