Pam Sorooshian

>>But... there were no spare moments for more details!! (I could've done with
less car and more interpersonals, but that's just me <g>.)
<<

It doesn't seem fair, somehow, to criticise it for leaving anything out -
considering that it was a long movie. But - I agree that we could have done
with a bit less of the car and a bit less of the quidditch and just spread
those minutes out - a few seconds here and a few seconds there - to
increase the interpersonal stuff. All it would take was a camera shot or
two and a few words between various characters.

There were a few disconcerting moments, I thought:

Ron picking up a rock and knocking Lockhart out -- seemed out of character
and weird - Lockhart was so clearly already out of it and Ron isn't the
type to just hit him on the head with a rock just because he can.

The scene where Hermione hugged Harry and then stopped herself from hugging
Ron and just shook his hand. There was NO chemistry of a romantic sort
between Hermione and Ron up to that point and it just seemed weird there
for her to do that.

Ginny Weasely needed to be fleshed out a bit more - it would only have
taken a couple of seconds of time to make it more clear that she had a huge
crush on Harry. Percy was a nonentity in the film, too, and yet, again, it
would only have taken a few minutes of time to build up his character a
little more.

--pam

Pam Sorooshian
National Home Education Network
www.NHEN.org
Changing the Way the World Sees Homeschooling

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On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:37:28 -0800 Pam Sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@...> writes:
> But - I agree that we could have done
> with a bit less of the car and a bit less of the quidditch and just
spread
> those minutes out - a few seconds here and a few seconds there - to
> increase the interpersonal stuff. All it would take was a camera shot
or
> two and a few words between various characters.
>

I agree. I sent the following to another list earlier... Peggy will not
be at all surprised that we were unimpressed by the movie, of course.
<g>We did warn the friends we went to this one with that we would
probably be highly critical of it...;-)

Dar

Richard Harris was okay, but he didn't "twinkle" at all, he was so
serious. A big part of Dumbledore's appeal is his twinkle, his fun,
quirky side.

We saw the movie the day it opened and were of course unhappy with it. It
had the same "rushing from scene to scene and cramming everything in"
feeling as the first one - no character development at all. A lot of the
good lines were left out, and a lot of things were changed for apparently
no reason at all. Like why couldn't the basilisk have been bright green?
The book made it quite clear that it was. And why was Aragog so small in
the memory scene - he was maybe the size of a cat, certainly not
something scary or monstrous. Certain scenes, though, seemed way too
long, like the Quidditch match and the running from the spiders and the
fight with the basilisk (and it didn't work the way they filmed it, with
Harry grabbing the fang and running back to the book).

I also found Dobby and Myrtle both pretty annoying, and Lucius was a babe
but not at all like I pictured him. And no one wore robes much at all,
muggle-clothes abound everywhere. And the broomsticks looked lame, and
Fred and George get to say about 3 words each, and all the parts that
foreshadow Ginny being the one opening the chamber (her forgetting her
diary as they leave for the train, her being very upset about Mrs.
Norris, her wanting to tell Harry and Ron something, and so on) were cut.
Also, Mrs. Weasley has way too much makeup on and why wasn't she wearing
robes at home?

I do like the actors who play Ron and Hermione, FWIW.

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In a message dated 11/19/02 8:43:34 PM, freeform@... writes:

<< I also found Dobby and Myrtle both pretty annoying, >>

They were SUPPOSED to be annoying!

<g>

Sandra

Nancy Wooton

on 11/20/02 6:18 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> << I also found Dobby and Myrtle both pretty annoying, >>
>
> They were SUPPOSED to be annoying!

And they did a fine job, too. Myrtle was *bloody brilliant,* IMO! Her mood
shifts were great, squeaky sobbing one second and in their faces furious the
next. I liked the set designer's sink, too; different than I imagined, but
I've never lived in a castle, so I pictured a typical multi-user bathroom.

Here's a question for you true fans: Which house did Myrtle belong to?

Nancy

Pam Sorooshian

We can't tell what House Myrtle belonged to because she's black and white -
transparent - as a ghost - so no house colors. Her crest on her robe is a
full school crest, the Hogwarts coat of arms, not a house crest. Tom Riddle
had the same school crest, not a house crest, on.

--pamAt 07:55 AM 11/20/2002, you wrote:
>on 11/20/02 6:18 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
> > << I also found Dobby and Myrtle both pretty annoying, >>
> >
> > They were SUPPOSED to be annoying!
>
>And they did a fine job, too. Myrtle was *bloody brilliant,* IMO! Her mood
>shifts were great, squeaky sobbing one second and in their faces furious the
>next. I liked the set designer's sink, too; different than I imagined, but
>I've never lived in a castle, so I pictured a typical multi-user bathroom.
>
>Here's a question for you true fans: Which house did Myrtle belong to?
>
>Nancy
>
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Kate Green

>
> Which house did Myrtle belong to?


My youngest says Ravenclaw??

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In a message dated 11/20/2002 8:19:45 AM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> <<I also found Dobby and Myrtle both pretty annoying, >>
>
> They were SUPPOSED to be annoying!
>

I thought Myrtle was EXCELLENT.

Tuck


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Nancy Wooton

on 11/20/02 9:06 AM, Pam Sorooshian at pamsoroosh@... wrote:

My kids were quite sure the book doesn't say, either. We decided she
couldn't have been a Slytherin, since no one would bully them (!), not
likely a Gryffindor or Ravenclaw, so we put her in Hufflepuff. Are we
betraying a school-clique mentality here, even though my kids have never
gone to school??? This is vaguely disturbing.
Nancy

> We can't tell what House Myrtle belonged to because she's black and white -
> transparent - as a ghost - so no house colors. Her crest on her robe is a
> full school crest, the Hogwarts coat of arms, not a house crest. Tom Riddle
> had the same school crest, not a house crest, on.
>
> --pamAt 07:55 AM 11/20/2002, you wrote:
>> on 11/20/02 6:18 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
>>
>>> << I also found Dobby and Myrtle both pretty annoying, >>
>>>
>>> They were SUPPOSED to be annoying!
>>
>> And they did a fine job, too. Myrtle was *bloody brilliant,* IMO! Her mood
>> shifts were great, squeaky sobbing one second and in their faces furious the
>> next. I liked the set designer's sink, too; different than I imagined, but
>> I've never lived in a castle, so I pictured a typical multi-user bathroom.
>>
>> Here's a question for you true fans: Which house did Myrtle belong to?
>>
>> Nancy
>>
>>
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In a message dated 11/20/02 11:09:05 AM Central Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:

> We can't tell what House Myrtle belonged to because she's black and white -
> transparent - as a ghost - so no house colors. Her crest on her robe is a
> full school crest, the Hogwarts coat of arms, not a house crest. Tom Riddle
>
> had the same school crest, not a house crest, on.

Moly says Myrtle was in Hufflepuff, and Tom was in Slytheryn.

~Nancy


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On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 12:25:44 EST Dnowens@... writes:
> In a message dated 11/20/02 11:09:05 AM Central Standard Time,
> pamsoroosh@... writes:
>
> > We can't tell what House Myrtle belonged to because she's black and
white -
> > transparent - as a ghost - so no house colors. Her crest on her robe
is a
> > full school crest, the Hogwarts coat of arms, not a house crest. Tom
Riddle
> > had the same school crest, not a house crest, on.
>
> Moly says Myrtle was in Hufflepuff, and Tom was in Slytheryn.
>

That's what I say, too, although the books don't actually say about
Myrtle. Tom is the "heir of Slytherin", and the books say at one point
that all the wizards who became death eaters were Slytherin, but that's
the closest they get to giving Tom's house.

Myrtle baby-talked. She didn't whine. And she really wasn't fat, she was
way too cute, IMO...

Dar

Peggy

From: freeform@...


> I agree. I sent the following to another list earlier... Peggy will not
> be at all surprised that we were unimpressed by the movie, of course.
> <g> We did warn the friends we went to this one with that we would
> probably be highly critical of it...;-)
>
> Dar

Moi? <g>

We haven't gone yet. Em told me she doesn't want to because she could hardly
remember the pictures in her head from before she went to the first one. She
is also refusing to look at the illustrations in the Little House Books I am
reading aloud to her. She wants her pictures, not someone else's. ;)

I'll probably go with Sam next weekend. She just finished reading her first
Terry Pratchett discworld book and it totally captivated.

Peggy

Kate Green

> I'll probably go with Sam next weekend. She just finished reading her first
> Terry Pratchett discworld book and it totally captivated.
>
> Peggy
>
We are all hooked on this writer (my Sam, 15-year-old son) got us all into
them a few years ago. We have a couple of movies of it -- cartoons. They
aren't the best but once you become discworld groupies you don't care:)

I would also recommend Pratchett's Good Omens. It's not discworld but
really funny.

Kate

Peggy

From: Kate Green <karegree@...>


> > I'll probably go with Sam next weekend. She just finished reading her first
> > Terry Pratchett discworld book and it totally captivated.
> >
> > Peggy
> >
> We are all hooked on this writer (my Sam, 15-year-old son) got us all into
> them a few years ago. We have a couple of movies of it -- cartoons. They
> aren't the best but once you become discworld groupies you don't care:)
>
> I would also recommend Pratchett's Good Omens. It's not discworld but
> really funny.
>
> Kate

Sounds cool! Someone lent us videos of The Wyrd Sisters but we haven't watched
them yet. We listened to _Only You Can Save Mankind_ on audio tape and really
liked it. Looking forward to reading more. Thanks for the recommendations.

Peggy