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Okay. I watched it. I laughed, I cried, I leaned right over too close to
the TV and forgot to breathe.

I was glad it was on DVD, so I could turn on the subtitles and not have to
keep going back to see what they were saying. I'm glad the Spanish was easy,
since they didn't subtitle that, and I could understand most of that (better
than I could understand the Polish guy with the English accent), or the boss
with the Scottish accent...

But is IS a VERY cool movie, totally cool concept, and the #2 main male
character (I guess, the art therapist) was in Hamlet (played Rosencrantz or
Guildenstern) and Henry V (played the dauphin), so it was fun to see him in a
non-Shakespearean situation.

Sandra

Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

I just got back from seeing Harry Potter.
It's SO much better than the first - only there's less Snape than I
remember from before. Sorry ladies. Personally, I'm a little fond of
Hagrid. Big Bearish Mountain-type Guy with a gravelly voice and a big
dog....
A great time was certainly had!
(and it's a good deal 'scarier' as well with startling things popping up
here and there... Be Aware!)
Heidi

Fetteroll

on 11/16/02 10:37 PM, Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema at heidi@... wrote:

> I just got back from seeing Harry Potter.
> It's SO much better than the first

Apparently the next one has a new director. Which I'm glad of. Though I love
the actors and the settings, there's just something missing. The next is
being directed by the guy who directed A Little Princess
(http://us.imdb.com/Title?0113670) which I thought was *wonderful*. He's so
good at capturing what's going on inside the characters which I think is
what's lacking in Harry Potter.

If anyone hasn't heard, The Chamber of Secrets is 2 hours and 41 minutes but
reviews have said it's so well paced you don't notice :-)

Joyce

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In a message dated 11/17/02 5:09:59 AM, fetteroll@... writes:

<< If anyone hasn't heard, The Chamber of Secrets is 2 hours and 41 minutes
but
reviews have said it's so well paced you don't notice :-) >>

We only noticed it when we got out and it was PITCH DARK, and cold. We
hadn't taken coats, and the showing we'd aimed for was sold out, so we
thought 35 minutes longer wouldn't be a problem...

AND we hadn't told Marty where we were going. He was out with friends.
Holly called and left a message on the phone, but Marty never checked that.
So he came home to an empty house, even the wheelchair-gimp gone, and no
note. But he did the right thing. He left for a D&D game without leaving
US a note! <g> Good for us knowing he was with a kid with a cellphone.

I was sitting in a nice theatre chair, with my wheelchair at my feet for a
footstool, leaning my whole back AND neck and head against something soft!!
That made me realize that hadn't happened in over a month and it felt GOOD.
Small comforts... We were in the front row, but it wasn't too close to the
screen--pretty far back. Even Kirby jumped a few times. It was scarier than
the last one.

So who's going to play Dumbledore next time??
I bet they already have an idea. We were thinking maybe Ian McKellan. Maybe
Patrick Stewart? But I don't think he's tall. What abot the guy who played
Hamlet's father with Mel Gibson? (to google... searching... searching...)
Paul Scofield. He's tall and English and old. If he's also not dead, that
might make him a candidate. Alec Guinness is dead, right? So he's no good.

Found some good sites while I was out looking:

http://members.aol.com/lckimball/scofield.htm
http://members.tripod.com/~BASKERTON/indexpage.html



Sandra

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In a message dated 11/17/2002 12:14:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
> I bet they already have an idea. We were thinking maybe Ian McKellan.
> Maybe
> Patrick Stewart? But I don't think he's tall. What abot the guy who
> played
> Hamlet's father with Mel Gibson? (to google... searching... searching...)
>
> Paul Scofield. He's tall and English and old. If he's also not dead, that
>
> might make him a candidate. Alec Guinness is dead, right? So he's no
> good.

We figure they'll ALL be in it eventually (probably NOT Alec Guinness <g>)
although not ALL as Dumbledore <g>. We were watching some Brit movie last
night and got to talking about the actors: we have five more movies and tons
more characters. Eventually they'll ALL have some part---they might even run
out of Brits! <G> Then in Goblet of Fire we need French and German (or
Poles?). Maybe even a few Americans in later books?

I was bummed at first that John Hurt wasn't Snape (he's too short anyway, but
I'd pictured him as I read it---he can be quite evil. ), but happy to see him
as Ollivander in the first movie. Then out came Book IV, and he's there
again. Oh, and Shyrley---Snape barely makes an appearance in this one! Sorry.

~Kelly


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In a message dated 11/17/02 11:18:31 AM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:

<< Eventually they'll ALL have some part---they might even run
out of Brits! <G> Then in Goblet of Fire we need French and German (or
Poles?). Maybe even a few Americans in later books? >>

They keep saying "All British cast," so if they need an American they'll
probably get Hugh Grant to do his American accent. <g> Kenneth Brannagh
did a great American accent in Dead Again (I found ONE single mistake, and a
tiny one), but they've already used him.

Oh. Another tall Brit who came to mind was John Cleese, but then I
remembered he's already Nearly Headless Nick. Also, I think he can't help
but be funny.

SHYRLEY!! Come back here, please and name every tall Brit actor who's 5'11"
or more who could be Dumbledore. Thanks.

How tall is Sean Connery?
Oh never mine.

Sandra

Nancy Wooton

on 11/17/02 10:53 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:

> SHYRLEY!! Come back here, please and name every tall Brit actor who's 5'11"
> or more who could be Dumbledore. Thanks.

How tall is Robbie Coltrane? He isn't *really* as tall as Hagrid, is he?
I'd think they could work around a somewhat shorter actor than Richard
Harris.

Nancy (who spent the last 20 minutes googling movie sites to find out just
where I'd seen Mark Williams (Arthur Weasley) before!)

Nancy Wooton

on 11/17/02 10:57 AM, Nancy Wooton at ikonstitcher@... wrote:

> on 11/17/02 10:53 AM, SandraDodd@... at SandraDodd@... wrote:
>
>> SHYRLEY!! Come back here, please and name every tall Brit actor who's 5'11"
>> or more who could be Dumbledore. Thanks.
>
> How tall is Robbie Coltrane? He isn't *really* as tall as Hagrid, is he?
> I'd think they could work around a somewhat shorter actor than Richard
> Harris.

Ha! A little more googling to learn he's 6'1".

What do they do, put 'im on stilts??

Nancy

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In a message dated 11/17/02 12:11:09 PM, ikonstitcher@... writes:

<< > I'd think they could work around a somewhat shorter actor than Richard
> Harris. >>

He needs to be taller than the other teachers, I think.

Film him from a lower angle? And close? have him hold small props?

He played the ghost in Black Adder's Christmas Carol, and he also breaks down
a door and apologizes, like in Harry Potter. So that was a good little touch
for those who already were Black Adder fans, for the door to come down just
that way.

And the new teacher (botanist) was a Black Adder regular too. <g>

Sandra

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Who is the long white haired not Dumbledore guy?
He's way hotter than Snape.
Elissa, the heretic


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I'll have to see it.
I always pictured his Dad as slick as Malfoy. Not long hair at all.
Elissa


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In a message dated 11/17/02 3:00:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> http://www.gloomygus.org/
>
>

Not as cute in real life. Too friendly looking.
I like them dark and broody.
I always went out with the bad boys.
Elissa, who marries the good boys


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Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

Oooooh! His Lucius IS as slick as Draco Malfoy, he's just more mature
about it.
I *love* the way he quirks his lips and narrows his eyes when his character
is angry.
Terrific acting!
(and he's WAY hotter in this movie than most of his stock photos make him
out to be. Maybe it's the smouldering eyes and the severe blond hair...(melt))
Good for a romp, but not for long term.

Hagrid still trumps them all in my book!
Heidi


At 03:01 PM 11/17/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>I'll have to see it.
>I always pictured his Dad as slick as Malfoy. Not long hair at all.
>Elissa

Heidi Wordhouse-Dykema

><<Hagrid still trumps them all in my book! >>
>
>Heidi...
>My husband is kinda like a blond Hagrid.
>Hair still to his waist, but it's getting grey now...
>You can have a romp with him when I die. <g>
>He's younger than I am. He should last a while.
>
>Sandra

Oooh, and I've got it in writing, right girls?!!! I love 'em big and strong!
So tell me, does he make magic? <big mischievous grin>

We'd have to wait until my own heartthrob (who doesn't resemble Hagrid in
any way, but has a seriously delightful butt) kicks his own bucket.
Until that point, you're a lucky woman!!!

(well, okay, my honey's tall, pretty strong and has some seriously big
hands, so maybe he is a *bit* like Hagrid!) (big sappy grin...)
Hmmm.... I wonder where he's gotten to...
Heidi

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In a message dated 11/17/02 1:53:24 PM Central Standard Time,
Earthmomma67@... writes:

> Who is the long white haired not Dumbledore guy?
> He's way hotter than Snape.
> Elissa, the heretic

If you are talking about Lucius Malfoy, he is Jason Isaacs. And you are
right, he is hot!!! His next appearance will be as both Mr. Darling and
Captain Hook in the newest Disney/Sony production of Peter Pan. He played
opposite Mel Gibson in The Patriot, he was a drag queen in Sweet November. He
was a priest in Neil Jordan's End of the Affair. and played Lord Felton in
Dragonheart. He was also in Blackhawk Down and Tuxedo with Jackie Chan. (Just
to name a few.)

~Nancy loving all these Brits!


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In a message dated 11/17/02 2:39:50 PM, Dnowens@... writes:

<< He played
opposite Mel Gibson in The Patriot >>

AH! That's where I had seen him then.

<<he was a drag queen in Sweet November>>

Another one to put on my list, then.

Sandra

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In a message dated 11/17/02 4:39:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dnowens@...
writes:

> If you are talking about Lucius Malfoy, he is Jason Isaacs

Well, Lucius is luscious!
Elissa


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In a message dated 11/17/02 5:18:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
shyrley.williams@... writes:

> - it's important that us Rickmaniacs know these
> things and just because we may have drooled a bit doesn't mean
> anything at all. Really.)
>
> Shyrley
>
>
>

Questioning your faith a bit, are you?
Says Elissa in her best snooty brit voice


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Shyrley

On 17 Nov 02, at 14:52, Earthmomma67@... wrote:

> Who is the long white haired not Dumbledore guy?
> He's way hotter than Snape.
> Elissa, the heretic
>
Eeep.
You are hereby excomminicated from the Church of Rickman!!

(He's Jason Isaacs - it's important that us Rickmaniacs know these
things and just because we may have drooled a bit doesn't mean
anything at all. Really.)

Shyrley


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In a message dated 11/17/02 3:25:15 PM, shyrley.williams@... writes:

<< > How tall is Sean Connery?

Just right ;-) >>

You're thinking of him lying down, right?

Shyrley

On 17 Nov 02, at 13:53, SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 11/17/02 11:18:31 AM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:
>
> << Eventually they'll ALL have some part---they might even run
> out of Brits! <G> Then in Goblet of Fire we need French and German (or
> Poles?). Maybe even a few Americans in later books? >>

Can you imagine Harry Potter with a bunch of yanks drawling y'all!!!!
;-)

>
> They keep saying "All British cast," so if they need an American
> they'll probably get Hugh Grant to do his American accent. <g>

He does one?

> Kenneth Brannagh did a great American accent in Dead Again (I found
> ONE single mistake, and a tiny one), but they've already used him.
>
> Oh. Another tall Brit who came to mind was John Cleese, but then I
> remembered he's already Nearly Headless Nick. Also, I think he
> can't help but be funny.
>
> SHYRLEY!! Come back here, please and name every tall Brit actor who's
> 5'11" or more who could be Dumbledore. Thanks.

Ummm, I was wondering this myself the other day. How about Ian
Mckellan. He's already used to the beard having been Gandalf.
Christoper Lee would be too stern I think.
Richard Attenborough is a possibilty and Richard Briars who I
desppised in the Good Life but has the right sort of demeanor and
voice.
Dunno how tall they all are though.

>
> How tall is Sean Connery?

Just right ;-)

> Sandra
>

Shyrley

"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

Shyrley

On 17 Nov 02, at 13:17, kbcdlovejo@... wrote:


> I was bummed at first that John Hurt wasn't Snape (he's too short
> anyway, but I'd pictured him as I read it---he can be quite evil. ),
> but happy to see him as Ollivander in the first movie. Then out came
> Book IV, and he's there again. Oh, and Shyrley---Snape barely makes an
> appearance in this one! Sorry.
>
> ~Kelly
>
We're off to see it tomorrow morning. Yeah, I'd heard about Snape
being underused. Life just ain't fair. Hopefully he'll get a bigger part
fro the third movies, after all, he's quite important in that one. If they
don't change it.

Shyrley


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In a message dated 11/17/02 3:40:01 PM, heidi@... writes:

<< Maybe it's the smouldering eyes and the severe blond hair...(melt))
Good for a romp, but not for long term.

<<Hagrid still trumps them all in my book! >>

Heidi...
My husband is kinda like a blond Hagrid.

Hair still to his waist, but it's getting grey now...

You can have a romp with him when I die. <g>
He's younger than I am. He should last a while.

Sandra

Shyrley

On 17 Nov 02, at 17:28, SandraDodd@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 11/17/02 3:25:15 PM, shyrley.williams@...
> writes:
>
> << > How tall is Sean Connery?
>
> Just right ;-) >>
>
> You're thinking of him lying down, right?

I never said that :-)
heehee

Shyrley


"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

Shyrley

On 17 Nov 02, at 17:20, Earthmomma67@... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/17/02 5:18:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> shyrley.williams@... writes:
>
> > - it's important that us Rickmaniacs know these
> > things and just because we may have drooled a bit doesn't mean
> > anything at all. Really.)
> >
> > Shyrley
> >
> >
> >
>
> Questioning your faith a bit, are you?
> Says Elissa in her best snooty brit voice
>

It's vitally important to find out what the heretics are up too. And if
that means a bit of drooling and letching then so be it.
I can take it.
;-)

Shyrley with the wonderful accent :-)


"You laugh at me because I'm different. I laugh at you because you are all the same."

Betsy

> << > How tall is Sean Connery?
>
> Just right ;-) >>
>
> You're thinking of him lying down, right?



I've often thought we should pool all our brain power on this list and
write a book. Since we don't seem to be thinking w. our *brains* right
now, how about we right a book telling guys who are unlucky in love that
if they learn to imitate the speaking voice of Sean Connery they are
going to get laid a lot more often!

Betsy

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In a message dated 11/17/2002 12:55:20 PM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> SHYRLEY!! Come back here, please and name every tall Brit actor who's 5'11"
>
> or more who could be Dumbledore. Thanks.
>

Am I missing something? What happened to the guy who played Dumbledore?

Tuck


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-=-Am I missing something? What happened to the guy who played Dumbledore?-=-




'Harry Potter' actor Richard Harris dies
-

by Marcus Errico
Oct 25, 2002, 2:45 PM PT



Richard Harris, the Irishman known as much for his carousing as for his
masterful acting in such films as A Man Called Horse and This Sporting Life,
died Friday after a brief bout with Hodgkin's disease. He was 72.

"With great sadness, Damian, Jarid and Jamie Harris announced the death of
their beloved father, Richard Harris," the actor's family said in a
statement. "He died peacefully at University College Hospital."



Word of Harris' death comes less than two weeks after his agent stated Harris
was responding "extremely well" to chemotherapy at the London hospital.

In fact, the agent said on October 15 that Harris "should be released from
the clinic soon" and be fully recuperated in time to reprise his role as the
kindly Professor Albus Dumbledore in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of
Azkaban, slated to begin shooting in March.

Harris was reportedly hospitalized in August after complaining of a severe
chest infection. It was then doctors diagnosed the Hodgkin's, a cancer that
attacks the body's lymph nodes.

Harris' condition was serious enough to force the filmmakers of the upcoming
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, due out November 15, to use a double
to complete some of the actor's final scenes. According to British press
reports, they also began looking for potential replacements to be cast in
future Harry Potter installments.

Long before assuming Potter duties, Harris gained acting-legend status for
his intense performance in 1963's This Sporting Life. His turn as violent
coal miner Frank Machin earned him a Best Actor Award at the Cannes Film
Festival and his first of two Best Actor Academy Award nominations.





Other key credits include turns as a squadron leader alongside David Niven,
Gregory Peck and Anthony Quinn in 1961's The Guns of Navarone and as a
singing King Arthur in the film version of Camelot, which won him a Golden
Globe.

But Harris' most popular role (apart from Dumbledore) was John Morgan, an
English aristocrat captured by Sioux in the franchise-launching surprise 1970
hit A Man Called Horse. The film spawned two sequels and later prompted
Harris to accuse Kevin Costner of swiping scenes from the series for Dances
with Wolves.

Harris' celluloid résumé also includes the 1962 Marlon Brando version of
Mutiny on the Bounty and Robin and Marian, in which he costarred with Sean
Connery and Audrey Hepburn.

Then there were the mid-'70s flops (Orca or Game for Vultures, anyone?) that
prompted Harris to abandon moviemaking. "I made a decision that half was made
for me by the motion-picture business," he once recalled. "Around 1980, I
decided that was it, my career was really finished. I was doing a series of
movies I wasn't happy doing. The standard of the movies was very low. Because
of what I was offered, I was unhappy."

He quit Hollywood, toured in a revival of Camelot and stopped working
altogether by the late '80s. Then Harris made a remarkable comeback, snaring
a Best Actor Oscar nomination for 1990's The Field, followed by a supporting
role as gunslinger English Bob in Clint Eastwood's 1992 Oscar-winning western
Unforgiven.

More blockbusters followed, including Gladiator, in which he played Marcus
Aurelius, and Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, the first movie
adventure of J.K. Rowling's boy wizard.

Harris signed on to play Hogwarts headmaster Dumbledore after his young
granddaughter threatened never to speak to him again if he refused, but he
wasn't always so cuddly.

An inveterate hellraiser in the '60s and '70s, the actor was once drinking
buddy to Peter O'Toole and the late Richard Burton. Harris nearly died from a
cocaine overdose in 1978. (According to one newspaper report, he had been in
intensive care five times over the years and had been given last rites
twice.) After his O.D., and under doctors' orders, he gave up his hard-living
ways in 1982--after downing two bottles of wine first--and had remained clean
and sober since.

Twice wed, he is survived by his three sons from his first marriage, to
Elizabeth Rees-Williams.