Elizabeth Roberts

First of all, again, I didn't mean to start a long debate over religion/witchcraft/satanism or anything like that. It was brought up to illustrate how we have not seen the sort of increase in violence and other behaviors we'd find objectionable since letting go of restraints on television. I was asked specifically why we had limited them and I answered our reasons for having done so.

Yes, in some degree having been a member of this group for awhile now, I know what are "hot topics" and what aren't.

I "spoke" without quite thinking in my eagerness to share how things have changed for us, and for that I apologize.

It has been suggested from more than one source that I take a break from the group for awhile. So I'll see ya in a couple weeks...

MamaBeth




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tjreynoso

> It has been suggested from more than one source that I take a
break from the group for awhile. So I'll see ya in a couple weeks...
>
> MamaBeth

Why are you taking a break? I think you've had alot of useful
information to offer. And have been able to keep your cool and be
respectful. I admire you for that.

Dawn Adams

Mamabaeth writes:
>I "spoke" without quite thinking in my eagerness to share how things have changed for us, >and for that I apologize.

Speaking without thinking is why I like your posts. :) They make ME think.

>It has been suggested from more than one source that I take a break from the group for >awhile. So I'll see ya in a couple weeks...

It has been suggested perhaps but not ordered.

Dawn (in NS)


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Wendy Carr

I personally do not think you should leave. You didnt do anything wrong.
Just stated an opinion. Everyone is allowed an opinion.
Wendy


>From: "Dawn Adams" <Wishbone@...>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: <[email protected]>
>Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] to the group
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 12:35:50 -0400
>


Wendy Carr
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thousand pieces and they all went skipping about, and that was the beginning
of fairies. - Barrie
Mom to Austyn(8) and Caitlin(5 months)

Proud To Home-school!

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[email protected]

I wish you wouldn't you are one of the post people I enjoy. You state your
point but don't come across as .... over bearing or bossy or saying things can
only be your way. I have people I never read there post because I don't like
the way they put thing, my choice... but I yours make me think and I like
that, I like you so stick around some of us find you a breath of fresh air.

Heidi


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pam sorooshian

On Jan 20, 2004, at 7:58 AM, tjreynoso wrote:

>> It has been suggested from more than one source that I take a
> break from the group for awhile. So I'll see ya in a couple weeks...
>>
>> MamaBeth
>
> Why are you taking a break? I think you've had alot of useful
> information to offer. And have been able to keep your cool and be
> respectful. I admire you for that.


Beth has done a great job asking questions and clearly working hard at
understanding the responses and really thinking about how to implement
them in her very hectic life with 4 little kids and a husband whose job
keeps him away from home for days at a time and social services on her
back on a regular basis.

But after such an intense time - so much new information, so many
changes in thinking, keeping up with this email list seems like it
ought to become a lower priority for a while so that she can take time
integrate all this new stuff. I suggested this to her and I did not
suggest it because I wanted her to leave the list, but because I was
thinking that it would be very very good for her to take all this new
input and spend some time really very very focused on her children and
herself/her husband. She has so much to deal with and I think it is
really important for us to sometimes step back from outside input and
get ourselves more firmly centered in our new mental place. I felt Beth
needed to do that and I suggested it to her privately. Interestingly,
someone else had the same feeling and posted it on the list.

I suggest it to ANYBODY who has had a lot of new ideas tossed at them
and is making major changes in their lives. There is a time for
gathering lots of input and having lots of discussion, but that usually
needs to be followed by a period of quiet contemplation and focus.

-pam
National Home Education Network
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Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.

Fetteroll

on 1/20/04 12:24 PM, hmsclmyboy@... at hmsclmyboy@... wrote:

> I wish you wouldn't you are one of the post people I enjoy.

We should all keep in mind that the reason most people are here is for their
kids :-)

It's really wonderful that any of us can help anyone else here as a side
effect, but the kids are what's most important.

I, too, think the points MamaBeth has brought up have sparked some great
discussion. But I also remember the reason she posted at all was because she
was trying to figure out how to do it all. And being on this list is adding
even more to her life. So it would be selfish to ask her to add more to her
life to benefit others. (In fact that was one of the threads! How she can
say no to people outside the family.)

And at some point it's best to put the instruction manual down and just go
try things out. It more often than not helps people get to that "Now I get
it!" moment. :-)

I do hope she'll come back when time isn't so crunched for her.

Joyce

[email protected]

In a message dated 1/21/2004 5:11:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fetteroll@... writes:
>>I, too, think the points MamaBeth has brought up have sparked some great
discussion. But I also remember the reason she posted at all was because she
was trying to figure out how to do it all. And being on this list is adding
even more to her life. So it would be selfish to ask her to add more to her
life to benefit others. (In fact that was one of the threads! How she can
say no to people outside the family.)<<
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Not to mention that she is having problems with DCS about her kids not being
in school, the house not being take care of, the kids running out of the house
unsupervised. All this, of course, is the opinion of DCS, but they have the
power to make her and her children's lives miserable.

Mamabeth did a LOT of posting. More than the majority of people who've been
here years and years, and more than those monitoring it. That is a HUGE chunk
of time that she could be using straightening out her life right now. Let
her get things in control, satisfy her requirements DCS is requesting, THEN come
back. Maybe then she could learn (as some of us have) that she doesn't have
to follow every thread. This email list can still be an asset to her (and her
posts to us) yet take a much smaller chunk of her life than it does for her
right now.

Nancy B. in WV


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/21/04 12:02:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
pamsoroosh@... writes:

> I suggest it to ANYBODY who has had a lot of new ideas tossed at them
> and is making major changes in their lives. There is a time for
> gathering lots of input and having lots of discussion, but that usually
> needs to be followed by a period of quiet contemplation and focus.
>
>

This needs to be put on a card to give out to new unschoolers. You know when
they start to worry at those times when their child seems to be "doing
nothing."
Pam G


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