Sherri-Lee Pressman

Pam said:

"The point of talking about unschooling is to talk about how people learn without schooling."


Pam, this is great! So as a list (not just to you Pam) can we do this? This argument about bedtimes and foods is tiring to be honest. I have seen it on so many lists. I know some people feel very strongly that it is not respectful to limit a child's choices while others don't see it that way. Do we have to continue battling this?

As someone said, you can still be an unschooler and limit things in your child's life, so I would love to get back to the unschooling basics.

How *do* kids learn without schooling? What styles of learning are there? How do you know what your kids know without testing?

Thanks,

Sherri-Lee


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In a message dated 6/24/2004 2:14:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

This argument about bedtimes and foods is tiring to be honest. I have seen
it on so many lists. I know some people feel very strongly that it is not
respectful to limit a child's choices while others don't see it that way. Do we
have to continue battling this?



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Sure. But I need to answer the tooth-brushing question first, OK? <BWG>

~Kelly


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Jon and Rue Kream

>>>>Pam said:"The point of talking about unschooling is to talk about how
people learn without schooling."

Sherri-Lee replied >>Pam, this is great! So as a list (not just to you Pam)
can we do this? This argument about bedtimes and foods is tiring to be
honest.

**But when I talk about bedtimes and food choices I *am* talking about how
my children learn without 'schooling' :0).

>>How *do* kids learn without schooling?

**My kids learn as just a seamless part of living their lives. They learn
by playing and making choices and following interests and talking and
watching TV and staring up at the sky and swinging on the hammock and
picking fruit and petting puppies and helping people and ...well, you get
the idea :0). They're really observant and interested in the things and
people around them. They ask a lot of questions, and like to try new
things. Overall I'd say they're just really open to the world.

>>What styles of learning are there?

**Probably as many as there are different people, imo.

>>How do you know what your kids know without testing?

**I don't feel any need to know what Dagny and Rowan know. Sometimes I do,
but I don't seek to find out. Outside of school, where teachers use
assessments to find out what children are 'lacking' in, there's no reason
to. ~Rue






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In a message dated 6/24/2004 1:14:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

How *do* kids learn without schooling?


The same way a baby learns to walk and talk without a book.
syndi

"...since we can't know what knowledge will be most needed in the future, it
is senseless to try to teach it in advance. Instead, we should try to turn
out people who love learning so much and learn so well that they will be able
to learn whatever needs to be learned."
-- _John Holt_ (http://www.quoteworld.org/author.php?thetext=John+Holt)


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Wendy E

the value I see in talking about bedtimes and such is to get an
ideas and advice (and life experience) about how other unschoolers
have dealt with things. From there I can pick and choose what works
for me...and leave the rest behind. It's just useful for me to get
input from others who might be of a similar mindset.

--- In [email protected], Sherri-Lee Pressman
<sherri--lee@s...> wrote:
> Pam said:
>
> "The point of talking about unschooling is to talk about how
people learn without schooling."
>
>
> Pam, this is great! So as a list (not just to you Pam) can we do
this? This argument about bedtimes and foods is tiring to be honest.
I have seen it on so many lists. I know some people feel very
strongly that it is not respectful to limit a child's choices while
others don't see it that way. Do we have to continue battling this?
>
> As someone said, you can still be an unschooler and limit things
in your child's life, so I would love to get back to the unschooling
basics.
>
> How *do* kids learn without schooling? What styles of learning are
there? How do you know what your kids know without testing?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sherri-Lee
>
>
> Looking for safe and natural health products?
> http://www.aloeessence.com
>
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Sherri-Lee Pressman

I guess I have more de-schooling to do then... I seem to still think that what we learn has to be measurable in the traditional sense...and I have a lack of faith that

"They learn by playing and making choices and following interests and talking and watching TV and staring up at the sky and swinging on the hammock and picking fruit and petting puppies and helping people and..."

will teach them what they need to do a variety of jobs available out there... then I remember that we are self employed people and hopefully she will be self employed and it won't all matter... so I guess it is the eternal internal battle I have going on about almost anything:)

Thanks for the reply... good reminder,

Sherri-Lee
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jon and Rue Kream
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: [unschoolingbasics] unschooling or not


>>>>Pam said:"The point of talking about unschooling is to talk about how
people learn without schooling."

Sherri-Lee replied >>Pam, this is great! So as a list (not just to you Pam)
can we do this? This argument about bedtimes and foods is tiring to be
honest.

**But when I talk about bedtimes and food choices I *am* talking about how
my children learn without 'schooling' :0).

>>How *do* kids learn without schooling?

**My kids learn as just a seamless part of living their lives. They learn
by playing and making choices and following interests and talking and
watching TV and staring up at the sky and swinging on the hammock and
picking fruit and petting puppies and helping people and ...well, you get
the idea :0). They're really observant and interested in the things and
people around them. They ask a lot of questions, and like to try new
things. Overall I'd say they're just really open to the world.

>>What styles of learning are there?

**Probably as many as there are different people, imo.

>>How do you know what your kids know without testing?

**I don't feel any need to know what Dagny and Rowan know. Sometimes I do,
but I don't seek to find out. Outside of school, where teachers use
assessments to find out what children are 'lacking' in, there's no reason
to. ~Rue


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http://www.aloeessence.com

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In a message dated 6/24/2004 2:14:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

How *do* kids learn without schooling? <<<<<<

By living and observing and doing and listening. By being interested and
facinated and curious. By being surrounded by other like souls (parents,
siblings, friends). By being allowed to move at his own pace.



What styles of learning are there?<<<<<


As many as there are people. But Howard Gardener suggests different
"intelligences" that we could have.


How do you know what your kids know without testing?<<<<<

I talk with them, engage them, do things *with* them. They surprise me
everyday with what they know----seemingly out-of-the-blue sometimes!

~Kelly







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