Tina

Wow!! I love the sandwich analogy!! My husband and I have been arguing the difference between spirituality (or faith) and religion, can I share this with him? Maybe he will get it then.

°Ü° Tina Rod. °Ü°

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>>Jaiden Jason and I have been talking about this a bunch more and Jaiden has been wondering were religion and spirituality meet.>>

Okay here's my stab at it. I love this kind of stuff.

>>If a bunch of other people like your sandwich and want it the same way does spirituality become religion? >>

Only if they decide it's the only way to truly make a sandwich, or the only true way to eat and try to convince others. I'm thinking they also might have to decide that no other sandwiches or food even exist. People all wanting the same sandwich could just be enjoying dinner together and not progress to anything more involved.

>>If your sandwich has been selling and then nobody wants to buy it anymore does religion become spiritualiy or does it just go bad and yucky?>>

I think the spirituality is in the fact that it's your sandwich alone. No one else needs to like it the same way. It feeds you and that's what's important.

>>If you've made a sandwich that you think you'd like but hten you taste it and you don't can you just throw it away and make a new one?>>

Why not?

>>What happens if you never make up your mind and get to eat your sandwich.>>

Couldn't you sustain yourself by tasting many different foods without settling on just one?
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<<Only if they decide it's the only way to truly make a sandwich...>>

I don't agree. Most religions are open to the fact that there are other valid religions. Christianity, of course, holds itself as the ONLY way, but most others don't.

Julie S.

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Date: Sunday, January 8, 2006 9:40 pm
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> >>Jaiden Jason and I have been talking about this a bunch more and
> Jaiden has been wondering were religion and spirituality meet.>>
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> Okay here's my stab at it. I love this kind of stuff.
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> >>If a bunch of other people like your sandwich and want it the
> same way does spirituality become religion? >>
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> Only if they decide it's the only way to truly make a sandwich, or
> the only true way to eat and try to convince others. I'm thinking
> they also might have to decide that no other sandwiches or food
> even exist. People all wanting the same sandwich could just be
> enjoying dinner together and not progress to anything more involved.
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> >>If your sandwich has been selling and then nobody wants to buy
> it anymore does religion become spiritualiy or does it just go bad
> and yucky?>>
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> I think the spirituality is in the fact that it's your sandwich
> alone. No one else needs to like it the same way. It feeds you and
> that's what's important.
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> >>If you've made a sandwich that you think you'd like but hten you
> taste it and you don't can you just throw it away and make a new
> one?>>
> Why not?
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> >>What happens if you never make up your mind and get to eat your
> sandwich.>>
> Couldn't you sustain yourself by tasting many different foods
> without settling on just one?
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> ~Mary
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> "The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
> green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
> alive."
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>>Wow!! I love the sandwich analogy!! My husband and I have been arguing the difference between spirituality (or faith) and religion, can I share this with him?>>

Sure.:o)

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~Mary

"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
alive."

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>>Most religions are open to the fact that there are other valid religions. Christianity, of course, holds itself as the ONLY way, but most others don't.>>

But each one has a certain dogma for salvation or enlightenment or whatever. That proscribed path would be the ingredients in the sandwich, no?

So I'd think they acknowledge that people make other sandwiches, but any religious dogma would say that the sandwich is not made in the right way.

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~Mary

"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
alive."

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Su Penn

Religions are really diverse. I'm a part of a religion that doesn't
talk about salvation or enlightenment...or have creeds...or a
proscribed path...and yet we are a well-established religion, not a
fringe or a cult or merely "spirituality." I've been cringing a bit
at the "religions do this" and "religions do that" talk.

My religion is also traditionally Christian (though we're not all
Christians; I'm not). Even at the height of its Christianity, it
didn't consider itself the only valid religion...but it was
definitely Christian. "Christianity" is also a really diverse
phenomenon.

Just feeling uncomfortable with the generalizations, I guess.

Su

On Jan 9, 2006, at 6:12 PM, zenmomma@... wrote:

>>> Most religions are open to the fact that there are other valid
>>> religions. Christianity, of course, holds itself as the ONLY
>>> way, but most others don't.>>
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> But each one has a certain dogma for salvation or enlightenment or
> whatever. That proscribed path would be the ingredients in the
> sandwich, no?
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> So I'd think they acknowledge that people make other sandwiches,
> but any religious dogma would say that the sandwich is not made in
> the right way.

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>>I've been cringing a bit at the "religions do this" and "religions do that" talk.>>

Sorry if I made anyone uncomfortable with my musings. I was trying hard to discuss the original metaphor without offending, but when you're talking religion or politics, well you know how it goes. ;-)

It's probably time to end this discussion anyway.

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~Mary

"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the
green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly
alive."

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