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"... reddish-brown hair, long and sort of
curly/frizzy and wild, and always dressed in bohemian-type long,
swirly skirtsskirts. It was such a distinct picture that I sometimes
forgot I didn't really know what you did look like. HA! Was I off!"

Well....I DID have red hair for two whole days last week.:) It changes regularly. I went to purple and white, now back to a dark blue/bright blue and white. But it's never been frizzy or curly, though I wish sometimes.

And as to the bohemian skirts.....I do that some, but more often I like trendy, black and sleek clothing accented with bright colors. Jeans are a staple though too.:)

I wish we could post a visual of how we see each other just from the posts, and compare it to the real thing. It's interesting. I had pictured Anne Ohman being more curvacious, kinda round face, long hair, always smiling and speaking softly, wearing soft clothing.
NOT!!
She's thin and tall with very short hair and talks very differently than how her posts "sounded" to me. That first conference in '03 was rather strange...seeing all the people in real life that I had very different visuals for.
Joyce Fetteroll was very outspoken and bold in my mind (like her posts) and she's this very quiet, sweet thing in real life!!

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> 1. Re: Intro
> From: jnjstau@...
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> From: "Crystle Bledsoe"
> 3. Re: Captain Underpants
> From:
> 4. Re: Intro
> From: "multimomma"
> 5. Natural learning
> From: "multimomma"
> 6. Re: Email pen pal?what to exchange email addresses?
> From: shirley conaway
> 7. Re: Intro
> From: "Deb"
> 8. Re: Intro
> From: "Deb"
> 9. Re: Natural learning
> From: "Deb"
> 10. Re: Natural learning
> From: "multimomma"
> 11. natural learning
> From: "Ren Allen"
> 12. Welcome to the new members
> From: "Ren Allen"
> 13. Welcome to the new members..
> From: "Ren Allen"
> 14. Re: Re: Intro
> From: "Goff Family"
> 15. Re: natural learning
> From: "Deb"
> 16. Re: Welcome to the new members..
> From: "beanmommy2"
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> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:52:27 -0600
> From: jnjstau@...
> Subject: Re: Intro
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> My son didn't read at 8, not at 10 either, now at 12 and a half, he reads for
> information but not for pleasure at all. He reads cheat code books, yu-gi-oh
> cards, things like that.
>
> At some point, your son will be in a situation where things will go easier if he
> reads, then he will become interested. For my son, he simply got tired of
> waiting for me to have a second to run into the game room to read the
> playstation screen for him. He started trying to figure it out for himself. By
> being an older child, it was easier for him.
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> Julie S.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Goff Family
> Date: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 8:40 pm
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Intro
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> > Hello and Merry Meet.
> > My name is Melody, but I go by Mel. I am Mama to an 8 yr old son
> > and soon to be 5 yr old daughter residing in southern Maine.
> > This is our second year of homeschooling ... last year we tried
> > the "sit down and study this" method as this was what my husband
> > was convinced was homeschooling but after pulling my hair out and
> > my son not learning a thing we radically went to unschooling for
> > the second half of the year. We are very happy with our decision
> > to unschool and I see marked improvements in both my children
> > since making that decision.
> > I do still feel very very much as a newbie so I look forward to
> > sitting back and reading the discussions on list. I am hoping
> > someone might also have suggestions on how to encourage
> > phonics/reading for my son ?? I am trying not to force it on him
> > but he chooses still at 8 yrs of age to not read. This is
> > difficult for me as I am an avid reader but he honestly has no
> > interest yet, Heck even Harry Potter and Pokemon his two favorite
> > characters didn't intice him into reading :(
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> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:52:11 -0800
> From: "Crystle Bledsoe"
> Subject: Re: Email Pen pal?
>
> Hello, Shirley,
> My daughter is eight and she thinks she would like to have a penpal too. I told
> her I would help her as much as she likes. Your daughter can e-mail her at
> lcb@.... Her name is Ivy.
> She hopes to hear from her soon,
> Crystle
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: shirley conaway
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 5:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] Email Pen pal?
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> My daughter is 7 goingto be eight next month. I finallygot her an email
> account. She is having trouble reading too.
> She is so interested in her email that I wonder if it would help her with
> her reading skills if I can findthe right person to write to her.
>
> If any one is interested I will be glad to have her try to write you.
>
> IT WILL BE SCREANED! So do not worry it not beind watched I stand in there
> with her on every peice of mail we receiveor send.
>
> Thanks
> Have a merry Christmas
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> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 09:16:45 -0800 (PST)
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> First of all, Ren: I so enjoy everything you post......your posts seem to
> clarify everything for me.
>
>
> I have two sons aged 8 and 6. They both LOVE the captain underpants books....and
> part of it is the toilet humor.......and I did try to explain about Miss
> Anthropy( so they could get it too) but from the look in their eyes , I did it
> wrong or it was just way over their heads (for now)......!!!!!!!
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> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:36:54 -0000
> From: "multimomma"
> Subject: Re: Intro
>
> I'm curious as to whether he likes to be read to...that will make a big
> difference in
> approach.
>
> All of my kids have taught themselves to read, but I say that loosely, we have a
> big reading
> environment, we read to all of our kids at bedtime and throughout the day, we go
> to the
> library once a week, and at quiet times, they can either lay in bed and sleep or
> read. Guess
> what they choose? Quiet time is somthing that must occur for the little ones,
> what the
> older ones choose to do is their choice, as long as it's quiet.
>
> My 8yo with autism could not read phonetically, we taught her with whole
> language, and
> then after a while she started to pick up phonetics right when she turned eight.
> Like you,
> I'm an avid reader and the thought that one of my kids either couldn't read or
> would
> choose not to broke my heart. Part of it is letting go of some expectations,
> not every child
> will enjoy reading. But we did point out to our kids that once you can read, you
> can learn
> whatever you want through a book.
>
> Looking back, I taught myself how to read, but my brother Chris despised reading
> because
> a) it made no sense in his brain and b) everyone else made it such a big dea
> that he could
> not readl. He taught himself to read when he was older through the catalogs and
> instructions for electronic kits and such.
>
> Anyway, long sprawling reply, hopefully it makes some sense. I'm still sleep
> deprived with
> a newborn nursling, And welcome, i'm new here myself. Still taking notes and
> deciding
> where I fit in ;-)
>
> melissa
> --- In [email protected], "Goff Family" wrote:
> >I am hoping someone might also have suggestions on how to encourage phonics/
> reading for my son ?? I am trying not to force it on him but he chooses still at
> 8 yrs of age
> to not read.
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:47:35 -0000
> From: "multimomma"
> Subject: Natural learning
>
> I had posted in my intro about my daughter with autism, and how we have a fairly
> consistent
> schedule because of her needs, as well as some set table time because the way
> her brain
> works she does need to have certain things done for her so she can understand.
>
> but then I started to think about all the other things that we do, that really
> make our home a
> natural learning environment. Because of her deficits, she does not necessarily
> learn by
> watching, like many kids do, through example. Most of our education is real
> world though,
> and her math is going to the store and buying things, learning how to order at
> fast food
> restaurants, how to pay, get change, etc.
>
> In that way parents are facilitators, what are some other ways that parents on
> this board
> facilitate education? I just wonder if parents here ever contrive a learning
> situation. This past
> week, the kids are interested in chemistry, so I made sure that in our baking
> we talked about
> chemical reactions, changed the recipes some to see how more baking soda
> affected the
> dough, etc. When we were boiling water we started with ice cubes and talked
> about changing
> energy to move through states of matter (josh's interests right now is chemistry
> and narnia)
>
> Anyway, I must go, there's a brawl afoot. Thanks in advance for whatever replies
> I get. :-)
> Melissa
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> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 06:53:31 -0800 (PST)
> From: shirley conaway
> Subject: Re: Email pen pal?what to exchange email addresses?
>
> My daughters 5 and 7 going to be 6 and 8 next month and in march. think that
> they would like to have pen pals that can let them learn to read and type back
> and forth would you b e interested?
> shirl
>
> Ren Allen wrote:
> "She is having trouble reading too."
>
> No, she's not having trouble reading, she's slowly learning to read
> as human's do. If you see her as "having trouble" she's going to
> pick up on that and feel as though something is wrong because she
> isn't living up to your standard.
> She's learning to read. There's no "trouble" with that.
>
> Help her email friends because it brings her joy, because she loves
> doing it, not to "teach" her anything.
> If you can be her scribe, and type while she dictates what to say,
> that will help her learn more joyfully than if you stand over her
> and try to get her to learn about reading (I'm not saying that's
> what you're doing, but that's the image I got when you talked about
> screening her mail).
>
> Unschoolers believe that learning is joyful. So we put the joy
> before the learning, and the learning just unfolds naturally and
> beautifully.
> Put joy first, put your relationship first....and if you're already
> doing that, then just learn to trust that learning will happen.
> Truly.:)
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> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:52:54 -0000
> From: "Deb"
> Subject: Re: Intro
>
> --- In [email protected], "multimomma"
> wrote:
> > But we did point out to our kids that once you can read, you can
> >learn
> > whatever you want through a book.
> Or maybe not - there are lots of things you can learn equally well
> from other sources and some things you really can't learn from a book.
> Ever try learning to ride a bicycle from a book? ASL (American Sign
> Language) can be 'looked up' to find new signs but you have to do
> it/use it to learn it. Our (my family's) best source for that was
> video and websites that use video clips to demonstrate signs. 100
> years ago or so, books were everything and reading was critical to get
> at that information. Today, it's not as critical - important in many
> ways but not as critical. Even the 'classics' of literature are now
> available in cassette and CD forms to listen to - and sometimes
> hearing it is better than reading it (Shakespeare for example is
> designed to see and hear not read).
>
> --Deb
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:05:44 -0000
> From: "Deb"
> Subject: Re: Intro
>
> --- In [email protected], "multimomma"
> wrote:
> >
> > My 8yo with autism could not read phonetically, we taught her with
> >whole language, and
> > then after a while she started to pick up phonetics right when she
> >turned eight.
> My DS (Spirited but not autistic - just to clarify that non-autistic
> people don't necessarily need phonics or autistic people necessarily
> need whole language, each child learns in a unique way) did the
> same - only we didn't 'teach him with whole language' we simply read
> together and answered questions (what does ... say? about a million
> times). Over time *he* developed his own phonics inside his own head
> (as far as I can tell from outside his head) - patterns that he knew
> that he'd match up with patterns he was seeing. We just kept
> answering questions and reading to him when he wanted, listening to
> him read when he chose, and getting out of the way when he wanted to
> read by himself. We'd help out when requested, occasionally point
> out a word that was 'weird', that is, words that look one way but
> are pronounced another (to add more pattern bricks to his
> storehouse).
>
> --Deb
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:17:33 -0000
> From: "Deb"
> Subject: Re: Natural learning
>
> We don't contrive learning situations because life is full of them
> already. If DS -wants- to learn about the properties of baking soda,
> we get out the baking soda and go to town with it (volcanoes are
> always fun!). We do talk about things as he asks or when something is
> interesting *to us*. I'll mention over dinner something I found out
> that was of interest. It may be one sentence and away it goes, it may
> end up being a 20 minute discussion, it may end up leading to
> excursions, websites, and other things down the road, or it may simply
> remain one sentence. If we're baking I might mention that I need to
> measure the baking soda or baking powder carefully (as opposed to
> splashing in the vanilla) and why. In a world brimming over with
> things to explore, we've yet to find a need to contrive anything that
> didn't come up somehow on it's own.
>
> Seems to me (just the way I'm 'hearing' it) that needing to contrive
> learning situations has at back of it an expectation of what kids
> are 'supposed to' know, do, be taught. If they're interested in
> chemistry, get out the household non-toxics and a book of kitchen
> table science and set to it - no need to contrive it, they're already
> asking for it. If they're not asking for it, then contriving it will
> simply go in one ear and out the other because it has no place to
> latch on to.
>
> --Deb
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:05:43 -0000
> From: "multimomma"
> Subject: Re: Natural learning
>
> Perhaps so. But if you bring up a topic they've not yet expressed interest in,
> and then
> they're interested, then that's your 'sentence at the table'. Josh never thought
> that there
> was a math higher than what he already learned. So when I bring up "the next
> step", that's
> fairly contrived. Maybe it's a matter of perception.
>
> I guess still that brick and morter instilled subconscious thought that kids
> won't think of it
> (the next step) on their own. I was having trouble discerning where the kids
> own
> curiousity blends in with a parent introducing a new topic. I thought Josh would
> be
> interested in chemistry, so I pulled up a website and asked what he thought of
> it. Is that
> considered contrived?
>
> Anyway, thanks for the feedback,
> melissa
>
> --- In [email protected], "Deb" wrote:
> > Seems to me (just the way I'm 'hearing' it) that needing to contrive
> > learning situations has at back of it an expectation of what kids
> > are 'supposed to' know, do, be taught. If they're interested in
> > chemistry, get out the household non-toxics and a book of kitchen
> > table science and set to it - no need to contrive it, they're already
> > asking for it. If they're not asking for it, then contriving it will
> > simply go in one ear and out the other because it has no place to
> > latch on to.
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:12:56 -0000
> From: "Ren Allen"
> Subject: natural learning
>
> " So when I bring up "the next
> step", that's
> fairly contrived. Maybe it's a matter of perception."
>
> But see, you're seeing math as "steps"....when it has no
> natural "steps" at all. If you bring some interesting puzzle or
> game or brain teaser to his attention, because you think he'll like
> it, THAT might be broadening his horizons.
> But pointing out some linear step, is really being stuck in school-
> think to me. Math is chess and sudoku and cooking and building and
> guessing and designing and art and.......
> Where are the steps for that? In school, we are taught in a linear
> fashion. You have to learn addition before subtraction, then on to
> muliplication, blah, blah, blah. Nothing could be more contrived and
> less natural than that.
>
> For one, they never tell you that addition and subtraction are the
> same thing (inverse operations is all) and multiplication and
> division are again, mirrors of one another. I never knew you could
> simply add to subtract until I was an adult. argh. Linear "teaching"
> stunts the mind...I want my kids to have no part of that.
>
> It's all part of our journey as schooled minds. WE have to see the
> learning in everything and value it all before unschooling really
> unfolds well for US.:) Kids get it quite well, if we just stay out
> of their way.
>
> I DO expose my children to new and different things than if I just
> waited around for some interest to arise. They don't even know
> what's available out there if we don't share enough of the world
> with them. But sharing interesting people, places and events is part
> of building a LIFE, I don't do it to try and get them to some
> illusory "next step" or to cover some "gap" in their learning.
>
> That's the difference between contrived and natural to me....I agree
> with Deb on that.
>
> Ren
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:19:18 -0000
> From: "Ren Allen"
> Subject: Welcome to the new members
>
> We've had several new folks sign on recently, and I really like to
> welcome everyone individually, but I'm just going to post a
> general "welcome" to you all this time.
>
> I think Rue, DebL and Kelly must be busy with holiday stuff as I seem
> to have many emails to approve each time I log on!!:)
>
> If you haven't had a chance to browse through our "links" section,
> please do so when you have time...it's full of really great websites
> and other recommendations for unschooling information.
>
> Glad you're here,
>
> Ren
> http://radicalunschooling.blogspot.com/
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:31:17 -0000
> From: "Ren Allen"
> Subject: Welcome to the new members..
>
> I told you all about the "links" section and forgot about the "photos"
> section. A few families (including mine) have uploaded pics to
> share...anyone is welcome to add their photos, it's nice to have a
> face with the posts.
>
> I just added a few from the conference (and the tattoo that I got with
> Rue's Jon) and noticed a couple pics I hadn't seen before. It's still
> pretty empty though! So share some photos of your sweet children (and
> yourself).
>
> Ren
> http://radicalunschooling.blogspot.com/
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:52:53 -0500
> From: "Goff Family"
> Subject: Re: Re: Intro
>
> Thank you everyone for your replies and suggestions ... most of all for the
> reassurance that all is not lost LOL
> I will try to answer some of the questions I saw posed to me ... yes, we do read
> aloud to our children and have since before birth (yes I was one to read to my
> belly while pregnant and listen to music too). Both my husband and myself are
> avid readers. We read not only bedtime stories but also the Harry Potter series,
> the Eragon series, Magic Treehouse, Junie B Jones, Phantom Stallion etc with our
> children. We actually have a childrens' book collection to rival some small town
> libraries that is often used and well loved.
> The suggestion about closed captioning ... thank you! I actually enjoy reading
> the TV so I do turn on the cc when the children and I happen to be watching TV
> when Dh isn't home (it annoys hubby to have the scrolling words so we refrain
> when he is home).
> My son loves to have Capt. Underpants read to him and he leafs through the books
> on his own but still no inkling to try reading them. He actually received the
> whole series last month for his birthday and was very excited about them.
> Once again, thank you! I do feel better having read that others have experienced
> their children not being interested in reading at this age. I was beginning to
> feel very alone and as if something was wrong. I am still "learning" about
> unschooling and while I am not as bad as I was last year, LOL, I do find myself
> questioning if they are actually learning sometimes.
>
> )o( Mel
> goff@...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: multimomma
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:36 PM
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Intro
>
>
> I'm curious as to whether he likes to be read to...that will make a big
> difference in
> approach.
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:03:43 -0000
> From: "Deb"
> Subject: Re: natural learning
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ren Allen"
> wrote:
> >In school, we are taught in a linear
> > fashion. You have to learn addition before subtraction, then on to
> > muliplication, blah, blah, blah. Nothing could be more contrived
> >and
> > less natural than that.
> >
> > For one, they never tell you that addition and subtraction are the
> > same thing (inverse operations is all) and multiplication and
> > division are again, mirrors of one another.
> Of course, they do sort of mention that addition and multiplication
> go together - but then again, my DS figured that out simply by
> hearing, doing, seeing it in action without any planning,
> contriving, lessoning. It's patterns and generally speaking kids see
> all sorts of interconnected patterns that we've been trained out of
> in our linear schooling. DS has learned/is learning addition,
> subtraction, multiplication, and division all together because they
> are all parts of a pattern of numbers.
>
> Oh, and that 'sentence at the table' is to express something *I*
> find interesting or intriguing or plain silly, whether or not DH or
> DS follows it up. Last night I mentioned two things (well more than
> two but I remember these two LOL): one was that sales of sauerkraut
> are up because some study or other said that it can fend off bird
> flu; the other was that Bill Gates' house has a trampoline room.
> Random interesting to me tidbits. The sauerkraut got a chuckle from
> DH and nothing from DS. The trampoline room had DS wanting to go
> visit Bill Gates (and a brief discussion of where Bill Gates got all
> the money to build it) and discussion of rooms we could have if we
> had lots of money to build anything we wanted. Simply bringing bits
> of the outside world into our home - the same as we have music and
> movies and books and wire and batteries and legos and videogames and
> recipes and shopping trips and computers and magazines and...it's
> all part and parcel of life and we all 'snack on' whatever is of
> interest at the time.
>
> --Deb
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 15:19:30 -0000
> From: "beanmommy2"
> Subject: Re: Welcome to the new members..
>
> --- In [email protected], "Ren Allen"
> wrote:
> >
> > I told you all about the "links" section and forgot about
> the "photos"
> > section. A few families (including mine) have uploaded pics to
> > share...anyone is welcome to add their photos, it's nice to have a
> > face with the posts.
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> Thanks so much for posting this! I've been listening to tapes from
> the conference and really enjoyed the pics of all those Sorooshians
> to connect with the voices and stories.
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> And Ren, for years I had such a distinct picture in my mind of what
> you looked like ... reddish-brown hair, long and sort of
> curly/frizzy and wild, and always dressed in bohemian-type long,
> swirly skirtsskirts. It was such a distinct picture that I sometimes
> forgot I didn't really know what you did look like. HA! Was I off!
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> Jenny
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In a message dated 12/22/2005 12:17:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:

I wish we could post a visual of how we see each other just from the posts,
and compare it to the real thing. It's interesting.


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When I went to the first conference, I was also still very new to the
message boards. I had Kelly and Ren looking exactly like....each other! Once I
got to know Ren's "voice" a bit more, she still didn't look like she *is* but
a bit of that bohemian-look to her.

Most of my internet pals are surprised to find out my age (currently 40).
I've been told that I "type young". Not sure if that's a good thing, LOL!

Leslie in SC


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--- In [email protected], starsuncloud@c... wrote:

> I wish we could post a visual of how we see each other just from
the posts, and compare it to the real thing. It's interesting. I had
pictured Anne Ohman being more curvacious, kinda round face, long
hair, always smiling and speaking softly, wearing soft clothing.
> NOT!!
> She's thin and tall with very short hair and talks very
differently than how her posts "sounded" to me. That first
conference in '03 was rather strange...seeing all the people in real
life that I had very different visuals for.
> Joyce Fetteroll was very outspoken and bold in my mind (like her
posts) and she's this very quiet, sweet thing in real life!!


When I first started reading about unschooling and read stuff by
Sandra Dodd, knowing nothing about her, I had a definite picture of
her: dirty/sandy blond hair in a very short, business cut; tall and
bony-thin, and a sort of permanent frown on her face. I can still
picture it, years later.

WRONG on all counts!! :)

Jenny