Of Course ABC Stresses that they are homeschooled.
Daniel MacIntyre
from http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=1231684&page=1
*Oct. 20, 2005 � * Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one
album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.
They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the
girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on
their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much
darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach
a message of hate.
...
Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their
mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain
things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives
with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just
like any, any parent would."
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on
everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father
surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs � specifically the Nazi
swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck
and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock
Identification.
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*Oct. 20, 2005 � * Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one
album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.
They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the
girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on
their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much
darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach
a message of hate.
...
Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their
mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain
things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives
with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just
like any, any parent would."
April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on
everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father
surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs � specifically the Nazi
swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck
and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock
Identification.
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Daniel
(Amy is doing a half marathon for Team in Training
Anyone who wants to help can do so by going to:
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Robyn Coburn
<<<< April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective
on everything from current to historical events. >>>>
Not Unschoolers then.
It is pointless to expect that home schooling will never be used as a tool
for narrowing the lives and perspectives of some children.
Robyn L. Coburn
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on everything from current to historical events. >>>>
Not Unschoolers then.
It is pointless to expect that home schooling will never be used as a tool
for narrowing the lives and perspectives of some children.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Angela
<<<It is pointless to expect that home schooling will never be used as a
tool
for narrowing the lives and perspectives of some children.>>>
Did anyone see Wife Swap last week? There was a homeschooled family and a
family where the wife worked almost 24/7. Both families were so out of
balance and the kids were so unhappy. (although it appeared that the
homeschooled kids were happier than the schooled kids who parents just
wanted to buy them everything) What amazes me is that the world is so full
of people who seem to be so narrowly focused and at the same time so anxious
to put their lives up to public scrutiny by being on national television.
Angela
game-enthusiast@...
tool
for narrowing the lives and perspectives of some children.>>>
Did anyone see Wife Swap last week? There was a homeschooled family and a
family where the wife worked almost 24/7. Both families were so out of
balance and the kids were so unhappy. (although it appeared that the
homeschooled kids were happier than the schooled kids who parents just
wanted to buy them everything) What amazes me is that the world is so full
of people who seem to be so narrowly focused and at the same time so anxious
to put their lives up to public scrutiny by being on national television.
Angela
game-enthusiast@...
Donald and Sandra Winn
What amazes me is
worse case scenario for either family, but of course,
the "homeschoolers" usually appear to be the most
screwed up. Mostly, I avoid those shows like the
plague and don't even get me started on those "Nanny"
shows...LOL
Peace and Joy,
~Sandy
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> that the world is so fullI don't like those shows because they usually pick the
> of people who seem to be so narrowly focused and at
> the same time so anxious
> to put their lives up to public scrutiny by being on
> national television.
worse case scenario for either family, but of course,
the "homeschoolers" usually appear to be the most
screwed up. Mostly, I avoid those shows like the
plague and don't even get me started on those "Nanny"
shows...LOL
Peace and Joy,
~Sandy
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In a message dated 10/23/2005 8:23:44 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
game-enthusiast@... writes:
What amazes me is that the world is so full
of people who seem to be so narrowly focused and at the same time so anxious
to put their lives up to public scrutiny by being on national television.
~~~~~~~~~~
I watched one episode of that Nanny 911 when it first came on and my husband
and I were just appalled... There was no respect in the family at all.
Between the parents, the children... it was just awful. There was just no
parenting going on at all. The mother was allowing the children to hit her. She
wasn't really teaching them any form of respect, right or wrong or anything. Just
brushing everything they did off, so the kids had no respect for her and
walked all over her. And the husband did nothing. Except come home from work and
yell and scream. Very sad...
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield, MA
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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game-enthusiast@... writes:
What amazes me is that the world is so full
of people who seem to be so narrowly focused and at the same time so anxious
to put their lives up to public scrutiny by being on national television.
~~~~~~~~~~
I watched one episode of that Nanny 911 when it first came on and my husband
and I were just appalled... There was no respect in the family at all.
Between the parents, the children... it was just awful. There was just no
parenting going on at all. The mother was allowing the children to hit her. She
wasn't really teaching them any form of respect, right or wrong or anything. Just
brushing everything they did off, so the kids had no respect for her and
walked all over her. And the husband did nothing. Except come home from work and
yell and scream. Very sad...
Jenny
Homeschooling in Greenfield, MA
Danny (12-1-99), Kelsey (11-1-01) and Evelyn (5-19-04)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Education is not filling a pail but the lighting of a fire. ~William Butler
Yeats
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joanne
I actually saw a different one where the woman had lost her husband that and thought part of the reason she might have been so unable to respond was she might have been clinically depressed. Joanne
The mother was allowing the children to hit her. She
wasn't really teaching them any form of respect, right or wrong or anything. Just
brushing everything they did off, so the kids had no respect for her and walked all over her.
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The mother was allowing the children to hit her. She
wasn't really teaching them any form of respect, right or wrong or anything. Just
brushing everything they did off, so the kids had no respect for her and walked all over her.
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Amber Kelley
I actually *like* wifeswap for just that reason (they pick people at extreme opposite ends of hte spectrum). I've found that after each episode I have a clearer image of what I believe on that weeks 'focus'. I know that's silly - but wife swap is acutally my favorite show. LOL
I saw the article on Lynx & Lamb too and the same thought came to my mind. They always focus on the fact that they're homeschooled when the kids are considered 'deviant'... *sigh*
Come to think of it - the only time I see hoeschoolers really lauded is in national contests like spelling bees and geography bees etc. Our day will come - the first generation of modern homeschoolers is just hitting their stride. The best is yet to come. Also, alot of these kids have decided to march to their own drummer, they are artists and craftsmen, you don't see alot of hype about those types of people. In a way that's good - homeschool kids can meld into society too. Hmmm.... is that good?
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I saw the article on Lynx & Lamb too and the same thought came to my mind. They always focus on the fact that they're homeschooled when the kids are considered 'deviant'... *sigh*
Come to think of it - the only time I see hoeschoolers really lauded is in national contests like spelling bees and geography bees etc. Our day will come - the first generation of modern homeschoolers is just hitting their stride. The best is yet to come. Also, alot of these kids have decided to march to their own drummer, they are artists and craftsmen, you don't see alot of hype about those types of people. In a way that's good - homeschool kids can meld into society too. Hmmm.... is that good?
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In a message dated 10/29/2005 11:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
I saw the article on Lynx & Lamb too and the same thought came to my mind.
They always focus on the fact that they're homeschooled when the kids are
considered 'deviant'... *sigh*
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But, really, they would HAVE to be homeschooled. There's still plenty of
racism in this country, but this kind of overt racism is socially unacceptable.
The only way to make sure your sweet little children get it is to keep them
close to home. It's kind of like the South Pacific song, "You've got to be
carefully taught."
Seriously, don't we all know some whacked homeschoolers? Just like
homeschooling can enable parents to help make their children's world wider, it can
also be used to make it smaller.
Kathryn
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[email protected] writes:
I saw the article on Lynx & Lamb too and the same thought came to my mind.
They always focus on the fact that they're homeschooled when the kids are
considered 'deviant'... *sigh*
************************************
But, really, they would HAVE to be homeschooled. There's still plenty of
racism in this country, but this kind of overt racism is socially unacceptable.
The only way to make sure your sweet little children get it is to keep them
close to home. It's kind of like the South Pacific song, "You've got to be
carefully taught."
Seriously, don't we all know some whacked homeschoolers? Just like
homeschooling can enable parents to help make their children's world wider, it can
also be used to make it smaller.
Kathryn
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[email protected]
In a message dated 10/30/2005 8:09:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
KathrynJB@... writes:
Seriously, don't we all know some whacked homeschoolers? Just like
homeschooling can enable parents to help make their children's world wider,
it can
also be used to make it smaller.
*****************
I use this analogy alot. The only other homeschoolers in my town attend a
certain church which requires them to use certain church approved curriculum.
So when I say I homeschool here, people immediately think of that church.
I've started saying, "some people think the school's box is too big, so they
homeschool to make it smaller. I think the school's box is too small
already, I homeschool to make it much bigger."
By the way, I've have seen one of the homeschool families from this church
at the local Burger King playground. They were in school-style uniforms!
Talk about a smaller box!
Leslie in SC (shudder!)
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KathrynJB@... writes:
Seriously, don't we all know some whacked homeschoolers? Just like
homeschooling can enable parents to help make their children's world wider,
it can
also be used to make it smaller.
*****************
I use this analogy alot. The only other homeschoolers in my town attend a
certain church which requires them to use certain church approved curriculum.
So when I say I homeschool here, people immediately think of that church.
I've started saying, "some people think the school's box is too big, so they
homeschool to make it smaller. I think the school's box is too small
already, I homeschool to make it much bigger."
By the way, I've have seen one of the homeschool families from this church
at the local Burger King playground. They were in school-style uniforms!
Talk about a smaller box!
Leslie in SC (shudder!)
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Donald and Sandra Winn
"Seriously, don't we all know some whacked
homeschoolers? ~Kathryn
ROFLMAO!!! Oh, Kathryn, this made me laugh, thank
you!
"Just like
homeschooling can enable parents to help make their
children's world wider, it can
also be used to make it smaller."~
That is so true, that it is scary. I do feel sorry
for children who are homeschooled and never get a
chance to do anything for the whole day except
"school". For many families like that, it isn't
always for financial reasons that they don't allow
their children to explore and see things, it's because
they want them to have a narrow-minded view of the
world. I think the racist teenagers are a good
example of that but I realize that it happens in other
areas too.
Happy Learning,
~Sandy
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homeschoolers? ~Kathryn
ROFLMAO!!! Oh, Kathryn, this made me laugh, thank
you!
"Just like
homeschooling can enable parents to help make their
children's world wider, it can
also be used to make it smaller."~
That is so true, that it is scary. I do feel sorry
for children who are homeschooled and never get a
chance to do anything for the whole day except
"school". For many families like that, it isn't
always for financial reasons that they don't allow
their children to explore and see things, it's because
they want them to have a narrow-minded view of the
world. I think the racist teenagers are a good
example of that but I realize that it happens in other
areas too.
Happy Learning,
~Sandy
www.360.yahoo.com/aplan4life
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Daniel MacIntyre
No, there's plenty of overt racism in public schools too - including
organized racism like various neonazi groups. I remember some years
back how neonazis were using schools as recruiting grounds. It was a
pretty big deal at the time - doesn't anyone else remember it?
Actually part of the problem with Lynx & Lamb is that they are
recruiting tools - they could do a LOT of damage in a public school
setting.
organized racism like various neonazi groups. I remember some years
back how neonazis were using schools as recruiting grounds. It was a
pretty big deal at the time - doesn't anyone else remember it?
Actually part of the problem with Lynx & Lamb is that they are
recruiting tools - they could do a LOT of damage in a public school
setting.
On 10/30/05, KathrynJB@... <KathrynJB@...> wrote:
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> In a message dated 10/29/2005 11:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
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> I saw the article on Lynx & Lamb too and the same thought came to my mind.
> They always focus on the fact that they're homeschooled when the kids are
> considered 'deviant'... *sigh*
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> But, really, they would HAVE to be homeschooled. There's still plenty of
> racism in this country, but this kind of overt racism is socially unacceptable.
> The only way to make sure your sweet little children get it is to keep them
> close to home. It's kind of like the South Pacific song, "You've got to be
> carefully taught."
>
> Seriously, don't we all know some whacked homeschoolers? Just like
> homeschooling can enable parents to help make their children's world wider, it can
> also be used to make it smaller.
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OK - it IS still a problem:
http://tinyurl.com/d2wdl
He went on to say that the new face of hate was no longer the mask of
the Ku Klux Klan, but rather everyday youth from all walks of life.
"We have now begun to see in the last 10 years, here in the
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, organized white supremacists coming into
communities, large and small, and showing up in elementary schools,
high schools, and college campuses in an attempt to recruit people,"
he said.
http://tinyurl.com/d2wdl
He went on to say that the new face of hate was no longer the mask of
the Ku Klux Klan, but rather everyday youth from all walks of life.
"We have now begun to see in the last 10 years, here in the
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, organized white supremacists coming into
communities, large and small, and showing up in elementary schools,
high schools, and college campuses in an attempt to recruit people,"
he said.
On 10/31/05, Daniel MacIntyre <daniel.macintyre@...> wrote:
> No, there's plenty of overt racism in public schools too - including
> organized racism like various neonazi groups. I remember some years
> back how neonazis were using schools as recruiting grounds. It was a
> pretty big deal at the time - doesn't anyone else remember it?
>
> Actually part of the problem with Lynx & Lamb is that they are
> recruiting tools - they could do a LOT of damage in a public school
> setting.
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> On 10/30/05, KathrynJB@... <KathrynJB@...> wrote:
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> > In a message dated 10/29/2005 11:51:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [email protected] writes:
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> > I saw the article on Lynx & Lamb too and the same thought came to my mind.
> > They always focus on the fact that they're homeschooled when the kids are
> > considered 'deviant'... *sigh*
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> > But, really, they would HAVE to be homeschooled. There's still plenty of
> > racism in this country, but this kind of overt racism is socially unacceptable.
> > The only way to make sure your sweet little children get it is to keep them
> > close to home. It's kind of like the South Pacific song, "You've got to be
> > carefully taught."
> >
> > Seriously, don't we all know some whacked homeschoolers? Just like
> > homeschooling can enable parents to help make their children's world wider, it can
> > also be used to make it smaller.
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I caught a bit of Bill Mayer on HBO and he was discussing the homeschool
aspect of the girls, too. He said that kids should be in school five days and
week and that people should reserve the weekend to "F*** your kids up."
The thing the media is failing to see is that these kids would probably not
be in public school, they would be in a religious school. They would still
probably be raised in the same way and without "proper socialization".
Is there anyone around here articulate enough to write such a letter to ABC?
:)
Leslie in SC
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aspect of the girls, too. He said that kids should be in school five days and
week and that people should reserve the weekend to "F*** your kids up."
The thing the media is failing to see is that these kids would probably not
be in public school, they would be in a religious school. They would still
probably be raised in the same way and without "proper socialization".
Is there anyone around here articulate enough to write such a letter to ABC?
:)
Leslie in SC
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Heather
Forwarded from [email protected] (Washington Natural Learning
Association)-
Racist Twins are not Home-Educators but Charter schoolers.
New broke about the white nationalist twins that were being homeschooled.
This hit national news again bringing up the debate about whether
home-education should be legal. Talk show hosts said that homeschoolers
should be in public school so that they can get a proper socialisation. It
turns out they were all wrong. An interview (
http://www.natvan.com/pub/2005/040905.txt ) by the twins mother shows they
are actually charter schoolers, that they have always been enrolled in
public school. Lets take a look at where the damage was done:
April Gaede - Yes, I have. And I've done it without an "approved"
curriculum. I made up my own curriculum. I refused to use the state
curriculum that was authorized by the charter school. And I was able to get
away with that for all those years -- I guess I was just too staunch and
argumentative about it for them to argue with me too much. And what I've
done is use a lot of books from the 1950s -- from the years before "civil
rights" and feminism became so evident in a lot of the books.
This once again show the damage that is done by the mixing of terms, and
lumping everyone into the homeschool title. All over the net people are
questioning home-education and what they should be questioning is charter
schooling. Be sure to correct anyone you hear with the wrong information.
Bec Thomas
National Independent Home-Education Network
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NIHN/
The interview is dated April 9, 2005 and I read most of it.
Come to find out the girls are now in school.
Their mom says "Lamb and Lynx have now started going to school, after these
seven years. And I'm very pleased to announce that they're doing very well."
Heather
Tucson AZ
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Association)-
Racist Twins are not Home-Educators but Charter schoolers.
New broke about the white nationalist twins that were being homeschooled.
This hit national news again bringing up the debate about whether
home-education should be legal. Talk show hosts said that homeschoolers
should be in public school so that they can get a proper socialisation. It
turns out they were all wrong. An interview (
http://www.natvan.com/pub/2005/040905.txt ) by the twins mother shows they
are actually charter schoolers, that they have always been enrolled in
public school. Lets take a look at where the damage was done:
April Gaede - Yes, I have. And I've done it without an "approved"
curriculum. I made up my own curriculum. I refused to use the state
curriculum that was authorized by the charter school. And I was able to get
away with that for all those years -- I guess I was just too staunch and
argumentative about it for them to argue with me too much. And what I've
done is use a lot of books from the 1950s -- from the years before "civil
rights" and feminism became so evident in a lot of the books.
This once again show the damage that is done by the mixing of terms, and
lumping everyone into the homeschool title. All over the net people are
questioning home-education and what they should be questioning is charter
schooling. Be sure to correct anyone you hear with the wrong information.
Bec Thomas
National Independent Home-Education Network
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NIHN/
The interview is dated April 9, 2005 and I read most of it.
Come to find out the girls are now in school.
Their mom says "Lamb and Lynx have now started going to school, after these
seven years. And I'm very pleased to announce that they're doing very well."
Heather
Tucson AZ
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From: Donald and Sandra Winn aplan4life@...
That is so true, that it is scary. I do feel sorry
for children who are homeschooled and never get a
chance to do anything for the whole day except
"school".
-=-=-=-
I was visiting a neighborhood homeschooling family one afternoon---just to pick up something. Kids got giggly and silly (nine of them!). Mom yelled: "If you're not LEARNING, you're CLEANING!"
Talk about future avoidance issues!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
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From: Donald and Sandra Winn aplan4life@...
That is so true, that it is scary. I do feel sorry
for children who are homeschooled and never get a
chance to do anything for the whole day except
"school".
-=-=-=-
I was visiting a neighborhood homeschooling family one afternoon---just to pick up something. Kids got giggly and silly (nine of them!). Mom yelled: "If you're not LEARNING, you're CLEANING!"
Talk about future avoidance issues!
~Kelly
Kelly Lovejoy
Conference Coordinator
Live and Learn Unschooling Conference
http://liveandlearnconference.org
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