camden

This is what I found on Maine laws. I'm a little confused. Is it saying I can "allow" my kids to drink or can't I ?

First one:

Under 21

Illegal Possession

It is a civil violation for any person under the age of 21 to possess liquor or imitation liquor except if it is within the scope of their employment or in their home in the presence of their parent. Fines for illegal possession are as follows:

1st Offense $100 to $300;
2nd Offense $200 to $500; and
3rd or Subsequent Offenses $500.
Youths 17 years or younger are charged with the juvenile crime of illegal possession.


Second one:
Over 21

Furnishing Liquor to a Minor

Any person who furnishes liquor to a minor, or allows a minor under that person's control, or in any place under that person's control, to possess or consume liquor, may be fined $2,000 and/or sentenced up to one year in jail. If the minor is less than 14 years old, or the violation is a second offense within six years, the minimum penalty is $1,000 fine and up to six months in jail.





So when I give my son a sip, are they saying I am or am not going to get a fine and jail? Not that I really care, what are they going to do stand in the middle of the country and watch in my windows?



Carol







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soggyboysmom

--- In [email protected], camden <ccoutlaw@d...>
wrote:
> This is what I found on Maine laws. I'm a little confused. Is it
saying I can "allow" my kids to drink or can't I ?
>
> First one:
>
> Under 21
>
> Illegal Possession
>
> It is a civil violation for any person under the age of 21 to
possess liquor or imitation liquor except if it is within the scope
of their employment or in their home in the presence of their
parent. Fines for illegal possession are as follows:
>
> 1st Offense $100 to $300;
> 2nd Offense $200 to $500; and
> 3rd or Subsequent Offenses $500.
> Youths 17 years or younger are charged with the juvenile
crime of illegal possession.
>
>
> Second one:
> Over 21
>
> Furnishing Liquor to a Minor
>
> Any person who furnishes liquor to a minor, or allows a
minor under that person's control, or in any place under that
person's control, to possess or consume liquor, may be fined $2,000
and/or sentenced up to one year in jail. If the minor is less than
14 years old, or the violation is a second offense within six years,
the minimum penalty is $1,000 fine and up to six months in jail.
>
>
>
>
>
> So when I give my son a sip, are they saying I am or am not
going to get a fine and jail? Not that I really care, what are they
going to do stand in the middle of the country and watch in my
windows?
>
>
>
> Carol
>
>
The first one seems to be regarding possession, not consumption - so
that would affect 18 - 20 yr olds who work as staff in places like
Friday's and Chili's and such where customers ordering dinner might
order a beer and the 'minor' would be in possession of said beer
from the bar to the table. They wouldn't be drinking it, just
transporting it. The second seems to refer to minors consuming
alcohol.

--Deb

camden

The first one says "or in their home in the presence of their
parent. " It just seems a little confusing.

****************************


--- In [email protected], camden <ccoutlaw@d...>
wrote:
> This is what I found on Maine laws. I'm a little confused. Is it
saying I can "allow" my kids to drink or can't I ?
>
> First one:
>
> Under 21
>
> Illegal Possession
>
> It is a civil violation for any person under the age of 21 to
possess liquor or imitation liquor except if it is within the scope
of their employment or in their home in the presence of their
parent. Fines for illegal possession are as follows:
>
> 1st Offense $100 to $300;
> 2nd Offense $200 to $500; and
> 3rd or Subsequent Offenses $500.
> Youths 17 years or younger are charged with the juvenile
crime of illegal possession.
>
>
> Second one:
> Over 21
>
> Furnishing Liquor to a Minor
>
> Any person who furnishes liquor to a minor, or allows a
minor under that person's control, or in any place under that
person's control, to possess or consume liquor, may be fined $2,000
and/or sentenced up to one year in jail. If the minor is less than
14 years old, or the violation is a second offense within six years,
the minimum penalty is $1,000 fine and up to six months in jail.
>
>
>
>
>
> So when I give my son a sip, are they saying I am or am not
going to get a fine and jail? Not that I really care, what are they
going to do stand in the middle of the country and watch in my
windows?
>
>
>
> Carol
>
>
The first one seems to be regarding possession, not consumption - so
that would affect 18 - 20 yr olds who work as staff in places like
Friday's and Chili's and such where customers ordering dinner might
order a beer and the 'minor' would be in possession of said beer
from the bar to the table. They wouldn't be drinking it, just
transporting it. The second seems to refer to minors consuming
alcohol.

--Deb





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soggyboysmom

--- In [email protected], camden <ccoutlaw@d...>
wrote:
> The first one says "or in their home in the presence of their
> parent. " It just seems a little confusing.

It is only referring to -possession- not -consumption- in the first
one.

The second refers to possession AND consumption.

So if you hand your child a beer to give to Dad out mowing the lawn,
that's fine (as far as I can figure out) but if you hand your child
a beer - for the purpose of your child drinking it - that's where
the second one kicks in. "Furnishing" seems to indicate giving
something to someone with the intent that that person keep it and
use it themself.
--Deb
> ****************************
> > Illegal Possession
> >
> > It is a civil violation for any person under the age of 21 to
> possess liquor or imitation liquor except if it is within the
>scope
> of their employment or in their home in the presence of their
> parent. Fines for illegal possession are as follows:
> >
> > 1st Offense $100 to $300;
> > 2nd Offense $200 to $500; and
> > 3rd or Subsequent Offenses $500.
> > Youths 17 years or younger are charged with the juvenile
> crime of illegal possession.
> >
> >
> > Second one:
> > Over 21
> >
> > Furnishing Liquor to a Minor
> >
> > Any person who furnishes liquor to a minor, or allows a
> minor under that person's control, or in any place under that
> person's control, to possess or consume liquor, may be fined
>$2,000
> and/or sentenced up to one year in jail. If the minor is less
>than
> 14 years old, or the violation is a second offense within six
>years,
> the minimum penalty is $1,000 fine and up to six months in jail.

Sylvia Toyama

The first one seems to be regarding possession, not consumption - so that would affect 18 - 20 yr olds who work as staff in places like
Friday's and Chili's and such where customers ordering dinner might
order a beer and the 'minor' would be in possession of said beer
from the bar to the table. They wouldn't be drinking it, just
transporting it.

*****

In NM, it's illegal for a checker/cashier under age 21 to even scan alcohol and put it into your bag. The grocery store here has signs for the register when the checker is underage telling customers they can't buy alcohol at that register. At Walmart, the underage checker has to call a manager to pick up the alcohol container, scan it and put it into the bag -- they aren't even allowed to touch it.

Just totally bizzare.

Sylvia


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Daniel MacIntyre

The second one actually states possession OR consumption

The difference between the two laws seems more to me to be who gets
charged. In the first one, the minor gets charged, while in the
second one, the furnisher gets charged.

Kind of like the difference between possessing drugs and distributing them.

On the plus side, the second one would be harder to prove - basically
you would need a witness observing the actual change in possession,
while in the first one you would only need to see that the child had
the alcohol.

On 8/25/05, soggyboysmom <debra.rossing@...> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], camden <ccoutlaw@d...>
> wrote:
> > The first one says "or in their home in the presence of their
> > parent. " It just seems a little confusing.
>
> It is only referring to -possession- not -consumption- in the first
> one.
>
> The second refers to possession AND consumption.
>
> So if you hand your child a beer to give to Dad out mowing the lawn,
> that's fine (as far as I can figure out) but if you hand your child
> a beer - for the purpose of your child drinking it - that's where
> the second one kicks in. "Furnishing" seems to indicate giving
> something to someone with the intent that that person keep it and
> use it themself.
> --Deb
> > ****************************
> > > Illegal Possession
> > >
> > > It is a civil violation for any person under the age of 21 to
> > possess liquor or imitation liquor except if it is within the
> >scope
> > of their employment or in their home in the presence of their
> > parent. Fines for illegal possession are as follows:
> > >
> > > 1st Offense $100 to $300;
> > > 2nd Offense $200 to $500; and
> > > 3rd or Subsequent Offenses $500.
> > > Youths 17 years or younger are charged with the juvenile
> > crime of illegal possession.
> > >
> > >
> > > Second one:
> > > Over 21
> > >
> > > Furnishing Liquor to a Minor
> > >
> > > Any person who furnishes liquor to a minor, or allows a
> > minor under that person's control, or in any place under that
> > person's control, to possess or consume liquor, may be fined
> >$2,000
> > and/or sentenced up to one year in jail. If the minor is less
> >than
> > 14 years old, or the violation is a second offense within six
> >years,
> > the minimum penalty is $1,000 fine and up to six months in jail.
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