re:structure
Liza, Noah, Cricket, and Lucy Gottlieb
Wow!! I am finding this conversation FASCINATING! I too have just
begun unschooling my little ones - they're 2 and 3.
I am glad Judy freely put forth her day, and then I was glad about
all the replies it generated because reading these lists is how I'm
learning about unschooling. That said, I'm glad it wasn't me who
caught the flack ;) ! Judy, I am so impressed that you hung in
there and remained open for conversation.
I have been struggling with the whole unschooling/nap and bedtime
issue and have been rooting around for some information out there
but not finding too much yet. I have to admit I'm totally reluctant
to give up naptimes- my girls take 3 hr. naps and it's the only
chance I have to get online (the computer's not accessible for me at
night). But I have to coerce them to sleep... it's not usually
hard, but sometimes it is. I suppose it could be argued that if
they nap that long, they'll surely continue to nap on their own, but
I'm scared! I need the breather myself. ANYWAYS! I know the
bottom line is that my gals learn to read their own signs. I know
they can do it. I'm getting there...>>we're<< getting there...
Thank all of you who wrote (and with eloquence and humor) to this
topic. My brain began to crack open when I discovered unschooling,
and it's about to turn inside out now!! How refreshing!
We live with my husband's parents who have opinions on everything
including the girls' naptimes and Family Dinner. Thanks to this
list, I'm armed and ready and growing quite confident in my OWN
opinions!
Oh, and I spend a fair amount of time on AlwaysUnschooled... it is
absolutely fabulous.
Liza
btw- is anyone aware of an unschooling-and-living-with-inlaws list??
begun unschooling my little ones - they're 2 and 3.
I am glad Judy freely put forth her day, and then I was glad about
all the replies it generated because reading these lists is how I'm
learning about unschooling. That said, I'm glad it wasn't me who
caught the flack ;) ! Judy, I am so impressed that you hung in
there and remained open for conversation.
I have been struggling with the whole unschooling/nap and bedtime
issue and have been rooting around for some information out there
but not finding too much yet. I have to admit I'm totally reluctant
to give up naptimes- my girls take 3 hr. naps and it's the only
chance I have to get online (the computer's not accessible for me at
night). But I have to coerce them to sleep... it's not usually
hard, but sometimes it is. I suppose it could be argued that if
they nap that long, they'll surely continue to nap on their own, but
I'm scared! I need the breather myself. ANYWAYS! I know the
bottom line is that my gals learn to read their own signs. I know
they can do it. I'm getting there...>>we're<< getting there...
Thank all of you who wrote (and with eloquence and humor) to this
topic. My brain began to crack open when I discovered unschooling,
and it's about to turn inside out now!! How refreshing!
We live with my husband's parents who have opinions on everything
including the girls' naptimes and Family Dinner. Thanks to this
list, I'm armed and ready and growing quite confident in my OWN
opinions!
Oh, and I spend a fair amount of time on AlwaysUnschooled... it is
absolutely fabulous.
Liza
btw- is anyone aware of an unschooling-and-living-with-inlaws list??
scrapgal
--- In [email protected], "Liza, Noah, Cricket, and
Lucy Gottlieb" <lizarosegottlieb@y...> wrote:
Ya know? that is about the scariest thing I could think of doing -
that or my own parents. <shudder> You have a whole different set
of struggles to allow your daughters to grow up free from schooling!
Michelle
Lucy Gottlieb" <lizarosegottlieb@y...> wrote:
> Lizalist??
>
> btw- is anyone aware of an unschooling-and-living-with-inlaws
Ya know? that is about the scariest thing I could think of doing -
that or my own parents. <shudder> You have a whole different set
of struggles to allow your daughters to grow up free from schooling!
Michelle
Pam Sorooshian
On Mar 15, 2005, at 7:36 AM, Liza, Noah, Cricket, and Lucy Gottlieb
wrote:
asleep. If they're sleeping 3 hours, they clearly need it.
Don't be scared, be pro-active.
How do you "coerce" anybody to sleep, anyway? Oh - you probably mean
that you force them to stay in their bed and once you do that, they
fall asleep?
How about lying down with them? How about reading aloud? How about a
soothing cd or tape? I used to put on raucous music at first, because
my now-20 yo would resist even listening if she knew it was intended to
'soothe" her <G>. Then I'd switch to something calmer and she would be
soothed and she'd fall asleep.
-pam
wrote:
> I have to admit I'm totally reluctantSounds like you just need to find a better way to help them fall
> to give up naptimes- my girls take 3 hr. naps and it's the only
> chance I have to get online (the computer's not accessible for me at
> night). But I have to coerce them to sleep... it's not usually
> hard, but sometimes it is. I suppose it could be argued that if
> they nap that long, they'll surely continue to nap on their own, but
> I'm scared!
asleep. If they're sleeping 3 hours, they clearly need it.
Don't be scared, be pro-active.
How do you "coerce" anybody to sleep, anyway? Oh - you probably mean
that you force them to stay in their bed and once you do that, they
fall asleep?
How about lying down with them? How about reading aloud? How about a
soothing cd or tape? I used to put on raucous music at first, because
my now-20 yo would resist even listening if she knew it was intended to
'soothe" her <G>. Then I'd switch to something calmer and she would be
soothed and she'd fall asleep.
-pam
soggyboysmom
--- In [email protected], Pam Sorooshian
<pamsoroosh@e...> wrote:
really remember much) is my dad tape recorded himself reading our
favorite stories aloud. He'd end each recording with kisses to each
of us. Mom would lay down with all 3 of us (she needed the nap just
as much since she's a cardiac patient, had a stroke when my little
sister was an infant, my brother was 3 and I was 5) and click play.
By the time the tape finished, we'd all be asleep, comforted by the
sound of Daddy's voice. Bonus for Mom was she could relax too - she
didn't have to stay up to read to us.
<pamsoroosh@e...> wrote:
>One of the things my folks tell us they did (we were too little to
> How about lying down with them? How about reading aloud? How about
>a soothing cd or tape? >
> -pam
really remember much) is my dad tape recorded himself reading our
favorite stories aloud. He'd end each recording with kisses to each
of us. Mom would lay down with all 3 of us (she needed the nap just
as much since she's a cardiac patient, had a stroke when my little
sister was an infant, my brother was 3 and I was 5) and click play.
By the time the tape finished, we'd all be asleep, comforted by the
sound of Daddy's voice. Bonus for Mom was she could relax too - she
didn't have to stay up to read to us.
Judy Anderson
I am glad I am not the only one benefitting from my discomfort at having my
long-held beliefs pried open and poked and jabbed and torn to shreds. :)
The hardest part for me right now is realizing how many of my parenting
skills are, shall we say, less than ideal. I love my children with all my
heart. I want them to grow up to be happy, healthy and strong in all
aspects of life. Now is a time when I need to apply the saying, "I did what
I knew; then when I knew better, I did better." That helps me to not beat
myself up over poor choices I amy have made in the past (I'm really good at
beating myself up). I am very much a show-me person. I am a natural
skeptic. But I also know that I am not perfect, and I will not get any
better if I don't view new ideas with an open mind. It also helps if I am
shown how to take the first couple of steps so I know that I have the right
idea. My personal learning method is to hear of or read mention of an idea,
then read about it and think about the logic behind the idea, then look for
scientific evidence or lots of anecdotal evidence, and finally to try it for
myself. I think I am ready to make that last step.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: Liza, Noah, Cricket, and Lucy Gottlieb
[mailto:lizarosegottlieb@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] re:structure
Wow!! I am finding this conversation FASCINATING! I too have just
begun unschooling my little ones - they're 2 and 3.
I am glad Judy freely put forth her day, and then I was glad about
all the replies it generated because reading these lists is how I'm
learning about unschooling. That said, I'm glad it wasn't me who
caught the flack ;) ! Judy, I am so impressed that you hung in
there and remained open for conversation.
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long-held beliefs pried open and poked and jabbed and torn to shreds. :)
The hardest part for me right now is realizing how many of my parenting
skills are, shall we say, less than ideal. I love my children with all my
heart. I want them to grow up to be happy, healthy and strong in all
aspects of life. Now is a time when I need to apply the saying, "I did what
I knew; then when I knew better, I did better." That helps me to not beat
myself up over poor choices I amy have made in the past (I'm really good at
beating myself up). I am very much a show-me person. I am a natural
skeptic. But I also know that I am not perfect, and I will not get any
better if I don't view new ideas with an open mind. It also helps if I am
shown how to take the first couple of steps so I know that I have the right
idea. My personal learning method is to hear of or read mention of an idea,
then read about it and think about the logic behind the idea, then look for
scientific evidence or lots of anecdotal evidence, and finally to try it for
myself. I think I am ready to make that last step.
Judy
-----Original Message-----
From: Liza, Noah, Cricket, and Lucy Gottlieb
[mailto:lizarosegottlieb@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 10:36 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] re:structure
Wow!! I am finding this conversation FASCINATING! I too have just
begun unschooling my little ones - they're 2 and 3.
I am glad Judy freely put forth her day, and then I was glad about
all the replies it generated because reading these lists is how I'm
learning about unschooling. That said, I'm glad it wasn't me who
caught the flack ;) ! Judy, I am so impressed that you hung in
there and remained open for conversation.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]