horror stories & neglect was RE: hi again
Sunita T.
I was also wondering about any horror stories...thx for the answer... also I was wondering what do you all think is the line between unschooling and neglect? i mean, it might be confusing for some people (other than me :D) as to what is considered neglect... you leave the kid to do their thing.... that could be considered neglect to many i guess... i dunno im still learning so please cut me some slack on this :) thx in advance for the answers!!
oh yeah, and as for people in your business... no one has ever liked how i raise my kid...im a "radically different" parent they say... it's very interesting... i can already see the benefits to the way i parent my son as opposed to someone else who has a son only 3 mos older than mine. we parent so much differently. anyway,,,thats all for now
Suni
From: kbcdlovejo@...
Subject: Re: hi again
In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:15:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJeanne28@... writes:
Ok.I get where you all are coming from.Have any of you ever heard of
any unschooling horror stories? I know you have all told me great
things about unschooling(a few I still just dont get)but is there any
downsides or bad things you have heard about it?Like I have nosy
neighbors who would love to call the authorities if my kids are out
playing and not doing "schoolwork".<<<<
No horror stories from people who understand the philosophy and who put
it
into action.
I know of a family that simply neglects the kids and call it
unschooling. It
isn't.
Bad things? In-laws and friends and strangers who are constantly
questioning
you on what you're doing. You can let them get to you, you can ignore
them,
or you can tell them to mind their own business.
Nosy neighbors? That's a neighbor problem, not an unschooling one. Tell
them
you are following the law.
~Kelly
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oh yeah, and as for people in your business... no one has ever liked how i raise my kid...im a "radically different" parent they say... it's very interesting... i can already see the benefits to the way i parent my son as opposed to someone else who has a son only 3 mos older than mine. we parent so much differently. anyway,,,thats all for now
Suni
From: kbcdlovejo@...
Subject: Re: hi again
In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:15:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJeanne28@... writes:
Ok.I get where you all are coming from.Have any of you ever heard of
any unschooling horror stories? I know you have all told me great
things about unschooling(a few I still just dont get)but is there any
downsides or bad things you have heard about it?Like I have nosy
neighbors who would love to call the authorities if my kids are out
playing and not doing "schoolwork".<<<<
No horror stories from people who understand the philosophy and who put
it
into action.
I know of a family that simply neglects the kids and call it
unschooling. It
isn't.
Bad things? In-laws and friends and strangers who are constantly
questioning
you on what you're doing. You can let them get to you, you can ignore
them,
or you can tell them to mind their own business.
Nosy neighbors? That's a neighbor problem, not an unschooling one. Tell
them
you are following the law.
~Kelly
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
mamaaj2000
--- In [email protected], "Sunita T."
<kingzjewel@y...> wrote:
between unschooling and neglect?
I'd say strewing and helping the kids follow their interests. Big
difference btn actively looking for opportunities (like I'm doing
with animals for dd) and just sitting back and not taking her to the
zoo, aquarium or pointing out the animals around us.
It is hard at first to see how active unschooling parents are at
offering activites. Part of it is stopping yourself from setting the
agenda and teaching it, but you replace those behaviors with
something: searching for new things to do, helping the kids follow
their interests and passions.
And read Danielle's blog--no way to mistake what they do for neglect!
<kingzjewel@y...> wrote:
>answer... also I was wondering what do you all think is the line
> I was also wondering about any horror stories...thx for the
between unschooling and neglect?
I'd say strewing and helping the kids follow their interests. Big
difference btn actively looking for opportunities (like I'm doing
with animals for dd) and just sitting back and not taking her to the
zoo, aquarium or pointing out the animals around us.
It is hard at first to see how active unschooling parents are at
offering activites. Part of it is stopping yourself from setting the
agenda and teaching it, but you replace those behaviors with
something: searching for new things to do, helping the kids follow
their interests and passions.
And read Danielle's blog--no way to mistake what they do for neglect!
pam sorooshian
On Jan 13, 2005, at 9:22 AM, Sunita T. wrote:
attention. You're available to interact, to bounce ideas off of, to
provide ideas and resources. You offer transportation. You keep your
eye out for ways to help, support, facilitate, encourage. You create a
rich environment FILLED with opportunities to expand their horizons, to
discover interests, to pick up either tidbits of information or
truckloads of information, depending on their interest level. You are
very much involved.
readily apparent to those who are close enough to observe their
interaction. But, you're right, it may not be apparent to someone who
is looking for 'teaching' and not seeing it.
-pam
> you leave the kid to do their thing....You don't just leave the kid alone to do their own thing. You're paying
attention. You're available to interact, to bounce ideas off of, to
provide ideas and resources. You offer transportation. You keep your
eye out for ways to help, support, facilitate, encourage. You create a
rich environment FILLED with opportunities to expand their horizons, to
discover interests, to pick up either tidbits of information or
truckloads of information, depending on their interest level. You are
very much involved.
> that could be considered neglect to many i guess... i dunno im stillThe difference between a neglectful parent and an unschooling parent is
> learning so please cut me some slack on this :) thx in advance for
> the answers!!
readily apparent to those who are close enough to observe their
interaction. But, you're right, it may not be apparent to someone who
is looking for 'teaching' and not seeing it.
-pam
J. Stauffer
<<<what do you all think is the line between unschooling and neglect? >>>>
This is really tricky because really good, top notch unschooling can appear to be neglect to someone who doesn't know unschooling or perhaps the people involved.
Example: Adriane is 14 and loves gymnastics. She has broken 2 bones and had a very severe sprain in the last 3 years. The most recent break was on a growth plate which could potentially disfigure her arm and hand.
Friends have been appalled that we continue to "allow" Adriane to compete in gymnastics...they feel we are neglecting her health. We feel we are providing her with information and supporting her dream.
Julie S.
This is really tricky because really good, top notch unschooling can appear to be neglect to someone who doesn't know unschooling or perhaps the people involved.
Example: Adriane is 14 and loves gymnastics. She has broken 2 bones and had a very severe sprain in the last 3 years. The most recent break was on a growth plate which could potentially disfigure her arm and hand.
Friends have been appalled that we continue to "allow" Adriane to compete in gymnastics...they feel we are neglecting her health. We feel we are providing her with information and supporting her dream.
Julie S.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sunita T.
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 11:22 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] horror stories & neglect was RE: hi again
I was also wondering about any horror stories...thx for the answer... also I was wondering what do you all think is the line between unschooling and neglect? i mean, it might be confusing for some people (other than me :D) as to what is considered neglect... you leave the kid to do their thing.... that could be considered neglect to many i guess... i dunno im still learning so please cut me some slack on this :) thx in advance for the answers!!
oh yeah, and as for people in your business... no one has ever liked how i raise my kid...im a "radically different" parent they say... it's very interesting... i can already see the benefits to the way i parent my son as opposed to someone else who has a son only 3 mos older than mine. we parent so much differently. anyway,,,thats all for now
Suni
From: kbcdlovejo@...
Subject: Re: hi again
In a message dated 1/10/2005 5:15:25 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJeanne28@... writes:
Ok.I get where you all are coming from.Have any of you ever heard of
any unschooling horror stories? I know you have all told me great
things about unschooling(a few I still just dont get)but is there any
downsides or bad things you have heard about it?Like I have nosy
neighbors who would love to call the authorities if my kids are out
playing and not doing "schoolwork".<<<<
No horror stories from people who understand the philosophy and who put
it
into action.
I know of a family that simply neglects the kids and call it
unschooling. It
isn't.
Bad things? In-laws and friends and strangers who are constantly
questioning
you on what you're doing. You can let them get to you, you can ignore
them,
or you can tell them to mind their own business.
Nosy neighbors? That's a neighbor problem, not an unschooling one. Tell
them
you are following the law.
~Kelly
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