I need courage!
cartoontv5
Hi.I am a new member to this group.For many years Ihave struggled
with the idea of unschooling.Ilove the idea of my children
being "free".I have 5 children ages 7mths,2,7,10,12.We are using a
curriculum at this time.
I have always been afraid that I would let them down somehow or that
they would not have the skills needed later in life.
How can I help them all at once or pay for everyones different
interests and trips ect. which go with unschooling?
Most people that I read about who are unschoolers have one or maybe
two children and were once schoolteachers or have degrees in
something.I only have a GED, and I dont know or understand a lot.
I have never met any unschoolers in person.I would love to hear any
advice or comments.Thanks,
Jeanne
with the idea of unschooling.Ilove the idea of my children
being "free".I have 5 children ages 7mths,2,7,10,12.We are using a
curriculum at this time.
I have always been afraid that I would let them down somehow or that
they would not have the skills needed later in life.
How can I help them all at once or pay for everyones different
interests and trips ect. which go with unschooling?
Most people that I read about who are unschoolers have one or maybe
two children and were once schoolteachers or have degrees in
something.I only have a GED, and I dont know or understand a lot.
I have never met any unschoolers in person.I would love to hear any
advice or comments.Thanks,
Jeanne
Cheyenne Cain
Letting go can be very scary indeed.
Have you read or researched any? John Holt and John
Waldrof are excellent places to start. There is a web
site called radical unschooling. I can't remember the
web adress but you can google it or I am sure someone
else who knows it will post it for you.
I only have one child but I am a single mom making
less then $1,000 a month. I get no child support or
goverment assistiant. So I know all about having to
skimp, skip, borrow and second hand find. There is a
great book, can't remember the name of it either but
it's all about how to use the whole world as a
classroom. It has loads of frugal ideas :) There is
another book I found at Barnes and Noble
"Carschooling". It's great. It's full of ideas on how
to turn your car into a learning machine. ;>)
As far as "knowing" things in order to teach our
children.......I'm sure most of us would agree that
our job as an unschooling parent isn't so much to
teach them as it is to point them in the right
direction on how to get the answer. If you have no
idea admit it and offer to help them find the answer.
I believe it is more important to teach our kids how
to learn for themselves. Is it really that important
that they know all the capitals or that they could
find them on a map if they needed to. Silly example
but hopefully you get the idea.
Good luck
Cheyenne
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Have you read or researched any? John Holt and John
Waldrof are excellent places to start. There is a web
site called radical unschooling. I can't remember the
web adress but you can google it or I am sure someone
else who knows it will post it for you.
I only have one child but I am a single mom making
less then $1,000 a month. I get no child support or
goverment assistiant. So I know all about having to
skimp, skip, borrow and second hand find. There is a
great book, can't remember the name of it either but
it's all about how to use the whole world as a
classroom. It has loads of frugal ideas :) There is
another book I found at Barnes and Noble
"Carschooling". It's great. It's full of ideas on how
to turn your car into a learning machine. ;>)
As far as "knowing" things in order to teach our
children.......I'm sure most of us would agree that
our job as an unschooling parent isn't so much to
teach them as it is to point them in the right
direction on how to get the answer. If you have no
idea admit it and offer to help them find the answer.
I believe it is more important to teach our kids how
to learn for themselves. Is it really that important
that they know all the capitals or that they could
find them on a map if they needed to. Silly example
but hopefully you get the idea.
Good luck
Cheyenne
�^<�SLoontv5 <LJeanne28@...> wrote:
>__________________________________
>
> Hi.I am a new member to this group.For many years
> Ihave struggled
> with the idea of unschooling.Ilove the idea of my
> children
> being "free".I have 5 children ages
> 7mths,2,7,10,12.We are using a
> curriculum at this time.
> I have always been afraid that I would let them down
> somehow or that
> they would not have the skills needed later in life.
> How can I help them all at once or pay for everyones
> different
> interests and trips ect. which go with unschooling?
> Most people that I read about who are unschoolers
> have one or maybe
> two children and were once schoolteachers or have
> degrees in
> something.I only have a GED, and I dont know or
> understand a lot.
> I have never met any unschoolers in person.I would
> love to hear any
> advice or comments.Thanks,
> Jeanne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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J. Stauffer
<<<<<I have always been afraid that I would let them down somehow or that
they would not have the skills needed later in life.>>>>
One thing to remember is that since you really have no idea what the future holds for each of your children, you don't know what skills will be needed later.
One may be a housewife, one may be an engineer, one may be an artist. Other than very rudimentary skills, such as reading, basic math, which way is North on a map, etc., your children will need different skills.
They will learn the basics regardless. Reading comes from tv guides, games, stories, etc.. Kids learn the basics of math once they start having spending money.
The other skills the kids will need will become apparent as their lives unfold and you will be right there to either help point the way or to point the way to someone who has the answers...or as often happens, the kids may find the answers on their own.
Julie--also mom of 5 kids
they would not have the skills needed later in life.>>>>
One thing to remember is that since you really have no idea what the future holds for each of your children, you don't know what skills will be needed later.
One may be a housewife, one may be an engineer, one may be an artist. Other than very rudimentary skills, such as reading, basic math, which way is North on a map, etc., your children will need different skills.
They will learn the basics regardless. Reading comes from tv guides, games, stories, etc.. Kids learn the basics of math once they start having spending money.
The other skills the kids will need will become apparent as their lives unfold and you will be right there to either help point the way or to point the way to someone who has the answers...or as often happens, the kids may find the answers on their own.
Julie--also mom of 5 kids
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From: cartoontv5
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Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 6:55 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] I need courage!
Hi.I am a new member to this group.For many years Ihave struggled
with the idea of unschooling.Ilove the idea of my children
being "free".I have 5 children ages 7mths,2,7,10,12.We are using a
curriculum at this time.
I have always been afraid that I would let them down somehow or that
they would not have the skills needed later in life.
How can I help them all at once or pay for everyones different
interests and trips ect. which go with unschooling?
Most people that I read about who are unschoolers have one or maybe
two children and were once schoolteachers or have degrees in
something.I only have a GED, and I dont know or understand a lot.
I have never met any unschoolers in person.I would love to hear any
advice or comments.Thanks,
Jeanne
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pam sorooshian
Once when John Holt was speaking to a school audience, describing his
views on the their structured curriculum, a student asked him, "But
surely there must be something important enough that everyone should
learn it?" He thought for a moment and replied, "To learn to say ‘I’m
sorry’, ‘I don’t know’, and ‘I was wrong’."
[anecdote related by Jan Hunt of "The Natural Child Project" in a
footnote to: "A Conversation with John Holt (1980)" Interviewer:
Marlene Bumgarner]
--pam
views on the their structured curriculum, a student asked him, "But
surely there must be something important enough that everyone should
learn it?" He thought for a moment and replied, "To learn to say ‘I’m
sorry’, ‘I don’t know’, and ‘I was wrong’."
[anecdote related by Jan Hunt of "The Natural Child Project" in a
footnote to: "A Conversation with John Holt (1980)" Interviewer:
Marlene Bumgarner]
--pam
On Dec 29, 2004, at 11:59 AM, J. Stauffer wrote:
> The other skills the kids will need will become apparent as their
> lives unfold and you will be right there to either help point the way
> or to point the way to someone who has the answers...or as often
> happens, the kids may find the answers on their own.
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In a message dated 12/28/2004 9:27:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJeanne28@... writes:
I have always been afraid that I would let them down somehow or that
they would not have the skills needed later in life.<<<<
Jeanne, that's *every* parent's fear! <g> But unschooling helps them
understand that they are fully capable of learning what they need when they need it.
That's *very* empowering!
Well, everyone struggles with finances----richer people often more than
poorer, sometimes, because they tie their money up in *things*! <g> Creativity is
helpful as an unschooling mom! <g>
Can you be specific? Maybe we can brainstorm.
something.I only have a GED,<<<<<
I have two "onlies"----My boys are eight years apart, so I have two singles!
<g> When I first started reading about unschooling, I thought everyone had
*multiple* kids----or GIRLS!! It all depends on which side of the fence you're
standing on!
Some people will come on and say that everyone seems to live in the city
with all the museums and zoos and opportunities; how do you unschool when you
live rurally? Someone in the city will ask how can you unschool without a farm
and animals and rows and rows of corn? Then there's the suburbite! She
complains that the city-dwellers have the great stuff and the farmers have the
great stuff, but what's SHE supposed to do???? <G>
Many of us are ex-teachers, many have no college degree at all! Some have
PhD's; some GED's. The only requirements to unschool are a love of learning, a
positive attitude, a willingness to look things up and do new things, passion,
and the trust of and respect of your children. (There may be a few more
that someone will throw in there!)
remarkable learning machines! You allow them to learn.
Where do you live? Any chance you could come to St Louis, MO in October?
There's an unschooling conference there. We'll have several inspirational
speakers and TONS of unschooling kids!
You may even have a few in your town. Give us a location; maybe we'll
surprise you and be in your backyard! <g>
~Kelly
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LJeanne28@... writes:
I have always been afraid that I would let them down somehow or that
they would not have the skills needed later in life.<<<<
Jeanne, that's *every* parent's fear! <g> But unschooling helps them
understand that they are fully capable of learning what they need when they need it.
That's *very* empowering!
>>>>>>How can I help them all at once or pay for everyones differentinterests and trips ect. which go with unschooling?<<<<<
Well, everyone struggles with finances----richer people often more than
poorer, sometimes, because they tie their money up in *things*! <g> Creativity is
helpful as an unschooling mom! <g>
Can you be specific? Maybe we can brainstorm.
>>>>>Most people that I read about who are unschoolers have one or maybetwo children and were once schoolteachers or have degrees in
something.I only have a GED,<<<<<
I have two "onlies"----My boys are eight years apart, so I have two singles!
<g> When I first started reading about unschooling, I thought everyone had
*multiple* kids----or GIRLS!! It all depends on which side of the fence you're
standing on!
Some people will come on and say that everyone seems to live in the city
with all the museums and zoos and opportunities; how do you unschool when you
live rurally? Someone in the city will ask how can you unschool without a farm
and animals and rows and rows of corn? Then there's the suburbite! She
complains that the city-dwellers have the great stuff and the farmers have the
great stuff, but what's SHE supposed to do???? <G>
Many of us are ex-teachers, many have no college degree at all! Some have
PhD's; some GED's. The only requirements to unschool are a love of learning, a
positive attitude, a willingness to look things up and do new things, passion,
and the trust of and respect of your children. (There may be a few more
that someone will throw in there!)
>>>>>and I dont know or understand a lot.<<<<I'm guessing you know and understand your children. And that they are
remarkable learning machines! You allow them to learn.
>>>>I have never met any unschoolers in person.I would love to hear anyadvice or comments.Thanks,<<<<<
Where do you live? Any chance you could come to St Louis, MO in October?
There's an unschooling conference there. We'll have several inspirational
speakers and TONS of unschooling kids!
You may even have a few in your town. Give us a location; maybe we'll
surprise you and be in your backyard! <g>
~Kelly
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Kathy Metzger
kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
speakers and TONS of unschooling kids!>>
Could you please post where I can find out additional information about this conference? I live in Illinois about 20 minutes from St. Louis.
Kathy
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>>Where do you live? Any chance you could come to St Louis, MO in October?There's an unschooling conference there. We'll have several inspirational
speakers and TONS of unschooling kids!>>
Could you please post where I can find out additional information about this conference? I live in Illinois about 20 minutes from St. Louis.
Kathy
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