When they want to be taught...
phred
I need some help...Jaiden(6) really wants to read, we read together
everyday. Mostly short kids/picture books. He's starting to pick up a
few sight words, but he doesn't think that this is enough. He wants
me to TEACH him to read. I don't know how.
He tends to be very structured, he loves scheduals and haveing
EVERYTHING maped out ahead of time, he's planned his next 15 birthday
parties and halloween costumes :)
So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? I've
looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at the
library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up good
ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys.
I'll be honest, I really don't like math and I have a hard time
thinking up "problems" for him. We don't have any extra money right
now, so I haven't gone and gotten him a workbook, any one know of a
good online place to get good math problems?
I have thought of checking out some basic homeschool websites, but
with free time being rare, I'd rather not spend what computer time I
have wadding through all the bs.
TIA
~Rebecca
everyday. Mostly short kids/picture books. He's starting to pick up a
few sight words, but he doesn't think that this is enough. He wants
me to TEACH him to read. I don't know how.
He tends to be very structured, he loves scheduals and haveing
EVERYTHING maped out ahead of time, he's planned his next 15 birthday
parties and halloween costumes :)
So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? I've
looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at the
library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up good
ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys.
I'll be honest, I really don't like math and I have a hard time
thinking up "problems" for him. We don't have any extra money right
now, so I haven't gone and gotten him a workbook, any one know of a
good online place to get good math problems?
I have thought of checking out some basic homeschool websites, but
with free time being rare, I'd rather not spend what computer time I
have wadding through all the bs.
TIA
~Rebecca
J. Stauffer
<<<<So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? >>>>
Reading and spelling are two different skills.
I would find books that have a lot of repetition like "Is your mama a llama?" and when you are reading, you can show him what a word is and then when you are reading and you get to that word, point, pause and let him say it.
As he knows more and more words, you will do more pointing and he will do more reading.
You can also play rhyming games.
Put the alphabet on little cards and let him play around changing the first letter of words to see what they say.
And of course, pay attention to his cues and if he wants to stop, by all means, stop.
Julie S.
Reading and spelling are two different skills.
I would find books that have a lot of repetition like "Is your mama a llama?" and when you are reading, you can show him what a word is and then when you are reading and you get to that word, point, pause and let him say it.
As he knows more and more words, you will do more pointing and he will do more reading.
You can also play rhyming games.
Put the alphabet on little cards and let him play around changing the first letter of words to see what they say.
And of course, pay attention to his cues and if he wants to stop, by all means, stop.
Julie S.
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From: phred
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 6:12 AM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] When they want to be taught...
I need some help...Jaiden(6) really wants to read, we read together
everyday. Mostly short kids/picture books. He's starting to pick up a
few sight words, but he doesn't think that this is enough. He wants
me to TEACH him to read. I don't know how.
He tends to be very structured, he loves scheduals and haveing
EVERYTHING maped out ahead of time, he's planned his next 15 birthday
parties and halloween costumes :)
So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? I've
looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at the
library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up good
ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys.
I'll be honest, I really don't like math and I have a hard time
thinking up "problems" for him. We don't have any extra money right
now, so I haven't gone and gotten him a workbook, any one know of a
good online place to get good math problems?
I have thought of checking out some basic homeschool websites, but
with free time being rare, I'd rather not spend what computer time I
have wadding through all the bs.
TIA
~Rebecca
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*** He wants me to TEACH him to read. I don't know how. ***
When Sam showed desire to read, he'd be all for sitting down with me for about half an hour and reading with him, helping him to read, and then he'd be up and off and living his life as joyfully as before the request to learn to read...
And we'd use games and post-it notes (play with letters and words) and we read all the time together...
But nothing really mattered because he just wasn't *ready* to read, even though the desire was there once in awhile.
He's 10 1/2 now and he's been *just* picking up reading connections lately.
It's happened slowly and over a long period of time...but he makes more and more connections every single day.
So, yes, there are things you can do...but I think it's also important to let him know that sometimes it doesn't happen just because you WANT it to happen...sometimes it still takes a while for it all to *click* and *connect*.
We have the *Bob* books and we love those.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0439145449/104-5752708-4457542?v=glance
We actually were able to make fun of them while reading their simple stories...and that helped Sam to enjoy them more! ;-)
And post-it notes are invaluable. I wrote letters on them and Sam played around with them, moving the letters around.
I also took his favorite words and wrote them on 3 X 5 cards, with illustrations surrounding the word. For example, Sam loves the word *Tsunami* so I wrote it on a card with a big wave behind it. Any word that he was drawn to, I would draw like this and hang them up. Just for him to *see*, not necessarily *learn right then how to read or spell it*.
Recently, I put a geometry school poster in the bathroom because I thought it was cool and something interesting to look at...Sam walked out of the bathroom one day saying over and over again, "Parallelogram...Parallelogram...Parallelogram..."
No one ever told him that's what that poster said.
***he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys.***
LOL! My Jake has always been drawn to challenging mind games...he loves things like *Mensa* cards for kids. We've checked out a lot of *mind-bending* books from the library, too, and he's enjoyed those.
Maybe those would be more challenging for your son instead of math *problems*. Because if he KNOWS how to do them, then they're going to be *math easy's*...and if he doesn't know how to do them, is he willing to have you show him how to do them?
With mind-bending books and cards and puzzles, he can stretch his mind within his own comfort level, and you could join him in coming up with answers together.
Just my opinion...
Be Well ~
Anne
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When Sam showed desire to read, he'd be all for sitting down with me for about half an hour and reading with him, helping him to read, and then he'd be up and off and living his life as joyfully as before the request to learn to read...
And we'd use games and post-it notes (play with letters and words) and we read all the time together...
But nothing really mattered because he just wasn't *ready* to read, even though the desire was there once in awhile.
He's 10 1/2 now and he's been *just* picking up reading connections lately.
It's happened slowly and over a long period of time...but he makes more and more connections every single day.
So, yes, there are things you can do...but I think it's also important to let him know that sometimes it doesn't happen just because you WANT it to happen...sometimes it still takes a while for it all to *click* and *connect*.
We have the *Bob* books and we love those.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0439145449/104-5752708-4457542?v=glance
We actually were able to make fun of them while reading their simple stories...and that helped Sam to enjoy them more! ;-)
And post-it notes are invaluable. I wrote letters on them and Sam played around with them, moving the letters around.
I also took his favorite words and wrote them on 3 X 5 cards, with illustrations surrounding the word. For example, Sam loves the word *Tsunami* so I wrote it on a card with a big wave behind it. Any word that he was drawn to, I would draw like this and hang them up. Just for him to *see*, not necessarily *learn right then how to read or spell it*.
Recently, I put a geometry school poster in the bathroom because I thought it was cool and something interesting to look at...Sam walked out of the bathroom one day saying over and over again, "Parallelogram...Parallelogram...Parallelogram..."
No one ever told him that's what that poster said.
***he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys.***
LOL! My Jake has always been drawn to challenging mind games...he loves things like *Mensa* cards for kids. We've checked out a lot of *mind-bending* books from the library, too, and he's enjoyed those.
Maybe those would be more challenging for your son instead of math *problems*. Because if he KNOWS how to do them, then they're going to be *math easy's*...and if he doesn't know how to do them, is he willing to have you show him how to do them?
With mind-bending books and cards and puzzles, he can stretch his mind within his own comfort level, and you could join him in coming up with answers together.
Just my opinion...
Be Well ~
Anne
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> We have the *Bob* books and we love those.There is a series of "Step Into Reading" books that have pictures instead of words for some of the words. So sentence might read "One day the (picture of the sun) was just waking up when the (picture of a rooster) decided that he didn't want to crow" You read with the child and point to the words as you read and they fill in the picture words. When my kids were wanting to know *how* to read I just started putting labels on everything. We had chairs, tables, refrigerator, floor, wall, door, window all labeled. I love sight words. They can figure out the rest later.
>
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0439145449/104-5752708-4457542?v=glance
>
> LOL! My Jake has always been drawn to challenging mind games...he loves things like *Mensa* cards for kids. We've checked out a lot of *mind-bending* books from the library, too, and he's enjoyed those.I second the idea of Mensa-like puzzles. There are all kinds of these available now. Games magazine is another favorite in our house. We also like to "dissect" optical illusions. All kinds of things that entertain the brain without feeling like you are "doing math."
>
Michelle
[email protected]
> So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? I'veI actually have one of these if you are interested in it. We never got very far into it and I don't believe that we wrote in the book. It might have a few crumpled pages and corners, but should be in good shape. Send me your address off-list and I'll send it to you.
> looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at the
> library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
>
Michelle - slowly eliminating her hoarded curriculum
pam sorooshian
On Oct 20, 2004, at 4:12 AM, phred wrote:
Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" is just AWFUL, in my
not-so-humble-opinion. Drudgery, boring, lifeless, one-size-fits-all,
and if I'd imposed that on my kids I cannot imagine how they'd have
become the voracious readers they are today.
Create a print-rich environment - in many more ways than just reading
together. But, do pick some books that he might pick up the reading in,
quickly, like Hop on Pop, so that he has a chance at it.
A whole little series of books by Patty Wolcott are funny, and have
lots of repetition and are rhythmic - my kids learned to recognize big
words, like "Marvelous" and that felt great to them. (Marvelous Mud
Washing Machine - our favorite, along with the Cake Book)
His own "Word Box." A cool box - you ask him, "What words do you want
to learn to read?" You write those words carefully on an index card. He
keeps his words in his box. When HE wants to practice his reading, he
pulls the box out and goes over the words, asking you if he forgets
any. It is okay if the words are dinosaur and alligator and umbrella.
They don't have to be "beginning" reading words.
Rhyming games - lots of them. We played in the car a lot - but you
could do it to satisfy his desire for his reading lessons. You say
"SAM" and he responds with "HAM" and then you say "CLAM" and he says
"SPAM" and so on - trying to go as long as you can. Start with the
short "a" sound and when you've exhausted all your ideas for that move
on to other short vowels sounds.
Learn the alphabet song with sounds instead of letter names. "Ah",
"Beh", and so on.
Magnetic letters on the refrigerator - there are some that have shapes
- like a farmer on a tractor - in two parts with "F A" on one part and
"R M" on the other half.
And so on -- there are a million ways to "teach reading" - but don't
take over from him, find ways to support his learning, not to impose it
on him.
<While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up good
ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys. >
This cracks me up. Rosie, not too long ago, got irritated with me
because I was explaining something to her that she'd asked about and
she wanted practice problems to try it out, but the ones I gave her
were too easy. She very strongly said, "Mom, please CHALLENGE me, just
CHALLENGE me, that's all I ask."
Roxana was here and heard her and said, "Hey, Mom, I bet you wish you
had THAT on tape for your math talks, huh?" <BEG>
If you google "math worksheets creation" I think you'll find sites that
do that. There is no shortage of them - I have to weed through them,
seems like, when I'm looking for math sites with something else besides
worksheets.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
> So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? I've"Games for Reading" by Peggy Kaye. Should be in the library. "How to
> looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at the
> library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
Teach Your Child to Read in 100 Easy Lessons" is just AWFUL, in my
not-so-humble-opinion. Drudgery, boring, lifeless, one-size-fits-all,
and if I'd imposed that on my kids I cannot imagine how they'd have
become the voracious readers they are today.
Create a print-rich environment - in many more ways than just reading
together. But, do pick some books that he might pick up the reading in,
quickly, like Hop on Pop, so that he has a chance at it.
A whole little series of books by Patty Wolcott are funny, and have
lots of repetition and are rhythmic - my kids learned to recognize big
words, like "Marvelous" and that felt great to them. (Marvelous Mud
Washing Machine - our favorite, along with the Cake Book)
His own "Word Box." A cool box - you ask him, "What words do you want
to learn to read?" You write those words carefully on an index card. He
keeps his words in his box. When HE wants to practice his reading, he
pulls the box out and goes over the words, asking you if he forgets
any. It is okay if the words are dinosaur and alligator and umbrella.
They don't have to be "beginning" reading words.
Rhyming games - lots of them. We played in the car a lot - but you
could do it to satisfy his desire for his reading lessons. You say
"SAM" and he responds with "HAM" and then you say "CLAM" and he says
"SPAM" and so on - trying to go as long as you can. Start with the
short "a" sound and when you've exhausted all your ideas for that move
on to other short vowels sounds.
Learn the alphabet song with sounds instead of letter names. "Ah",
"Beh", and so on.
Magnetic letters on the refrigerator - there are some that have shapes
- like a farmer on a tractor - in two parts with "F A" on one part and
"R M" on the other half.
And so on -- there are a million ways to "teach reading" - but don't
take over from him, find ways to support his learning, not to impose it
on him.
<While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up good
ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
math problems, not math easys. >
This cracks me up. Rosie, not too long ago, got irritated with me
because I was explaining something to her that she'd asked about and
she wanted practice problems to try it out, but the ones I gave her
were too easy. She very strongly said, "Mom, please CHALLENGE me, just
CHALLENGE me, that's all I ask."
Roxana was here and heard her and said, "Hey, Mom, I bet you wish you
had THAT on tape for your math talks, huh?" <BEG>
If you google "math worksheets creation" I think you'll find sites that
do that. There is no shortage of them - I have to weed through them,
seems like, when I'm looking for math sites with something else besides
worksheets.
-pam
National Home Education Network
<www.NHEN.org>
Serving the entire homeschooling community since 1999
through information, networking and public relations.
Robin Clevenger
--- In [email protected], "phred" <elfmama_2@y...>
wrote:
What I've done is just gotten a set of The Bob Books (you can find
them on Amazon.com and most libraries have mutiple sets) and started
working through those. Both of the kids enjoyed them for awhile then
lost interest. My oldest mostly taught himself to read the summer he
started playing with Pokemon cards and needed to know how to read the
cards.
which both of my kids also adore, for some reason :-)
http://www.schoolhousetech.com/products/basicfacts/overview.htm
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
wrote:
> I need some help...Jaiden(6) really wants to read, we read togethera
> everyday. Mostly short kids/picture books. He's starting to pick up
> few sight words, but he doesn't think that this is enough. He wantsI've
> me to TEACH him to read. I don't know how.
> So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...?
> looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book atthe
> library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?Both of my kids have, at times, asked me to help them with reading.
What I've done is just gotten a set of The Bob Books (you can find
them on Amazon.com and most libraries have mutiple sets) and started
working through those. Both of the kids enjoyed them for awhile then
lost interest. My oldest mostly taught himself to read the summer he
started playing with Pokemon cards and needed to know how to read the
cards.
>good
> While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
> him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up
> ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wantsThis site was recently mentioned for being good for math worksheets,
> math problems, not math easys.
>
> I'll be honest, I really don't like math and I have a hard time
> thinking up "problems" for him. We don't have any extra money right
> now, so I haven't gone and gotten him a workbook, any one know of a
> good online place to get good math problems?
which both of my kids also adore, for some reason :-)
http://www.schoolhousetech.com/products/basicfacts/overview.htm
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
Robin Clevenger
--- In [email protected], "J. Stauffer"
<jnjstau@d...> wrote:
One thing you could do would be to encourage writing. I think a lot
of kids come to reading through writing, which is the opposite way
that most schools teach it. I know both of my kids wrote fluently
before they could read much, they just asked me how to spell things.
After awhile of spelling the same words the same way (like "the"),
they began to recognize these words when they saw them on the page.
My kids both love to write, but can't really sustain it for very
long, so they often dictate their longer stories to me and then they
write/draw a cover page.
Also, I really love all the invented spelling that they come up with
when they're first starting. My son had a sign he made for the door
of his room that said "Konstwukchen Goen On" (Construction Going On).
That one was a keeper for sure!
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
<jnjstau@d...> wrote:
> <<<<So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spellinglists...? >>>>
One thing you could do would be to encourage writing. I think a lot
of kids come to reading through writing, which is the opposite way
that most schools teach it. I know both of my kids wrote fluently
before they could read much, they just asked me how to spell things.
After awhile of spelling the same words the same way (like "the"),
they began to recognize these words when they saw them on the page.
My kids both love to write, but can't really sustain it for very
long, so they often dictate their longer stories to me and then they
write/draw a cover page.
Also, I really love all the invented spelling that they come up with
when they're first starting. My son had a sign he made for the door
of his room that said "Konstwukchen Goen On" (Construction Going On).
That one was a keeper for sure!
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
Daniel MacIntyre
I feel really nervous suggesting this, but you said your child is very
strucured in his learning style, right?
I found this on a website a while ago. I never used it because
Zachary is NOT structured and this would just bore him, but it's free
and I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.
for the article in general
http://www.voxday.net/archive/2003/121503.html
for the slides:
http://www.voxday.net/dl/
Hope this helps!
Daniel
strucured in his learning style, right?
I found this on a website a while ago. I never used it because
Zachary is NOT structured and this would just bore him, but it's free
and I don't see any reason it wouldn't work.
for the article in general
http://www.voxday.net/archive/2003/121503.html
for the slides:
http://www.voxday.net/dl/
Hope this helps!
Daniel
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:23:14 -0000, Robin Clevenger <tri_mom@...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "phred" <elfmama_2@y...>
> wrote:
> > I need some help...Jaiden(6) really wants to read, we read together
> > everyday. Mostly short kids/picture books. He's starting to pick up
> a
> > few sight words, but he doesn't think that this is enough. He wants
> > me to TEACH him to read. I don't know how.
>
> > So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...?
> I've
> > looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at
> the
> > library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
>
> Both of my kids have, at times, asked me to help them with reading.
> What I've done is just gotten a set of The Bob Books (you can find
> them on Amazon.com and most libraries have mutiple sets) and started
> working through those. Both of the kids enjoyed them for awhile then
> lost interest. My oldest mostly taught himself to read the summer he
> started playing with Pokemon cards and needed to know how to read the
> cards.
>
>
> >
> > While i'm asking...Jaiden loves math, and everyday asks me to give
> > him a page of math problems. I spend 10-15min trying to think up
> good
> > ones, he's done with them in like 2 min and then tells me he wants
> > math problems, not math easys.
> >
> > I'll be honest, I really don't like math and I have a hard time
> > thinking up "problems" for him. We don't have any extra money right
> > now, so I haven't gone and gotten him a workbook, any one know of a
> > good online place to get good math problems?
>
> This site was recently mentioned for being good for math worksheets,
> which both of my kids also adore, for some reason :-)
>
> http://www.schoolhousetech.com/products/basicfacts/overview.htm
>
> Blue Skies,
> -Robin-
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
Rebecca DeLong
Hi Michelle,
I would love to give the book a try. I feel bad for Jaiden, he want's it sooo bad but is having a hard time with it, and I just don't quite know how to help him.
my address is, 200 W. Webster, Ferndale MI, 48220
Thanx a bunch :)
~Rebecca
wieldingwords@... wrote:
Michelle - slowly eliminating her hoarded curriculum
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I would love to give the book a try. I feel bad for Jaiden, he want's it sooo bad but is having a hard time with it, and I just don't quite know how to help him.
my address is, 200 W. Webster, Ferndale MI, 48220
Thanx a bunch :)
~Rebecca
wieldingwords@... wrote:
> So, how do I teach him to read? Do I give him spelling lists...? I'veI actually have one of these if you are interested in it. We never got very far into it and I don't believe that we wrote in the book. It might have a few crumpled pages and corners, but should be in good shape. Send me your address off-list and I'll send it to you.
> looked for that 'teach your child to read in 100 lessons' book at the
> library, it's never in. Anyone know of a good website, with ideas?
>
Michelle - slowly eliminating her hoarded curriculum
"If you couldn't find any weirdness, maybe we'll just have to make some!"
-Hobbes
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Syndi
Before I became deschooled myself I found tons of pages online with
math worksheets and different sites for learning to read. Just type
in learning or the dreaded word school.
syndi
math worksheets and different sites for learning to read. Just type
in learning or the dreaded word school.
syndi