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I was contacted to day by a mom in SC who wants to learn more about
unschooling. Her issue is that her family is Muslim. She's looking to connect with
other Muslim unschooling families. The only one I know is Asmaa---where are you?

If there's someone els willing to talk with her, I'll forward you her info.
Please let me know!

Thanks!

~Kelly


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Steven Cox

I met a woman named Asmaa today! Does she live in MA?

Leslie
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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 4:16 PM
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] looking for asmaa


I was contacted to day by a mom in SC who wants to learn more about
unschooling. Her issue is that her family is Muslim. She's looking to connect with
other Muslim unschooling families. The only one I know is Asmaa---where are you?

If there's someone els willing to talk with her, I'll forward you her info.
Please let me know!

Thanks!

~Kelly


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In a message dated 9/9/2004 5:21:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
slclsc@... writes:

I met a woman named Asmaa today! Does she live in MA?<<<

I have no idea. Is she a muslim unschooler? Does she frequent these e-lists?

~Kelly


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Steven Cox

Kelly,

Yes, she is muslim. I forwarded your message to someone who knows her better.

Leslie
Sharon, MA
In a message dated 9/9/2004 5:21:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
slclsc@... writes:

I met a woman named Asmaa today! Does she live in MA?<<<

I have no idea. Is she a muslim unschooler? Does she frequent these e-lists?

~Kelly


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Kelly,

Yes, she is muslim. I forwarded your message to someone who knows her
better. <<<

Thank you ! Thank you ! Thank you!

~Kelly


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Joan Labbe & Salvatore Genovese

Valerie,

I just finished your book and I really enjoyed it - it gave me such a great
perspective that I am walking around today feeling so energized and
re-focused on my children. Thank you!

I do have one question for you...in your book you say that Laurie "was
terrified of math at a young age". I am curious about that statement and
wondering if someone gave her a concept of math? If she was unschooled and
math was just a part of her life, the statement sort of confuses me. I'm
wondering about the fear and what your perception is of where it came from?
Makes sense when she is older and then confronted with "this is math to get
into college" then she'd have a definition of it, but I'm confused about the
'young age' part...

Thanks!

Joan

************************
"I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery than
live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it." ... Harry
Emerson Fosdick

Valerie

Thank YOU, Joan. Laurie was terrified of math because "everyone"
asked "What about math?" Even her schooled peers would tell her at
every opportunity that she was stupid for not knowing math.

Just imagine telling people in the early 80's that you
aren't "teaching" traditional subjects to your daughter. Laurie
heard a million times, "But what about math?" At the homeschool
meeting where I spoke, I was shot down in my speaking by the VERY
hostile question "You mean you aren't teaching her MATH?" She began
to think of math as some huge obstacle that she had to conquer,
regardless of how many times I told her that she'd learn it when SHE
needed it. But remember, I was the ONLY person in her life that
believed she would learn what she needed when she needed it;
everyone else pushed at each opportunity. She hated being around
certain people because it never failed that they would ask her a
math question. I stopped them each time, but they were agonizingly
persistent. After a few times, I broke off our friendship; they
ignored my request to stop testing her.

The math question created self-doubt for her and it turned into a
math phobia for awhile. She asked me a few times to sit at the table
and Teach her some math, but after only a few minutes, she was angry
and put a halt to it. I never pushed of course. She pretty much
convinced herself that she Couldn't learn math. Imagine how many
times that happens with schooled children!

Once she let go of the fear and basically said "F*** it! I have
other things to do," she forgot all about "learning" math and just
started enjoying games where math was required to get to the next
level. Once she got to college math classes, she was more secure
about who she was, whether or not she was a "math" person, and it
made the learning just happen. After a few remedial classes, college
algebra was easy for her. I reverted back to my mindset from
highschool where my dad said things like, "I don't understand WHY
you can't get algebra; you were reading U.S.News and World Report at
age 5." Huh? Pressure from my looooooong ago past concerning Algebra
created a mind block for me 25+ years later and I dropped the class.

That's why I say she feared math. She'd have nightmares about it and
fret over being math illiterate forever. Now she wants to be a
statistician. :-)

love, Valerie
www.ubpub.com

--- In [email protected], "Joan Labbe & Salvatore
Genovese" <salgenovese@w...> wrote:
> Valerie,
>
> I just finished your book and I really enjoyed it - it gave me
such a great
> perspective that I am walking around today feeling so energized and
> re-focused on my children. Thank you!
>
> I do have one question for you...in your book you say that
Laurie "was
> terrified of math at a young age". I am curious about that
statement and
> wondering if someone gave her a concept of math? If she was
unschooled and
> math was just a part of her life, the statement sort of confuses
me. I'm
> wondering about the fear and what your perception is of where it
came from?
> Makes sense when she is older and then confronted with "this is
math to get
> into college" then she'd have a definition of it, but I'm confused
about the
> 'young age' part...
>
> Thanks!
>
> Joan

Joan Labbe & Salvatore Genovese

Wow, Valerie,

Thanks for sharing that. It just amazes me that in the social environment
you both had to live with you stayed so true to yourselves and found ways to
hear yourselves over the din of others. What an inspiration for me!

Joan

************************
"I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery than
live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it." ... Harry
Emerson Fosdick


-----Original Message-----
From: Valerie [mailto:valerie@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2004 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Question about your book, Valerie


Thank YOU, Joan. Laurie was terrified of math because "everyone"
asked "What about math?" Even her schooled peers would tell her at
every opportunity that she was stupid for not knowing math.