Sherri-Lee Pressman

Hi everyone,



Well yesterday on another list I am on (local to me) someone forwarded
another email from a radio person looking for people who were or thinking of
homeschooling kindergarten aged children. So I sent her an email and said I
would talk to her and my dd was 4.



So she called today and we talked for about 40 minutes. She seemed very open
minded and curious about how I came to the decision to homeschool. Well
eventually she started asking about our day and curriculums, because of
course everyone else who she had talked to for this article all use
curriculums. So it came out that I was not going to use one and that this
relaxed way of doing thing was called unschooling and that is what we were
doing, letting our dd chose what she wanted to learn and when and how etc.
So she is fascinated by this and now has asked to come to my home and meet
me and my dh and dd and spend some time with us! YIKES what have I done!



She asked to come to a play group thingy we are doing weekly and I explained
to her that most of the families in that weren't even homeschoolers, let
alone unschoolers and that she wouldn't find all the moms hammering
teachable moments down their kids throats. That this was just a play group
and we chatted about what ever. So ok she gave up that idea. but of course
she doesn't "get it" and is looking to see how I teach Hannah anything. So I
tried to explain that that didn't happen a lot, I mean for no other reason
than she is only 4 and even if I wasn't into unschooling I don't believe in
structured learning at this early age.



So what do I tell her. where do I take this interview. what points do I
make. how should I present it? Any suggestions? Hints? Support?



How did I get myself into this!?



One thing I did notice was that I didn't sound as amateurish about this as I
felt. You people are rubbing off on me and I am learning so much from you
all. She asked me a bizarre question "ok what about when she is older and in
a job and encounters a bully how will she know how to handle that?" I was a
little surprised. My answer was "you are assuming that people learn how to
handle a bully by being bullied. That isn't a fair assumption. She is
learning values and morals and personal boundaries every day in her life
right now, that will keep her from being a victim to a bully, not being
bullied. She won't learn those things in school because the way it works is
not to respect the individual but to respect conformity." I thought it was a
good answer. Then I used my own experiences in public school as an example -
I am no more prepared today to deal with someone shoving me down a flight of
stairs just because some girl did it to me in high school. I still wouldn't
know how to deal with it now except to call the police. So thank you for all
the teaching you are doing, I am growing and learning and I discovered
yesterday as I watched Hannah devour information on a Dr. Seuss computer
game, that I am actually enjoying being a parent for the very first time in
her entire life. That is because of this list and all I am learning, THANK
YOU ALL!



Sherri-Lee

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Fetteroll

on 8/5/04 2:31 AM, Sherri-Lee Pressman at sherri--lee@... wrote:

> she doesn't "get it" and is looking to see how I teach Hannah anything.

Maybe talk about how 1 yos don't need to be prepared to be 2 yos. Just being
a 1 yo is how they become 2 yos. And being 3 is how they become 4. But
kindergarten and kindergarten curriculums don't help them be 5 or prepare
them to be 6. The curriculums are preparation for school. And that isn't the
same. Unschooling is about living in the world and learning by doing.
Schooling is about being put in a sterile artificial world and being told
about the real world. You don't want to prepare your child for that!

You can talk about how learning is a side effect of doing. That kids don't
consciously learn English, for instance. They just use English to get
something they want and get better at English as a side effect of using it.
Not because they want to get better at English but because they want to get
better at getting what they want! :-)

And that extends into everything they want to do and are interested in.
Writing and math and history and science are all tools that they'll use (and
get better at as a side effect) to do what interests them.

Send her to Unschooling.com message boards for background research.

My conference talk 2 years ago was about tools and why school think is so
attractive and why it's all an illusion.

Why You Can't Let Go
http://sandradodd.com/joyce/talk

And this article that Sandra Dodd dredged up from the internet is about why
schools don't work the way parents think they work.

When Does Indpendence Arrive?
http://www.unschooling.com/library/essays/independence.shtml

Joyce

[email protected]

In a message dated 8/5/2004 3:19:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

So what do I tell her. where do I take this interview. what points do I
make. how should I present it? Any suggestions? Hints? Support?




<<<

http//:www.liveandlearnconference.org I'd tell you to come to the
conference for a real eye-opener! <G>

And I think you did a great job answering the bully question!

>>>>I discovered
yesterday as I watched Hannah devour information on a Dr. Seuss computer
game, that I am actually enjoying being a parent for the very first time in
her entire life. That is because of this list and all I am learning, THANK
YOU ALL!<<<<<

COOL!

~Kelly


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[email protected]

In a message dated 8/5/2004 2:19:02 AM Central Standard Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

My answer was "you are assuming that people learn how to
handle a bully by being bullied. That isn't a fair assumption. She is
learning values and morals and personal boundaries every day in her life
right now, that will keep her from being a victim to a bully, not being
bullied. She won't learn those things in school because the way it works is
not to respect the individual but to respect conformity." I thought it was a
good answer. Then I used my own experiences in public school as an example -
I am no more prepared today to deal with someone shoving me down a flight of
stairs just because some girl did it to me in high school. I still wouldn't
know how to deal with it now except to call the police.


~~~

GREAT answer! :)

I did a public TV interview last year. The host asked me if I had to be a
certified teacher to be a homeschooler. When I said no she asked why not. My
answer was that a certified teacher is someone who is trained and hired to
educate large groups of children who are not their own. I don't consider
myself a teacher. The education my children acquire while they are with me falls
under my role as parent, as it has since recorded history.

Or something like that. :) It's good to think of your answers to common
questions ahead of time. I didn't prepare for that one, but I've been doing
this so long I had thought about it before. Good on you for being a newbie
with a brain! ;)

Karen


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Sherri-Lee Pressman

Hi Kelly,



I doubt she would get to come to the conference plus I think the article is
supposed to be on the radio next week, will have to find out. It is our
national radio station btw so this is a big deal! Hopefully I can use the
time to educate some people, so want to be sure that my answers show
unschooling in the very best light.



Sherri-Lee



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From: kbcdlovejo@... [mailto:kbcdlovejo@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 5:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] radio interview




In a message dated 8/5/2004 3:19:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

So what do I tell her. where do I take this interview. what points do I
make. how should I present it? Any suggestions? Hints? Support?




<<<

http//:www.liveandlearnconference.org I'd tell you to come to the
conference for a real eye-opener! <G>

And I think you did a great job answering the bully question!

>>>>I discovered
yesterday as I watched Hannah devour information on a Dr. Seuss computer
game, that I am actually enjoying being a parent for the very first time in
her entire life. That is because of this list and all I am learning, THANK
YOU ALL!<<<<<

COOL!

~Kelly


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Sherri-Lee Pressman

Hi thanks for this, very good points, I will read the articles and remember
this for the next stage in this adventure,



Sherri-Lee



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From: Fetteroll [mailto:fetteroll@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 3:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] radio interview



on 8/5/04 2:31 AM, Sherri-Lee Pressman at sherri--lee@... wrote:

> she doesn't "get it" and is looking to see how I teach Hannah anything.

Maybe talk about how 1 yos don't need to be prepared to be 2 yos. Just being
a 1 yo is how they become 2 yos. And being 3 is how they become 4. But
kindergarten and kindergarten curriculums don't help them be 5 or prepare
them to be 6. The curriculums are preparation for school. And that isn't the
same. Unschooling is about living in the world and learning by doing.
Schooling is about being put in a sterile artificial world and being told
about the real world. You don't want to prepare your child for that!

You can talk about how learning is a side effect of doing. That kids don't
consciously learn English, for instance. They just use English to get
something they want and get better at English as a side effect of using it.
Not because they want to get better at English but because they want to get
better at getting what they want! :-)

And that extends into everything they want to do and are interested in.
Writing and math and history and science are all tools that they'll use (and
get better at as a side effect) to do what interests them.

Send her to Unschooling.com message boards for background research.

My conference talk 2 years ago was about tools and why school think is so
attractive and why it's all an illusion.

Why You Can't Let Go
http://sandradodd.com/joyce/talk

And this article that Sandra Dodd dredged up from the internet is about why
schools don't work the way parents think they work.

When Does Indpendence Arrive?
http://www.unschooling.com/library/essays/independence.shtml

Joyce






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Sherri-Lee Pressman

Thanks for the suggestions. This whole experience has been so good for me
because I don't want to misspeak or embarrass myself, so I am really having
to think about how I feel about all this unschooling and about my parenting
and in doing so it is becoming so much more concrete for me.



Sherri-Lee



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Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2004 6:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] radio interview




In a message dated 8/5/2004 2:19:02 AM Central Standard Time,
sherri--lee@... writes:

My answer was "you are assuming that people learn how to
handle a bully by being bullied. That isn't a fair assumption. She is
learning values and morals and personal boundaries every day in her life
right now, that will keep her from being a victim to a bully, not being
bullied. She won't learn those things in school because the way it works is
not to respect the individual but to respect conformity." I thought it was
a
good answer. Then I used my own experiences in public school as an example
-
I am no more prepared today to deal with someone shoving me down a flight
of
stairs just because some girl did it to me in high school. I still wouldn't
know how to deal with it now except to call the police.


~~~

GREAT answer! :)

I did a public TV interview last year. The host asked me if I had to be a
certified teacher to be a homeschooler. When I said no she asked why not.
My
answer was that a certified teacher is someone who is trained and hired to
educate large groups of children who are not their own. I don't consider
myself a teacher. The education my children acquire while they are with me
falls
under my role as parent, as it has since recorded history.

Or something like that. :) It's good to think of your answers to common
questions ahead of time. I didn't prepare for that one, but I've been
doing
this so long I had thought about it before. Good on you for being a newbie

with a brain! ;)

Karen


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