S Drag-teine

"Radical Unschooling is and what it entails."

I feel like I am asking a loaded question here but what is the difference
from unschooling to radical unschooling? How do you know you are one? Are
there some lists I can lurk on?

Shannon
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesa McMahon-Lowe
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:01 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] some questions

Ren,

Sorry if it sounded weird the way I wrote it... the thing is, is that I do
belong to other Radical Homeschooling lists and they will come down very
hard on certain things. This list because it helps to redirect "school"
thinking and coercive parenting in a way that is more forgiving, is not seen
as a radical unschooling list. Many newbies may not even know what Radical
Unschooling is and what it entails.

And, like you, there are many many times where I don't respond when I want
to and/or rewrite my replies because I keep the "basics" in
unschoolingbasics in mind. I realize that there are many who come here who
don't even have a grasp on what unschooling is at all. I most certainly don
t want to scare anyone away by getting radical on them until they seek it.

Lesa



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From: Ren Allen
Date: 02/27/06 19:34:10
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] some questions

"well, being that this isn't a radical unschooling list, you won't get
a lot of negative reaction to your need to control your children in
any way."

I'm not sure what led to this impression, since most of the regulars
and both moderators and owners are radical unschoolers!!:)
We try to gently point people towards radical unschooling since it IS
a beginners list. I bite my tongue a lot when I read some
posts...I'll admit. There are a lot of posts I just don't hit the
"send" button on!!

In the list description it says "... this is a place for you to
discuss,question, ponder and become deeply familiar with natural
learning and how it affects our ENTIRE lives. From parenting issues to
learning from the whole wide world and beyond...."

We're here to explode the myths about traditional parenting, we're
here to tell you that you CAN give your child freedom to choose and
they will be fine, we're here to say that controlling food,
controlling tv/video games etc... is NOT going to help unschooling unfold.

It's up to each person what they use and don't use here. Nobody is
here to tell you how to run your household, just offer up useful
advice that could potentially be lifechanging.
I think every step closer to unschooling is a step closer to better
relationships and more joyful/peaceful households...so it's all good.:)

Ren
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Joanne

Unschooling means not doing school at home.
Radical unschooling means applying those same principles (trusting
your children ) to other areas of their life.

I unschool all my children. We don't do anything that resembles
school.

As far as RU....I'm getting closer and closer every day with my
daughter Jacqueline....I'm just starting to apply some of the trust
with my daughter Shawna....and Cimion, well, he's about as far from
RU as a child can be.

I'm sure others will post a better, maybe more in depth
explaination.


~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (7), Shawna (10) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 30, 2003
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/







--- In [email protected], "S Drag-teine"
<dragteine@...> wrote:
>
> "Radical Unschooling is and what it entails."
>
> I feel like I am asking a loaded question here but what is the
difference
> from unschooling to radical unschooling? How do you know you are
one? Are
> there some lists I can lurk on?
>
> Shannon
> Melaleuca Customer
>
> Join our club and swap paperback books for FREE - PaperBackSwap.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesa
McMahon-Lowe
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] some questions
>
> Ren,
>
> Sorry if it sounded weird the way I wrote it... the thing is, is
that I do
> belong to other Radical Homeschooling lists and they will come
down very
> hard on certain things. This list because it helps to
redirect "school"
> thinking and coercive parenting in a way that is more forgiving,
is not seen
> as a radical unschooling list. Many newbies may not even know
what Radical
> Unschooling is and what it entails.
>
> And, like you, there are many many times where I don't respond
when I want
> to and/or rewrite my replies because I keep the "basics" in
> unschoolingbasics in mind. I realize that there are many who come
here who
> don't even have a grasp on what unschooling is at all. I most
certainly don
> t want to scare anyone away by getting radical on them until they
seek it.
>
> Lesa
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Ren Allen
> Date: 02/27/06 19:34:10
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] some questions
>
> "well, being that this isn't a radical unschooling list, you won't
get
> a lot of negative reaction to your need to control your children in
> any way."
>
> I'm not sure what led to this impression, since most of the
regulars
> and both moderators and owners are radical unschoolers!!:)
> We try to gently point people towards radical unschooling since it
IS
> a beginners list. I bite my tongue a lot when I read some
> posts...I'll admit. There are a lot of posts I just don't hit the
> "send" button on!!
>
> In the list description it says "... this is a place for you to
> discuss,question, ponder and become deeply familiar with natural
> learning and how it affects our ENTIRE lives. From parenting
issues to
> learning from the whole wide world and beyond...."
>
> We're here to explode the myths about traditional parenting, we're
> here to tell you that you CAN give your child freedom to choose and
> they will be fine, we're here to say that controlling food,
> controlling tv/video games etc... is NOT going to help unschooling
unfold.
>
> It's up to each person what they use and don't use here. Nobody is
> here to tell you how to run your household, just offer up useful
> advice that could potentially be lifechanging.
> I think every step closer to unschooling is a step closer to better
> relationships and more joyful/peaceful households...so it's all
good.:)
>
> Ren
> learninginfreedom.com
>
>
>
>
>
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S Drag-teine

We don't do school either - we do occasionally use schooly things (some
educational software like Putt Putt and Science House) because DS has asked
for them but if he doesn't use them it isn't a big deal. He gets what he
gets from it, plays with it, asks me to play with him that is what we do...

Some times I suggest things like he got this slimy ooze stuff around
December and it eventually dried out. He started asking for more and I said
well I have this recipe that might make something like what you had - want
to try it? He asked if he could make it any color he wanted and I said of
course. We even went out and bought more food dye color so he had more
options. When he wants to make more - he asks me to help because he isn't
comfortable yet making it by himself but when he makes it I just do what he
wants. Like splitting it into four bowls last time so he could make four
different colors even though when all said and done he mixed them together
and got brown ooze - EWW! LOL This next time he wants to make yellow ooze
and blue ooze to see what happens when he mixes them.

When it comes to food - he pretty much gets to pick what he wants and eats
when he wants at least when it is just us. If his father is home he doesn't
want to cook more then one meal or let him eat while he is making dinner.

Bedtime is also fairly free. He generally goes to bed when the last adult
goes to bed.

I think as he gains full independence and do more for himself, I think he
will have more freedom. I mean we let him do anything he wants to try doing
on his own and we help him with anything he asks us to help him do.
Sometimes though I think we do too much for him - still I don't make a big
deal about it - he will do for himself when he is ready to do it, right?

What is the next step to become closer to becoming a radical unschooler?

Shannon
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joanne
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 5:30 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [unschoolingbasics] Re: Radical Unschooling was some questions

Unschooling means not doing school at home.
Radical unschooling means applying those same principles (trusting
your children ) to other areas of their life.

I unschool all my children. We don't do anything that resembles
school.

As far as RU....I'm getting closer and closer every day with my
daughter Jacqueline....I'm just starting to apply some of the trust
with my daughter Shawna....and Cimion, well, he's about as far from
RU as a child can be.

I'm sure others will post a better, maybe more in depth
explaination.


~ Joanne ~
Mom to Jacqueline (7), Shawna (10) & Cimion (13)
Adopted into our hearts October 30, 2003
http://anunschoolinglife.blogspot.com/







--- In [email protected], "S Drag-teine"
<dragteine@...> wrote:
>
> "Radical Unschooling is and what it entails."
>
> I feel like I am asking a loaded question here but what is the
difference
> from unschooling to radical unschooling? How do you know you are
one? Are
> there some lists I can lurk on?
>
> Shannon
> Melaleuca Customer
>
> Join our club and swap paperback books for FREE - PaperBackSwap.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lesa
McMahon-Lowe
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 12:01 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [unschoolingbasics] some questions
>
> Ren,
>
> Sorry if it sounded weird the way I wrote it... the thing is, is
that I do
> belong to other Radical Homeschooling lists and they will come
down very
> hard on certain things. This list because it helps to
redirect "school"
> thinking and coercive parenting in a way that is more forgiving,
is not seen
> as a radical unschooling list. Many newbies may not even know
what Radical
> Unschooling is and what it entails.
>
> And, like you, there are many many times where I don't respond
when I want
> to and/or rewrite my replies because I keep the "basics" in
> unschoolingbasics in mind. I realize that there are many who come
here who
> don't even have a grasp on what unschooling is at all. I most
certainly don
> t want to scare anyone away by getting radical on them until they
seek it.
>
> Lesa
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Ren Allen
> Date: 02/27/06 19:34:10
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [unschoolingbasics] some questions
>
> "well, being that this isn't a radical unschooling list, you won't
get
> a lot of negative reaction to your need to control your children in
> any way."
>
> I'm not sure what led to this impression, since most of the
regulars
> and both moderators and owners are radical unschoolers!!:)
> We try to gently point people towards radical unschooling since it
IS
> a beginners list. I bite my tongue a lot when I read some
> posts...I'll admit. There are a lot of posts I just don't hit the
> "send" button on!!
>
> In the list description it says "... this is a place for you to
> discuss,question, ponder and become deeply familiar with natural
> learning and how it affects our ENTIRE lives. From parenting
issues to
> learning from the whole wide world and beyond...."
>
> We're here to explode the myths about traditional parenting, we're
> here to tell you that you CAN give your child freedom to choose and
> they will be fine, we're here to say that controlling food,
> controlling tv/video games etc... is NOT going to help unschooling
unfold.
>
> It's up to each person what they use and don't use here. Nobody is
> here to tell you how to run your household, just offer up useful
> advice that could potentially be lifechanging.
> I think every step closer to unschooling is a step closer to better
> relationships and more joyful/peaceful households...so it's all
good.:)
>
> Ren
> learninginfreedom.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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education Home
> school education
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>
>
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>
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