eriksmama2001

or "Those things are not available today" (for some toy that is put
up).>>>

Robyn could you expound on this. It seems to be arbitrary limit
setting. Perhaps the context would change the impression.

The concept of rules as opposed to principles at its heart seems to
be one of locus of control. Rules are other determined. Principles
are collaboratively utilized.

Erik doesn't actually know the word "rules" other than when we have
read a sign somewhere and we have the choice to be present (like a
restaurant or other establishment) if we comply with their rules
(shoes required, kitchen off limits, no dogs allowed, etc.).

Principles have reasons for which one chooses to conduct oneself.
Rules have reasons for which others desire us to conduct ourselves.

Pat

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In a message dated 9/25/2004 1:48:35 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
scubamama@... writes:
Principles have reasons for which one chooses to conduct oneself.
Rules have reasons for which others desire us to conduct ourselves.
==========

Really nice description!

Sandra


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Robyn Coburn

<<<or "Those things are not available today" (for some toy that is put
up).>>>

Robyn could you expound on this. It seems to be arbitrary limit
setting. Perhaps the context would change the impression. >>>>

If Jayn has some toys or dvd's that for some reason of her own she does not
want to share that day, I put them out of sight. Sometimes the visitor
remembers the item and asks for it so I say something like the above
statement, rather than saying "Jayn doesn't want you to use that" or
anything unkind. The principle at work is Jayn's choice of ownership, and
not forcing sharing. Believe me, we have enough stuff in our house that no
visitor would be completely bereft of any interesting toys just because a
couple have been designated "special" that day.

I no longer feel any need to query Jayn as to her reasons behind wanting
things put up, although I am sometimes surprised by her becoming unusually
possessive of certain items. It could look arbitrary to a third party I
suppose, but I know that Jayn has a real reason in her mind for wanting to
separate something from general usage. I follow her lead.

Robyn L. Coburn

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> Principles have reasons for which one chooses to conduct oneself.
> Rules have reasons for which others desire us to conduct ourselves.

I think I agree with your distinction, but I also think that
according to your definition there is a place for both rules *and*
principles. Principles work great within our family because of the
kind of relationship we have with each other, but when our house is
full of other people's children I have no problem having "rules" for
those children, especially if those rules protect our property and
ensure my own childrens' peace of mind. Living by principle seems
to depend greatly on how much you care about the people your
decisions will impact, and as much as neighborhood children may have
a good time at our house I can't say they necessarily care about how
their actions will affect our home and family. Today an 8yo
neighbor was here playing with my children, and while I was busy
downstairs he basically trashed my 5yo's bedroom and toy collection
(my 5yo wasn't even here). He'll certainly be welcome back again,
but the next time I'll make sure that he knows our "rule" is to have
permission to enter someone's bedroom and use their things.

Patti

eriksmama2001

Thank you for the clarification. I thought the toys were unavailable
to Jayn by you. Not that she determined their availability for
others. Children are certainly possessive of some things and don't
have to share them. Just as we are possessive of some things and we
don't have to share them.

Pat

--- In [email protected], "Robyn Coburn"
<dezigna@c...> wrote:
> <<<or "Those things are not available today" (for some toy that is
put
> up).>>>
>
> Robyn could you expound on this. It seems to be arbitrary limit
> setting. Perhaps the context would change the impression. >>>>
>
> If Jayn has some toys or dvd's that for some reason of her own she
does not
> want to share that day, I put them out of sight. Sometimes the
visitor
> remembers the item and asks for it so I say something like the above
> statement, rather than saying "Jayn doesn't want you to use that" or
> anything unkind. The principle at work is Jayn's choice of
ownership, and
> not forcing sharing. Believe me, we have enough stuff in our house
that no
> visitor would be completely bereft of any interesting toys just
because a
> couple have been designated "special" that day.
>
> I no longer feel any need to query Jayn as to her reasons behind
wanting
> things put up, although I am sometimes surprised by her becoming
unusually
> possessive of certain items. It could look arbitrary to a third
party I
> suppose, but I know that Jayn has a real reason in her mind for
wanting to
> separate something from general usage. I follow her lead.
>
> Robyn L. Coburn
>
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Danielle Conger

Patti wrote: Principles work great within our family because of the
kind of relationship we have with each other, but when our house is
full of other people's children I have no problem having "rules" for
those children, especially if those rules protect our property and
ensure my own childrens' peace of mind. Living by principle seems
to depend greatly on how much you care about the people your
decisions will impact, and as much as neighborhood children may have
a good time at our house I can't say they necessarily care about how
their actions will affect our home and family.
===========

I think the biggest issue is that most kids are so rule-bound that they have a very hard time operating outside rules without "going crazy." I have been holding a 4-H Rock Hounds club at my home so the kids could use the climbing wall, and the lack of respect once they got out of their parents sight was astounding. Now, all of these kids are homeschooled, but those who acted really badly, were children from very religious, school-at-home families. Without fail, I watched their behavior disintigrate as soon as their moms were somewhere else.

Well, I just let my group know that I was "burned out" and would not be having any more meetings at my house. We'll just be doing field trips from now on, thank you very much.

<>--Danielle

http://www.danielleconger.com/Homeschool/Welcomehome.html

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In a message dated 9/26/04 6:29:07 PM, danielle.conger@... writes:

<< I think the biggest issue is that most kids are so rule-bound that they
have a very hard time operating outside rules without "going crazy." >>

Yes, I've had some of those kids at my house.
And the prize-winning WORST batch had an army captain father, a "don't touch
me you'll muss the nails" mother, and they were required to say "yes sir" and
"no ma'am" to anything that moved. But when they got to my house they just
exploded into a freedom frenzy that was dangerous for our stuff and our pets!
And "try not to go crazy" wasn't informational for them. They were too used
to precise guidelines about each object, whether or not it could be touched,
picked up, carried to another place, or what. "Use your own judgment" wasn't a
"rule" they could begin to understand. They didnt have any judgment beyond
judging whether their parents were really gone and whether the adult left in
charge was likely to tattle on them (which would have mean spankings groundings
and forced apologies and not being able to come back to our house).

Sandra

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In a message dated 9/27/2004 10:43:36 AM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

And the prize-winning WORST batch had an army captain father, a "don't touch
me you'll muss the nails" mother, and they were required to say "yes sir"
and
"no ma'am" to anything that moved.


~~~

There was a horribly named show in ABC last night, called "Wife Swap". It
was on after Extreme Makeover: Home Edition, which always moves me to tears,
so I watch it. I thought I would search for something else when Wife Swap
came on, but they pulled me in. It's where two families switch mothers for a
couple of weeks to see what happens.

The one mom was the perfectionist mother who cleaned her house for 5 hours
EVERY day. The other mom, well, she was absolutely GREAT, until she lost it
at the end and said she hated the other mom. I kept expecting her to say that
her kids don't go to school, that they're unschoolers. I couldn't tell what
the school situation was, though. She didn't clean, she didn't cook (the
dad it all). She let her kids do whatever they wanted and they had fun with
her and there were always extra kids there, playing guitar and everything else.
They also had 25 pets, including groundhogs and a kangaroo and birds and
cats and lots of other things. Most of the pets had the run of the house, and
so you can imagine.

Some of the comments that the teenage boys made were VERY telling, and it
was such an example of respectful parenting (on the one unschooly-ish mom's
part).

The teenager from the perfectionist's mom kept saying, "We never talk." "We
spend time alone in seperate parts of the house." The woman had put lists
all over the house about what the other mom was supposed to do (including
cleaning the house 5 hours a day), and this boy had written on the list on his
door "Get me a cute kitten." So, of course, the other mom went right out and
got the boy a cat!

The fun mom's teenager said, "You made all these changes without consulting
me. I'm not fine with this." And, "These animals are part of our family.
You can't get rid of them."

All the perfectionist mom did for the other family is clean the house AND
she got them a dining table so they could have dinner together. (Besides
putting 22 of the pets with a sitter for a couple of weeks, without asking.) She
insulted the father and told him he wasn't a parent, but a "friend" to their
kids. She made him put the 2 yo to bed at 8:00 p.m., and of course she
wasn't sleepy and cried her eyes out. To his credit he let her out of the bed and
that didn't happen again.

By the end of the show, the uptight family was having food fights in the
kitchen with the fun mom, and the dad, who had been required to play his jazz
guitar with headphones on because his wife always insisted on quiet, got up in a
restuarant and played his guitar with the band.

That woman was SUCH a great influence on the uptight family. If she's not
an unschooler, she should be.

Karen



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[email protected]

In a message dated 9/27/04 10:51:56 AM, tuckervill2@... writes:

<<
By the end of the show, the uptight family was having food fights in the
kitchen with the fun mom, and the dad, who had been required to play his jazz

guitar with headphones on because his wife always insisted on quiet, got up
in a
restuarant and played his guitar with the band. >>

And the mom who had been so uptight said that she had loosened up a lot, she
was letting her older son have friends over whenever he wanted to and they
kept the cat. She said she was surprised at how much she loved that cat. <g>

Holly blasted in where I was watching Henry V (one of my comfort background
movies) while I was doing other stuff and told me I really needed to watch the
rest of that show. I guess we watched the second half. Marty came along and
watched too in a bit. He said he couldn't imagine, if we were on that show
and a rules-mom came and told him he HAD to clean his room or something. He
would just say "NO I don't!" he said. (And he funny thing is Marty had been
cleaning his room, deep-closet-sort level, when Holly rushed down and changed the
channel.)

After that was over they talked about it some more, and I put Henry V back
on, and when it ended, I looked at all the DVDs that were in the den, and wanted
something I didn't really have to pay attention to, so I put in The Complete
Works of William Shakespear, which is comedy. Both Holly and Marty were
still nearby and when they heard the distinctive intro music, they came and sat.

Marty has seen The Tempest since he saw that last, and I noticed him being
especially alert when they did their (very few) Tempest references.

I didn't expect them both to sit through the whole thing, but they both did.
Marty has seen it before. Holly had seen parts. I didn't put it on for any
purpose but my side-entertainment, and it was cool that they stuck around.
We had fun.

It was "after bedtme" in rules houses. It was also very comfortable and
sweet.

Holly LOVES those shows that show people in their houses. She's like a
sociologist (though I've not said that word to her), or an anthropologist of
American life. She likes the dating shows too, and loves to figure out which people
are dishonest, or posers, or to guess if the guy seems particularly shallow
or skewed, which girl he'll like. It's like an aberrant psychology
observation lab for her. She certainly doesn't want to grow up to BE them. <g> And
she gets to see some embarrassing teen/young-20's behavior without having to go
to school to see it. <g>

Sandra

Sandra

TreeGoddess

On Sep 27, 2004, at 2:03 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:

> [I was watching Henry V (one of my comfort background
> movies) while I was doing other stuff]

Sandra,

I love hearing about what movies you have on for comfort. I have done
the same thing for years, but didn't really know anyone else who did
too. Plus, I get free movie recommendations. ;) When I have a big
project out I'll put on a long movie like Titanic or The Sound of
Music. Shorter projects = shorter films. I have a tradition of
watching Gone With The Wind while making Thanksgiving dinner. It just
happened to be on TV one Thanksgiving about 10 years ago and since then
I watch it every time that holiday rolls around and I'm preparing our
feast. Warm fuzzies for me. :)

-Tracy-

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In a message dated 9/27/04 1:04:13 PM, treegoddess@... writes:

<< I love hearing about what movies you have on for comfort. I have done
the same thing for years, but didn't really know anyone else who did
too. Plus, I get free movie recommendations. ;) When I have a big
project out I'll put on a long movie like Titanic or The Sound of
Music. >>

It's like putting on an album, but it lasts longer. <g>

The longest music I have is Abba Gold, a VERY long Abba's greatest hits CD.

I've never used the term "comfort movie" before I don't think, but I do have
others.
El Cid
Guarding Tess


I like the sentiments, the honor, and each has a few scenes I will stop to
watch raptly, and then go on about my business. <g>

Sound of Music is a good one for when kids are sick and I know they'll fall
asleep on the couch if they see something they already know really well, and
there won't be any screaming or monster roaring to wake them up with that one.

Lots of musicals are good for just background, but for recharging my own soul
I like Henry V.

Sandra

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In a message dated 9/27/2004 1:11:01 PM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

And the mom who had been so uptight said that she had loosened up a lot, she
was letting her older son have friends over whenever he wanted to and they
kept the cat. She said she was surprised at how much she loved that cat. <g>




~~~

I thought that was great! She was sitting there on the bed, loving the cat.
Even the dad was petting the cat by the VERY next day after he said he was
really ticked off about it.

~~~~
Holly LOVES those shows that show people in their houses. She's like a
sociologist (though I've not said that word to her), or an anthropologist of
American life. She likes the dating shows too, and loves to figure out
which people
are dishonest, or posers, or to guess if the guy seems particularly shallow
or skewed, which girl he'll like. It's like an aberrant psychology
observation lab for her. She certainly doesn't want to grow up to BE them.
<g> And
she gets to see some embarrassing teen/young-20's behavior without having to
go
to school to see it. <g>

~~~~
That's how I watch them, too. I don't watch the dating shows, though,
because young people being stupid doesn't hold as much attraction for me as it
once did. Get a couple of 40 yo housewives, though, and I'm hooked. ;)

I'm glad you got to see part of it.

Karen


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[email protected]

In a message dated 9/27/2004 3:29:08 PM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

Sound of Music is a good one for when kids are sick and I know they'll fall
asleep on the couch if they see something they already know really well, and

there won't be any screaming or monster roaring to wake them up with that
one.




~~~

The Black Stallion, after the shipwreck.

Karen


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TreeGoddess

On Sep 27, 2004, at 6:10 PM, tuckervill2@... wrote:

> [The Black Stallion, after the shipwreck.]

I also love The Secret Garden (w/Maggie Smith) from 1993.
-Tracy-

Nisha

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> El Cid
> Guarding Tess
>

I like gaurding tess too. If I want bubble gum for my brain it's
Grease or Sister Act. I have watched a few movies on HBO, when I was
up with insomnia that I am so glad I got to see. Iron Jawed angels is
one, real women have curves is another one. ALso, the movie about the
blue babies, something like "something the lord made" or something
like that. Really good, and something I almost didn't check out at
all because of the title. My duaghter is always wanting to watch
WIlly Wonka, so we are anxiously waiting for the new one (charlie and
the chocoalte factory) to be released next year. It stars Johnny Depp
and is being directed by Tim Burton. SO I want to see it. It's also
not supposed to have as much of the "darkness' of the one with gene
wilder. But I'm rambling. LOL
Nisha

Sondra Carr

My comfort movie is "Harold and Maude" and my kids always want to see it
too.

Since we're on the subject of films - anyone who hasn't seen "Waking Life"
should get out and rent it. I saw it again the other day and it still blows
me away - although I don't know if I would call it a comfort movie - even on
my weird scale.



Sondra





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To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Comfort Movies -- was Change and growth



--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> El Cid
> Guarding Tess
>

I like gaurding tess too. If I want bubble gum for my brain it's
Grease or Sister Act. I have watched a few movies on HBO, when I was
up with insomnia that I am so glad I got to see. Iron Jawed angels is
one, real women have curves is another one. ALso, the movie about the
blue babies, something like "something the lord made" or something
like that. Really good, and something I almost didn't check out at
all because of the title. My duaghter is always wanting to watch
WIlly Wonka, so we are anxiously waiting for the new one (charlie and
the chocoalte factory) to be released next year. It stars Johnny Depp
and is being directed by Tim Burton. SO I want to see it. It's also
not supposed to have as much of the "darkness' of the one with gene
wilder. But I'm rambling. LOL
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mamaaj2000

I'm a sucker for old black and white movies where you get to know the
characters slowly and well through their conversations.

"The Best Years of Our Lives"
"The Philadelphia Story" (Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart)
"The Young Philadelphians" (a young Paul Newman)

lots of Hitchcock...

others that completely escape my mind at the moment!!

Any more recent movies that y'all think are in the same vein??

--aj

--- In [email protected], "Sondra Carr"
<sondracarr@u...> wrote:
> My comfort movie is "Harold and Maude" and my kids always want to
see it
> too.

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In a message dated 9/28/04 6:46:17 AM, mamaaj2000@... writes:
<<I'm a sucker for old black and white movies where you get to know the

characters slowly and well through their conversations.>>
<< Any more recent movies that y'all think are in the same vein?? >>

Not as slow, and not as black and white, but
When Harry Met Sally
Guarding Tess

lgbryk

Not as slow, and not as black and white, but
When Harry Met Sally
Guarding Tess

A movie my daughter and I watch on rainy, quiet days for comfort: Chocolat. And as I just called out to my daughter what she thought, she answered Roman Holiday with Audry Hepburn. Come to think of it, it's a drizzily, gray day here.
Linda


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Nisha

--- In [email protected], "mamaaj2000"
<mamaaj2000@y...> wrote:
> others that completely escape my mind at the moment!!
>
> Any more recent movies that y'all think are in the same vein??
>
> --aj

Black and white movies...Hmm Casablanca and the maltese falcon were
ones I really liked. Guess who's coming to dinner is probably my
favorite black and white movie. But I've always like Hepburn. I think
she was probably the last class act in Hollywood.
Nisha

Dawn Adams

Sandra writes:
>Lots of musicals are good for just background, but for recharging my own soul
>I like Henry V.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Oh, me too! Top three for that purpose are Henry V, Sense and Sensibility and Strictly Ballroom.

Dawn (in NS)


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Sondra Carr

A movie I really like is "Living Out Loud" - it's smart - kind of classy and
then not - contemporary take on finding yourself.



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--- In [email protected], "mamaaj2000"
<mamaaj2000@y...> wrote:
> others that completely escape my mind at the moment!!
>
> Any more recent movies that y'all think are in the same vein??
>
> --aj

Black and white movies...Hmm Casablanca and the maltese falcon were
ones I really liked. Guess who's coming to dinner is probably my
favorite black and white movie. But I've always like Hepburn. I think
she was probably the last class act in Hollywood.
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In a message dated 9/28/2004 3:02:24 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
Wishbone@... writes:
Oh, me too! Top three for that purpose are Henry V, Sense and Sensibility
and Strictly Ballroom.
------------

I watched Sense and Sensibility until I 'bout had it memorized so I have to
give that one a rest.

Strictly Ballroom disturbs me a little (the bad prenting and dishonesty
parts) so that's not soul-soothing, but I enjoy the heck out of it and it makes me
want to listen to Cyndi Lauper, which is nice. <g>

Another that can work like Sense and Sensibility (and lasts way longer) is
the newish Pride and Prejudice. Only thing is it has no Alan Rickman.

Sandra
(who has the first Harry Potter movie on for side-noise at the moment, and
what a beautiful first speech Snape makes--what a voice!! A little like "the
air is full of spices" bit in Sense and Sensibility)


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Andrea Burlingame

I love Sense and Sensibility too, but a Jane Austin movie I like even more
is the BBC's production of Persuasion. Very romantic...and I especially
love Ciaran Hinds portrayal of Captain Wentworth. Now I feel like heading
to the video store...LOL

~Andrea
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> In a message dated 9/28/2004 3:02:24 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
> Wishbone@... writes:
> Oh, me too! Top three for that purpose are Henry V, Sense and
Sensibility
> and Strictly Ballroom.
> ------------
>
> I watched Sense and Sensibility until I 'bout had it memorized so I have
to
> give that one a rest.
>
> Strictly Ballroom disturbs me a little (the bad prenting and dishonesty
> parts) so that's not soul-soothing, but I enjoy the heck out of it and it
makes me
> want to listen to Cyndi Lauper, which is nice. <g>
>
> Another that can work like Sense and Sensibility (and lasts way longer) is
> the newish Pride and Prejudice. Only thing is it has no Alan Rickman.
>
> Sandra
> (who has the first Harry Potter movie on for side-noise at the moment, and
> what a beautiful first speech Snape makes--what a voice!! A little like
"the
> air is full of spices" bit in Sense and Sensibility)
>
>
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>
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Nisha

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
Another that can work like Sense and Sensibility (and lasts way
longer) is
> the newish Pride and Prejudice. Only thing is it has no Alan
Rickman.
>
> Sandra

Gotta love alan rickman. He was in that HBO movie about the blue
babies back in the 50s. He and Mos Def were both nominated for emmys
for it. Really worth watching.
Nisha

Nisha

--- In [email protected], "Andrea Burlingame"
<aburlingame@c...> wrote:
> I love Sense and Sensibility too, but a Jane Austin movie I like
even more is the BBC's production of Persuasion. ... Now I feel like
heading to the video store...LOL

The BBC "thing" I've been looking for forever is their Robin Hood
series. The one with Sean Connery's son as Robin. Very pagan, very
well written, well acted, well costumed, and I can't ever seem to
find it anywhere. I'm sure it will come out on DVD one of these days.
It has run on PBS over here before, but it's been years.
Nisha

julie w

Nisha wrote:

> --- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
> Another that can work like Sense and Sensibility (and lasts way
> longer) is
> > the newish Pride and Prejudice. Only thing is it has no Alan
> Rickman.
> >
> > Sandra
>
> Gotta love alan rickman. He was in that HBO movie about the blue
> babies back in the 50s. He and Mos Def were both nominated for emmys
> for it. Really worth watching.
> Nisha

Ohhhh my.
Colonel brandon, The Sheriff of Notingham, Professor (Le Sigh) Snape.
He really is The Man.

You are really getting into my area of obsession now.
Julie W in AR


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pam sorooshian

On Sep 28, 2004, at 7:51 PM, julie w wrote:

> Ohhhh my.
> Colonel brandon, The Sheriff of Notingham, Professor (Le Sigh) Snape.
> He really is The Man.
>
> You are really getting into my area of obsession now.
> Julie W in AR

Julie sure does fit right in here, doesn't she? <BEG>

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<<<<<I'm a sucker for old black and white movies where you get to know the
characters slowly and well through their conversations.

"The Best Years of Our Lives"
"The Philadelphia Story" (Cary Grant and Jimmy Stewart)
"The Young Philadelphians" (a young Paul Newman)

lots of Hitchcock...>>>

My personal favorites as comfort movies are:

Dark Victory (Bette Davis)
Now Voyager (ditto)
Bringing Up Baby (Hepburn/Grant)
Holiday (Hepburn/Grant)
Any Judy Garland
The old Astaire/Rogers pictures
The Thin Man series
My Man Godfrey
Forever Amber
A lot of the old John Wayne pictures.

More recent good dialogue movies? Please how can you forget "When Harry Met
Sally", "Sleepless in Seattle" and "Bull Durham".

Robyn L. Coburn



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julie w

pam sorooshian wrote:

>
> On Sep 28, 2004, at 7:51 PM, julie w wrote:
>
> > Ohhhh my.
> > Colonel brandon, The Sheriff of Notingham, Professor (Le Sigh) Snape.
> > He really is The Man.
> >
> > You are really getting into my area of obsession now.
> > Julie W in AR
>
> Julie sure does fit right in here, doesn't she? <BEG>
>
~gah~
Pam, behave yourself, or I'll end up reveling how much Harry Potter
(well Snape) fanfiction I read...
And thanks, I'm glad I fit in somewhere.....

Julie W