Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Digest Number 4873
Ali Kat
*******This family is always doing �No eat this first� despite over a year of our fine example before them (sigh).******
I find myself doing this a lot... I try not to, but it's so hard when it seems DD eats only breads and fried stuff. With her severe constipation problems, I am afraid she'll never get straightened around if she never gets anything fiberous.
When Jayn goes to other''s houses, do you tell her that other people have different rules and she has to listen to those rules? (i.e. at home she can jump on the couch but at so-and-so's house she can't do that) I ask because I wonder if this idea couldn't work the same with your two visitors, especially if their mom isn't there... <BEG>
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I find myself doing this a lot... I try not to, but it's so hard when it seems DD eats only breads and fried stuff. With her severe constipation problems, I am afraid she'll never get straightened around if she never gets anything fiberous.
When Jayn goes to other''s houses, do you tell her that other people have different rules and she has to listen to those rules? (i.e. at home she can jump on the couch but at so-and-so's house she can't do that) I ask because I wonder if this idea couldn't work the same with your two visitors, especially if their mom isn't there... <BEG>
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In a message dated 8/19/04 2:32:53 PM, sweetgypsiedncer@... writes:
<< With her severe constipation problems, I am afraid she'll never get
straightened around if she never gets anything fiberous.
Formulas, herbal supplement, 'Triphala Internal Cleanser.'
Very mild.
Sandra
<< With her severe constipation problems, I am afraid she'll never get
straightened around if she never gets anything fiberous.
>>There's an ayurvedic pill called "Triphala." We have one by Planetary
Formulas, herbal supplement, 'Triphala Internal Cleanser.'
Very mild.
Sandra
Robyn Coburn
<<<I find myself doing this a lot... I try not to, but it's so hard when it
seems DD eats only breads and fried stuff. With her severe constipation
problems, I am afraid she'll never get straightened around if she never gets
anything fiberous.>>>
Does she like bacon? Have you tried "Devils on Horseback"? Pitted Prunes
wrapped in bacon (secure with wooden toothpick) and broiled or grilled (I
use my George Forman). Tastes like fried, lots of fiber. Don't eat too many
at once or you will have the opposite problem.
Really though, I think all you can really do is explain to her about the
connection between fiber and comfort, and continue looking for a fresh fruit
that she likes, or a cereal, or maybe a Metamucil type product in a
smoothie?
I have told Jayn, fairly simplistically, that fruit helps makes her poop
come out easily. I have found that if she ever has a movement that is pebble
like, she will look at it and say she needs to eat some fruit.
<<<<<When Jayn goes to other''s houses, do you tell her that other people
have different rules and she has to listen to those rules? (i.e. at home
she can jump on the couch but at so-and-so's house she can't do that) I ask
because I wonder if this idea couldn't work the same with your two visitors,
especially if their mom isn't there... <BEG>>>>>
Firstly, we don't have rules, at least we don't ever express our requests to
Jayn in those terms. I guess we have a few "habitual behaviors" that we
pretty much always ask of Jayn, such as to wait for one of us to go down to
the pool with her, even if there is someone already swimming. Speaking to
other visitors to our home in terms of "our house rules" would feel
hypocritical to me, even though I am sure that other kids have a greater
understanding of what the word means than Jayn does. I usually say more like
"I prefer you to...." or "That could be dangerous/disturbing to someone..."
or "Those things are not available today" (for some toy that is put up).
I must say that the vast majority of homes that we go to have a free and lax
attitude towards stuff like jumping on sofas, and mostly rules are
invisible. However there are places we go to where behavior standards are
different, usually public places. When forbidding and grumpy docents express
themselves in terms of "It's The Rule Here", evidently expecting a reaction
of instant compliance because of that word, I find Jayn kind of looks at
them with a "What's up your ass?" expression (possibly one of Sandra's
cobs). I translate for her into our more gentle language. For example: "They
don't want people to run in here because they are afraid people might fall
or run into each other or things and get hurt"; "They want everyone to keep
their socks on because it is more hygienic".
When we visit someone's home Jayn generally takes her cue from the host
children. It has been a really long time since we have been to a home when
someone had some kind of stated rule. It was "No food in the schoolroom" (I
think you can see instantly why we have not ended up in a close ongoing
relationship with that family). I'm afraid I was the person who didn't
realize that it was a "RULE" and that was why the little girl (they were
both just 2 at the time) was getting distressed. Also we had been to a party
when the kids specifically ate in the schoolroom set up for the purpose, so
I was confused.
I guess I don't express anything to Jayn with the words, "Their rule is..."
Instead I say, "So-and-so doesn't want you to ...." Jayn will often ask
questions about why if someone makes a sweeping statement like "We don't
...."
Robyn L. Coburn
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seems DD eats only breads and fried stuff. With her severe constipation
problems, I am afraid she'll never get straightened around if she never gets
anything fiberous.>>>
Does she like bacon? Have you tried "Devils on Horseback"? Pitted Prunes
wrapped in bacon (secure with wooden toothpick) and broiled or grilled (I
use my George Forman). Tastes like fried, lots of fiber. Don't eat too many
at once or you will have the opposite problem.
Really though, I think all you can really do is explain to her about the
connection between fiber and comfort, and continue looking for a fresh fruit
that she likes, or a cereal, or maybe a Metamucil type product in a
smoothie?
I have told Jayn, fairly simplistically, that fruit helps makes her poop
come out easily. I have found that if she ever has a movement that is pebble
like, she will look at it and say she needs to eat some fruit.
<<<<<When Jayn goes to other''s houses, do you tell her that other people
have different rules and she has to listen to those rules? (i.e. at home
she can jump on the couch but at so-and-so's house she can't do that) I ask
because I wonder if this idea couldn't work the same with your two visitors,
especially if their mom isn't there... <BEG>>>>>
Firstly, we don't have rules, at least we don't ever express our requests to
Jayn in those terms. I guess we have a few "habitual behaviors" that we
pretty much always ask of Jayn, such as to wait for one of us to go down to
the pool with her, even if there is someone already swimming. Speaking to
other visitors to our home in terms of "our house rules" would feel
hypocritical to me, even though I am sure that other kids have a greater
understanding of what the word means than Jayn does. I usually say more like
"I prefer you to...." or "That could be dangerous/disturbing to someone..."
or "Those things are not available today" (for some toy that is put up).
I must say that the vast majority of homes that we go to have a free and lax
attitude towards stuff like jumping on sofas, and mostly rules are
invisible. However there are places we go to where behavior standards are
different, usually public places. When forbidding and grumpy docents express
themselves in terms of "It's The Rule Here", evidently expecting a reaction
of instant compliance because of that word, I find Jayn kind of looks at
them with a "What's up your ass?" expression (possibly one of Sandra's
cobs). I translate for her into our more gentle language. For example: "They
don't want people to run in here because they are afraid people might fall
or run into each other or things and get hurt"; "They want everyone to keep
their socks on because it is more hygienic".
When we visit someone's home Jayn generally takes her cue from the host
children. It has been a really long time since we have been to a home when
someone had some kind of stated rule. It was "No food in the schoolroom" (I
think you can see instantly why we have not ended up in a close ongoing
relationship with that family). I'm afraid I was the person who didn't
realize that it was a "RULE" and that was why the little girl (they were
both just 2 at the time) was getting distressed. Also we had been to a party
when the kids specifically ate in the schoolroom set up for the purpose, so
I was confused.
I guess I don't express anything to Jayn with the words, "Their rule is..."
Instead I say, "So-and-so doesn't want you to ...." Jayn will often ask
questions about why if someone makes a sweeping statement like "We don't
...."
Robyn L. Coburn
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Julie
*** I have told Jayn, fairly simplistically, that fruit helps makes her poop
come out easily. I have found that if she ever has a movement that is pebble
like, she will look at it and say she needs to eat some fruit.***
I did this with Mia. Sometimes I'll hear her calling me and she will be
sitting on the toilet with an 'earnest' look on her face and she'll say
"Mummy, Can you please get me some fwoot? I weeally need some fwoot."
Julie
come out easily. I have found that if she ever has a movement that is pebble
like, she will look at it and say she needs to eat some fruit.***
I did this with Mia. Sometimes I'll hear her calling me and she will be
sitting on the toilet with an 'earnest' look on her face and she'll say
"Mummy, Can you please get me some fwoot? I weeally need some fwoot."
Julie
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In a message dated 8/20/04 11:44:35 PM, mjsolich@... writes:
<< Sometimes I'll hear her calling me and she will be
sitting on the toilet with an 'earnest' look on her face and she'll say
"Mummy, Can you please get me some fwoot? I weeally need some fwoot."
Fruit pops.
<< Sometimes I'll hear her calling me and she will be
sitting on the toilet with an 'earnest' look on her face and she'll say
"Mummy, Can you please get me some fwoot? I weeally need some fwoot."
>>Bran muffins can help too.
Fruit pops.
Vijay Berry Owens
DD loves frozen blueberries or grapes. Something about freezing fruit
makes it more appealing to some kids who resist eating fruit. Also
drinking enough water is key. Maybe let kids drink out of a special or
unusual container to get them to drink more water?
Also sometimes canned or jarred fruit (not baby food) like pineapple or
mandarin oranges are appealing because it's different from the everyday
apples and bananas. I think they even have exotic tropical fruits in
jars now, like mangoes and papayas.
I'm lucky, my DD LOVES fruits and veggies and we never have poop
problems. Lots of diaper changes, lol, but no problems.
-Vijay
SAHM to Charlotte, 15 months
makes it more appealing to some kids who resist eating fruit. Also
drinking enough water is key. Maybe let kids drink out of a special or
unusual container to get them to drink more water?
Also sometimes canned or jarred fruit (not baby food) like pineapple or
mandarin oranges are appealing because it's different from the everyday
apples and bananas. I think they even have exotic tropical fruits in
jars now, like mangoes and papayas.
I'm lucky, my DD LOVES fruits and veggies and we never have poop
problems. Lots of diaper changes, lol, but no problems.
-Vijay
SAHM to Charlotte, 15 months
On Saturday, August 21, 2004, at 08:55 AM, SandraDodd@... wrote:
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> In a message dated 8/20/04 11:44:35 PM, mjsolich@... writes:
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> << Sometimes I'll hear her calling me and she will be
> sitting on the toilet with an 'earnest' look on her face and she'll say
> "Mummy, Can you please get me some fwoot? I weeally need some fwoot."
> >>
>
> Bran muffins can help too.
> Fruit pops.���
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Nisha
I did the same thing with my kids. That fruit and veggies have
something called fiber in them, and that is what helps them poop.
Also that if they don't drink enough water, that can also make it
hard to poop. I have had similar "bathroom conferences" with both of
my little ones. LOL
Nisha
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something called fiber in them, and that is what helps them poop.
Also that if they don't drink enough water, that can also make it
hard to poop. I have had similar "bathroom conferences" with both of
my little ones. LOL
Nisha
--- In [email protected], "Julie" <mjsolich@i...>
wrote:
> I did this with Mia. Sometimes I'll hear her calling me and shewill be
> sitting on the toilet with an 'earnest' look on her face and she'llsay
> "Mummy, Can you please get me some fwoot? I weeally need somefwoot."
>
> Julie