Children's Books/Memories Was: on being judgemental...
jennefer harper
In a message dated 8/11/2004 4:42:28 AM Eastern
Daylight Time,
kkahney@... writes:
(he has a great children's book called "Little Soul
and the Sun" that
is
about exactly this idea of children choosing their
life circumstances
before
they enter, good or bad.<<<<<
There's a CHILDREN'S book????
Now, see, THAT's bad. Sure---adults who want to
believe that their
children
chose them is fine. But to put all that on a CHILD? I
don't think
that's good.
~Kelly
But, what's so bad about having a children's book
about it? I think we should all read the book before
criticizing it; even if we are biased about the
topic. There are lots of children's book I don't
like, but that doesn't mean I think they shouldn't be
available. For example, all those children's books
about mommy having another baby. Most all of them are
stories about mommy going to the hospital or bottle
feeding the baby. I don't necessarily think they're
"BAD", I just don't choose them to read to my child in
helping to explain birth. (We homebirth and
breastfeed.)
Also, there are a ton of children's religious books.
Just because I'm not a practicing Christian doesn't
make me think they're "BAD". Yes I cringe at the
sight of them and no I wouldn't choose one to check
out for my child from the library, but at least they
are available for children who do have an interest.
Talking to my partner about the idea of whether or not
a child picks his parents before being born into this
world- even choosing to be born into bad circumstances
like to parents who abuse them, he shared that he has
an early childhood memory- one of his firsts, of being
given the choice of what type of life he wanted to be
born into. What parents he wanted to be born to.
*Ohmigosh!* Great, I thought, there goes my theory. I
was shocked and intrigued to hear him say that his
earliest memory was being in a conversation with
someone and being given the choice of a few different
types of lives to be born into. He told me that he
told this "being" that he wanted an easy life this
time around and wanted to live in the US. So it be.
(?) No, my partner is not crazy. Yes, he is eclectic
and has traveled to India several times and has hung
out with the Dali Lama and other teachers. But, I
have to believe him, right? But, how to make sense of
this? I asked him, what about an innocent child
choosing to be born to parents who
mentally/physically/sexually abuse him/her and kill
them? Do you think someone would choose that? And
why? He says, they are probably give the choice of a
few lives and they may or may not pick the better one.
That some people may only choose to be on this earth
for a short time. That some people need to learn
something and through those experiences, that's how
they learn what they need to learn to move on. I
said, what about a little baby who gets killed? What
do they learn from that? He says, well,
contemplation.
So, I guess to make a long story short, I mainly
wanted to share this story, which makes me wonder if
there are other children out there who do remember
given the choice of parents to be born to? And, how
can this be explained if it is not a fact?
-Jennefer
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Daylight Time,
kkahney@... writes:
(he has a great children's book called "Little Soul
and the Sun" that
is
about exactly this idea of children choosing their
life circumstances
before
they enter, good or bad.<<<<<
There's a CHILDREN'S book????
Now, see, THAT's bad. Sure---adults who want to
believe that their
children
chose them is fine. But to put all that on a CHILD? I
don't think
that's good.
~Kelly
But, what's so bad about having a children's book
about it? I think we should all read the book before
criticizing it; even if we are biased about the
topic. There are lots of children's book I don't
like, but that doesn't mean I think they shouldn't be
available. For example, all those children's books
about mommy having another baby. Most all of them are
stories about mommy going to the hospital or bottle
feeding the baby. I don't necessarily think they're
"BAD", I just don't choose them to read to my child in
helping to explain birth. (We homebirth and
breastfeed.)
Also, there are a ton of children's religious books.
Just because I'm not a practicing Christian doesn't
make me think they're "BAD". Yes I cringe at the
sight of them and no I wouldn't choose one to check
out for my child from the library, but at least they
are available for children who do have an interest.
Talking to my partner about the idea of whether or not
a child picks his parents before being born into this
world- even choosing to be born into bad circumstances
like to parents who abuse them, he shared that he has
an early childhood memory- one of his firsts, of being
given the choice of what type of life he wanted to be
born into. What parents he wanted to be born to.
*Ohmigosh!* Great, I thought, there goes my theory. I
was shocked and intrigued to hear him say that his
earliest memory was being in a conversation with
someone and being given the choice of a few different
types of lives to be born into. He told me that he
told this "being" that he wanted an easy life this
time around and wanted to live in the US. So it be.
(?) No, my partner is not crazy. Yes, he is eclectic
and has traveled to India several times and has hung
out with the Dali Lama and other teachers. But, I
have to believe him, right? But, how to make sense of
this? I asked him, what about an innocent child
choosing to be born to parents who
mentally/physically/sexually abuse him/her and kill
them? Do you think someone would choose that? And
why? He says, they are probably give the choice of a
few lives and they may or may not pick the better one.
That some people may only choose to be on this earth
for a short time. That some people need to learn
something and through those experiences, that's how
they learn what they need to learn to move on. I
said, what about a little baby who gets killed? What
do they learn from that? He says, well,
contemplation.
So, I guess to make a long story short, I mainly
wanted to share this story, which makes me wonder if
there are other children out there who do remember
given the choice of parents to be born to? And, how
can this be explained if it is not a fact?
-Jennefer
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on 8/11/04 1:54 PM, jennefer harper at jenneferh2000@... wrote:
the idea of passing on the idea of souls choosing the life they lead onto a
child.
I can see that it could be healing for an adult who is out of an abusive
past to look at the positive that came out of it and embrace the idea that
they chose to live through that in order to learn what they did. (Or even
accept that their soul learned something that they may not be able to
understand until after death.)
But for a child who is living a life of abuse -- from parents who think they
are being good parents -- it could just add to the burden she's bearing.
It's romantic to think of a happy child who loves her life being presented
with the idea that she chose the parents she did. But it's short sighted not
to take into account the effect on children who are leading rotten lives.
Learning something from a bad experience doesn't justify the bad experience
or the existence of bad experiences. There are far too many people suffering
through bad experiences who will end up damaged and pass that damage on to
others to suggest that because good can come from bad, that there must be a
good reason for bad.
Joyce
> But, what's so bad about having a children's book about it?I can't comment on the book since I haven't read it. But I can comment on
the idea of passing on the idea of souls choosing the life they lead onto a
child.
I can see that it could be healing for an adult who is out of an abusive
past to look at the positive that came out of it and embrace the idea that
they chose to live through that in order to learn what they did. (Or even
accept that their soul learned something that they may not be able to
understand until after death.)
But for a child who is living a life of abuse -- from parents who think they
are being good parents -- it could just add to the burden she's bearing.
It's romantic to think of a happy child who loves her life being presented
with the idea that she chose the parents she did. But it's short sighted not
to take into account the effect on children who are leading rotten lives.
Learning something from a bad experience doesn't justify the bad experience
or the existence of bad experiences. There are far too many people suffering
through bad experiences who will end up damaged and pass that damage on to
others to suggest that because good can come from bad, that there must be a
good reason for bad.
Joyce