Advice needed re: very social 5 yo
mark and rheta wallingford
We recently moved and the kids took it well, especially since my 5 yo dd
has a lot more freedom here. She is on her bike at 7:30 a.m. riding up
and down the street (its a dead end that comes out to a side street
with another dead end road attached), we keep in touch with walkie
talkies, too. Thats great although difficult to keep her from waking
people up by knocking on their doors too early. Bel is what I would
call extremely social. She is an extrovert and gets a lot of energy
from playing with other kids. Im not like that at all. When she cant
find anyone to play with, she gets extremely frustrated. She doesnt
like to do crafts, she will not play alone and plays with her 2 ½ yo
sister only when there is no one else. Only since we moved here has she
said to me that her sister is just a baby and she doesnt want to play
baby games. I know that was bound to come up at sometime but I know one
of the older kids said it to her. Thats a different issue. I cant
shelter them from life but can only explain how unfair that statement is
to her sister. My problem lies in the fact that if there is no one to
play with, Bel wants me to be her playmate for hours on end and I cant
do that. I will play games and read books, go for walks, the park, etc.
but at some point I need to answer the phone for our business and get
things done. When it comes time to go somewhere, she gives me such a
hard time because there are kids out and she wants to be playing (thats
probably pretty typical but it makes things extremely difficult).
Sometimes its hard for the other kids, too, because they will come in
and she will have me set up a project for them to do but wont let the
other kid finish. Bel has a hard time finishing projects which is fine
but she wont let the other kids finish if shes ready to move on.
I dont know how to help her keep herself occupied. If she isnt
playing with friends, shes watching tv. She knows how to read but
doesnt pick up a book that often for pleasure. I have picked up many
books for her that are about the things she is interested in right now.
I have read her those same books but she doesnt just pick them up
unless there is nothing on tv. I am worried that come September when
all these kids go to school, she is going to spend 8 hours a day
watching tv or screaming at me because there is no one to play with. We
try to do outside things with other homeschoolers and just going to
places where kids can play but thats only a couple hours here and there
and she has a hard time with stopping. She would be content going from
an amusement park to a party to another amusement park all in the same
day. I have no clue how to deal with this. I get my energy from quiet
time where I can write or do rubberstamping or scrapbooking. I not only
have a hard time understanding her boredom but have a harder time with
her constant in and out routine when she sees kids out in the
neighborhood. I want most of all for her to be able to be herself while
taking into consideration the familys needs as well. Her sister gets
left in the middle of a game if Bel sees a friend outside. I cant
establish any kind of a loose routine (which I need to stay sane and run
the business) because she wants to be outside knocking on everyones
door so early! I could use advice from other parents of really
extroverted kids who cant seem to do any thing without another persons
involvement (including going to get dressed she insists her sister
needs to go upstairs with her) and how they handle the issues that arise
when the neighborhood kids go back to public school. We keep busy but
for Bel its not enough unless she is playing and involved with others
from waking to sleeping.
Rheta
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has a lot more freedom here. She is on her bike at 7:30 a.m. riding up
and down the street (its a dead end that comes out to a side street
with another dead end road attached), we keep in touch with walkie
talkies, too. Thats great although difficult to keep her from waking
people up by knocking on their doors too early. Bel is what I would
call extremely social. She is an extrovert and gets a lot of energy
from playing with other kids. Im not like that at all. When she cant
find anyone to play with, she gets extremely frustrated. She doesnt
like to do crafts, she will not play alone and plays with her 2 ½ yo
sister only when there is no one else. Only since we moved here has she
said to me that her sister is just a baby and she doesnt want to play
baby games. I know that was bound to come up at sometime but I know one
of the older kids said it to her. Thats a different issue. I cant
shelter them from life but can only explain how unfair that statement is
to her sister. My problem lies in the fact that if there is no one to
play with, Bel wants me to be her playmate for hours on end and I cant
do that. I will play games and read books, go for walks, the park, etc.
but at some point I need to answer the phone for our business and get
things done. When it comes time to go somewhere, she gives me such a
hard time because there are kids out and she wants to be playing (thats
probably pretty typical but it makes things extremely difficult).
Sometimes its hard for the other kids, too, because they will come in
and she will have me set up a project for them to do but wont let the
other kid finish. Bel has a hard time finishing projects which is fine
but she wont let the other kids finish if shes ready to move on.
I dont know how to help her keep herself occupied. If she isnt
playing with friends, shes watching tv. She knows how to read but
doesnt pick up a book that often for pleasure. I have picked up many
books for her that are about the things she is interested in right now.
I have read her those same books but she doesnt just pick them up
unless there is nothing on tv. I am worried that come September when
all these kids go to school, she is going to spend 8 hours a day
watching tv or screaming at me because there is no one to play with. We
try to do outside things with other homeschoolers and just going to
places where kids can play but thats only a couple hours here and there
and she has a hard time with stopping. She would be content going from
an amusement park to a party to another amusement park all in the same
day. I have no clue how to deal with this. I get my energy from quiet
time where I can write or do rubberstamping or scrapbooking. I not only
have a hard time understanding her boredom but have a harder time with
her constant in and out routine when she sees kids out in the
neighborhood. I want most of all for her to be able to be herself while
taking into consideration the familys needs as well. Her sister gets
left in the middle of a game if Bel sees a friend outside. I cant
establish any kind of a loose routine (which I need to stay sane and run
the business) because she wants to be outside knocking on everyones
door so early! I could use advice from other parents of really
extroverted kids who cant seem to do any thing without another persons
involvement (including going to get dressed she insists her sister
needs to go upstairs with her) and how they handle the issues that arise
when the neighborhood kids go back to public school. We keep busy but
for Bel its not enough unless she is playing and involved with others
from waking to sleeping.
Rheta
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In a message dated 7/27/04 2:51:53 PM, wallingford@... writes:
<< I could use advice from other parents of really
extroverted kids who can’t seem to do any thing without another person’s
involvement >>
Kirby was that way. Luckily, I'm extroverted too, but my husband is not, and
our second son was not.
MAYBE, perhaps, you could babysit? I wouldn't commit to something longterm,
but maybe seeing if keeping someone else's (maybe slightly older!) child
sometimes would satisfy the need for non-stop play and also keep you from having to
be the playmate.
Maybe there's a homeschooling family with working parents and you could be
the babysitter, at least sometimes. If you found someone your daughter really
likes, and especially if it's someone older or calming or both, you could
accomplish several things at once.
Sandra
<< I could use advice from other parents of really
extroverted kids who can’t seem to do any thing without another person’s
involvement >>
Kirby was that way. Luckily, I'm extroverted too, but my husband is not, and
our second son was not.
MAYBE, perhaps, you could babysit? I wouldn't commit to something longterm,
but maybe seeing if keeping someone else's (maybe slightly older!) child
sometimes would satisfy the need for non-stop play and also keep you from having to
be the playmate.
Maybe there's a homeschooling family with working parents and you could be
the babysitter, at least sometimes. If you found someone your daughter really
likes, and especially if it's someone older or calming or both, you could
accomplish several things at once.
Sandra
eriksmama2001
I have even been considering a non-compulsory "preschool" for my son
to meet his social needs. Totally at his discretion to come or go and
I can attend apparently. It is called Open Door.
But as you mentioned, when these children go off to school that
leaves him alone. I think by then he will have more specific
interests that may have other participants his age hopefully. We also
do the music and gym classes locally.
Pat
--- In [email protected], "mark and rheta
wallingford" <wallingford@m...> wrote:
to meet his social needs. Totally at his discretion to come or go and
I can attend apparently. It is called Open Door.
But as you mentioned, when these children go off to school that
leaves him alone. I think by then he will have more specific
interests that may have other participants his age hopefully. We also
do the music and gym classes locally.
Pat
--- In [email protected], "mark and rheta
wallingford" <wallingford@m...> wrote:
> We recently moved and the kids took it well, especially since my 5yo dd
> has a lot more freedom here. She is on her bike at 7:30 a.m.riding up
> and down the street (it's a dead end that comes out to a side streetwaking
> with another dead end road attached), we keep in touch with walkie
> talkies, too. That's great although difficult to keep her from
> people up by knocking on their doors too early. Bel is what I wouldcan't
> call extremely social. She is an extrovert and gets a lot of energy
> from playing with other kids. I'm not like that at all. When she
> find anyone to play with, she gets extremely frustrated. Shedoesn't
> like to do crafts, she will not play alone and plays with her 2 ½ yohas she
> sister only when there is no one else. Only since we moved here
> said to me that her sister is just a baby and she doesn't want toplay
> baby games. I know that was bound to come up at sometime but Iknow one
> of the older kids said it to her. That's a different issue. Ican't
> shelter them from life but can only explain how unfair thatstatement is
> to her sister. My problem lies in the fact that if there is noone to
> play with, Bel wants me to be her playmate for hours on end and Ican't
> do that. I will play games and read books, go for walks, the park,etc.
> but at some point I need to answer the phone for our business andget
> things done. When it comes time to go somewhere, she gives me sucha
> hard time because there are kids out and she wants to be playing(that's
> probably pretty typical but it makes things extremely difficult).in
> Sometimes it's hard for the other kids, too, because they will come
> and she will have me set up a project for them to do but won't letthe
> other kid finish. Bel has a hard time finishing projects which isfine
> but she won't let the other kids finish if she's ready to moveon.
>many
> I don't know how to help her keep herself occupied. If she isn't
> playing with friends, she's watching tv. She knows how to read but
> doesn't pick up a book that often for pleasure. I have picked up
> books for her that are about the things she is interested in rightnow.
> I have read her those same books but she doesn't just pick them upwhen
> unless there is nothing on tv. I am worried that come September
> all these kids go to school, she is going to spend 8 hours a daywith. We
> watching tv or screaming at me because there is no one to play
> try to do outside things with other homeschoolers and just going tothere
> places where kids can play but that's only a couple hours here and
> and she has a hard time with stopping. She would be content goingfrom
> an amusement park to a party to another amusement park all in thesame
> day. I have no clue how to deal with this. I get my energy fromquiet
> time where I can write or do rubberstamping or scrapbooking. I notonly
> have a hard time understanding her boredom but have a harder timewith
> her constant in and out routine when she sees kids out in thewhile
> neighborhood. I want most of all for her to be able to be herself
> taking into consideration the family's needs as well. Her sistergets
> left in the middle of a game if Bel sees a friend outside. I can'tand run
> establish any kind of a loose routine (which I need to stay sane
> the business) because she wants to be outside knocking on everyone'sperson's
> door so early! I could use advice from other parents of really
> extroverted kids who can't seem to do any thing without another
> involvement (including going to get dressed she insists her sisterarise
> needs to go upstairs with her) and how they handle the issues that
> when the neighborhood kids go back to public school. We keep busybut
> for Bel it's not enough unless she is playing and involved withothers
> from waking to sleeping.
>
> Rheta
>
>
>
>
>
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Gerard Westenberg
<<I could use advice from other parents of really
extroverted kids who can't seem to do any thing without another person's
involvement >>.
My first and fourth sons are/were like this - whereas the youngest two just love to stay home ( and thats another different story!).
A couple of things we did --started homeschool playgroup in our house one day a week - so there was always a core bunch of kids who came over with their mums for the day. I also set up a weekly homeschool park day. Maybe fit your work schedule in around this?
We also have set up many play dates - homeschool friends coming over or schooled friends after school, or J going to a friend's house. My eldest sometimes went to after school care activities, even though he didn't go to school - he liked the group social things in the afternoons and school holidays. I found that when they had friends over, playing, I could get other stuff done, spend time with other kids - cos the social child was having his social needs met....Leonie
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extroverted kids who can't seem to do any thing without another person's
involvement >>.
My first and fourth sons are/were like this - whereas the youngest two just love to stay home ( and thats another different story!).
A couple of things we did --started homeschool playgroup in our house one day a week - so there was always a core bunch of kids who came over with their mums for the day. I also set up a weekly homeschool park day. Maybe fit your work schedule in around this?
We also have set up many play dates - homeschool friends coming over or schooled friends after school, or J going to a friend's house. My eldest sometimes went to after school care activities, even though he didn't go to school - he liked the group social things in the afternoons and school holidays. I found that when they had friends over, playing, I could get other stuff done, spend time with other kids - cos the social child was having his social needs met....Leonie
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