Sherry Hagen

RE: Unschooling and homebase business

Hi folks,

My son is 6 years old and I have been doing my own business for over 4 years. He's gotten
kind of used to it. When I get a call I just tell him that it's a business call and "most" of
the time he's patient. I also talk to folks sometimes when we are out and about and I'm
looking for prospects, sometimes he does well, sometimes I slip him a quarter for the nearby
gum ball machine. I do more of my serious work in the evening a few nights a week when my
husband is home. I also keep in touch via e-mail to folks already with my company or
interested in my company. Right now, I'm grabbing some time as my son is playing with
neighbors in the back. I always have to be alert and ready to any change. I also have to
make sure I make time for my family. It's also an interesting situation when my son gets
really busy in the house and leaves "projects, creations" around the house, when I'm not
looking and on the phone.

Sherry Hagen, Menominee, Upper Michigan

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> 1. RE: unused crib-family bed
> From: "Brynn" <panchot@...>
> 2. Re: New Member Here
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> 3. slings
> From: Jennifer VanLaanen-Smit <jvanlaanen@...>
> 4. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> 5. Re: New Member Here
> From: "Trisha Sides" <yschild@...>
> 6. Re: slings
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> 7. Japanese editorial on crime by children
> From: Covert <[email protected]>
> 8. Re: unused crib
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 9. Re: NPR Diane Rehm show 6/20/00 - Homeschooling!
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 10. Re: unused crib
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 11. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 12. Re: unused crib
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 13. Re: New Member Here
> From: marbleface@...
> 14. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> 15. Re: nicknames
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 16. Re: nicknames
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 17. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: jowi3@...
> 18. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 19. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 20. Re: New Member Here
> From: NumoAstro@...
> 21. unschooling and home business
> From: NumoAstro@...
> 22. Re: unschooling and home business
> From: Debra Caruso <mama@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:00:38 -0700
> From: "Brynn" <panchot@...>
> Subject: RE: unused crib-family bed
>
> Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bedThank you for the kind,
> supportive responses! It was so nice to read them. :-) I'll feel better
> tonight when Emily says, "I'm going to go to sleep by meself now mom" after
> I'm done reading to her.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Brynn
>
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> Swing with the chicken that you love best
> Come on down & do the chicken squawk with me..."
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gayle Bechtel [mailto:jbabi@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed
>
> Brynn
> My second son is the same way - very independent. He will go and lay down
> in his bed when he is tired(he is going to be 2 July 7th). My oldest (3
> 1/2) still likes someone to lay down with him, and he co-sleeps with his
> brother. They still get up and want someone in there at night sometimes -
> hubby gets that job. He enjoys it really. They are just different children
> with different needs. My oldest though is more outgoing to strangers - goes
> up to them and talks with them. My youngest will wander off and not even
> look back. So I am sure you are doing what is right but they just have
> different night time needs.
> Gayle
> From: CA Nelson
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed
>
> Brynn-
> I can imagine how said you feel when you're daughter is being so
> independent, but just think how wonderful it is that because you met all of
> her attachment and security needs when she was an infant you gave her the
> self-confidence to do all of these things on her own. I wouldn't doubt that
> your son might have been hanging on a bit longer because of those nights in
> the crib, but every child is different. You just have to do what works with
> each one, huh?
>
> --
> Amy Nelson
> Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
> "The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
>
> We had a family bed until about a year ago, my 9yods still LOVES to
> hop in
> bed with us. My beautiful 5yodd, HOWEVER, has been saying "can I go
> get in
>
> my bed?" for a long time.
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> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:10:21 -0500
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
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> Dawn-
> Hi and welcome! I have some of the same questions and fears as you do
> when it comes to unschooling my one-year-old daughter. Sorry I don't have
> any advice for you, but just wanted to welcome you and let you know you're
> not alone with your thoughts.
>
> --
> Amy Nelson
> Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
> "The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
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> Date: 19 Jun 00 16:14:51 HST
> From: Jennifer VanLaanen-Smit <jvanlaanen@...>
> Subject: slings
>
> I just began to get this list and wanted to say that I am enjoying it. As for
> baby slings . . . I like the New Native style best. I have a page on my
> website that tells you how to make slings with sarongs and sheets. If you are
> interested the site is www.naturalparenting.org.
>
> ~~Jennifer VanLaanen-Smit~~
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> > I don't know if it's a trend or what, but everyone I know with baby boys
> > or toddlers just seems to grow em big and gorgeous :).
>
> well, he seems little to me:) and he is gorgeous (not that I'm biased or
> anything)
>
> > How old is your son again? We just took Accalia to the doctor for her
> > one-year checkup, and she weighed in at 20 lbs. 11 oz. and was 30 inches
> > long.
>
> he's 4 weeks tomorrow. amazing how time flies....
>
> dawn
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:39:01 CDT
> From: "Trisha Sides" <yschild@...>
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> Welcome Dawn!
> Keep reading this list it is wonderful and banishes my doubts daily. I
> have found ,in my experience that you do not have to entertain them
> constantly, in fact it's probably better if you don't, they become more
> creative when left to their own devices. I'm always amazed by what my son
> (age 6) comes up with on his own. Good luck.
> Trisha
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:56 -0500
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> Subject: Re: slings
>
> Jennifer-
> I just want you to know that I love your site! I discovered it a while
> back and always recommend it to others for a variety of subjects.
>
> --
> Amy Nelson
> Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
> "The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
>
> I just began to get this list and wanted to say that I am enjoying it. As
> for
> baby slings . . . I like the New Native style best. I have a page on my
> website that tells you how to make slings with sarongs and sheets. If you
> are
> interested the site is www.naturalparenting.org.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 00 12:34:39 +0900
> From: Covert <[email protected]>
> Subject: Japanese editorial on crime by children
>
> Hi folks,
>
> It's election time here in Japan, and you know what that means: more
> clouding of the real issues at hand, tons of promises, and little or no
> action taken to address the problems once all the noise is over.
>
> Following is a newspaper editorial in today's Japan Times newspaper that
> gives some idea of what those in official circles are thinking during
> this election campaign about child-related crime.
>
> I say "official circles" because despite its independent status, the
> Japan Times is well-known for historically having a very cozy
> relationship with the Japanese government. The paper has dutifully earned
> its reputation as the "mouthpiece" of Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
> on just about every economic and political issue you can name. One of the
> newspaper's past presidents, Mr. Shintaro Fukushima, in fact, has
> formerly served as Japan's ambassador to the United Nations.
>
> But for what it's worth, here's the editorial. Not too surprisingly, the
> article never delves into the influence that Japan's oppressive school
> system has on the psyches of these so-called "young miscreants." Oh well,
> maybe in the next election....
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me, I hear a campaign soundtruck coming up the
> street, and I must go outside and get my daily dose of noise pollution. <g>
>
> Brian Covert
> (KnoK NEWS)
> in Osaka, Japan
>
> ---------------------------
>
> EDITORIAL - The Japan Times
> Tuesday, June 20, 2000
>
> AGE IS NOT ALL THAT MATTERS
>
> With the volume favored by candidates' loudspeaker cars, it can be
> difficult to tell what issues they are addressing in the campaign leading
> up to Sunday's election for the House of Representatives. Both the ruling
> and opposition parties are engaging in the usual name-calling and
> sloganeering and not giving more than superficial attention to some of
> the main concerns of potential voters. One of these is the rising tide of
> juvenile violence that parents, school authorities and the police all
> seem powerless to control.
>
> A number of heinous incidents this year have all involved 17-year-olds.
> But as each day's news brings a fresh report of yet another case of
> youthful criminal behavior, the age level of the perpetrators has dropped
> to as low as 15 or even 14. Meanwhile, all the political parties are
> mainly concentrating on the idea of lowering the age at which young
> people legally become adults to 18 from the present 20. Prime Minister
> Yoshiro Mori, campaigning nationwide for the Liberal Democratic Party and
> its partners in the governing coalition, is having some success in
> controlling his tendency to make provocative statements that embroil him
> in instant controversy. He is putting the emphasis in stump speeches on
> reducing the age at which minors can be tried in criminal courts for
> serious offenses from 16 to 14.
>
> This appears to be what all the parties have in mind, in the wake of the
> public's disappointment at the failure of the regular Diet session, which
> ended June 2, not only to pass but even to discuss the widely heralded
> bill aimed at revising the Juvenile Law to better deal with the increase
> in youthful crimes of violence. As a result, the bill was scrapped.
>
> The present Juvenile Law, which came into effect in 1949, stresses the
> rehabilitation of young wrongdoers. The Family Court has jurisdiction
> over cases involving young people under 20. Serious cases involving
> youths 16 or older can be referred to prosecutors for handling in a
> criminal court, although until recently this has rarely occurred.
> Juveniles under the age of 14 who engage in acts that legally would be
> considered criminal offenses are referred to a special consultation
> office for children. But as the level of youthful violence has escalated,
> and the types of crimes perpetrated have become more serious, many people
> now believe the law is too lenient.
>
> Young people in Japan today certainly are more physically mature than
> their counterparts of half a century ago. They also are more
> sophisticated, thanks to rapid developments in mass communications and
> the influence of unsavory elements in the media. Whether they are more
> mature emotionally is debatable. Many are clever enough to admit, if
> challenged, that they are sometimes tempted into risky behavior by the
> knowledge that they will be treated lightly if they happen to get caught.
>
> If the youth of Japan are to be empowered to vote from the age of 18, a
> step many other nations have already taken, then it stands to reason that
> the Juvenile Law should be revised to apply to young people under that
> age. Before this is done, however, any proposed revisions must be
> discussed and debated in detail, with testimony provided by educators and
> law-enforcement officials. Voters should not allow politicians to fall
> back on hollow promises. Vague suggestions of cracking down on teenage
> criminal behavior do not solve the problem.
>
> The issue is not simply the age of the culprits. The larger question is
> why so many young people in this country now resort to violence so
> easily. A recent survey of male junior and senior high school students by
> the Management and Coordination Agency found that the older they are the
> more likely they are to consider physically attacking their parents or
> teachers. The National Police Agency has just reported that police
> throughout the nation arrested 31 male juveniles suspected of murder or
> attempted murder from the beginning of this year through the end of
> April, double the number in the same period of 1999.
>
> It is all too easy, however, to use the threat of severer punishments as
> a cure-all. Some youthful lawbreakers deserve and require time in
> juvenile reformatories, or possibly even in adult prisons. The motives
> for the violence and the warning signs that are often ignored by parents
> and teachers need to be considered. Too-hasty moves to incarcerate young
> miscreants with adult offenders will only succeed in turning more of them
> into hardened criminals.
>
> [Copyright - The Japan Times: June 20, 2000]
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:54:55 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: unused crib
>
> Not once her legs got long enough to...never mind, I'm sure you
> get the idea...
>
> <g>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 11:35, Holly Atchison wrote:
>
> That is so cute!!!
> 
> 
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:54:55 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: NPR Diane Rehm show 6/20/00 - Homeschooling!
>
> I just realised, I'm not going to be at home at this time anyway
> :-( D'you think it'll be archived or something?
>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 11:25, Holly Atchison wrote:
>
> If its on NPR it should be online because there are a
> lot of NPR stations 
> online
> 
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:04:06 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: unused crib
>
> It's not a mattress on a sprung or wooden base. The mattress
> itself is just fastened to legs, it's quite low that way. It also means
> that there's no frame to work around. You can get castors for
> them, but ours don't have them, I think they'd drift about a bit (and
> seeing as I'm the one closest to the gap...)
>
> HTH <G>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 22:24, bctswim@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 00-06-17 13:14:44 EDT, you write:
> 
> << We have two 3/4size beds from Ikea, the mattress
> with legs type, >>
> tracy,
> the mattress with legs type? huh? sounds useful but how
> does it work?
> bridget
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:10:14 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> A neighbour of mine told me that her daughter (who's 9mo) isn't all
> that interested in food. But she's stll being weaned off the breast :-(
>
> Tracy
>
> On 18 Jun 2000, at 12:35, CA Nelson wrote:
>
> > I'm so glad to hear that your last baby didn't start eating solids
> > until "late". Accalia doesn't have a huge interest in them, but it's
> > enough to satisfy the grandparents. I also miss those cute little baby
> > clothes :(.
> >
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:10:14 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: unused crib
>
> Oh, this is SO familiar! We sleep on our sides cos dd2 shunts up
> all night <g>
>
> Tracy
>
> On 18 Jun 2000, at 20:27, cen46624@... wrote:
>
> I'm meat too...we have ds (2.5) nominally in the
> sidecar, then me, then dd 
> (baby), then dh when he gets home about 2 or 3 am. Then
> the kids and I are up 
> around 6, so it's only that way for 3 hours or so, but
> we sleep on our side 
> all night anyway.
> 
> :-) Diane
> 
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:14:36 EDT
> From: marbleface@...
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> In a message dated 06/20/2000 2:00:15 AM !!!First Boot!!!, NumoAstro@...
> writes:
>
> << Feedback from you all would be great on how to allay my fears. >>
>
> Dawn --
>
> He's in preschool?
>
> So you could try it for a while and see how it works. Keep him home. Try
> doing a few things. We are going fishing today, for example.
>
> See if everyone likes it.
>
> Since you are used to being out there in the corp world (even tho from home)
> it may be an adjustment. And your son may miss his little play buddies.
> Maybe you could see how he adjusts and how you adjust.
>
> Then, in a year or 2, when K or 1st grade would be appropriate you could
> reassess.
>
> If you're having a ball (as I suspect) you could continue on and explore the
> world and guide when you think it's important and follow your son's interests
> when they take off and, this is big to me, get him a library card!, and turn
> your house into the same kind of mess I'm living in with books stacked
> everywhere (but we're happy).
>
> Or not. You could decide hsing just is not for you. You long for the more
> traditional, structured approach and think he would do better in school.
>
> Since you seem to care so much about doing the right thing, I'm sure you
> will. Whatever that turns out to be for you and yours.
>
> Good luck exploring.
>
> Nance
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Tracy Oldfield wrote:
>
> > A neighbour of mine told me that her daughter (who's 9mo) isn't all
> > that interested in food. But she's stll being weaned off the breast :-(
>
> to what? I guess she is going by the "if they get hungry enough they will
> eat" theory? I've never understood this desire to get kids eating solid
> food as then mom has to do more (and I try to do as little as possible).
> Plus, diapers are way yuckier. It was such an eye opener to me when my
> son got to the point where food became a staple for him and I suddently
> had to *think* about having snacks int he diaper bag and meals for him and
> such. For two years at least I didn't have to take food into
> consideration for him and my older, more verbal son was good at letting me
> know he needed to eat (which meant I really didn't have to think too much
> about that--see a pattern here?). This baby I'm hoping will not eat
> solids until he can fix his own;)
>
> dawn h-s
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:25:30 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: nicknames
>
> it depends, I guess. My nickname (which is my ICQ screen
> name) is Troggers, cos a friend at school had had a friend at the
> previous school called Tracy Hoggers, so she got called troggers,
> and so did I. Considering the stereotypes connected with 'Tracy'
> (or Tracey) and awful way it sounds out loud (especially with an
> accent) I had NO problem with this!
>
> Tracy
> PS, It always depends on the intent, I guess.
>
> On 19 Jun 2000, at 13:20, cen46624@... wrote:
>
> Hmmm....I'm seeing a pattern here. Nicknames assigned
> by family and others 
> who loves us are fun, and nicknames assigned by school
> peers tend not to be 
> fun.
> 
> :-) Diane
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:25:30 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: nicknames
>
> Heather used to be 'sweet-pea,' haven't used that for a while, and
> Abigail's 'Abi' anyway, but they're collectively known as the
> sprouts. I used to call abi 'sprout' and she'd say 'I'm not a sprout,
> I'm an Abi!'
>
> Tracy
>
> On 19 Jun 2000, at 12:45, bctswim@... wrote:
>
> in my house, the oldest is timosity(tim),christian is
> the bunny boy-jeremiah 
> is bingoand emma is bearcub or emmabean!
> bridget
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:27:43 EDT
> From: jowi3@...
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> Hi all!
> I just joined the group.
> I love reading the boards, and thought this would be fun too.
> Just thought I would introduce myself before I jumped in.
> Joanna
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:37:51 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> Sounds like a plan to me <g> No, I see no big push either. My
> nursed dd was just over 6mo when she wanted food, more as a
> social exercise than anything. She was sat in dd1's table-seat
> (one fo those clanp-on numbers) at the table in a house we were
> holidaying in, me, dh, our 2 kids, my il's and bil, bil's wife and dd.
> bil's dw said "Can anybody say 'where's my waitress???'" We
> got the hint then <g>
>
> I don't know, I didn't ask. It's hard enough being pro-
> breastfeeding when most folk one knows aint, without starting
> such discussions at parties...
>
> Tracy
>
> On 20 Jun 2000, at 5:20, dawn wrote:
>
> 
> to what?
> This baby I'm hoping will not eat
> solids until he can fix his own;)
> 
> dawn h-s
> 
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:40:54 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> Hi to all the newbies <g> I'm Tracy, I live in Yorkshire, England
> with my dh and 2 dd's, we work from home, we learn from home,
> we live at home. On the subject of reassuring folk, I've never had
> a problem with what my kids will learn. If it's interesting to them,
> and/or they need it for something, they'll learn it. But I know
> some folk need more structure in the way they live than I and
> that's fine. But kids have varying needs of structure too, and
> there's nothing wrong with them deciding that, too, IMO <G>
>
> Welcome all :-)
>
> Tracy
>
> On 20 Jun 2000, at 8:27, jowi3@... wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> I just joined the group.
> I love reading the boards, and thought this would be
> fun too.
> Just thought I would introduce myself before I jumped
> in.
> Joanna
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:46:19 EDT
> From: NumoAstro@...
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> Nance:
>
> Thanks for writing what you did. It made me feel sick to think of him in a
> traditional type of school or even being in school. Since I wrote this last
> night hubbie and I had a long talk way into the early hours and Zak is not
> going back to pre-school. Last night Zak told me a story about monsters and
> I asked him if he'd like to go to the library today to look for books on
> monsters and on the computer. He also suggested we could spend some time
> drawing and coloring monsters and then we could drive around the neighborhood
> (It's 110 here today in the desert) and look for them. I'm very open and
> willing to do this an I guess this is what unschooling is all about. The
> baby (9months) is exploring walking now anyway and seems quite entertained by
> his brother being here.
>
> I'll continue to be constantly concerned about both of them and "the right
> thing" but that's my Virgo perfectionism coming out (LOL)... (P.S. I'm an
> Astrologer)
>
> Thanks again
> Dawn F
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:20:10 EDT
> From: NumoAstro@...
> Subject: unschooling and home business
>
> Hi everyone:
>
> I like to hear from people who have their own business at home and unschool.
> How does that work for you. The logistics? My husband works outside the
> home and I have my own business which I work around the kids. However,
> anyone who has a business knows, the phone rings when it wants to and people
> want to talk to me when they want to. Do you schedule everything at night?
> Do you work when the other is home and available for the kids? Do you work
> only weekends? Does it only work if you both work out of the home? Do you
> involve the kids in the business? I've been thinking that these are also
> some concerns I have about how to balance both and not to hurt either.
>
> Dawn F
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:38:02 -0400
> From: Debra Caruso <mama@...>
> Subject: Re: unschooling and home business
>
> Hello!I run my own business and will be unschooling my youngest son age
> 12 come the fall.This will be a new challenge for me.When I homeschooled
> my 4 sons in the past,I didn't have a business,and that was a challenge
> enough.We shall see.I plan on having son help me!Debra in Va
> Mom to 4 sons...20,19,18,and 12
>
> NumoAstro@... wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> > I like to hear from people who have their own business at home and unschool.
> > How does that work for you. The logistics? My husband works outside the
> > home and I have my own business which I work around the kids. However,
> > anyone who has a business knows, the phone rings when it wants to and people
> > want to talk to me when they want to. Do you schedule everything at night?
> > Do you work when the other is home and available for the kids? Do you work
> > only weekends? Does it only work if you both work out of the home? Do you
> > involve the kids in the business? I've been thinking that these are also
> > some concerns I have about how to balance both and not to hurt either.
> >
> > Dawn F
> >
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What kind of business?

-----Original Message-----
From: Sherry Hagen [mailto:oilmagic@...]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 11:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] Digest Number 603


RE: Unschooling and homebase business

Hi folks,

My son is 6 years old and I have been doing my own business for over 4
years. He's gotten
kind of used to it. When I get a call I just tell him that it's a business
call and "most" of
the time he's patient. I also talk to folks sometimes when we are out and
about and I'm
looking for prospects, sometimes he does well, sometimes I slip him a
quarter for the nearby
gum ball machine. I do more of my serious work in the evening a few nights
a week when my
husband is home. I also keep in touch via e-mail to folks already with my
company or
interested in my company. Right now, I'm grabbing some time as my son is
playing with
neighbors in the back. I always have to be alert and ready to any change.
I also have to
make sure I make time for my family. It's also an interesting situation
when my son gets
really busy in the house and leaves "projects, creations" around the house,
when I'm not
looking and on the phone.

Sherry Hagen, Menominee, Upper Michigan

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> Topics in this digest:
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> 1. RE: unused crib-family bed
> From: "Brynn" <panchot@...>
> 2. Re: New Member Here
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> 3. slings
> From: Jennifer VanLaanen-Smit <jvanlaanen@...>
> 4. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> 5. Re: New Member Here
> From: "Trisha Sides" <yschild@...>
> 6. Re: slings
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> 7. Japanese editorial on crime by children
> From: Covert <[email protected]>
> 8. Re: unused crib
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 9. Re: NPR Diane Rehm show 6/20/00 - Homeschooling!
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 10. Re: unused crib
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 11. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 12. Re: unused crib
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 13. Re: New Member Here
> From: marbleface@...
> 14. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> 15. Re: nicknames
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 16. Re: nicknames
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 17. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: jowi3@...
> 18. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 19. Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> 20. Re: New Member Here
> From: NumoAstro@...
> 21. unschooling and home business
> From: NumoAstro@...
> 22. Re: unschooling and home business
> From: Debra Caruso <mama@...>
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:00:38 -0700
> From: "Brynn" <panchot@...>
> Subject: RE: unused crib-family bed
>
> Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bedThank you for the kind,
> supportive responses! It was so nice to read them. :-) I'll feel better
> tonight when Emily says, "I'm going to go to sleep by meself now mom"
after
> I'm done reading to her.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> Brynn
>
> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
> "Swing to the east, swing to the west
> Swing with the chicken that you love best
> Come on down & do the chicken squawk with me..."
> MDC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gayle Bechtel [mailto:jbabi@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 6:10 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed
>
> Brynn
> My second son is the same way - very independent. He will go and lay
down
> in his bed when he is tired(he is going to be 2 July 7th). My oldest (3
> 1/2) still likes someone to lay down with him, and he co-sleeps with his
> brother. They still get up and want someone in there at night sometimes -
> hubby gets that job. He enjoys it really. They are just different
children
> with different needs. My oldest though is more outgoing to strangers -
goes
> up to them and talks with them. My youngest will wander off and not even
> look back. So I am sure you are doing what is right but they just have
> different night time needs.
> Gayle
> From: CA Nelson
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Unschooling-dotcom] unused crib-family bed
>
> Brynn-
> I can imagine how said you feel when you're daughter is being so
> independent, but just think how wonderful it is that because you met all
of
> her attachment and security needs when she was an infant you gave her the
> self-confidence to do all of these things on her own. I wouldn't doubt
that
> your son might have been hanging on a bit longer because of those nights
in
> the crib, but every child is different. You just have to do what works
with
> each one, huh?
>
> --
> Amy Nelson
> Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
> "The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
>
> We had a family bed until about a year ago, my 9yods still LOVES to
> hop in
> bed with us. My beautiful 5yodd, HOWEVER, has been saying "can I go
> get in
>
> my bed?" for a long time.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:10:21 -0500
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> Dawn-
> Hi and welcome! I have some of the same questions and fears as you do
> when it comes to unschooling my one-year-old daughter. Sorry I don't have
> any advice for you, but just wanted to welcome you and let you know you're
> not alone with your thoughts.
>
> --
> Amy Nelson
> Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
> "The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
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> Message: 3
> Date: 19 Jun 00 16:14:51 HST
> From: Jennifer VanLaanen-Smit <jvanlaanen@...>
> Subject: slings
>
> I just began to get this list and wanted to say that I am enjoying it. As
for
> baby slings . . . I like the New Native style best. I have a page on my
> website that tells you how to make slings with sarongs and sheets. If you
are
> interested the site is www.naturalparenting.org.
>
> ~~Jennifer VanLaanen-Smit~~
> Domestic goddess, mother of three, nature sprite
> aka Mango Mama
> http://www.mangomama.org OR http://www.naturalparenting.org
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:38:44 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> > I don't know if it's a trend or what, but everyone I know with baby
boys
> > or toddlers just seems to grow em big and gorgeous :).
>
> well, he seems little to me:) and he is gorgeous (not that I'm biased or
> anything)
>
> > How old is your son again? We just took Accalia to the doctor for her
> > one-year checkup, and she weighed in at 20 lbs. 11 oz. and was 30 inches
> > long.
>
> he's 4 weeks tomorrow. amazing how time flies....
>
> dawn
>
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>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:39:01 CDT
> From: "Trisha Sides" <yschild@...>
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> Welcome Dawn!
> Keep reading this list it is wonderful and banishes my doubts daily. I
> have found ,in my experience that you do not have to entertain them
> constantly, in fact it's probably better if you don't, they become more
> creative when left to their own devices. I'm always amazed by what my son
> (age 6) comes up with on his own. Good luck.
> Trisha
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:57:56 -0500
> From: CA Nelson <acnelson@...>
> Subject: Re: slings
>
> Jennifer-
> I just want you to know that I love your site! I discovered it a while
> back and always recommend it to others for a variety of subjects.
>
> --
> Amy Nelson
> Mama to Accalia (6/14/99)
> "The hardest to learn was the least complicated." - The Indigo Girls
>
> I just began to get this list and wanted to say that I am enjoying it. As
> for
> baby slings . . . I like the New Native style best. I have a page on my
> website that tells you how to make slings with sarongs and sheets. If you
> are
> interested the site is www.naturalparenting.org.
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 00 12:34:39 +0900
> From: Covert <[email protected]>
> Subject: Japanese editorial on crime by children
>
> Hi folks,
>
> It's election time here in Japan, and you know what that means: more
> clouding of the real issues at hand, tons of promises, and little or no
> action taken to address the problems once all the noise is over.
>
> Following is a newspaper editorial in today's Japan Times newspaper that
> gives some idea of what those in official circles are thinking during
> this election campaign about child-related crime.
>
> I say "official circles" because despite its independent status, the
> Japan Times is well-known for historically having a very cozy
> relationship with the Japanese government. The paper has dutifully earned
> its reputation as the "mouthpiece" of Japan's Ministry of Foreign Affairs
> on just about every economic and political issue you can name. One of the
> newspaper's past presidents, Mr. Shintaro Fukushima, in fact, has
> formerly served as Japan's ambassador to the United Nations.
>
> But for what it's worth, here's the editorial. Not too surprisingly, the
> article never delves into the influence that Japan's oppressive school
> system has on the psyches of these so-called "young miscreants." Oh well,
> maybe in the next election....
>
> Now, if you'll excuse me, I hear a campaign soundtruck coming up the
> street, and I must go outside and get my daily dose of noise pollution.
<g>
>
> Brian Covert
> (KnoK NEWS)
> in Osaka, Japan
>
> ---------------------------
>
> EDITORIAL - The Japan Times
> Tuesday, June 20, 2000
>
> AGE IS NOT ALL THAT MATTERS
>
> With the volume favored by candidates' loudspeaker cars, it can be
> difficult to tell what issues they are addressing in the campaign leading
> up to Sunday's election for the House of Representatives. Both the ruling
> and opposition parties are engaging in the usual name-calling and
> sloganeering and not giving more than superficial attention to some of
> the main concerns of potential voters. One of these is the rising tide of
> juvenile violence that parents, school authorities and the police all
> seem powerless to control.
>
> A number of heinous incidents this year have all involved 17-year-olds.
> But as each day's news brings a fresh report of yet another case of
> youthful criminal behavior, the age level of the perpetrators has dropped
> to as low as 15 or even 14. Meanwhile, all the political parties are
> mainly concentrating on the idea of lowering the age at which young
> people legally become adults to 18 from the present 20. Prime Minister
> Yoshiro Mori, campaigning nationwide for the Liberal Democratic Party and
> its partners in the governing coalition, is having some success in
> controlling his tendency to make provocative statements that embroil him
> in instant controversy. He is putting the emphasis in stump speeches on
> reducing the age at which minors can be tried in criminal courts for
> serious offenses from 16 to 14.
>
> This appears to be what all the parties have in mind, in the wake of the
> public's disappointment at the failure of the regular Diet session, which
> ended June 2, not only to pass but even to discuss the widely heralded
> bill aimed at revising the Juvenile Law to better deal with the increase
> in youthful crimes of violence. As a result, the bill was scrapped.
>
> The present Juvenile Law, which came into effect in 1949, stresses the
> rehabilitation of young wrongdoers. The Family Court has jurisdiction
> over cases involving young people under 20. Serious cases involving
> youths 16 or older can be referred to prosecutors for handling in a
> criminal court, although until recently this has rarely occurred.
> Juveniles under the age of 14 who engage in acts that legally would be
> considered criminal offenses are referred to a special consultation
> office for children. But as the level of youthful violence has escalated,
> and the types of crimes perpetrated have become more serious, many people
> now believe the law is too lenient.
>
> Young people in Japan today certainly are more physically mature than
> their counterparts of half a century ago. They also are more
> sophisticated, thanks to rapid developments in mass communications and
> the influence of unsavory elements in the media. Whether they are more
> mature emotionally is debatable. Many are clever enough to admit, if
> challenged, that they are sometimes tempted into risky behavior by the
> knowledge that they will be treated lightly if they happen to get caught.
>
> If the youth of Japan are to be empowered to vote from the age of 18, a
> step many other nations have already taken, then it stands to reason that
> the Juvenile Law should be revised to apply to young people under that
> age. Before this is done, however, any proposed revisions must be
> discussed and debated in detail, with testimony provided by educators and
> law-enforcement officials. Voters should not allow politicians to fall
> back on hollow promises. Vague suggestions of cracking down on teenage
> criminal behavior do not solve the problem.
>
> The issue is not simply the age of the culprits. The larger question is
> why so many young people in this country now resort to violence so
> easily. A recent survey of male junior and senior high school students by
> the Management and Coordination Agency found that the older they are the
> more likely they are to consider physically attacking their parents or
> teachers. The National Police Agency has just reported that police
> throughout the nation arrested 31 male juveniles suspected of murder or
> attempted murder from the beginning of this year through the end of
> April, double the number in the same period of 1999.
>
> It is all too easy, however, to use the threat of severer punishments as
> a cure-all. Some youthful lawbreakers deserve and require time in
> juvenile reformatories, or possibly even in adult prisons. The motives
> for the violence and the warning signs that are often ignored by parents
> and teachers need to be considered. Too-hasty moves to incarcerate young
> miscreants with adult offenders will only succeed in turning more of them
> into hardened criminals.
>
> [Copyright - The Japan Times: June 20, 2000]
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:54:55 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: unused crib
>
> Not once her legs got long enough to...never mind, I'm sure you
> get the idea...
>
> <g>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 11:35, Holly Atchison wrote:
>
> That is so cute!!!
> 
> 
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:54:55 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: NPR Diane Rehm show 6/20/00 - Homeschooling!
>
> I just realised, I'm not going to be at home at this time anyway
> :-( D'you think it'll be archived or something?
>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 11:25, Holly Atchison wrote:
>
> If its on NPR it should be online because there are a
> lot of NPR stations 
> online
> 
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:04:06 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: unused crib
>
> It's not a mattress on a sprung or wooden base. The mattress
> itself is just fastened to legs, it's quite low that way. It also means
> that there's no frame to work around. You can get castors for
> them, but ours don't have them, I think they'd drift about a bit (and
> seeing as I'm the one closest to the gap...)
>
> HTH <G>
> Tracy
>
> On 17 Jun 2000, at 22:24, bctswim@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 00-06-17 13:14:44 EDT, you write:
> 
> << We have two 3/4size beds from Ikea, the mattress
> with legs type, >>
> tracy,
> the mattress with legs type? huh? sounds useful but how
> does it work?
> bridget
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:10:14 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> A neighbour of mine told me that her daughter (who's 9mo) isn't all
> that interested in food. But she's stll being weaned off the breast :-(
>
> Tracy
>
> On 18 Jun 2000, at 12:35, CA Nelson wrote:
>
> > I'm so glad to hear that your last baby didn't start eating solids
> > until "late". Accalia doesn't have a huge interest in them, but it's
> > enough to satisfy the grandparents. I also miss those cute little baby
> > clothes :(.
> >
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:10:14 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: unused crib
>
> Oh, this is SO familiar! We sleep on our sides cos dd2 shunts up
> all night <g>
>
> Tracy
>
> On 18 Jun 2000, at 20:27, cen46624@... wrote:
>
> I'm meat too...we have ds (2.5) nominally in the
> sidecar, then me, then dd 
> (baby), then dh when he gets home about 2 or 3 am. Then
> the kids and I are up 
> around 6, so it's only that way for 3 hours or so, but
> we sleep on our side 
> all night anyway.
> 
> :-) Diane
> 
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:14:36 EDT
> From: marbleface@...
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> In a message dated 06/20/2000 2:00:15 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
NumoAstro@...
> writes:
>
> << Feedback from you all would be great on how to allay my fears. >>
>
> Dawn --
>
> He's in preschool?
>
> So you could try it for a while and see how it works. Keep him home. Try
> doing a few things. We are going fishing today, for example.
>
> See if everyone likes it.
>
> Since you are used to being out there in the corp world (even tho from
home)
> it may be an adjustment. And your son may miss his little play buddies.
> Maybe you could see how he adjusts and how you adjust.
>
> Then, in a year or 2, when K or 1st grade would be appropriate you could
> reassess.
>
> If you're having a ball (as I suspect) you could continue on and explore
the
> world and guide when you think it's important and follow your son's
interests
> when they take off and, this is big to me, get him a library card!, and
turn
> your house into the same kind of mess I'm living in with books stacked
> everywhere (but we're happy).
>
> Or not. You could decide hsing just is not for you. You long for the
more
> traditional, structured approach and think he would do better in school.
>
> Since you seem to care so much about doing the right thing, I'm sure you
> will. Whatever that turns out to be for you and yours.
>
> Good luck exploring.
>
> Nance
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:20:42 -0700 (PDT)
> From: dawn <dawn@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, Tracy Oldfield wrote:
>
> > A neighbour of mine told me that her daughter (who's 9mo) isn't all
> > that interested in food. But she's stll being weaned off the breast :-(
>
> to what? I guess she is going by the "if they get hungry enough they will
> eat" theory? I've never understood this desire to get kids eating solid
> food as then mom has to do more (and I try to do as little as possible).
> Plus, diapers are way yuckier. It was such an eye opener to me when my
> son got to the point where food became a staple for him and I suddently
> had to *think* about having snacks int he diaper bag and meals for him and
> such. For two years at least I didn't have to take food into
> consideration for him and my older, more verbal son was good at letting me
> know he needed to eat (which meant I really didn't have to think too much
> about that--see a pattern here?). This baby I'm hoping will not eat
> solids until he can fix his own;)
>
> dawn h-s
>
> ________________________________________________________________________
> ________________________________________________________________________
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:25:30 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: nicknames
>
> it depends, I guess. My nickname (which is my ICQ screen
> name) is Troggers, cos a friend at school had had a friend at the
> previous school called Tracy Hoggers, so she got called troggers,
> and so did I. Considering the stereotypes connected with 'Tracy'
> (or Tracey) and awful way it sounds out loud (especially with an
> accent) I had NO problem with this!
>
> Tracy
> PS, It always depends on the intent, I guess.
>
> On 19 Jun 2000, at 13:20, cen46624@... wrote:
>
> Hmmm....I'm seeing a pattern here. Nicknames assigned
> by family and others 
> who loves us are fun, and nicknames assigned by school
> peers tend not to be 
> fun.
> 
> :-) Diane
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:25:30 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: nicknames
>
> Heather used to be 'sweet-pea,' haven't used that for a while, and
> Abigail's 'Abi' anyway, but they're collectively known as the
> sprouts. I used to call abi 'sprout' and she'd say 'I'm not a sprout,
> I'm an Abi!'
>
> Tracy
>
> On 19 Jun 2000, at 12:45, bctswim@... wrote:
>
> in my house, the oldest is timosity(tim),christian is
> the bunny boy-jeremiah 
> is bingoand emma is bearcub or emmabean!
> bridget
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:27:43 EDT
> From: jowi3@...
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> Hi all!
> I just joined the group.
> I love reading the boards, and thought this would be fun too.
> Just thought I would introduce myself before I jumped in.
> Joanna
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:37:51 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> Sounds like a plan to me <g> No, I see no big push either. My
> nursed dd was just over 6mo when she wanted food, more as a
> social exercise than anything. She was sat in dd1's table-seat
> (one fo those clanp-on numbers) at the table in a house we were
> holidaying in, me, dh, our 2 kids, my il's and bil, bil's wife and dd.
> bil's dw said "Can anybody say 'where's my waitress???'" We
> got the hint then <g>
>
> I don't know, I didn't ask. It's hard enough being pro-
> breastfeeding when most folk one knows aint, without starting
> such discussions at parties...
>
> Tracy
>
> On 20 Jun 2000, at 5:20, dawn wrote:
>
> 
> to what?
> This baby I'm hoping will not eat
> solids until he can fix his own;)
> 
> dawn h-s
> 
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:40:54 +0100
> From: "Tracy Oldfield" <tracy.oldfield@...>
> Subject: Re: Re:unschooling Fill in the blanks
>
> Hi to all the newbies <g> I'm Tracy, I live in Yorkshire, England
> with my dh and 2 dd's, we work from home, we learn from home,
> we live at home. On the subject of reassuring folk, I've never had
> a problem with what my kids will learn. If it's interesting to them,
> and/or they need it for something, they'll learn it. But I know
> some folk need more structure in the way they live than I and
> that's fine. But kids have varying needs of structure too, and
> there's nothing wrong with them deciding that, too, IMO <G>
>
> Welcome all :-)
>
> Tracy
>
> On 20 Jun 2000, at 8:27, jowi3@... wrote:
>
> Hi all!
> I just joined the group.
> I love reading the boards, and thought this would be
> fun too.
> Just thought I would introduce myself before I jumped
> in.
> Joanna
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:46:19 EDT
> From: NumoAstro@...
> Subject: Re: New Member Here
>
> Nance:
>
> Thanks for writing what you did. It made me feel sick to think of him in
a
> traditional type of school or even being in school. Since I wrote this
last
> night hubbie and I had a long talk way into the early hours and Zak is not
> going back to pre-school. Last night Zak told me a story about monsters
and
> I asked him if he'd like to go to the library today to look for books on
> monsters and on the computer. He also suggested we could spend some time
> drawing and coloring monsters and then we could drive around the
neighborhood
> (It's 110 here today in the desert) and look for them. I'm very open and
> willing to do this an I guess this is what unschooling is all about. The
> baby (9months) is exploring walking now anyway and seems quite entertained
by
> his brother being here.
>
> I'll continue to be constantly concerned about both of them and "the right
> thing" but that's my Virgo perfectionism coming out (LOL)... (P.S. I'm an
> Astrologer)
>
> Thanks again
> Dawn F
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:20:10 EDT
> From: NumoAstro@...
> Subject: unschooling and home business
>
> Hi everyone:
>
> I like to hear from people who have their own business at home and
unschool.
> How does that work for you. The logistics? My husband works outside the
> home and I have my own business which I work around the kids. However,
> anyone who has a business knows, the phone rings when it wants to and
people
> want to talk to me when they want to. Do you schedule everything at
night?
> Do you work when the other is home and available for the kids? Do you
work
> only weekends? Does it only work if you both work out of the home? Do
you
> involve the kids in the business? I've been thinking that these are also
> some concerns I have about how to balance both and not to hurt either.
>
> Dawn F
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:38:02 -0400
> From: Debra Caruso <mama@...>
> Subject: Re: unschooling and home business
>
> Hello!I run my own business and will be unschooling my youngest son age
> 12 come the fall.This will be a new challenge for me.When I homeschooled
> my 4 sons in the past,I didn't have a business,and that was a challenge
> enough.We shall see.I plan on having son help me!Debra in Va
> Mom to 4 sons...20,19,18,and 12
>
> NumoAstro@... wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone:
> >
> > I like to hear from people who have their own business at home and
unschool.
> > How does that work for you. The logistics? My husband works outside
the
> > home and I have my own business which I work around the kids. However,
> > anyone who has a business knows, the phone rings when it wants to and
people
> > want to talk to me when they want to. Do you schedule everything at
night?
> > Do you work when the other is home and available for the kids? Do you
work
> > only weekends? Does it only work if you both work out of the home? Do
you
> > involve the kids in the business? I've been thinking that these are
also
> > some concerns I have about how to balance both and not to hurt either.
> >
> > Dawn F
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