Fwd: OT sort of: About the Pearls' book /child abuse
eriksmama2001
This is about the Pearls' book so if you are not
interested delete now. I just thought some of you might like to
respond to
Amazon.com. So here it goes:
Michael & Debi Pearl problem. I have just finished their main
book, "To
Train Up a Child." It is the most evil, sickening book about
child-raising I have ever read. And all justified with Proverbs
verses.
Throughout the book, the Pearls recommend whipping *infants* and young
children on their bare skin. They do this for "obedience training,"
and
compare it to training a dog or mule to obtain "instant, unquestioning
obedience." They say ALL children need to be whipped with a "rod."
They call babies "tyrants" "terrorists" "whining, spoiled brats" and
"devious", with "criminal minds." According to the Pearls, babies are
determined to make parents' lives "as miserable as possible." And the
Pearls decry the "extraordinary ignorance of modern psychology."
This book is being sold at Amazon.com. Amazon removed Home School
Digest after we complained; let's try to do the same with "To Raise
Up a
Child!" Please take a moment to write a review of this book at:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=cm_rev_write_2/104-
118564
3-0904763?page=community/community-sign-in-
secure.html&response=tg/stores/de
tail/-/books/1892112000/customer-review-form&method=GET&return-url-
code=4&fr
om-url-code=6&store=books
Here are some talking points:
1) The Pearls recommend whipping infants only a few months old on
their
bare skin. They whip their own 4 month old (p.9). They recommend
whipping the bare skin of "every child" (p.2) for "Christians and
non-Christians" (p.5) and for "every transgression" (p.1). Parents
who
don't whip their babies into complete submission are portrayed as
indifferemt, lazy, careless and neglectful (p.19) and are "creating a
Nazi" (p.45).
2) On p.60 they recommend whipping babies who cannot sleep and are
crying, and to never allow them "to get up." On p.61 they recommend
whipping a 12 month old girl for crying. On p.79 they recommend
whipping a 7 month old for screaming.
3) On p.65 co-author Debi Pearl whips the bare leg of a 15 month old
she
is babysitting, 10 separate times, for not playing with something she
tells him to play with. On p.56 Debi Pearl hits a 2 your old so
hard "a
karate chop like wheeze came from somewhere deep inside" him.
4) On p.59 they recommend whipping a 3 year old until he is "totally
broken."
5) On p.44 they say not to let the child's crying while being hit to
"cause you to lighten up on the intensity or duration of the
spanking."
6) On p.55 the Pearls say a mother should hit her child if he cries
for her.
7) On p.80 they recommend giving a child having a tantrum "a swift
*forceful* spanking." On the same page they say to whip small
children
on their bare skin until they stop screaming. "Don't be bullied.
Give
him more of the same." They say to continue whipping until their
crying
turns into a "wounded, submissive whimper."
8) On p.46 the Pearls say that if a child does obey before being
whipped, whip them anyway. And "if you have to sit on him to spank
him,
then do not hesitate. And hold him there until he is surrendered.
Prove that you are bigger, tougher." "Defeat him totally."
9) On p.47 they recommend their various whips, including "a belt or
larger tree branch" to hit children.
10) The Pearls also recommend ignoring an infant's bumped head when he
falls to the floor, and ignoring skinned knees (p.86). They also say
"if your child is roughed-up by peers, rejoice." (p.81)
11) They recommend pulling a nursing infant's hair (p.7), tripping a
non-swimming toddler so she falls into deep water (p.67) and to make
children go hungry if they don't "like what is on the table" (p.103).
Also on p.103 they say that if children lose their shoes, "let them go
without until they (the children) can make the money to buy more."
The Pearls' methods have resulted in parents being investigated by
Child
Protective Services, and even a babysitter going to jail - see Amazon
reviews #13, 29, 43, 48, & 74:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/1892112000/ref=cm_rev_prev/104
-1185643-0904763?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews&show=-
submittime&start
-at=11
Please write a review! Here's the link for adding your review to
Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=cm_rev_write_2/104-
118564
3-0904763?opt=n&page=community/review-sign-in-
secure.html&response=tg/stores
/detail/-/books/1892112000/customer-review-form&method=GET&cont-
page=cm/sign
ed-in-continue&cont-type=add-rev&return-url-code=4&from-url-
code=6&st=books&
me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&vi=customer-review-form
Citing some of the above references will make your review more
powerful. And the whole book can be read on-line at:
http://city.hokkai.or.jp/~repent/EnglishPages/TrainUp.html
Getting this horrid "rod" book off Amazon would be super, and send a
great message to those parents who might be tempted to try whipping
their babies into total submission! People aren't even supposed to
treat their pets that way!
Thank you everyone!!
Susan Lawrence
http://stoptherod.net
http://parentininjesusfootsteps.org
"Punishment renders autonomy of conscience impossible." - Jean Piaget
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interested delete now. I just thought some of you might like to
respond to
Amazon.com. So here it goes:
>>Dear Friends,Thank you everyone for your thoughts and interest in working on the
Michael & Debi Pearl problem. I have just finished their main
book, "To
Train Up a Child." It is the most evil, sickening book about
child-raising I have ever read. And all justified with Proverbs
verses.
Throughout the book, the Pearls recommend whipping *infants* and young
children on their bare skin. They do this for "obedience training,"
and
compare it to training a dog or mule to obtain "instant, unquestioning
obedience." They say ALL children need to be whipped with a "rod."
They call babies "tyrants" "terrorists" "whining, spoiled brats" and
"devious", with "criminal minds." According to the Pearls, babies are
determined to make parents' lives "as miserable as possible." And the
Pearls decry the "extraordinary ignorance of modern psychology."
This book is being sold at Amazon.com. Amazon removed Home School
Digest after we complained; let's try to do the same with "To Raise
Up a
Child!" Please take a moment to write a review of this book at:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=cm_rev_write_2/104-
118564
3-0904763?page=community/community-sign-in-
secure.html&response=tg/stores/de
tail/-/books/1892112000/customer-review-form&method=GET&return-url-
code=4&fr
om-url-code=6&store=books
Here are some talking points:
1) The Pearls recommend whipping infants only a few months old on
their
bare skin. They whip their own 4 month old (p.9). They recommend
whipping the bare skin of "every child" (p.2) for "Christians and
non-Christians" (p.5) and for "every transgression" (p.1). Parents
who
don't whip their babies into complete submission are portrayed as
indifferemt, lazy, careless and neglectful (p.19) and are "creating a
Nazi" (p.45).
2) On p.60 they recommend whipping babies who cannot sleep and are
crying, and to never allow them "to get up." On p.61 they recommend
whipping a 12 month old girl for crying. On p.79 they recommend
whipping a 7 month old for screaming.
3) On p.65 co-author Debi Pearl whips the bare leg of a 15 month old
she
is babysitting, 10 separate times, for not playing with something she
tells him to play with. On p.56 Debi Pearl hits a 2 your old so
hard "a
karate chop like wheeze came from somewhere deep inside" him.
4) On p.59 they recommend whipping a 3 year old until he is "totally
broken."
5) On p.44 they say not to let the child's crying while being hit to
"cause you to lighten up on the intensity or duration of the
spanking."
6) On p.55 the Pearls say a mother should hit her child if he cries
for her.
7) On p.80 they recommend giving a child having a tantrum "a swift
*forceful* spanking." On the same page they say to whip small
children
on their bare skin until they stop screaming. "Don't be bullied.
Give
him more of the same." They say to continue whipping until their
crying
turns into a "wounded, submissive whimper."
8) On p.46 the Pearls say that if a child does obey before being
whipped, whip them anyway. And "if you have to sit on him to spank
him,
then do not hesitate. And hold him there until he is surrendered.
Prove that you are bigger, tougher." "Defeat him totally."
9) On p.47 they recommend their various whips, including "a belt or
larger tree branch" to hit children.
10) The Pearls also recommend ignoring an infant's bumped head when he
falls to the floor, and ignoring skinned knees (p.86). They also say
"if your child is roughed-up by peers, rejoice." (p.81)
11) They recommend pulling a nursing infant's hair (p.7), tripping a
non-swimming toddler so she falls into deep water (p.67) and to make
children go hungry if they don't "like what is on the table" (p.103).
Also on p.103 they say that if children lose their shoes, "let them go
without until they (the children) can make the money to buy more."
The Pearls' methods have resulted in parents being investigated by
Child
Protective Services, and even a babysitter going to jail - see Amazon
reviews #13, 29, 43, 48, & 74:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-
/1892112000/ref=cm_rev_prev/104
-1185643-0904763?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews&show=-
submittime&start
-at=11
Please write a review! Here's the link for adding your review to
Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/flex-sign-in/ref=cm_rev_write_2/104-
118564
3-0904763?opt=n&page=community/review-sign-in-
secure.html&response=tg/stores
/detail/-/books/1892112000/customer-review-form&method=GET&cont-
page=cm/sign
ed-in-continue&cont-type=add-rev&return-url-code=4&from-url-
code=6&st=books&
me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&vi=customer-review-form
Citing some of the above references will make your review more
powerful. And the whole book can be read on-line at:
http://city.hokkai.or.jp/~repent/EnglishPages/TrainUp.html
Getting this horrid "rod" book off Amazon would be super, and send a
great message to those parents who might be tempted to try whipping
their babies into total submission! People aren't even supposed to
treat their pets that way!
Thank you everyone!!
Susan Lawrence
http://stoptherod.net
http://parentininjesusfootsteps.org
"Punishment renders autonomy of conscience impossible." - Jean Piaget
This list will never be sold, rented, traded or given to anyone.
To unsubscribe from this list, or change the email address where you
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