Robin Stark

I would wholeheartedly recommend buying at least one of Holt's books to
have for those times when you fall into the "questioning" days.

I don't mind buying a couple of the books to keep for myself, but there are
so many that I don't know which ones I would want. I wanted to read them
first to see which ones were the most inspirational for me. Or maybe I
should just get the newsletter that comes out every other month? Any
opinions?


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Robin Stark

Lois Hoover

For anyone interested in Holt's books, our annual library sale is coming up
next week I think. They usually have one or two. They sell for around 10
cents. I'll let you all know if I find any this.

Lois


>From: Robin Stark <robinstark@...>
>
> I would wholeheartedly recommend buying at least one of Holt's books to
>have for those times when you fall into the "questioning" days.
>

A.Y.

I vote for the magazine. I love Holts books, but the magazines are a great
reference that you can keep forever. They are kinda like an email group
printed. Especially if you kids are a bit older than mine. I like Home ed.
Mag for my kids, seems younger somehow.
Ann

Robin Stark wrote:

> From: Robin Stark <robinstark@...>
>
> I would wholeheartedly recommend buying at least one of Holt's books to
> have for those times when you fall into the "questioning" days.
>
> I don't mind buying a couple of the books to keep for myself, but there are
> so many that I don't know which ones I would want. I wanted to read them
> first to see which ones were the most inspirational for me. Or maybe I
> should just get the newsletter that comes out every other month? Any
> opinions?
>
> - - - - - - - -
> Robin Stark
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Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall

OK OK, you convinced ME, anyway. So How do I get the magazine??

Nanci K.

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Home Education Magazine
PO Box 1083, Tanasket WA 98855
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e-mail: HEM@...
web site: http://www.home-ed-magazine.com
$20/year (6 issues), $36/2 years (12 issues). Free sample.

Growing Without Schooling
2269 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge MA 02140
Ph: 617-864-3100, Fax: 617-864-9235
E-mail: HoltGWS@...
web site: http://www.holtgws.com
$25/year (6 issues), $45/2 years (12 issues), $6 single issue.

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>-----Original Message-----
>
>From: Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall <tn-k4of5@...>
>
>OK OK, you convinced ME, anyway. So How do I get the magazine??
>
>Nanci K.
>

David Albert

Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall wrote:

> From: Thomas and Nanci Kuykendall <tn-k4of5@...>
>
> OK OK, you convinced ME, anyway. So How do I get the magazine??
>
> Nanci K.
>

Go to www.holtgws.com

David Albert

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My favorite Holt book is "Learning All the Time", about his learning to
play the cello after age 40. Homeschooling is for adults too, you
know. And, in my experience, there is no better learning experience for
a child than to watch an adult wrestle with a new subject or skill.
Give your kids a gift - take up a new activity yourself!

David Albert


Lois Hoover wrote:

> From: Lois Hoover <lhoover@...>
>
> For anyone interested in Holt's books, our annual library sale is
> coming up
> next week I think. They usually have one or two. They sell for around
> 10
> cents. I'll let you all know if I find any this.
>
> Lois
>
> >From: Robin Stark <robinstark@...>
> >
> > I would wholeheartedly recommend buying at least one of Holt's books
> to
> >have for those times when you fall into the "questioning" days.
> >
>
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Mark & Kristin Shields

Actually, that book is called "Never Too Late" (about playing the cello). "Learning All the Time" is the one that was published posthumously and is all about how younger kids learn. I recommend them both. If you become interested in his life, "A Life Worth Living" is fascinating too. John Holt's books are eloquent and I just couldn't stop at one.

Kristin

-----Original Message-----
From: David Albert <shantinik@...>

My favorite Holt book is "Learning All the Time", about his learning to
play the cello after age 40. Homeschooling is for adults too, you
know. And, in my experience, there is no better learning experience for
a child than to watch an adult wrestle with a new subject or skill.
Give your kids a gift - take up a new activity yourself!

David Albert

Helen

At 1:43 PM -0400 6/2/99, A.Y. wrote:
>I vote for the magazine. I love Holts books, but the magazines are a great
>reference that you can keep forever. They are kinda like an email group
>printed. Especially if you kids are a bit older than mine. I like Home ed.
>Mag for my kids, seems younger somehow.
>Ann

I'm curious about your last note there, Ann.

I've never thought of HEM as a magazine for kids, seems like the only
kid-oriented section is the penpals, whereas GWS is always soliciting
contributions from homeschooled kids about various topics... am I missing
something?

Helen
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A.Y.

Yeah Helen, that wasn't clear at all. I'll rephrase this..... Home Ed seems more
helpful to me in ideas and support for my younger children. GWS seems to deal
more with the older crowd.
I get both magazines, and save both, but right now with my kids preschool and
Kindergarten age I find more useful info in Home Ed. Does that make better
sense? I'm pretty tired tonight, so I might not have done any better. :)

Helen wrote:

> From: Helen <Helen@...>
>
> At 1:43 PM -0400 6/2/99, A.Y. wrote:
> >I vote for the magazine. I love Holts books, but the magazines are a great
> >reference that you can keep forever. They are kinda like an email group
> >printed. Especially if you kids are a bit older than mine. I like Home ed.
> >Mag for my kids, seems younger somehow.
> >Ann
>
> I'm curious about your last note there, Ann.
>
> I've never thought of HEM as a magazine for kids, seems like the only
> kid-oriented section is the penpals, whereas GWS is always soliciting
> contributions from homeschooled kids about various topics... am I missing
> something?
>
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Hee.... Hee.......
Been a crazy few weeks around here, and I can't seem to find my mind anywhere!

Helen wrote:

> From: Helen <Helen@...>
>
> At 10:56 PM -0400 6/3/99, A.Y. wrote:
> >From: "A.Y." <hooperck@...>
> >
> >Yeah Helen, that wasn't clear at all. I'll rephrase this..... Home Ed
> >seems more
> >helpful to me in ideas and support for my younger children. GWS seems to deal
> >more with the older crowd.
> >I get both magazines, and save both, but right now with my kids preschool and
> >Kindergarten age I find more useful info in Home Ed. Does that make better
> >sense? I'm pretty tired tonight, so I might not have done any better. :)
>
> ROFL! Okay, gotcha!
>
> Thanks for clarifying that.
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At 10:56 PM -0400 6/3/99, A.Y. wrote:
>From: "A.Y." <hooperck@...>
>
>Yeah Helen, that wasn't clear at all. I'll rephrase this..... Home Ed
>seems more
>helpful to me in ideas and support for my younger children. GWS seems to deal
>more with the older crowd.
>I get both magazines, and save both, but right now with my kids preschool and
>Kindergarten age I find more useful info in Home Ed. Does that make better
>sense? I'm pretty tired tonight, so I might not have done any better. :)

ROFL! Okay, gotcha!

Thanks for clarifying that.

Helen

Carol E. Burris

Helen,

I have kind of the same opinion of HEM that Ann expressed. My
kids are 19 and 16 and I stopped subscribing to HEM a couple of
years ago (around the time I got on line and discovered e-mail)
because it didn't seem to speak to where we were in our lives
anymore. It seemed to be mostly for parents with younger kids.
Of course, that's where most of the homeschooling families are,
especially those who are looking for help and support. It's
certainly true of my support group as well.

Just my opinion.

Carol

Helen

At 8:28 AM -0400 6/4/99, Carol E. Burris wrote:
>From: "Carol E. Burris" <excaliburris@...>
>
>Helen,
>
>I have kind of the same opinion of HEM that Ann expressed. My
>kids are 19 and 16 and I stopped subscribing to HEM a couple of
>years ago (around the time I got on line and discovered e-mail)
>because it didn't seem to speak to where we were in our lives
>anymore. It seemed to be mostly for parents with younger kids.
>Of course, that's where most of the homeschooling families are,
>especially those who are looking for help and support. It's
>certainly true of my support group as well.
>
>Just my opinion.
>
>Carol

I think it's an accurate assessment. GWS seemed to "grow up" with the core
group readership that supported it over the first 10-15 years. As those
people who regularly contributed articles, essays, interviews, etc. saw
their children growing into teenagers, they wrote about teens; and when
editor Susannah Sheffer decided to involve more kids in the writing (she
wrote a book about helping kids learn to write), the core group of kids she
contacted for articles remained much the same over the years, and as those
kids grew up, so did the content of GWS, so to speak.

Our own kids are 13-25 now, so the same might have happened with HEM easily
enough, but as you say, the bulk of the families looking for support and
encouragement have younger children. So we worked at selecting articles for
that audience in particular, including hiring columnists and editors with
younger kids while still working to maintain our position as the premier
magazine for homeschooling activists. I like to think we achieved some kind
of balance, with enough content for the experienced parents to stay
interested while serving that larger segment of our readership with younger
kids, but it's always a balancing act, and it's pretty hard to please all
of the people all of the time. We just give it our best shot and smile real
big when people tell us they love HEM. <s>

Helen
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