risk, danger and freedom WAS: Swimming and Unschooling - Anything to Share?
Lisa H
Pam wrote: <<we better understand the desire our kids have to take some risks in their lives.>>
Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when he saw second little girl without shoes.
While i smiled at the girls freedom to be themselves and explore life, i was saddened by the number of children who were there being controlled by their caretakers.
I think that inherent in unschooling is the willingness (and courage) to not follow the accepted norm and being controlled by other's definition of danger and risk.
Lisa H.
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Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when he saw second little girl without shoes.
While i smiled at the girls freedom to be themselves and explore life, i was saddened by the number of children who were there being controlled by their caretakers.
I think that inherent in unschooling is the willingness (and courage) to not follow the accepted norm and being controlled by other's definition of danger and risk.
Lisa H.
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Dawn Adams
Lisa H. writes:
Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when he saw second little girl without shoes.
Dawn (in NS)
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Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when he saw second little girl without shoes.
>>>>>>>>>>>I took my kids to a local playground a week or so ago and there were a few boys there, about 10 or 11 maybe. No parents but me. The boys had their sneakers off and Catherine saw this, figured that was how it was done and slipped hers off to play. A little while later I got curious and asked the boys why they weren't wearing their shoes and one replied that they slid a lot better down the slide without them and the round gravel felt really good on their socked feet. Very good reasons I thought. I can just imagine the mess a couple of controling parents might have made of that situation. A situation where all involved were happy, polite and having fun.
Dawn (in NS)
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Susan Gallien
Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
Dawn Adams wrote:
What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
Dawn Adams wrote:
> Lisa H. writes:
> Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when he saw second little girl without shoes.
>
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Have a Nice Day!
Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
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You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus comes to mind.
But my kids ran in barefeet even in winter. Sometimes I had to get after them to wear socks and shoes, just because they were having so much fun, they'd forget to come back in and then their feet were in agony.
But in summertime, I say go for it. I like being barefoot too, but I'm worried I'll step on a bee.
Kristen
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What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
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You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus comes to mind.
But my kids ran in barefeet even in winter. Sometimes I had to get after them to wear socks and shoes, just because they were having so much fun, they'd forget to come back in and then their feet were in agony.
But in summertime, I say go for it. I like being barefoot too, but I'm worried I'll step on a bee.
Kristen
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tjreynoso
I can tell you that in the Dominican Republic (where my family is
from) it is more about status than safety. Since it's such a poor
country, many kids run around barefoot because they can't afford
shoes. So if you have them, you wear them. It seems stupid but I
know that in the hispanic communtiy it's more about it being a sign
of poverty than about safety.
Tanya
--- In [email protected], "Dawn Adams"
<Wishbone@s...> wrote:
splinters, we just took them out). These kids at the park were still
in their socks however so I suppose a mom might worry about stains.
But who cares about sock bottoms and why does that outweigh the fun?
(or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because
the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a
perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their
shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench
where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy
at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and
then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes,
you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when
he saw second little girl without shoes.
from) it is more about status than safety. Since it's such a poor
country, many kids run around barefoot because they can't afford
shoes. So if you have them, you wear them. It seems stupid but I
know that in the hispanic communtiy it's more about it being a sign
of poverty than about safety.
Tanya
--- In [email protected], "Dawn Adams"
<Wishbone@s...> wrote:
>care. My MIL is scared of phantom glass and splinters (I remember
> I practically grew up in bare feet here in Canada so I don't
splinters, we just took them out). These kids at the park were still
in their socks however so I suppose a mom might worry about stains.
But who cares about sock bottoms and why does that outweigh the fun?
>parents?
> Dawn (in NS)
>
>
> Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
>
> What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American
>immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent
> Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
>
> Dawn Adams wrote:
>
> > Lisa H. writes:
> > Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6)
(or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because
the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a
perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their
shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench
where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy
at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and
then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes,
you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when
he saw second little girl without shoes.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Dawn Adams
I practically grew up in bare feet here in Canada so I don't care. My MIL is scared of phantom glass and splinters (I remember splinters, we just took them out). These kids at the park were still in their socks however so I suppose a mom might worry about stains. But who cares about sock bottoms and why does that outweigh the fun?
Dawn (in NS)
Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
Dawn Adams wrote:
Dawn (in NS)
Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
Dawn Adams wrote:
> Lisa H. writes:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when he saw second little girl without shoes.
Danielle Conger
Dunno. I'm a big barefoot gal, and I still vividly remember my uncle
screaming at my cousin for going barefoot. I thought he was sooo mean!
My kids all go barefoot all the time. I think people are nervous about
stepping on things like glass, splinters, rusty metal (which would require
that dreaded tetanus shot), hand/foot/mouth disease, bee stings, worms,
impetigo, ringworm, yadda, yadda. Both my mother and mil have made comments
about the kids going barefoot because we have a dog. Well, I grew up going
barefoot in a yard with a dog, so... I try to be really good about cleaning
up after the dog to reduce chances of picking up anything, but really I
think it just boils down to the fact that Americans live in a culture of
fear. *sigh* Everything has become dangerous because we hear fear mongering
news bits on it every night.
--Danielle
http://www.danielleconger.com/Homeschool/Welcomehome.html
screaming at my cousin for going barefoot. I thought he was sooo mean!
My kids all go barefoot all the time. I think people are nervous about
stepping on things like glass, splinters, rusty metal (which would require
that dreaded tetanus shot), hand/foot/mouth disease, bee stings, worms,
impetigo, ringworm, yadda, yadda. Both my mother and mil have made comments
about the kids going barefoot because we have a dog. Well, I grew up going
barefoot in a yard with a dog, so... I try to be really good about cleaning
up after the dog to reduce chances of picking up anything, but really I
think it just boils down to the fact that Americans live in a culture of
fear. *sigh* Everything has become dangerous because we hear fear mongering
news bits on it every night.
--Danielle
http://www.danielleconger.com/Homeschool/Welcomehome.html
Ann and Eric Yates
I've always wondered this myself. My DH is this way too.
I never wear shoes unless I have to! The first think I do when I get home is take off my shoes!
Needless to say, my kids hardly ever have shoes on, and can never find them when we need to go somewhere.
My DH puts his shoes on to walk around in the house!?
I've lived my whole life like this, and other then a few splinters never had a problem. My Mother who is 72 is also like this. In fact, she used to tell me she was part Indian because of that, and I believed her. (by the way she is still like this at 72)
Here's to bare toes!......
Ann
I never wear shoes unless I have to! The first think I do when I get home is take off my shoes!
Needless to say, my kids hardly ever have shoes on, and can never find them when we need to go somewhere.
My DH puts his shoes on to walk around in the house!?
I've lived my whole life like this, and other then a few splinters never had a problem. My Mother who is 72 is also like this. In fact, she used to tell me she was part Indian because of that, and I believed her. (by the way she is still like this at 72)
Here's to bare toes!......
Ann
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Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
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You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus comes to mind.
But my kids ran in barefeet even in winter. Sometimes I had to get after them to wear socks and shoes, just because they were having so much fun, they'd forget to come back in and then their feet were in agony.
But in summertime, I say go for it. I like being barefoot too, but I'm worried I'll step on a bee.
Kristen
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freedom. We could go into the library, grocery store and even sit at the drugstore
soda fountain barefoot. (And did, every chance we got, because these places were
the very first to be air-conditioned, when even our homes were not.) Oh, and
the movie theatre was air-conditioned and very popular then; I don't remember
anyone barefoot at the Saturday matinees, and I always had on shoes myself,
but it was mostly dark so who knows?
I had spectacular accidents while barefoot as a child in a culture
with that laid-back attitude toward kids and shoes. I don't mean mere bee stings,
although after a half-dozen you might think I would have put on shoes. <grin>
Seems like everybody had mosquito and chigger bites all over (not a barefoot
issue) but also ringworms were common, which I always understood came from
running around barefoot where animal feces had deposited the rascals. I can't
vouch for the truth of this, it wasn't something I ever looked into or
contracted myself -- we'd just hear our moms mention that so-and-so was being dosed for
worms again but what could you expect in the summer when everyone was
barefoot?
I had two real injuries stepping on metal and being carted off to the
emergency room to be stitched up (and yes, to get another tetanus shot.) A
rusty nail where you'd least expect it, and my grandmother's tin flower bed
border that I stepped backward onto (cutting my big toe to the bone) while washing
the car with a garden hose (a perfect time to be barefoot and great fun until
the blood started gushing!) I remember all the towels I soaked through in the
back seat and how much the numbing shots right in the wound hurt, and being
laid up on the couch with my foot propped up on pillows watching through the
big window while everyone else played outside, barefoot of course --
Also I was barefoot one time when three of us girls caught a horse
peacefully grazing in the back pasture. I was trying to hold him without benefit
of even a rope much less a bridle and reins, so we could climb on for a
barefoot-bareback ride, and got my foot broken when a hoof came down on it. I doubt
that shoes would have made much difference that time.
So there's plenty to worry about. You should see the size of the bugs
and lizards here, even in the garage and sometimes in the bathroom! But
nothing requires us to live terrified, in a tizzy, or to ruin everyone's fun. It is
what it is. And even in the South, the world is different now, The
all-barefoot, all-the-time world is gone but I don't think it's mainly because of fear
and spoilsport parenting. I'd guess that liability laws, the rise of the car
culture, and the South's population explosion have more to do with it.
For us personally, the air-conditioned house and unschooling has a lot
to do with why my kids -- now 8 and 14 -- never incurred any of these
barefoot ill effects, not even one bee sting. They do enjoy being in the grass
barefoot, but generally they don't spend nearly as much time outside as I did as a
child (we were always shooed outside but never shoed outside , LOL) JJ
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> You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get in aThe American South was all about small-town, red-clay barefoot
> tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus comes to
> mind.
>
> But my kids ran in barefeet even in winter. Sometimes I had to get after
> them to wear socks and shoes, just because they were having so much fun,
> they'd forget to come back in and then their feet were in agony.
>
> But in summertime, I say go for it. I like being barefoot too, but I'm
> worried I'll step on a bee.
>
>
freedom. We could go into the library, grocery store and even sit at the drugstore
soda fountain barefoot. (And did, every chance we got, because these places were
the very first to be air-conditioned, when even our homes were not.) Oh, and
the movie theatre was air-conditioned and very popular then; I don't remember
anyone barefoot at the Saturday matinees, and I always had on shoes myself,
but it was mostly dark so who knows?
I had spectacular accidents while barefoot as a child in a culture
with that laid-back attitude toward kids and shoes. I don't mean mere bee stings,
although after a half-dozen you might think I would have put on shoes. <grin>
Seems like everybody had mosquito and chigger bites all over (not a barefoot
issue) but also ringworms were common, which I always understood came from
running around barefoot where animal feces had deposited the rascals. I can't
vouch for the truth of this, it wasn't something I ever looked into or
contracted myself -- we'd just hear our moms mention that so-and-so was being dosed for
worms again but what could you expect in the summer when everyone was
barefoot?
I had two real injuries stepping on metal and being carted off to the
emergency room to be stitched up (and yes, to get another tetanus shot.) A
rusty nail where you'd least expect it, and my grandmother's tin flower bed
border that I stepped backward onto (cutting my big toe to the bone) while washing
the car with a garden hose (a perfect time to be barefoot and great fun until
the blood started gushing!) I remember all the towels I soaked through in the
back seat and how much the numbing shots right in the wound hurt, and being
laid up on the couch with my foot propped up on pillows watching through the
big window while everyone else played outside, barefoot of course --
Also I was barefoot one time when three of us girls caught a horse
peacefully grazing in the back pasture. I was trying to hold him without benefit
of even a rope much less a bridle and reins, so we could climb on for a
barefoot-bareback ride, and got my foot broken when a hoof came down on it. I doubt
that shoes would have made much difference that time.
So there's plenty to worry about. You should see the size of the bugs
and lizards here, even in the garage and sometimes in the bathroom! But
nothing requires us to live terrified, in a tizzy, or to ruin everyone's fun. It is
what it is. And even in the South, the world is different now, The
all-barefoot, all-the-time world is gone but I don't think it's mainly because of fear
and spoilsport parenting. I'd guess that liability laws, the rise of the car
culture, and the South's population explosion have more to do with it.
For us personally, the air-conditioned house and unschooling has a lot
to do with why my kids -- now 8 and 14 -- never incurred any of these
barefoot ill effects, not even one bee sting. They do enjoy being in the grass
barefoot, but generally they don't spend nearly as much time outside as I did as a
child (we were always shooed outside but never shoed outside , LOL) JJ
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Mary
From: <jrossedd@...>
<< but also ringworms were common, which I always understood came from
running around barefoot where animal feces had deposited the rascals. I
can't
vouch for the truth of this, it wasn't something I ever looked into or
contracted myself -- we'd just hear our moms mention that so-and-so was
being dosed for
worms again but what could you expect in the summer when everyone was
barefoot?>>
Just to clear something up so more people aren't barefootaphobic!
Ringworm is NOT worms. It's a fungus. If you get it on your feet, that's
athlete's foot. You can get it from skin to skin contact with infected
people or animals. From contact of a surface infected by same or very
rarely, from the dirt. It's really not a big deal when you get it and can be
cleared up quite easily nowadays.
Mary B
<< but also ringworms were common, which I always understood came from
running around barefoot where animal feces had deposited the rascals. I
can't
vouch for the truth of this, it wasn't something I ever looked into or
contracted myself -- we'd just hear our moms mention that so-and-so was
being dosed for
worms again but what could you expect in the summer when everyone was
barefoot?>>
Just to clear something up so more people aren't barefootaphobic!
Ringworm is NOT worms. It's a fungus. If you get it on your feet, that's
athlete's foot. You can get it from skin to skin contact with infected
people or animals. From contact of a surface infected by same or very
rarely, from the dirt. It's really not a big deal when you get it and can be
cleared up quite easily nowadays.
Mary B
J. Stauffer
<<<What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
Julie S.---Born and Bred in the USA whose Danny just went grocery shopping
barefoot
>When y'all figure it out, please let me know?
> Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]>>>>
Julie S.---Born and Bred in the USA whose Danny just went grocery shopping
barefoot
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From: "Susan Gallien" <susan@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion]bare feet WAS: risk, danger and freedom
> Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.
>
> What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?
>
> Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the USA]
>
> Dawn Adams wrote:
>
> > Lisa H. writes:
> > Yesterday the girls I took to the playground (4 & 6) immediately took
off their shoes. As this was happening a parent (or possibly nanny) was
telling a 2yo to keep her shoes on because the wood chips are sharp and
could give her booboos. The 2yo had a perplexed look on her face as she
watched the two girls taking their shoes off while i gladly collected them
and put them under the bench where i sat. Later as my dd was climbing up
the slide a little boy at the top cried out angrily, "you are not allowed to
do that" and then when noticing her bare feet repeated, "you have to wear
shoes, you are not allowed to do that." Poor kid was totally confused when
he saw second little girl without shoes.
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On May 7, 2004, at 5:54 AM, Susan Gallien wrote:
life - I remember many summers that I never put ON a pair of shoes the
whole summer. For my husband, growing up poor in a town with no paved
streets, no running water, no electricity, etc., not wearing shoes was
a sign of being too poor to wear out your shoes by wearing them to play
in and he's embarrassed by it. He had to get over it and, even now,
he'll say, "Put on your shoes," when the kids or I are headed out the
door.
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> What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents?How funny!! I'm American, my dh is Iranian. I went barefoot my whole
life - I remember many summers that I never put ON a pair of shoes the
whole summer. For my husband, growing up poor in a town with no paved
streets, no running water, no electricity, etc., not wearing shoes was
a sign of being too poor to wear out your shoes by wearing them to play
in and he's embarrassed by it. He had to get over it and, even now,
he'll say, "Put on your shoes," when the kids or I are headed out the
door.
-pam
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moonwindstarsky
there's an organization called "the Barefoot Society" - you can find
it on google
--- In [email protected], "Ann and Eric Yates"
<hooperck@a...> wrote:
fact, she used to tell me she was part Indian because of that, and I
believed her. (by the way she is still like this at 72)
sharp. Tetanus comes to mind.
having so much fun, they'd forget to come back in and then their
feet were in agony.
it on google
--- In [email protected], "Ann and Eric Yates"
<hooperck@a...> wrote:
> I've always wondered this myself. My DH is this way too.get home is take off my shoes!
> I never wear shoes unless I have to! The first think I do when I
> Needless to say, my kids hardly ever have shoes on, and can neverfind them when we need to go somewhere.
> My DH puts his shoes on to walk around in the house!?never had a problem. My Mother who is 72 is also like this. In
>
> I've lived my whole life like this, and other then a few splinters
fact, she used to tell me she was part Indian because of that, and I
believed her. (by the way she is still like this at 72)
>and freedom
> Here's to bare toes!......
> Ann
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> What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American
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> Sue [born in England, grew up in Australia, confused in the
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> *******************
>
> You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I
sharp. Tetanus comes to mind.
>to get after them to wear socks and shoes, just because they were
> But my kids ran in barefeet even in winter. Sometimes I had
having so much fun, they'd forget to come back in and then their
feet were in agony.
>too, but I'm worried I'll step on a bee.
> But in summertime, I say go for it. I like being barefoot
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Marjorie Kirk
Just to clear something up so more people aren't barefootaphobic!
Ringworm is NOT worms. It's a fungus. If you get it on your feet, that's
athlete's foot. You can get it from skin to skin contact with infected
people or animals. From contact of a surface infected by same or very
rarely, from the dirt. It's really not a big deal when you get it and can be
cleared up quite easily nowadays.
Mary B
I wonder if some people are confusing ringworm with pin worms, which are
real worms. They are transmitted via the fecal-oral route, and may be
contracted by contact with feces.
Marjorie
Ringworm is NOT worms. It's a fungus. If you get it on your feet, that's
athlete's foot. You can get it from skin to skin contact with infected
people or animals. From contact of a surface infected by same or very
rarely, from the dirt. It's really not a big deal when you get it and can be
cleared up quite easily nowadays.
Mary B
I wonder if some people are confusing ringworm with pin worms, which are
real worms. They are transmitted via the fecal-oral route, and may be
contracted by contact with feces.
Marjorie
Susan Gallien
The worse experience I had from stepping on something was when I stood
on a nail sticking three inches up out of a piece of wood... I had
shoes on at the time and they had very hard soles, but the nail went
right through and with the speed it gained as it finally pierced the
shoe it went right through my foot too. I'm certain that if I was
barefoot it wouldn't have penetrated so far and it would have been
easier to extract.
Though bees are what makes me wear shoes in the summer time now,
especially since I'm allergic to bee stings....
Sue
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on a nail sticking three inches up out of a piece of wood... I had
shoes on at the time and they had very hard soles, but the nail went
right through and with the speed it gained as it finally pierced the
shoe it went right through my foot too. I'm certain that if I was
barefoot it wouldn't have penetrated so far and it would have been
easier to extract.
Though bees are what makes me wear shoes in the summer time now,
especially since I'm allergic to bee stings....
Sue
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My barefoot brother stepped on a spike that was sticking out of a board when
we were kids and it came out top of his foot. It was really gross.(We were
tearing down an old barn at the time. We were always barefoot.) My kids
are welcome to go barefoot in the summer, but we do have thistles and after
stepping on a couple, the kids generally prefer to wear sandals when they
are running around in the grass. There are no stopping the thistles as we
live downwind from a farm where they grow rampant. When Clement Moore wrote
"and away they all flew, like the down of a thistle" he wasn't kidding.
Those little fluffies fly like snow in a blizzard across the sheep pasture
next to our house only to germinate and grow on our lawn. I wouldn't trade
the farm next door for a thistle free lawn though.
Angela
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Sue wrote:
The worse experience I had from stepping on something was when I stood
on a nail sticking three inches up out of a piece of wood...
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we were kids and it came out top of his foot. It was really gross.(We were
tearing down an old barn at the time. We were always barefoot.) My kids
are welcome to go barefoot in the summer, but we do have thistles and after
stepping on a couple, the kids generally prefer to wear sandals when they
are running around in the grass. There are no stopping the thistles as we
live downwind from a farm where they grow rampant. When Clement Moore wrote
"and away they all flew, like the down of a thistle" he wasn't kidding.
Those little fluffies fly like snow in a blizzard across the sheep pasture
next to our house only to germinate and grow on our lawn. I wouldn't trade
the farm next door for a thistle free lawn though.
Angela
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Sue wrote:
The worse experience I had from stepping on something was when I stood
on a nail sticking three inches up out of a piece of wood...
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<litlrooh@e...> wrote:
I dunno, maybe having a kid like me? I've stepped on broken glass,
nails, pins, needles, rusty cans, burning cigarettes, bees, fish
hooks, and spiders. My parents took me to the ER so many times, I
think I knew all the staff by name. The worst was a curved
sailmaker's needle. It snapped off in my foot, stuck into the bone,
and required surgery to remove.
The thing is though, if a person wants to go barefoot, it's darned
hard to stop them. My folks tried with me. I guess if all those
painful consequences didn't stop me, pretty much nothing would. My
kids go barefoot a lot too. I try to just give them information about
when it might be a good time to put on shoes, and hope they have
better luck than I have.
Barefoot mama to two barefootin' kids...
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
<litlrooh@e...> wrote:
> Please help me here.... I'm totally confused.parents?
>
> What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American
I dunno, maybe having a kid like me? I've stepped on broken glass,
nails, pins, needles, rusty cans, burning cigarettes, bees, fish
hooks, and spiders. My parents took me to the ER so many times, I
think I knew all the staff by name. The worst was a curved
sailmaker's needle. It snapped off in my foot, stuck into the bone,
and required surgery to remove.
The thing is though, if a person wants to go barefoot, it's darned
hard to stop them. My folks tried with me. I guess if all those
painful consequences didn't stop me, pretty much nothing would. My
kids go barefoot a lot too. I try to just give them information about
when it might be a good time to put on shoes, and hope they have
better luck than I have.
Barefoot mama to two barefootin' kids...
Blue Skies,
-Robin-
Dawn Adams
Danielle writes:
My kids all go barefoot all the time. I think people are nervous about
stepping on things like glass, splinters, rusty metal (which would require
that dreaded tetanus shot), hand/foot/mouth disease, bee stings, worms,
impetigo, ringworm, yadda, yadda
Dawn (in NS)
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My kids all go barefoot all the time. I think people are nervous about
stepping on things like glass, splinters, rusty metal (which would require
that dreaded tetanus shot), hand/foot/mouth disease, bee stings, worms,
impetigo, ringworm, yadda, yadda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ringworm! My daughter has a nice patch on her leg from our MIL's cat...and, last night while brushing her hair for a family gathering I spotted egg casings. She has lice. Nobody else does thank goodness. I can't believe it, my little darling is host to parasites and fungi (she thought having bugs in her hair was a neat idea). I thought we'd avoid lice by homeschooling, of course I forgot I'd have to make them into hermits to avoid neighbourhood kids. Argh. Sorry about the sidetrack but I needed a small whine. :)
Dawn (in NS)
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Dawn Adams
JJ writes:
but also ringworms were common, which I always understood came from
running around barefoot where animal feces had deposited the rascals
Dawn (in NS)
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but also ringworms were common, which I always understood came from
running around barefoot where animal feces had deposited the rascals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rascals? My daughter has a patch of ringworm and from what I've read it's a fungal infection. Maybe what's called ringworm here isn't ringworm there?
Dawn (in NS)
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Libby Morgan
I love to walk barefoot to but only in the house
outside I worry about bee's I have a serious allergic
reaction to them. My boys run barefoot all the time,
usually in the back yard. they have never asked about
the park and we don't have wood chips its ground up
tires and it feels great on the foot( nice and soft to
fall on).
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outside I worry about bee's I have a serious allergic
reaction to them. My boys run barefoot all the time,
usually in the back yard. they have never asked about
the park and we don't have wood chips its ground up
tires and it feels great on the foot( nice and soft to
fall on).
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wrote:
> Dunno. I'm a big barefoot gal, and I still vividlyhttp://www.danielleconger.com/Homeschool/Welcomehome.html
> remember my uncle
> screaming at my cousin for going barefoot. I thought
> he was sooo mean!
>
> My kids all go barefoot all the time. I think people
> are nervous about
> stepping on things like glass, splinters, rusty
> metal (which would require
> that dreaded tetanus shot), hand/foot/mouth disease,
> bee stings, worms,
> impetigo, ringworm, yadda, yadda. Both my mother and
> mil have made comments
> about the kids going barefoot because we have a dog.
> Well, I grew up going
> barefoot in a yard with a dog, so... I try to be
> really good about cleaning
> up after the dog to reduce chances of picking up
> anything, but really I
> think it just boils down to the fact that Americans
> live in a culture of
> fear. *sigh* Everything has become dangerous because
> we hear fear mongering
> news bits on it every night.
>
> --Danielle
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Dawn,
You can treat lice without putting harmful chemicals on your DD's
scalp. Mothering magazine had a fantastic article on it a few years
back and I kept the issue, but they also have the article online at
http://mothering.com/10-0-0/html/10-2-0/10-2-confessions92.shtml
Coincidentally, the day after this issue arrived in my mailbox, my next
door neighbor called me all freaked out because her younger DD had
gotten lice and they had used 3 of those Rid kits and the lice were
still there, but her poor DD's scalp was so damaged that she just
couldn't put another dose of it on her. I gave her the article and a
bottle of olive oil right then and it did the trick. Another friend's
child got lice a few months back and they tried this too (without using
Rid at all) and it worked for them too.
Good luck! :)
-Tracy-
You can treat lice without putting harmful chemicals on your DD's
scalp. Mothering magazine had a fantastic article on it a few years
back and I kept the issue, but they also have the article online at
http://mothering.com/10-0-0/html/10-2-0/10-2-confessions92.shtml
Coincidentally, the day after this issue arrived in my mailbox, my next
door neighbor called me all freaked out because her younger DD had
gotten lice and they had used 3 of those Rid kits and the lice were
still there, but her poor DD's scalp was so damaged that she just
couldn't put another dose of it on her. I gave her the article and a
bottle of olive oil right then and it did the trick. Another friend's
child got lice a few months back and they tried this too (without using
Rid at all) and it worked for them too.
Good luck! :)
-Tracy-
Elizabeth Hill
** You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get
in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus
comes to mind.**
I've found broken glass several times at parks and school playgrounds in
SF Bay Area cities. But the most extreme "tizzying" might come from
people who think that there might be hypodermic needles discarded on the
ground. It doesn't seem likely to me, but for those who think it is
possible it might be terrifying.
Betsy
in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus
comes to mind.**
I've found broken glass several times at parks and school playgrounds in
SF Bay Area cities. But the most extreme "tizzying" might come from
people who think that there might be hypodermic needles discarded on the
ground. It doesn't seem likely to me, but for those who think it is
possible it might be terrifying.
Betsy
Backstrom kelli
I know for us here that I searched high and low for a comprimise for my little ones so that they could protect their feet. Still four years after moving into our house I am finding glass in my back yard! And huge chunks of it too. I think it is becuase our house is over 100 years old and it used to be used for a compost or something. So what I did is took them to Target and had them pick out something that might not feel like shoes in the summer, that they could go in and out of the pool in and stuff and they all chose to get matching watershoes for the backyard. It works over here. Kelli
Elizabeth Hill <ecsamhill@...> wrote:** You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get
in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus
comes to mind.**
I've found broken glass several times at parks and school playgrounds in
SF Bay Area cities. But the most extreme "tizzying" might come from
people who think that there might be hypodermic needles discarded on the
ground. It doesn't seem likely to me, but for those who think it is
possible it might be terrifying.
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Elizabeth Hill <ecsamhill@...> wrote:** You know what, I'm not really sure. Most of the parents I know get
in a tizzy because their kids might "step on something" sharp. Tetanus
comes to mind.**
I've found broken glass several times at parks and school playgrounds in
SF Bay Area cities. But the most extreme "tizzying" might come from
people who think that there might be hypodermic needles discarded on the
ground. It doesn't seem likely to me, but for those who think it is
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From: "Dawn Adams" <Wishbone@...>
<<Ringworm! My daughter has a nice patch on her leg from our MIL's
cat...and, last night while brushing her hair for a family gathering I
spotted egg casings. She has lice. Nobody else does thank goodness. I can't
believe it, my little darling is host to parasites and fungi (she thought
having bugs in her hair was a neat idea). I thought we'd avoid lice by
homeschooling, of course I forgot I'd have to make them into hermits to
avoid neighbourhood kids. Argh. Sorry about the sidetrack but I needed a
small whine. :)>>
Oh yuck!! It's actually pretty funny about the part about liking bugs in her
head!! LOL! I've dealt with ringworm with myself and with Tara. Never had a
lice thing to deal with though. Never wanted it either. I thought for sure
Tara would end up with it because in elementary school, they were sending
home notices and checking kids at least once a month. Just thinking about it
gives me the creeps!
Mary B
<<Ringworm! My daughter has a nice patch on her leg from our MIL's
cat...and, last night while brushing her hair for a family gathering I
spotted egg casings. She has lice. Nobody else does thank goodness. I can't
believe it, my little darling is host to parasites and fungi (she thought
having bugs in her hair was a neat idea). I thought we'd avoid lice by
homeschooling, of course I forgot I'd have to make them into hermits to
avoid neighbourhood kids. Argh. Sorry about the sidetrack but I needed a
small whine. :)>>
Oh yuck!! It's actually pretty funny about the part about liking bugs in her
head!! LOL! I've dealt with ringworm with myself and with Tara. Never had a
lice thing to deal with though. Never wanted it either. I thought for sure
Tara would end up with it because in elementary school, they were sending
home notices and checking kids at least once a month. Just thinking about it
gives me the creeps!
Mary B
Penn Acres
There are a couple of "common" animal (dog feces) parasites that remain in the soil. These are usually problems in hot climates where there is not enough frost to kill them.
Hookworm is a common one. Roundworms is another.
These woud be commonly spread to small children or other people who sit on the ground where dogs spend their time and defecate. Usually the form of contamination would be from putting "things" in their mouths that had been in /on the ground.
Toys, soothers/baby bottles, fingers, dropped food. unwashed garden produce.The eggs develop in the soil and will live in the human body feeding in the human intestines
Roundworms are not usually as big a problem to the human system but are very common in puppies and kittens and the adult form is commonly seen in unwormed puppies.
Other parasites can be spread by cats using childrens sand boxes as litter boxes.
The most at risk are young children who put soil and toys in their mouths.
Bare skin -feet or otherwise in itself would not be a risk factor.
Regular pet worming and removable of pet feces works but people should be aware of the "stray"cat problem around kids sand boxes.
On the other hand fresh cow manure from cows on pasture can have an antibacterial effect and was often used as a "poultice".
The fact that dewormers have become so popular and that there is more awareness of sanitation has made a huge difference.
The girls riding instructor and I were noting just yesterday that we dont usually see Bot Fly eggs on horses any more now that Ivermec is so commonly used as a horse dewormer. It gets the larval stage that used to be missed by other dewormers.
That used to be pretty gross at one of the developmental stages LOL
I spent most summers as a kid never wearing shoes in our northern ontario rural area. I remember my Dad bitching about it spreading our feet as I could never fit my shoes in the fall and he had to fork out all of $5 to buy more. Reality about kids was never his strong point.
grace
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Hookworm is a common one. Roundworms is another.
These woud be commonly spread to small children or other people who sit on the ground where dogs spend their time and defecate. Usually the form of contamination would be from putting "things" in their mouths that had been in /on the ground.
Toys, soothers/baby bottles, fingers, dropped food. unwashed garden produce.The eggs develop in the soil and will live in the human body feeding in the human intestines
Roundworms are not usually as big a problem to the human system but are very common in puppies and kittens and the adult form is commonly seen in unwormed puppies.
Other parasites can be spread by cats using childrens sand boxes as litter boxes.
The most at risk are young children who put soil and toys in their mouths.
Bare skin -feet or otherwise in itself would not be a risk factor.
Regular pet worming and removable of pet feces works but people should be aware of the "stray"cat problem around kids sand boxes.
On the other hand fresh cow manure from cows on pasture can have an antibacterial effect and was often used as a "poultice".
The fact that dewormers have become so popular and that there is more awareness of sanitation has made a huge difference.
The girls riding instructor and I were noting just yesterday that we dont usually see Bot Fly eggs on horses any more now that Ivermec is so commonly used as a horse dewormer. It gets the larval stage that used to be missed by other dewormers.
That used to be pretty gross at one of the developmental stages LOL
I spent most summers as a kid never wearing shoes in our northern ontario rural area. I remember my Dad bitching about it spreading our feet as I could never fit my shoes in the fall and he had to fork out all of $5 to buy more. Reality about kids was never his strong point.
grace
in the grey and damp BC Rockies where I get to play in the sewing room today for the first time in a week. Yayyy.
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In a message dated 5/7/2004 11:00:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
danielle.conger@... writes:
only had to soak my foot in soapy water every day for 10 days or two weeks (I
forget which, now) for a half hour. After about the second day (I had the
choice of the shot or the soaking), I wished I had gotten the shot, because it
took so much time out of my playing every day! <g>
Peace,
Sang
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danielle.conger@... writes:
> (which would requireActually, that's not nessesarily true-I stepped on a rusty nail as a kid and
> that dreaded tetanus shot),
only had to soak my foot in soapy water every day for 10 days or two weeks (I
forget which, now) for a half hour. After about the second day (I had the
choice of the shot or the soaking), I wished I had gotten the shot, because it
took so much time out of my playing every day! <g>
Peace,
Sang
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Tina
Dawn
We went down the lice road MANY times when our kids were younger and
in public elementary school. It was horrible! We tried EVERYTHING!
The only thing that we found to work was constant "picking" and olive
oil. The olive oil is great because when you find a bug you can put
the bug in the oil, and they die instantly.
The most important thing is to use a flushable cloth while pulling
eggs and bugs from the hair. Put them all in the cloth and flush
when you are done. You can put the oil on the hair, and you don't
have to worry about harming your child. It does help to eliminate
the bugs, but you MUST constantly pick through the hair.
I can't stress enough how important it is to pick thoroughly through
the hair. Keep checking their heads daily for a week or two. It's
SO EASY to miss just one egg, and then the process starts all over
again. It's a terrible chore! Oh, another helpful hint is to look
through their hair outside. You don't have to worry about dropping
any on the floor, and it's WAY easier to see in the sunlight.
I wish you the best of luck in this pain in the neck, literally,
situation. We have seven kids, five girls that all had long hair.
It's been years since we've been through it, but I still have the
messed up fingertips to prove it. I feel for you...
Tina
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<treegoddess@c...> wrote:
We went down the lice road MANY times when our kids were younger and
in public elementary school. It was horrible! We tried EVERYTHING!
The only thing that we found to work was constant "picking" and olive
oil. The olive oil is great because when you find a bug you can put
the bug in the oil, and they die instantly.
The most important thing is to use a flushable cloth while pulling
eggs and bugs from the hair. Put them all in the cloth and flush
when you are done. You can put the oil on the hair, and you don't
have to worry about harming your child. It does help to eliminate
the bugs, but you MUST constantly pick through the hair.
I can't stress enough how important it is to pick thoroughly through
the hair. Keep checking their heads daily for a week or two. It's
SO EASY to miss just one egg, and then the process starts all over
again. It's a terrible chore! Oh, another helpful hint is to look
through their hair outside. You don't have to worry about dropping
any on the floor, and it's WAY easier to see in the sunlight.
I wish you the best of luck in this pain in the neck, literally,
situation. We have seven kids, five girls that all had long hair.
It's been years since we've been through it, but I still have the
messed up fingertips to prove it. I feel for you...
Tina
--- In [email protected], TreeGoddess
<treegoddess@c...> wrote:
> Dawn,years
>
> You can treat lice without putting harmful chemicals on your DD's
> scalp. Mothering magazine had a fantastic article on it a few
> back and I kept the issue, but they also have the article online atnext
> http://mothering.com/10-0-0/html/10-2-0/10-2-confessions92.shtml
>
> Coincidentally, the day after this issue arrived in my mailbox, my
> door neighbor called me all freaked out because her younger DD hada
> gotten lice and they had used 3 of those Rid kits and the lice were
> still there, but her poor DD's scalp was so damaged that she just
> couldn't put another dose of it on her. I gave her the article and
> bottle of olive oil right then and it did the trick. Anotherfriend's
> child got lice a few months back and they tried this too (withoutusing
> Rid at all) and it worked for them too.
>
> Good luck! :)
> -Tracy-
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Another thing I'm not sure was mentioned or not, is that it's important to
treat the child again 7 to 10 days later (I'd do it probably on the 7th and 9th
day to be safe.) Once an egg hatches, it takes (I believe) 8 to 10 days for
the louse to begin laying eggs itself. So if you treat the child, then treat
them again in 7 days, (and maybe again a couple of days after just to be really
safe) you will kill any bugs that have hatched, but have not begun laying
eggs yet. I usually treat my child, then treat them again in about 7 or 8 days,
then treat them again in another 7 or 8 days. We've never had a
re-infestation doing this.
One of the more unpleasant things about this whole process, is figuring out
where they got it from. My kids got lice once in CA, and kept getting it
repeatedly until I figured out my babysitter's granddaughter had a head COVERED in
bugs and nits.
Although it's embarassing, it's best to let people your kids have been in
close contact know that they had lice, so they can check their own kids. It
will help them catch it before it gets bad, and if they are the ones who
originally gave it to you, they can handle it and neither of you will have to worry
about it afterwards.
And ALWAYS check your kids every so often for nits, especially at the nape of
the neck and behind the ears.
Nancy B.
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treat the child again 7 to 10 days later (I'd do it probably on the 7th and 9th
day to be safe.) Once an egg hatches, it takes (I believe) 8 to 10 days for
the louse to begin laying eggs itself. So if you treat the child, then treat
them again in 7 days, (and maybe again a couple of days after just to be really
safe) you will kill any bugs that have hatched, but have not begun laying
eggs yet. I usually treat my child, then treat them again in about 7 or 8 days,
then treat them again in another 7 or 8 days. We've never had a
re-infestation doing this.
One of the more unpleasant things about this whole process, is figuring out
where they got it from. My kids got lice once in CA, and kept getting it
repeatedly until I figured out my babysitter's granddaughter had a head COVERED in
bugs and nits.
Although it's embarassing, it's best to let people your kids have been in
close contact know that they had lice, so they can check their own kids. It
will help them catch it before it gets bad, and if they are the ones who
originally gave it to you, they can handle it and neither of you will have to worry
about it afterwards.
And ALWAYS check your kids every so often for nits, especially at the nape of
the neck and behind the ears.
Nancy B.
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In a message dated 5/7/04 7:39:24 AM, Wishbone@... writes:
<< What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents? >>
I think partly it was all the bare feet in the Depression. Having just spent
the weekend with my inlaws, who are 80ish (one over and one under) and frugal
and picky, I'm freshly reminded. They don't want ANYTHING to remind them of
the depression. (Yet they seem to want to keep reminding everyone else of it
in words and rules and such.)
So if you HAVE shoes, by god wear them. So partly it's social pressure,
passed down a couple of generations.
There have been a few city parks in Albuquerque in which I asked the kids to
keep their shoes on. One was down by the river in a neighborhood past
downtown, and the ground had things like broken miniatures bottles, broken vodka
bottles and condoms. Used. Another had a few broken bottles and lots and LOTS
of stickers. But most of the parks, I don't mind and they do have more fun in
the sand without shoes than with.
Sandra
<< What is it about bare feet that terrifies so many American parents? >>
I think partly it was all the bare feet in the Depression. Having just spent
the weekend with my inlaws, who are 80ish (one over and one under) and frugal
and picky, I'm freshly reminded. They don't want ANYTHING to remind them of
the depression. (Yet they seem to want to keep reminding everyone else of it
in words and rules and such.)
So if you HAVE shoes, by god wear them. So partly it's social pressure,
passed down a couple of generations.
There have been a few city parks in Albuquerque in which I asked the kids to
keep their shoes on. One was down by the river in a neighborhood past
downtown, and the ground had things like broken miniatures bottles, broken vodka
bottles and condoms. Used. Another had a few broken bottles and lots and LOTS
of stickers. But most of the parks, I don't mind and they do have more fun in
the sand without shoes than with.
Sandra