Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] You're going to be dumb. was: whoops
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In a message dated 3/19/2004 7:33:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rjcarl@... writes:
frequently says
things to Suzi such as "you're not going to learn
anything", "you should go back to school", "how are
you ever going to get into college/scholarships etc",
and "you're going to be dumb".<<<<<<<
At 12, these thoughts are REAL. The brain-washing that school does is in full
bloom.
Give her two more years! <g>
Cameron got these same comments from friends. Now they're all in tenth grade
(? I think?). They ALL hate school and think it's a huge waste of time. They
have no free time to do what they like to do----but basically they've lost all
passions, so it really doesn't matter. They hate the teachers, their parents,
and the world. I can't imagine them more miserable.
In contrast, Cameron is fully engaged in life and loving every minute of it
(not that he doesn't have bad minutes----but he has a good attitude about it).
His time is his own and he makes the most of it.
Now his friends are envious.
Two years.
~Kelly
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rjcarl@... writes:
frequently says
things to Suzi such as "you're not going to learn
anything", "you should go back to school", "how are
you ever going to get into college/scholarships etc",
and "you're going to be dumb".<<<<<<<
At 12, these thoughts are REAL. The brain-washing that school does is in full
bloom.
Give her two more years! <g>
Cameron got these same comments from friends. Now they're all in tenth grade
(? I think?). They ALL hate school and think it's a huge waste of time. They
have no free time to do what they like to do----but basically they've lost all
passions, so it really doesn't matter. They hate the teachers, their parents,
and the world. I can't imagine them more miserable.
In contrast, Cameron is fully engaged in life and loving every minute of it
(not that he doesn't have bad minutes----but he has a good attitude about it).
His time is his own and he makes the most of it.
Now his friends are envious.
Two years.
~Kelly
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Have a Nice Day!
I went through this with my daughter when she was 10. (She is now 12, next week). Then she read Heather's Hiking Hiatus and other neat things from that site, and suddenly she had a completely different idea of how she could spend her time.
The other day I asked her if she still felt "behind" her friends. She said "a little, but I don't care. I'm enjoying myself". LOL.
And just yesterday, one of her friends was over, who is 2 years younger. When the friend couldn't figure out where "half way between 1min and 2 min" was on the microwave dial, my daughter was again affirmed that she wasn't missing anything by not being in school.
My son, who is 15 went through it too. For him it was around 12, 13. Now at 15, he could care less about school. Both of them say they'd like to go to school, but only to "hang out with their friends", not to learn anything.
And its rubbing off on my youngest who will be 9 (thank goodness!!!)
Kristen
The other day I asked her if she still felt "behind" her friends. She said "a little, but I don't care. I'm enjoying myself". LOL.
And just yesterday, one of her friends was over, who is 2 years younger. When the friend couldn't figure out where "half way between 1min and 2 min" was on the microwave dial, my daughter was again affirmed that she wasn't missing anything by not being in school.
My son, who is 15 went through it too. For him it was around 12, 13. Now at 15, he could care less about school. Both of them say they'd like to go to school, but only to "hang out with their friends", not to learn anything.
And its rubbing off on my youngest who will be 9 (thank goodness!!!)
Kristen
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From: kbcdlovejo@...
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Sent: Friday, March 19, 2004 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] You're going to be dumb. was: whoops
In a message dated 3/19/2004 7:33:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rjcarl@... writes:
frequently says
things to Suzi such as "you're not going to learn
anything", "you should go back to school", "how are
you ever going to get into college/scholarships etc",
and "you're going to be dumb".<<<<<<<
At 12, these thoughts are REAL. The brain-washing that school does is in full
bloom.
Give her two more years! <g>
Cameron got these same comments from friends. Now they're all in tenth grade
(? I think?). They ALL hate school and think it's a huge waste of time. They
have no free time to do what they like to do----but basically they've lost all
passions, so it really doesn't matter. They hate the teachers, their parents,
and the world. I can't imagine them more miserable.
In contrast, Cameron is fully engaged in life and loving every minute of it
(not that he doesn't have bad minutes----but he has a good attitude about it).
His time is his own and he makes the most of it.
Now his friends are envious.
Two years.
~Kelly
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Roberta Carl
I definitely know about the "hatred" by 10th grade. My
oldest 2 are there -- and just like you said -- they
hate us, their teachers, the work, learning, etc...
I have to tell them sometimes, when they have tons of
homework & projects, that most of it is busywork and
unnecessary. They want to know why I don't know some
of the answers to their problems -- I just tell them I
once learned it, but never had to use it so it went
away.
They say "Then why do we have to learn it, if we'll
never use it?" I tell them "that's public education
for you"
Roberta
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oldest 2 are there -- and just like you said -- they
hate us, their teachers, the work, learning, etc...
I have to tell them sometimes, when they have tons of
homework & projects, that most of it is busywork and
unnecessary. They want to know why I don't know some
of the answers to their problems -- I just tell them I
once learned it, but never had to use it so it went
away.
They say "Then why do we have to learn it, if we'll
never use it?" I tell them "that's public education
for you"
Roberta
--- kbcdlovejo@... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/19/2004 7:33:43 PM Eastern__________________________________
> Standard Time,
> rjcarl@... writes:
> frequently says
> things to Suzi such as "you're not going to learn
> anything", "you should go back to school", "how are
> you ever going to get into college/scholarships
> etc",
> and "you're going to be dumb".<<<<<<<
>
> At 12, these thoughts are REAL. The brain-washing
> that school does is in full
> bloom.
>
> Give her two more years! <g>
>
> Cameron got these same comments from friends. Now
> they're all in tenth grade
> (? I think?). They ALL hate school and think it's a
> huge waste of time. They
> have no free time to do what they like to do----but
> basically they've lost all
> passions, so it really doesn't matter. They hate the
> teachers, their parents,
> and the world. I can't imagine them more miserable.
>
> In contrast, Cameron is fully engaged in life and
> loving every minute of it
> (not that he doesn't have bad minutes----but he has
> a good attitude about it).
> His time is his own and he makes the most of it.
>
> Now his friends are envious.
>
> Two years.
>
> ~Kelly
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
>
>
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In a message dated 3/19/04 7:27:23 PM, litlrooh@... writes:
<< And just yesterday, one of her friends was over, who is 2 years younger.
When the friend couldn't figure out where "half way between 1min and 2 min"
was on the microwave dial, my daughter was again affirmed that she wasn't
missing anything by not being in school. >>
Holly has moments like that a lot, when she's relieved and kinda shocked at
what schoolkids DON'T know, or are unwilling to even try to figure out. "They
haven't taught us that yet" is just not a thought my kids have ever had. <g>
We were at a birthday party at an arcade here called Nickel City. All the
games use nickels and some of them give paper tickets the kids can trade in for
cheap prizes. Holly brought her tickets over to the mom-table, where we were
hanging out talking, and I asked her if she wanted me to fold them. She said
no, she'd do it. I would've folded them by tens, and cut off by hundreds.
Holly folded by sixes, and didn't cut off. She can "do sixes" as easily as
she can do fives or tens. "Sixes" were not a thing to do for me, when I was in
school. Sixes were hard. But they're not for Holly, and that's good! She'll
have dozens and a gross and all the angles of circles just as quick in her
head as I have tens and hundreds. Probably quicker.
Nobody told her not to.
Sandra
<< And just yesterday, one of her friends was over, who is 2 years younger.
When the friend couldn't figure out where "half way between 1min and 2 min"
was on the microwave dial, my daughter was again affirmed that she wasn't
missing anything by not being in school. >>
Holly has moments like that a lot, when she's relieved and kinda shocked at
what schoolkids DON'T know, or are unwilling to even try to figure out. "They
haven't taught us that yet" is just not a thought my kids have ever had. <g>
We were at a birthday party at an arcade here called Nickel City. All the
games use nickels and some of them give paper tickets the kids can trade in for
cheap prizes. Holly brought her tickets over to the mom-table, where we were
hanging out talking, and I asked her if she wanted me to fold them. She said
no, she'd do it. I would've folded them by tens, and cut off by hundreds.
Holly folded by sixes, and didn't cut off. She can "do sixes" as easily as
she can do fives or tens. "Sixes" were not a thing to do for me, when I was in
school. Sixes were hard. But they're not for Holly, and that's good! She'll
have dozens and a gross and all the angles of circles just as quick in her
head as I have tens and hundreds. Probably quicker.
Nobody told her not to.
Sandra