sonyacurti

Hi,

Iam going back to work and I am planning on working the night shift
either 2nd or 3rd.I want to do that so I can be home with my son so
we can still unschool.The problem is that I would have to train for
10 weeks all day. I don't not have any realitives who are able to
watch him or anywhere that I would want him to be 24/7.

sonya
attleboro,mass

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In a message dated 2/2/04 6:36:07 AM, jcurtielectric@... writes:

<< .The problem is that I would have to train for

10 weeks all day. I don't not have any realitives who are able to

watch him or anywhere that I would want him to be 24/7. >>

If he were in school you would still need to find a place for him to be, so I
don't see that it's an unschooling issue.

Sandra

sonyacurti

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/2/04 6:36:07 AM, jcurtielectric@m... writes:
>
> << .The problem is that I would have to train for
>
> 10 weeks all day. I don't not have any realitives who are able to
>
> watch him or anywhere that I would want him to be 24/7. >>
>
> If he were in school you would still need to find a place for him
to be, so I
> don't see that it's an unschooling issue.
>
> Sandra

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Actually I was thinking of putting him in school so i could do my
training (which has to be during the day). If i worked nights i
wouldn't need him in school that is why i will be doing nights
because I still want to have him home.. It's the training period
thats the problem. I would not have to find someone for him if he
was in school I have to find someone for him if he doesn't go to
school. I explained to him we could do the school tempoarily and
then I could pull him out the following year ???? Has anyone had a
similar experience ???????

Sonya
Attleboro, Mass.

queenjane555

--- In [email protected], "sonyacurti"
<jcurtielectric@m...> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Iam going back to work and I am planning on working the night shift
> either 2nd or 3rd.I want to do that so I can be home with my son so
> we can still unschool.The problem is that I would have to train for
> 10 weeks all day. I don't not have any realitives who are able to
> watch him or anywhere that I would want him to be 24/7.
>
> sonya
> attleboro,mass


I was still working full time (9a-6p or so)in December when i pulled
my son out of first grade. I had wondered for a year how i could
swing working and hsing, and when i finally didnt have a choice, i
was amazed at how easy it was. I posted a msg to the local hs email
list, asking for temporary child care help (about three weeks til i
could quit my job)and got about six offers of help. I chose a mom
with a 7 yo boy, they werent unschoolers but the mom suspended all
"teaching" while my son was there(i think she was hoping for a reason
to do so! and said they probably wouldnt go back to the curriculum
they were using)...my son LOVED going. I did pay her about $20/day
but i think she wouldve done it for free to help out.

Katherine

Marjorie Kirk

I explained to him we could do the school tempoarily and then I could pull
him out the following year ???? Has anyone had a similar experience ???????

Sonya
Attleboro, Mass.


If you really need to do this training, and he's willing to go to school, it
could work, but I'm wondering why would you wait to pull him out next year?
Couldn't he just go to school for 10 weeks?

Marjorie

sonyacurti

--- In [email protected], "Marjorie Kirk"
<mkirk@c...> wrote:
>
>
> I explained to him we could do the school tempoarily and then I
could pull
> him out the following year ???? Has anyone had a similar
experience ???????
>
> Sonya
> Attleboro, Mass.
>
>
> If you really need to do this training, and he's willing to go to
school, it
> could work, but I'm wondering why would you wait to pull him out
next year?
> Couldn't he just go to school for 10 weeks?
>
> Marjorie

YEAH ! I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THOSE 10 WEEKS
ARE. WHAT WOULD I SAY TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ??? I NEED TO GET HIM
INTO SCHOOL AND AFTER THE 10 WEEKS PULL HIM OUT ?? WHAT IF THE 10
WEEKS FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR?? I GUESS I COULD IF I REALLY
WANTED TO. I REALLY DO NOT WANT HIM IN SCHOOL BECAUSE HE IS ALMOST
EIGHT AND ISN'T READING YET - THERE IS A PRIVATE SCHOOL STARTED BY
HOMESCHOOLERS THAT I AM LOOKING INTO TONIGHT AT A HOME SCHOOL
MEETING.

Sonya
Attleboro, Mass.

sonyacurti

--- In [email protected], "queenjane555"
<queenjane555@y...> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "sonyacurti"
> <jcurtielectric@m...> wrote:
>
>
> I was still working full time (9a-6p or so)in December when i
pulled
> my son out of first grade. I had wondered for a year how i could
> swing working and hsing, and when i finally didnt have a choice, i
> was amazed at how easy it was. I posted a msg to the local hs
email
> list, asking for temporary child care help (about three weeks til
i
> could quit my job)and got about six offers of help. I chose a mom
> with a 7 yo boy, they werent unschoolers but the mom suspended all
> "teaching" while my son was there(i think she was hoping for a
reason
> to do so! and said they probably wouldnt go back to the curriculum
> they were using)...my son LOVED going. I did pay her about $20/day
> but i think she wouldve done it for free to help out.
>
> Katherine

I have had one woman offer me to take him but it didn't feel
comfortable with him going there (long story). 10 weeks is a long,
long time. I will have to wait and see I guess ? I will keep
pursuing my options. I will list everyone I know and then I can
brainstorm with my son. He said he doesn't want to go to school but
he likes the sounds of the home school place I mentioned. I will
keep my ears and eyes open.

Thanks for you encouraging story
Sonya
Attleboro,
Mass.

Marjorie Kirk

> If you really need to do this training, and he's willing to go to
school, it
> could work, but I'm wondering why would you wait to pull him out
next year?
> Couldn't he just go to school for 10 weeks?
>
> Marjorie

YEAH ! I THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BUT I DO NOT KNOW WHEN THOSE 10 WEEKS ARE. WHAT
WOULD I SAY TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEM ??? I NEED TO GET HIM INTO SCHOOL AND AFTER
THE 10 WEEKS PULL HIM OUT ?? WHAT IF THE 10 WEEKS FALLS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
YEAR?? I GUESS I COULD IF I REALLY WANTED TO. I REALLY DO NOT WANT HIM IN
SCHOOL BECAUSE HE IS ALMOST EIGHT AND ISN'T READING YET - THERE IS A PRIVATE
SCHOOL STARTED BY HOMESCHOOLERS THAT I AM LOOKING INTO TONIGHT AT A HOME
SCHOOL MEETING.

Sonya
Attleboro, Mass.



I don't know what the regulations in Mass. are, but here in Ohio you can
notify of your intent to homeschool and take your child out of school at any
time. When two of mine wanted to "try" school to see what it was like, my
plan was to enroll them, let them go for a week (the amount of time they
were interested in trying), then just re-notify and bring them home again.
(They lost interest before we actually got around to doing it.)

Don't worry about what to say to the school system, what you do is really
none of their business! If they ask you could just tell them that you are
using them for free daycare.

Good luck with the private school.

Marjorie

queenjane555

--- In [email protected], "sonyacurti"
<jcurtielectric@m...> wrote:
> > I have had one woman offer me to take him but it didn't feel
> comfortable with him going there (long story). 10 weeks is a long,
> long time.

The thing is, you have less of a choice in school than in choosing a
daycare provider. It hit me the other day, how much emphasis is put
on "finding a quality daycare provider" for people who choose that,
on running background checks, making sure the home is safe, making
sure the parenting beliefs mesh well with yours....and then we (that
is, the culture at large)go and put our kids in school at age five
without checking anything out.

When my son was in a home daycare at age 3, since i was paying this
lady, i basically had the final say in how she treated my son (feed
him this, don't spank him, etcetc)...but when he was in kindergarten
and first grade the pressure was on to go with the flow. And i am one
to rebel against authority simply because it IS an authority. Little
things would bug the heck out of me, like how they wouldnt let me pay
in advance for his lunch, he had to carry 40 cents with him everyday,
and he would always lose it, then they would send notes home saying
we owed money for lunch. The personell always called me "Mom"(as in,
"you know, *mom*, he's a big boy now and needs to learn to carry
money!" grr)..i had to go out and buy him all new pants, with
pockets, so he could remember his money. And then he never had enough
time to eat anyway....

I am not sure what the options are where you live, but you might also
look into a regular daycare center(usually go up to age five)to see
if they would accept your son for a limited time. But of course,
school would be free and thats a factor too.

Katherine

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In a message dated 2/3/04 7:32:40 PM, queenjane555@... writes:

<< When my son was in a home daycare at age 3, since i was paying this

lady, i basically had the final say in how she treated my son (feed

him this, don't spank him, etcetc)... >>

I hope you were paying her thousands of dollars, if she had to entirely do
your bidding.

People who leave their kids with another family can't really have "the final
say" except in whether they leave them there or not.

I'm not sure which is really less helpful to new unschoolers, discussions of
whether to buy phonics programs, or how to find fulltime daycare.

Can we talk about unschooling, please?

Sandra

sonyacurti

--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/3/04 7:32:40 PM, queenjane555@y... writes:
>
> << When my son was in a home daycare at age 3, since i was paying
this
>
> lady, i basically had the final say in how she treated my son
(feed
>
> him this, don't spank him, etcetc)... >>
>
> I hope you were paying her thousands of dollars, if she had to
entirely do
> your bidding.
>
> People who leave their kids with another family can't really
have "the final
> say" except in whether they leave them there or not.

>
> I'm not sure which is really less helpful to new unschoolers,
discussions of
> whether to buy phonics programs, or how to find fulltime daycare.
>
> Can we talk about unschooling, please?
>
> Sandra


There comes a time in someones life when they have to make some
tough choices. I have been home with my son for over two years. I
have been unschooling for all of that time. It saddens me how you
react to some of the people on this list. That would be me who
wondered if anyone had to balance their childs unschooling with
working.I am alo the one who wondered if I should get my son ready
to join school (H.O.P.)because he doesn't read yet and he will be 8
in May. It is not a problem that he doesn't read in the unschooling
community with his mother but his mothers circumstances are changing.
sorry that I asked.

Sonya
Attleboro, Mass.

Fetteroll

on 2/4/04 8:07 AM, sonyacurti at jcurtielectric@... wrote:

> I am alo the one who wondered if I should get my son ready
> to join school (H.O.P.)because he doesn't read yet and he will be 8
> in May. It is not a problem that he doesn't read in the unschooling
> community with his mother but his mothers circumstances are changing.

I think rather than seeing this a list for unschoolers to talk about things,
it's best to see it as a resource to help people get to unschooling.

That sounds unfriendly but with a list this big and busy, the less stuff
that's counter to unschooling the better. Just as if it were a busy
vegetarian list the fewer questions from vegetarians on how to temporarily
incorporate some meat the better.

I'm sorry your son might end up in school. But it doesn't help people let go
of a desire for reading programs to have information about reading programs
here.

Questions like that might work better on the message boards at
Unschooling.com since people can more easily skip it if the topic doesn't
interest them.

Joyce

Diane

It's true that sometimes an unschooling parent ends up making childcare
choices. A year ago, I would never have thought I'd be dealing with
those issues, either.

But I'm now a single parent and have been interviewing weekend help all
last week, and out new "weekend nanny" is to start tomorrow
(orientation) and Saturday while I work. As a nurse, I can support my
family fairly comfortably on 2 twelve-hour shifts a week. By choosing
weekends, I bypass the childcare provider's mental biases that she
should be doing something "educational" (I hope).

However, any discussions this list may have had on the subject wouldn't
have interested me last year, and I doubt they interest much of anyone
here now.

So the tough choices stand, but not here.

:-) Diane


>There comes a time in someones life when they have to make some
>tough choices. I have been home with my son for over two years. I
>have been unschooling for all of that time. It saddens me how you
>react to some of the people on this list. That would be me who
>wondered if anyone had to balance their childs unschooling with
>working.I am alo the one who wondered if I should get my son ready
>to join school (H.O.P.)because he doesn't read yet and he will be 8
>in May. It is not a problem that he doesn't read in the unschooling
>community with his mother but his mothers circumstances are changing.
>sorry that I asked.
>




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In a message dated 2/4/04 9:28:37 PM, cen46624@... writes:

<< It's true that sometimes an unschooling parent ends up making childcare
choices. >>

Right, and that's not an unschooling issue.

Neither is which phonics curriculum to buy.

Unschoolers need to buy cars and sewing machines, and decide whether to use
hormone replacement therapy or not (some of them do; the guys don't <g>) and
about vaccinations for kids, but there are other lists and other sources, and
this can't be everything for everyone. It can't even be all homeschooling
source for everyone.

Thanks for understanding (those who understand).

Sandra