Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: ~ done lurking and need advise/ college costs
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In a message dated 1/27/2004 12:46:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ecsamhill@... writes:
I was also wondering about Pam's daughter's (potential) situation.
Would living in Wisconsin for a year give one Wisconsin residency?
Would it wipe out one's California residency?
Betsy
My daughter attended college out of State. This was in 1998. To qualify for
"in-state" tuition one must provide proof of residency, such as drivers
license, car registration, voting registration, paying into the state income tax
from your job. As far as proving she was "independent" from us, they required a
lot of the same things, proof of residency in HER name, drivers license that
reflected that addresses, phone bills etc. They really didn't go by our
income tax because students CAN and DO become independent after taxes are filed.
So if say last year you claimed your child, they now are 18, have moved out of
your home and are no longer your dependent, have filed the FASA form and can
prove they are working and paying their own way, then they are considered
independent.
DON'T however try to claim then next year on your taxes as a dependent.
Lots of children/young adults become "on their own" at the age of 18 by
choice for some and by necessity by others.
In our particular situation it didn't really matter because my daughter was
on scholarship for almost all her tuition amounts, but we did check into it
after her freshman year, just in case her scholarships were not renewed.
Lots of her friends went this route to get "in state" tuition and some even
went to work locally after graduation to participate in the tuition forgiving
plan the State/Federal government offers to students.
This was fairly recent so I thought it might help some. We live in VA and
our daughter went to college in NC. Our youngest son is looking into attending
WVA and he will NOT be getting scholarships so is looking into becoming
independent for his FASA form for next year.
Oh, you can fill out the FASA form online for free and have it sent to all
the colleges that you choose. Do it early, as they tend to run out of funds the
closer it gets to the term you've applied for.
Also, while State schools may seem a bargain compared to the cost of tuition
at private schools, don't rule them out. We paid less for a 26,000.00 per
year private college than we would have paid if our daughter had gone to a State
school here in VA.
glena
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ecsamhill@... writes:
I was also wondering about Pam's daughter's (potential) situation.
Would living in Wisconsin for a year give one Wisconsin residency?
Would it wipe out one's California residency?
Betsy
My daughter attended college out of State. This was in 1998. To qualify for
"in-state" tuition one must provide proof of residency, such as drivers
license, car registration, voting registration, paying into the state income tax
from your job. As far as proving she was "independent" from us, they required a
lot of the same things, proof of residency in HER name, drivers license that
reflected that addresses, phone bills etc. They really didn't go by our
income tax because students CAN and DO become independent after taxes are filed.
So if say last year you claimed your child, they now are 18, have moved out of
your home and are no longer your dependent, have filed the FASA form and can
prove they are working and paying their own way, then they are considered
independent.
DON'T however try to claim then next year on your taxes as a dependent.
Lots of children/young adults become "on their own" at the age of 18 by
choice for some and by necessity by others.
In our particular situation it didn't really matter because my daughter was
on scholarship for almost all her tuition amounts, but we did check into it
after her freshman year, just in case her scholarships were not renewed.
Lots of her friends went this route to get "in state" tuition and some even
went to work locally after graduation to participate in the tuition forgiving
plan the State/Federal government offers to students.
This was fairly recent so I thought it might help some. We live in VA and
our daughter went to college in NC. Our youngest son is looking into attending
WVA and he will NOT be getting scholarships so is looking into becoming
independent for his FASA form for next year.
Oh, you can fill out the FASA form online for free and have it sent to all
the colleges that you choose. Do it early, as they tend to run out of funds the
closer it gets to the term you've applied for.
Also, while State schools may seem a bargain compared to the cost of tuition
at private schools, don't rule them out. We paid less for a 26,000.00 per
year private college than we would have paid if our daughter had gone to a State
school here in VA.
glena
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pam sorooshian
These are the questions the student has to answer on the FAFSA to
determine whether or not he/she is going to be considered "independent"
for financial aid purposes - it no longer is determined by how much
parental support a kid has received. It is FAR more difficult to be
classified as "independent" for financial aid purposes than it was some
years ago. Just moving out and living on your own will NOT get you into
the "independent" category.
• Were you born before January 1, 1981?
• Will you be enrolled in a master's or doctoral program (beyond a
bachelor's degree) during the upcoming academic year?
• Are you married? (Answer "Yes" if you are separated but not
divorced.)
• Do you have children who receive more than half of their support
from you?
• Do you have dependents (other than your children or spouse) who
live with you and who receive more than half of their support from you?
• Are you an orphan, or are you or were you (until age 18) a
ward/dependent of the court?
• Are you a veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces?
If you answered "yes" to any question, choose "Independent" below.
For residency, at the college where I teach:
For tuition purposes, California Community Colleges are required to
determine a student’s residency. California law states that residency
is physical presence coupled with the intent to remain in California.
To qualify for residency status, a student must have been a California
resident for one year and one day prior to the opening day of
instruction. The burden of proof to clearly demonstrate both physical
presence in California and intent to establish California residence
lies with the student.
determine whether or not he/she is going to be considered "independent"
for financial aid purposes - it no longer is determined by how much
parental support a kid has received. It is FAR more difficult to be
classified as "independent" for financial aid purposes than it was some
years ago. Just moving out and living on your own will NOT get you into
the "independent" category.
• Were you born before January 1, 1981?
• Will you be enrolled in a master's or doctoral program (beyond a
bachelor's degree) during the upcoming academic year?
• Are you married? (Answer "Yes" if you are separated but not
divorced.)
• Do you have children who receive more than half of their support
from you?
• Do you have dependents (other than your children or spouse) who
live with you and who receive more than half of their support from you?
• Are you an orphan, or are you or were you (until age 18) a
ward/dependent of the court?
• Are you a veteran of the U.S. Armed Forces?
If you answered "yes" to any question, choose "Independent" below.
For residency, at the college where I teach:
For tuition purposes, California Community Colleges are required to
determine a student’s residency. California law states that residency
is physical presence coupled with the intent to remain in California.
To qualify for residency status, a student must have been a California
resident for one year and one day prior to the opening day of
instruction. The burden of proof to clearly demonstrate both physical
presence in California and intent to establish California residence
lies with the student.
On Jan 27, 2004, at 12:10 PM, rubyprincesstsg@... wrote:
> My daughter attended college out of State. This was in 1998. To
> qualify for
> "in-state" tuition one must provide proof of residency, such as drivers
> license, car registration, voting registration, paying into the state
> income tax
> from your job. As far as proving she was "independent" from us, they
> required a
> lot of the same things, proof of residency in HER name, drivers
> license that
> reflected that addresses, phone bills etc. They really didn't go by
> our
> income tax because students CAN and DO become independent after taxes
> are filed.
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