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In a message dated 1/19/2004 2:24:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[email protected] writes:
>>>>There's harm in NOT being able to see it, and there's even more harm in
not
"seeing learning" until it looks like school-style busywork.

And I think there's harm in telling children "NOW you're learning!" or "OH
GOOD! That's science!" instead of being with them where they are in the
moment.<<<<<<

But I think that there ARE times when it's OK to say, "See? That's science!"
Or history or math or whatever.

Shortly after we left school, Cameron's friends would say mean things like
how stupid he was going to be or how he'll never get into college or what about
algebra.?

He was thinking that *I* had made a HUGE mistake because he wasn't learning
anything "schoolish"----that would "count". (He was also DEschooling).

When we were visiting Gettysburg or packing the car or doubling the 2/3 cup
in a recipe, I would casually mention that this WAS history/geometry/fractions.
It wasn't that *I* wanted to know that he was learning. He NEEDED to know
that the learning was *happening*.

This was very hard to do. I didn't want it to sound "preachy"; nor did I want
him to "count" that as his "history for the week". I wanted him (a SCHOOLED
CHILD) to realize that everything we do every day IS educational. It took a
loooong time for him to see the value in life. That he CAN learn from living.
That he can SEE the learning.

It's hard to explain. It clicked for him when he was finally finished
deschooling. It clicked even more when his schooled friends got to high school and
realized that school is really stupid! <g>

Now he can SEE that everything counts----but for a while he thought I was
just crazy! <G>

~Kelly


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In a message dated 1/19/2004 4:59:17 PM Central Standard Time,
kbcdlovejo@... writes:


> This was very hard to do. I didn't want it to sound "preachy"; nor did I
> want
> him to "count" that as his "history for the week". I wanted him (a SCHOOLED
> CHILD) to realize that everything we do every day IS educational. It took a
> loooong time for him to see the value in life. That he CAN learn from
> living.
> That he can SEE the learning.
>
> It's hard to explain.

I understand. My kids even tell me now what learning is, I love it.
Laura


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In a message dated 1/19/04 3:59:37 PM, kbcdlovejo@... writes:

<< But I think that there ARE times when it's OK to say, "See? That's
science!"
Or history or math or whatever.

Shortly after we left school >>

Well he already had school.
When kids haven't had any school, it's not at all helpful to divide the world
schoolishly up for them.

Sandra

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In a message dated 1/19/04 8:04:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:

> Well he already had school.
> When kids haven't had any school, it's not at all helpful to divide the
> world
> schoolishly up for them.
>

I never really thought about it. My boys have never been to school and we
don't divide the world up. I guess we never thought about it since we have
pretty good laws here in NC, no portfolio, no review etc. Never had a reason to
say "this is math...or this is science".
Pam G


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In a message dated 1/19/2004 8:22:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Genant2@... writes:
I never really thought about it. My boys have never been to school and we
don't divide the world up. I guess we never thought about it since we have
pretty good laws here in NC, no portfolio, no review etc. Never had a reason
to
say "this is math...or this is science".
Pam G>>>
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Even with portfolios there is no need to separate. I did my portfolio last
year without speaking the subjects to my kids. I simply divided what he did
throughout the year into what it fit into. With the lady who does ours I dont even
think I needed to do that. Laura


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In a message dated 1/19/2004 7:35:35 PM Central Standard Time, HMSL2@...
writes:


> Even with portfolios there is no need to separate. I did my portfolio last
> year without speaking the subjects to my kids. I simply divided what he did
> throughout the year into what it fit into. With the lady who does ours I
> dont even
> think I needed to do that. Laura
>

All I have at the moment is a Bath and Body shopping bag with a few things in
it for both boys, LOL. My reviewer is great though.
Laura In Ohio


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