Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: reply to Sandra re: Christianity and "witchcr...
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In a message dated 1/19/2004 1:48:45 PM Mountain Standard Time,
rachel_foodie@... writes:
-=-Anyway, there is WAY WAY more
prejudice from the Baptists (and other protestant groups) AGAINST the
Catholics than the other way around. -=-
True, and their anger was 400 years outdated, for the most part.
I grew up Baptist in a very Catholic town in Northern New Mexico, and the
kids at the parochial school had been told it was a sin to enter a protestant
church. They could ask for an exception for a wedding or funeral, but not for a
regular service.
I had permission to play the organ at my church any time, and once when we
were old enough to drive my best friend and I were out and bored and I wanted to
show her the organ. It wasn't "church time" and I tried to explain to her
that it was just a building, not sanctified like the Catholic church. I finally
convinced her to come in but she was nervous as a cat, and kept looking over
her shoulder the whole time.
I traded Bibles with her once so we could see what the differences were.
About ten minutes later she was at the door saying her mom said we had to trade
back right away.
Our fourth grade teacher was the chatechism teacher of the kids in our class
who were Catholic. One day some of them informed us they had just learned
they were going to heaven and the rest of us (protestants) weren't. We protested
(being protestants <g>) but they said it was true, that Miss Gonzales told
them so.
She showed up late after lunch that day and we were in the throes of nine
year old religious wars and she had to talk her way out of it.
I still remember that day, the way the sky was, and the way the room was.
None of us had turned the light on when we came in and it was clouding up fast
outside, so the room was getting darker and darker and I was about to cry
because I KNEW Miss Gonzales liked me and I knew (from church) that I was more
likely to go to heaven than these Catholic kids were. ROUGH DAY!!
Sandra.
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rachel_foodie@... writes:
-=-Anyway, there is WAY WAY more
prejudice from the Baptists (and other protestant groups) AGAINST the
Catholics than the other way around. -=-
True, and their anger was 400 years outdated, for the most part.
I grew up Baptist in a very Catholic town in Northern New Mexico, and the
kids at the parochial school had been told it was a sin to enter a protestant
church. They could ask for an exception for a wedding or funeral, but not for a
regular service.
I had permission to play the organ at my church any time, and once when we
were old enough to drive my best friend and I were out and bored and I wanted to
show her the organ. It wasn't "church time" and I tried to explain to her
that it was just a building, not sanctified like the Catholic church. I finally
convinced her to come in but she was nervous as a cat, and kept looking over
her shoulder the whole time.
I traded Bibles with her once so we could see what the differences were.
About ten minutes later she was at the door saying her mom said we had to trade
back right away.
Our fourth grade teacher was the chatechism teacher of the kids in our class
who were Catholic. One day some of them informed us they had just learned
they were going to heaven and the rest of us (protestants) weren't. We protested
(being protestants <g>) but they said it was true, that Miss Gonzales told
them so.
She showed up late after lunch that day and we were in the throes of nine
year old religious wars and she had to talk her way out of it.
I still remember that day, the way the sky was, and the way the room was.
None of us had turned the light on when we came in and it was clouding up fast
outside, so the room was getting darker and darker and I was about to cry
because I KNEW Miss Gonzales liked me and I knew (from church) that I was more
likely to go to heaven than these Catholic kids were. ROUGH DAY!!
Sandra.
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In a message dated 1/19/2004 3:48:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rachel_foodie@... writes:
the "whore
of Babylon". Even the famous Left Behind Series has the anti-Christs
best pal some former Papal dude.<<
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Although I think Sandra was just being sarcastic (jokingly), you are right.
I'm a convert to Catholicism and I have never heard at Mass that the
evangelical church members are doomed to hell. I have, on the other hand, heard
Catholics are on their way to hell in a bobsled by numerous
evangelical/fundamentalist denominations, my entire life. Oh well,...
Nancy B. in WV
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rachel_foodie@... writes:
>>Anyway, I digress, as a protestant,in many churches, I was taught that the Catholic church was
the "whore
of Babylon". Even the famous Left Behind Series has the anti-Christs
best pal some former Papal dude.<<
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Although I think Sandra was just being sarcastic (jokingly), you are right.
I'm a convert to Catholicism and I have never heard at Mass that the
evangelical church members are doomed to hell. I have, on the other hand, heard
Catholics are on their way to hell in a bobsled by numerous
evangelical/fundamentalist denominations, my entire life. Oh well,...
Nancy B. in WV
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arcarpenter2003
--- In [email protected], SandraDodd@a... wrote:
Crazy. Thanks for sharing.
Peace,
Amy
>I was about to cryI was more
> because I KNEW Miss Gonzales liked me and I knew (from church) that
> likely to go to heaven than these Catholic kids were. ROUGH DAY!!Know the feeling, even though I was one of those Catholic kids.
>
> Sandra.
Crazy. Thanks for sharing.
Peace,
Amy
liza sabater
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 04:13 PM, CelticFrau@... wrote:
spent in Catholic school back in my 'island' days and the 20+ year I
lived as a Catholic. And at the school, it was quite the international
group, with priests and nuns from Spain and Ireland and the US. So it
was not just a "Puerto Rican" thing.
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> I'm a convert to Catholicism and I have never heard at Mass that theI call this Catholicism-lite. Definitely different from the 12 years I
> evangelical church members are doomed to hell.
spent in Catholic school back in my 'island' days and the 20+ year I
lived as a Catholic. And at the school, it was quite the international
group, with priests and nuns from Spain and Ireland and the US. So it
was not just a "Puerto Rican" thing.
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Mary
From: <SandraDodd@...>
<< I grew up Baptist in a very Catholic town in Northern New Mexico, and the
kids at the parochial school had been told it was a sin to enter a
protestant
church. They could ask for an exception for a wedding or funeral, but not
for a
regular service.>>
This is very interesting to me. I grew up catholic. Schools, church,
rituals, the whole bit. I never once remember hearing that anyone else but
*us* was going to hell. I don't remember ever hearing that *others* were
less than us. We were planted in our catholic beliefs rather strongly, but
not so that others were ever thought wrong. I also never heard the word
Christian when referring to us. We were catholics, not christians. I learned
from catholic nuns, priests and teachers that the bible was only a story not
to be taken literally. I also learned about Buddhists, atheists, agnostics,
etc. while in catholic school.
I never really thought my catholic upbringing was that much different than
other catholics. Not sure if it was my little area I lived in or not.
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
<< I grew up Baptist in a very Catholic town in Northern New Mexico, and the
kids at the parochial school had been told it was a sin to enter a
protestant
church. They could ask for an exception for a wedding or funeral, but not
for a
regular service.>>
This is very interesting to me. I grew up catholic. Schools, church,
rituals, the whole bit. I never once remember hearing that anyone else but
*us* was going to hell. I don't remember ever hearing that *others* were
less than us. We were planted in our catholic beliefs rather strongly, but
not so that others were ever thought wrong. I also never heard the word
Christian when referring to us. We were catholics, not christians. I learned
from catholic nuns, priests and teachers that the bible was only a story not
to be taken literally. I also learned about Buddhists, atheists, agnostics,
etc. while in catholic school.
I never really thought my catholic upbringing was that much different than
other catholics. Not sure if it was my little area I lived in or not.
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
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In a message dated 1/19/2004 5:49:57 PM Central Standard Time,
mummy124@... writes:
don't go asking me to quote anything as I am just not good at that stuff. I
know what I believe but I never force it on anyone, in fact they would have to
ask me for me to share much of anything. I've always felt like being Catholic
is kind of like a private religion, at least it has been for me.
Laura
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mummy124@... writes:
> I don't remember ever hearing that *others* wereI don't either and I still never hear it today. I am happy with my faith but
> less than us.
don't go asking me to quote anything as I am just not good at that stuff. I
know what I believe but I never force it on anyone, in fact they would have to
ask me for me to share much of anything. I've always felt like being Catholic
is kind of like a private religion, at least it has been for me.
Laura
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liza sabater
On Monday, January 19, 2004, at 06:38 PM, Mary wrote:
Catholicism. The brand of Catholicism that happens here in the US has
sometimes very little to do with what happens in Europe or Latin
America. US catholics are deemed as 'affected' by protestantism by
catholics elsewhere.
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> This is very interesting to me. I grew up catholic. Schools, church,So you've never heard of Opus Dei? Very US against THEM brand of
> rituals, the whole bit. I never once remember hearing that anyone else
> but
> *us* was going to hell.
Catholicism. The brand of Catholicism that happens here in the US has
sometimes very little to do with what happens in Europe or Latin
America. US catholics are deemed as 'affected' by protestantism by
catholics elsewhere.
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