Danielle E. Conger

At 08:36 PM 1/2/2004 -0500, SandraDodd@... wrote:
>Guys are surprised that women have to calculate the angle of the hill, and
>somewhat gauge the consistency of the dirt.

<LOL> They sell plastic pee funnels for female rock climbers that
basically look like plastic male members. Try copping a squat on the side
of El Capitan!

--danielle, who used to rock climb in a former life and is looking forward
to getting back into it with the kids this spring. (I'm making for a busy
spring, aren't I <g>)

Barbara Moreda

<<<It was the owner of the place - a grumpy middle aged man. I grabbed
some napkins and wiped my daughter off and walked out leaving the mess.>>>

Good for you! Serves him right. Just totally irritates me when people will
not be respectful of others and their needs. I would not have cleaned it up,
either.

Barbara

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>
> On Jan 3, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Tia Leschke wrote:
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> > Personally, I've been tempted to go right
> > outside a locked restroom more than a few times when I was told they
> > were
> > only for customers.
>
> My daughter threw up all over the display case of a bagel shop after
> they refused to let us use the restroom and wouldn't even hand me a cup
> after I said, "This child is about to vomit."
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> It was the owner of the place - a grumpy middle aged man. I grabbed
> some napkins and wiped my daughter off and walked out leaving the mess.
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There is a website out there to show women how to pee standing up. They
suggest practicing in the shower first. :)

Barbara

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>
> ***But for someone to not care that a truck driver might see me peeing
> on a rock is REALLY cool***
>
> I don't care if a truck driver sees you peeing on a rock. ; )
>
> My friend Pat Hatmaker learned to pee in a pop can when she was out
> flying with her boyfriend. I thought that was impressive. I flew with
> a boyfriend once or twice but that was a drug induced flying and as far
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here is a website ... http://www.restrooms.org/standing.html

Uh, I googled it and found some really disgusting sites (no, I didn't visit
them) but I don't think is the one I originally saw.

Barbara


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In a message dated 1/2/04 4:15:50 PM, beenardonat@... writes:

<< I've popped a squat many times when I had to, always discreetly, and only
when it was a necessity. I have 2 sisters, no brothers. We camped, played in
the woods, and also had a place on the lake with no indoor plumbing. My
girls have occasionally popped a squat in urgent situation. >>

Here follows more than most people need to know, but honestly it could help
someone someday a little perhaps.


I'm always amazed when someone says they've never gone outside, but then I've
spent a lot of time in automobiles in western states, and sometimes in
southern New Mexico or Utah, if you're going to go, you're going to go behind a bush
(if you're lucky) at the side of the road.

Guys are surprised that women have to calculate the angle of the hill, and
somewhat gauge the consistency of the dirt.

And once when the snow was deep and we were having to go slow in the
mountains around Price in Utah, we learned that if you open both doors it makes a
little stall for a person sitting on the edge of the doorframe (don't know how to
say what used to be "running board") and if another person also has to go,
move the car up a few car lengths and you have a whole new toilet.

Others just look the other way. (We just told that story to Holly last week,
for some reason. It happened before we had kids, and there were three people
in the car, me being the only female.)

It was way better than any alternatives we could think of.

Once in Nevada in broad daylight with nothing in sight for as far as we could
see on the flat in any direction, I really had to pee.

No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock. (No bush was visible, forgot
to mention.)
The pee didn't run off the rock. It was soaking in and evaporating faster
than it could run off. A truck driver was coming and I could've hurried, but I
thought, "This guy has peed on a rock many times, and he'll never see me
again anyway."

Sandra

Mary

From: <SandraDodd@...>

<<I'm always amazed when someone says they've never gone outside, >>



Unless you count when I was 3 and 4, going outside along the road with a
potty chair, I've never gone outside. Can't say I've ever been a postion
where I had to. Don't think I want to be ther either!!

Mary B.
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Elizabeth Roberts

I'll never forget the look on Paul's face when we were dating. His parents live in an area called "Back Swamp" outside of Richlands, NC. We had this spot off the road down dirt track where we'd go parking...one night, having forgotten to go before leaving his parents' house, I excused myself and got out of the truck...took my purse and walked off a ways, did my business and cleaned up with a wet-wipe. I came back in the truck and Paul was like "Did you just go?" I was "Yeah, what'd you think I did?!"

He said I was the only women he'd ever dated who felt at home in the woods enough to just go take care of their business, let alone who carried wet-wipes and a plastic baggie in their purse just specifically for that purpose! I said "Well, I was a Girl Scout, I love camping, etc. and you never know when you might really have to go and there not be a bathroom around. Best to be prepared. Semper Paratus and all that! (LOL he got a kick out of me saying that, as it's the motto of the Coast Guard and we were both on active-duty at that point).

However...as we got married, we stopped hanging out in the woods so much. 9 years, 3 children and a pregnancy later and I've badgered the heck out of him last summer to start taking the kids for hikes at a local state park. We're walking along the bike path since we had the stroller for Megan as she as only about 18 months old at that time...I had to go, BAD, and there wasn't anything around so I just said hold on a sec, and headed off behind a tree and did my business.

I came back and Paul, once again, was wide-eyed. I reminded him first of all of the Baby sitting on my bladder, then of when we were dating and he was like "Oh yeah"

Both of us were a little perturbed to realize just how much we'd lost ourselves over the years, especially me.

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I didn't edit that and it sure shows..sorry for the grammar/spelling errors!

MamaBeth

Elizabeth Roberts <mamabethuscg@...> wrote:

I'll never forget the look on Paul's face when we were dating. His parents live in an area called "Back Swamp" outside of Richlands, NC. We had this spot off the road down dirt track where we'd go parking...one night, having forgotten to go before leaving his parents' house, I excused myself and got out of the truck...took my purse and walked off a ways, did my business and cleaned up with a wet-wipe. I came back in the truck and Paul was like "Did you just go?" I was "Yeah, what'd you think I did?!"

He said I was the only women he'd ever dated who felt at home in the woods enough to just go take care of their business, let alone who carried wet-wipes and a plastic baggie in their purse just specifically for that purpose! I said "Well, I was a Girl Scout, I love camping, etc. and you never know when you might really have to go and there not be a bathroom around. Best to be prepared. Semper Paratus and all that! (LOL he got a kick out of me saying that, as it's the motto of the Coast Guard and we were both on active-duty at that point).

However...as we got married, we stopped hanging out in the woods so much. 9 years, 3 children and a pregnancy later and I've badgered the heck out of him last summer to start taking the kids for hikes at a local state park. We're walking along the bike path since we had the stroller for Megan as she as only about 18 months old at that time...I had to go, BAD, and there wasn't anything around so I just said hold on a sec, and headed off behind a tree and did my business.

I came back and Paul, once again, was wide-eyed. I reminded him first of all of the Baby sitting on my bladder, then of when we were dating and he was like "Oh yeah"

Both of us were a little perturbed to realize just how much we'd lost ourselves over the years, especially me.

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The Bucknum's

No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock. (No bush was visible, forgot
to mention.)
The pee didn't run off the rock. It was soaking in and evaporating faster
than it could run off. A truck driver was coming and I could've hurried, but I
thought, "This guy has peed on a rock many times, and he'll never see me
again anyway."

Sandra>>>>

Ha! You crack me up. This reminds me of the time I got caught so to speak. It was downtown in a parking garage. It was late and I was pregnant having no idea where we might find a bathroom I slipped behind a parked car. That's when we heard a group of people walking up the ramp from a lower level. My girlfriend pretended to be looking for her keys in her hand bag and noticed my little stream flowing down hill and started laughing. The group of people suddenly went sighlent and continued on past and quickly got into there car and closed the doors. We could still hear them giggling and squealing though. Anyway it wasn't until telling my story to some friends years latter that I realized that the reason they stopped talking was because they entered the parking level at a lower height and could *see* me peeing from under the car. AHHHHH! I'm just glad none of them would ever be able to recognise me.

Teresa



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The Bucknum's

<<I'm always amazed when someone says they've never gone outside, >>


My husband has a good one about that ------ Beer gardens, temp 25C, 2000 people 2 bathrooms.
The ladies made a circle and took turns peeing in the middle. Sounds gross but they were all hard core and were wearing Doc Martins or army boots. I still say knee high laceups are the best things when squatting drunk. ;-D

Teresa in Canada


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Lee-Ann and Robert Storer

>snip<
The ladies made a circle and took turns peeing in the middle. Sounds gross but they were all hard core and were wearing Doc Martins or army boots. I still say knee high laceups are the best things when squatting drunk. ;-D
>snip<

embarrasing story coming up -

I was extremely tipsy (alright I was plastered many years ago and I don't get like that now <g>) at a camping party. Picture the camp fire. Picture the '20 somethings' talking, drinking, toasting their eyeballs. Picture me dropping my shorts, sitting on a rock and peeing down hill into my shorts, right next to the campfire in full view of everyone. Now picture not very nurturing exhubby pitching me into the tent in disgust. Exhubby and drinking to excess are a thing of the past but the memory lingers on..

Lee-Ann in Australia




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Dawn Adams

Mary B. writes:
>Unless you count when I was 3 and 4, going outside along the road with a
>potty chair, I've never gone outside. Can't say I've ever been a postion
>where I had to. Don't think I want to be ther either!!

We used to go play in the woods all day as kids. I remember that we carefully constructed a toilet with big stones and stole a roll of toilet paper to keep there. With the berries to eat and mom's garden not too far away to raid we could stay out all day.
Dawn (in NS)




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In a message dated 1/2/04 8:44:32 PM, ctbucknum@... writes:

<< The ladies made a circle and took turns peeing in the middle. >>

I'm guessing facing outward, being a wall.
We've done that for people. It makes a windbreak (sometimes necessary) and a
"stall."

Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
>
>Ha! You crack me up. This reminds me of the time I got caught so to
>speak. It was downtown in a parking garage. It was late and I was
>pregnant having no idea where we might find a bathroom I slipped behind a
>parked car. That's when we heard a group of people walking up the ramp
>from a lower level. My girlfriend pretended to be looking for her keys in
>her hand bag and noticed my little stream flowing down hill and started
>laughing. The group of people suddenly went sighlent and continued on
>past and quickly got into there car and closed the doors. We could still
>hear them giggling and squealing though. Anyway it wasn't until telling
>my story to some friends years latter that I realized that the reason they
>stopped talking was because they entered the parking level at a lower
>height and could *see* me peeing from under the car. AHHHHH! I'm just
>glad none of them would ever be able to recognise me.

My aunt did a lot of travelling after she was widowed, and she liked to
tell the story of a tour she was on in Egypt. The bus stopped in the middle
of the desert, and a lot of people got off and headed out into the desert.
I'm pretty sure it was only the men. They'd squat down and pull their robes
up over their heads and do their business. She got such a chuckle out of
that, almost like ostriches with their heads in the sand. If I can't see
you, you can't see me. <g>
Tia

kayb85

Ok, forgive me for my hyper-cautiousness and conservative roots are
coming through here I think. But you could get arrested for that!
Guys get arrested for peeing alongside the road (exposing themselves)
and don't women have to be more undressed than men when they do
that?

Sheila

> No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock. (No bush was
visible, forgot
> to mention.)
> The pee didn't run off the rock. It was soaking in and evaporating
faster
> than it could run off. A truck driver was coming and I could've
hurried, but I
> thought, "This guy has peed on a rock many times, and he'll never
see me
> again anyway."

J. Stauffer

<<< But you could get arrested for that! >>>

And some laws aren't that sensible. People are very capable of urinating in
private...in public....you know <grin>.

I have been working for several years to follow principles not rules (laws).
Sometimes I do break laws for the better good (2 mothers of "failure to
thrive" newborns get goat milk from us which is technically illegal, but
goat milk is more nutrient dense than even human breast milk).

Sometimes I break laws because I believe that I should be the final
authority on my life ( I've drank alcohol since I was 13)

Sometimes I follow the law religiously because it is a good law (I report
situations that are dangerous to kids if talking to the adults involved has
been fruitless)

Julie S.---who rarely sees illegality as a compelling reason to monitor
herself

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Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: wide-world wetting


>
> Ok, forgive me for my hyper-cautiousness and conservative roots are
> coming through here I think. > Guys get arrested for peeing alongside the
road (exposing themselves)
> and don't women have to be more undressed than men when they do
> that?
>
> Sheila
>
> > No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock. (No bush was
> visible, forgot
> > to mention.)
> > The pee didn't run off the rock. It was soaking in and evaporating
> faster
> > than it could run off. A truck driver was coming and I could've
> hurried, but I
> > thought, "This guy has peed on a rock many times, and he'll never
> see me
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> Julie S.---who rarely sees illegality as a compelling reason to
monitor
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Oh, I agree. I'm just chicken about going to jail.

Sheila

Tia Leschke

>Ok, forgive me for my hyper-cautiousness and conservative roots are
>coming through here I think. But you could get arrested for that!
>Guys get arrested for peeing alongside the road (exposing themselves)
>and don't women have to be more undressed than men when they do
>that?

Wasn't this in the desert, with absolutely nothing around? Not likely a cop
was going to be driving by, and what would they do, tell her she was
required to wet her pants? Personally, I've been tempted to go right
outside a locked restroom more than a few times when I was told they were
only for customers.
Tia

J. Stauffer

<<< I'm just chicken about going to jail>>>

My dh just got a ticket for it....but that was California....on the side of
freeway....in the '80s.....on a roadtrip with lots of beer involved.

Julie S.
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That's why you a: make a stall with the doors of the car shielding you or you walk a distance away into the woods...and you just make it as quick as you can. If they REALLY want to arrest me for heeding nature's call, let them. But the law is too concerned with things like that and not enough with things that really matter.

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kayb85 <sheran@...> wrote:

Ok, forgive me for my hyper-cautiousness and conservative roots are
coming through here I think. But you could get arrested for that!
Guys get arrested for peeing alongside the road (exposing themselves)
and don't women have to be more undressed than men when they do
that?

Sheila

> No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock. (No bush was
visible, forgot
> to mention.)
> The pee didn't run off the rock. It was soaking in and evaporating
faster
> than it could run off. A truck driver was coming and I could've
hurried, but I
> thought, "This guy has peed on a rock many times, and he'll never
see me
> again anyway."




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Sandra said:
No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock.
~~~

This reminds me of something I grew up hearing about the rain. "It's raining
like a cow peeing on a flat rock!" So I thought you might be splashed,
Sandra.

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kayb85

> Sandra said:
> No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock.

Yeah, but then she said a truck was coming and she didn't hurry
because she figured that truck driver had peed on a rock before
too. ;)

I can see this turning into a huge issue and I don't want it to be!
I'm not criticizing, I'm admiring. lol I have NO problem with
anyone peeing on a rock on the side of the road. I have gone into
the woods to pee before and thought *that* was radical.

But for someone to not care that a truck driver might see me peeing
on a rock is REALLY cool. More cool than I could be because I'd be
scared he'd call the cops. ;)

Sheila

Deborah Lewis

***But for someone to not care that a truck driver might see me peeing
on a rock is REALLY cool***

I don't care if a truck driver sees you peeing on a rock. ; )

My friend Pat Hatmaker learned to pee in a pop can when she was out
flying with her boyfriend. I thought that was impressive. I flew with
a boyfriend once or twice but that was a drug induced flying and as far
as I can remember I didn't pee anywhere I wasn't supposed to.

Deb L

pam sorooshian

On Jan 3, 2004, at 10:45 AM, Tia Leschke wrote:

> Personally, I've been tempted to go right
> outside a locked restroom more than a few times when I was told they
> were
> only for customers.

My daughter threw up all over the display case of a bagel shop after
they refused to let us use the restroom and wouldn't even hand me a cup
after I said, "This child is about to vomit."

It was the owner of the place - a grumpy middle aged man. I grabbed
some napkins and wiped my daughter off and walked out leaving the mess.

-pam
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Tia Leschke

>
>
>My daughter threw up all over the display case of a bagel shop after
>they refused to let us use the restroom and wouldn't even hand me a cup
>after I said, "This child is about to vomit."

Good for her. <g>


>It was the owner of the place - a grumpy middle aged man. I grabbed
>some napkins and wiped my daughter off and walked out leaving the mess.

And good for you.
Tia

Elizabeth Roberts

huh....

MamaBeth

Barbara Moreda <homeiscool@...> wrote:
There is a website out there to show women how to pee standing up. They
suggest practicing in the shower first. :)

Barbara

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> ***But for someone to not care that a truck driver might see me peeing
> on a rock is REALLY cool***
>
> I don't care if a truck driver sees you peeing on a rock. ; )
>
> My friend Pat Hatmaker learned to pee in a pop can when she was out
> flying with her boyfriend. I thought that was impressive. I flew with
> a boyfriend once or twice but that was a drug induced flying and as far
> as I can remember I didn't pee anywhere I wasn't supposed to.
>
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Ooooooooo do you know what the URL is? I saw it on 'Full Monty' and thought that would be a pretty nifty skill to have.

Teresa in canada
----- Original Message -----
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There is a website out there to show women how to pee standing up. They
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In a message dated 1/3/04 11:05:29 AM, sheran@... writes:

<<

Ok, forgive me for my hyper-cautiousness and conservative roots are

coming through here I think. But you could get arrested for that!

Guys get arrested for peeing alongside the road (exposing themselves)

and don't women have to be more undressed than men when they do

that? >>

Where do you live?

Men don't expose themselves peeing alongside the roadside the way we're
talking about--highway 50 miles from a town with nothing but cactus (if even that).

Peeing by the roadside downtown outside a hotel or office building, yeah I
guess that could get a guy arrested.

Honestly, where do you live that you're thinking a mom will get arrested for
peeing by the side of a highway in Nevada?

Sandra

gehrkes

--- In [email protected], "kayb85" <sheran@p...>
wrote:
>
> Ok, forgive me for my hyper-cautiousness and conservative roots
are
> coming through here I think. But you could get arrested for
that!
> Guys get arrested for peeing alongside the road (exposing
themselves)
> and don't women have to be more undressed than men when they do
> that?
>
> Sheila
>
> > No car was visible. I got on a big flat rock. (No bush was
> visible, forgot
> > to mention.)
> > The pee didn't run off the rock. It was soaking in and
evaporating
> faster
> > than it could run off. A truck driver was coming and I
could've
> hurried, but I
> > thought, "This guy has peed on a rock many times, and he'll
never
> see me
> > again anyway."
I like to take that moment to wave and smile..
Kathleen
who would not pee outside today... brrr -20 in Montana