Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] paradigm shifts
Danielle E. Conger
I was just noticing how my own paradigm shifts were taking place. I think,
for me, I am almost there on lots of things but reading this list has been
really helpful in making that final break, you know?
I've been letting go of a lot of my tv controls, here. My kids are little
(6, 5 and 3.5), and we didn't have cable (no reception) for a long time, so
it was easy to regulate what they watched based on the kinds of videos we
bought and rented. Now that we have cable and my oldest is 6, I had been
relaxing quite a bit, and I know that this list has helped me do that even
more.
My kids have been really into Kim Possible for months now--since September
I guess when Disney released it. My oldest, Emily, is also really into
Batman and the Justice League, which isn't on tv, but I've been buying her
some coloring books (have to find a comic store) and borrowing tapes from
the library. I've realized how important it is for her right now to believe
in heroes and bravery. I think that unschooling has allowed me to see the
value in what she's choosing rather than dismissing it.
A couple of months ago we started inviting them to watch Star Wars with us
sometimes at night. We've allowed them to watch the less-scary scenes for a
long time now, but this time we just let them watch all of it. They really
like the first one when Annakin Skywalker is young--they can really
identify. Emily also really connected to the scene in the second one when
Yoda is teaching all the young paduans. She drew it the next day and
started talking about making a movie. That night we showed her some of the
extra stuff on some of the DVD's about storyboarding and how that's a
really important step in making a film. She thought it was really cool.
Those are just some of the really positive moments that stick out in my
head recently that have come out of my own paradigm shift, for which I'm
grateful.
--danielle
for me, I am almost there on lots of things but reading this list has been
really helpful in making that final break, you know?
I've been letting go of a lot of my tv controls, here. My kids are little
(6, 5 and 3.5), and we didn't have cable (no reception) for a long time, so
it was easy to regulate what they watched based on the kinds of videos we
bought and rented. Now that we have cable and my oldest is 6, I had been
relaxing quite a bit, and I know that this list has helped me do that even
more.
My kids have been really into Kim Possible for months now--since September
I guess when Disney released it. My oldest, Emily, is also really into
Batman and the Justice League, which isn't on tv, but I've been buying her
some coloring books (have to find a comic store) and borrowing tapes from
the library. I've realized how important it is for her right now to believe
in heroes and bravery. I think that unschooling has allowed me to see the
value in what she's choosing rather than dismissing it.
A couple of months ago we started inviting them to watch Star Wars with us
sometimes at night. We've allowed them to watch the less-scary scenes for a
long time now, but this time we just let them watch all of it. They really
like the first one when Annakin Skywalker is young--they can really
identify. Emily also really connected to the scene in the second one when
Yoda is teaching all the young paduans. She drew it the next day and
started talking about making a movie. That night we showed her some of the
extra stuff on some of the DVD's about storyboarding and how that's a
really important step in making a film. She thought it was really cool.
Those are just some of the really positive moments that stick out in my
head recently that have come out of my own paradigm shift, for which I'm
grateful.
--danielle
Elizabeth Roberts
Normally, I hardly ever buy ice-cream. Breyers is currently on sale at my local grocery for $1.99 each. Normally $4.99. So I bought three. And cones. And I'm going to let them have double scoops. I am thinking about going back tomorrow and getting a couple more..along the lines of the ever-lasting candy bowl that was discussed awhile back.
Also...while we were out today...I bought myself a baton. I've always enjoyed twirling one, although I'm not spectacular with it. But I like twirling it. So I went and bought myself one. Sarah wants me to teach her to twirl, so I'll teach her what I know. But it occured to me that just because I'm "a grownup" now doesn't really mean I have to leave all of childhood behind, right?
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Also...while we were out today...I bought myself a baton. I've always enjoyed twirling one, although I'm not spectacular with it. But I like twirling it. So I went and bought myself one. Sarah wants me to teach her to twirl, so I'll teach her what I know. But it occured to me that just because I'm "a grownup" now doesn't really mean I have to leave all of childhood behind, right?
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J. Stauffer
<<<<I've always enjoyed twirling one, although I'm not spectacular with it.
But I like twirling it. So I went and bought myself one.>>>>
The freedom!!! The joy!!!!
It makes me happy to think of you and your baton. Enjoy.
Julie S.
But I like twirling it. So I went and bought myself one.>>>>
The freedom!!! The joy!!!!
It makes me happy to think of you and your baton. Enjoy.
Julie S.
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Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] paradigm shifts
> Normally, I hardly ever buy ice-cream. Breyers is currently on sale at my
local grocery for $1.99 each. Normally $4.99. So I bought three. And cones.
And I'm going to let them have double scoops. I am thinking about going back
tomorrow and getting a couple more..along the lines of the ever-lasting
candy bowl that was discussed awhile back.
>
> Also...while we were out today...I bought myself a baton. Sarah wants me
to teach her to twirl, so I'll teach her what I know. But it occured to me
that just because I'm "a grownup" now doesn't really mean I have to leave
all of childhood behind, right?
>
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<<Also...while we were out today...I bought myself a baton. I've always
enjoyed twirling one, although I'm not spectacular with it. But I like
twirling it. So I went and bought myself one. Sarah wants me to teach her to
twirl, so I'll teach her what I know. But it occured to me that just because
I'm "a grownup" now doesn't really mean I have to leave all of childhood
behind, right?>>
LOL!! Good for you all around. On the goodies and the fun stuff for you!! I
had this image of you twirling around in your living room as I read it!
Today we had a day out with Joseph only. Joe and I took him out and did some
clothes shopping. He's getting into what he's wearing now and choosing the
longer shorts and bigger shirts. His birthday is on Sunday and we take a day
with each child to hang out. It's not the only time we do it, but it's
mandatory at birthdays. <bg> So he picked out clothes and a few *presents*
that he got today. And while we were out, Joe (dh) bought roller blades. 41
and never roller bladed in his life!!!! He's got more guts than I do that's
for sure!! At 6'2" he has farther to fall. So we took the kids out to the
school parking lot tonight and let them practice with their scooters and Joe
got to try his roller blades out. I was impressed for a big old guy!!!
So you can learn to twirl and he can learn to skate. Anyone else trying
anything new? We can make a parade!!
Mary B.
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<<Also...while we were out today...I bought myself a baton. I've always
enjoyed twirling one, although I'm not spectacular with it. But I like
twirling it. So I went and bought myself one. Sarah wants me to teach her to
twirl, so I'll teach her what I know. But it occured to me that just because
I'm "a grownup" now doesn't really mean I have to leave all of childhood
behind, right?>>
LOL!! Good for you all around. On the goodies and the fun stuff for you!! I
had this image of you twirling around in your living room as I read it!
Today we had a day out with Joseph only. Joe and I took him out and did some
clothes shopping. He's getting into what he's wearing now and choosing the
longer shorts and bigger shirts. His birthday is on Sunday and we take a day
with each child to hang out. It's not the only time we do it, but it's
mandatory at birthdays. <bg> So he picked out clothes and a few *presents*
that he got today. And while we were out, Joe (dh) bought roller blades. 41
and never roller bladed in his life!!!! He's got more guts than I do that's
for sure!! At 6'2" he has farther to fall. So we took the kids out to the
school parking lot tonight and let them practice with their scooters and Joe
got to try his roller blades out. I was impressed for a big old guy!!!
So you can learn to twirl and he can learn to skate. Anyone else trying
anything new? We can make a parade!!
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
Elizabeth Roberts
Mary B,
Well, not learning any new tricks but certainly refreshing my memory of old ones! I have been twirling all over the house..sitting reading a book in the recliner with my arm dangling over the side twirling away...
That's pretty cool about your DH picking up blading. I am making plans to pick up a set of skates for myself...I sure have been happier lately since letting go, and remembering how to be my true self instead of how I think I "should" be.
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Well, not learning any new tricks but certainly refreshing my memory of old ones! I have been twirling all over the house..sitting reading a book in the recliner with my arm dangling over the side twirling away...
That's pretty cool about your DH picking up blading. I am making plans to pick up a set of skates for myself...I sure have been happier lately since letting go, and remembering how to be my true self instead of how I think I "should" be.
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I am coming to your house for ice cream and some quality baton twirling
entertainment :)
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entertainment :)
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Elizabeth Roberts
Denise,
If you're ever on Cape Cod before we leave it in 2005, you're certainly welcome to stop by!
MamaBeth
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I am coming to your house for ice cream and some quality baton twirling
entertainment :)
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If you're ever on Cape Cod before we leave it in 2005, you're certainly welcome to stop by!
MamaBeth
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entertainment :)
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Dawn Adams
Normally, I hardly ever buy ice-cream. Breyers is currently on sale at my local grocery for $1.99 each. Normally $4.99. So I bought three. And cones. And I'm going to let them have double scoops. I am thinking about going back tomorrow and getting a couple more..along the lines of the ever-lasting candy bowl that was discussed awhile back.
Dawn (in NS)
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>>>>>>>>>>Here's some of my shift...I went out 4 days after christmas and saw 3 D&K computer game titles bundled together for $10 as well as a lion king II game my daughter wanted for $10 as well. I had no problem happily buying them to surprise my daughter so close to Christmas. I've given up Martha Stewart fantasies as my kids' Lego table, wooden blocks and easel have become part of the kitchen, their wooden train set is wound around the coffee table in the living room and I'm planning a storage center/seat and shelving in one area in the living room for their toys. I now feel good when my living room floor is cluttered with toys insteas of rageful. I used to think their bedroom was theirs but the house was mine. I now look at their bedroom as a santuary (as I see mine) and everyother room as theirs as well.
Dawn (in NS)
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pam sorooshian
On Jan 3, 2004, at 4:08 AM, Dawn Adams wrote:
time ago in a galaxy far far away <G>. Its that big deal made out of
decorating the "baby's room" that happens when someone gets pregnant
the first time - that's what creates that idea, I guess <G>.
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> I used to think their bedroom was theirs but the house was mine.Oh gosh. I had totally forgotten ever having that fantasy, too, a long
time ago in a galaxy far far away <G>. Its that big deal made out of
decorating the "baby's room" that happens when someone gets pregnant
the first time - that's what creates that idea, I guess <G>.
-pam
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baby rooms just right for both my boys. They rarely used the rooms
the first year except maybe to sleep. Now they share a room for
sleeping and have the other for a nice playroom for all their toys.
People always seem so concerned about kids sharing rooms. It works
far batter for us and we will deal with changing things around once
they want that seperation. It is extra security to share a room
with someone.
We have a spare bedroom now that we are setting up the Legos in. We
have alot of the Harry Potter set and I hated to leave it where any
visitors could trash it and lose the pieces. This way they can
leave it up or build it as they like and it is safe. I am also
putting my art supplies in there to start working on my art again
(thank goodness!!!!!!!!!!). That room is eventually been earmarked
for the next baby that rolls around (who knows when)! I have to
admit being a bit torn. The old baby sets I have would look awfully
cute in there but I think by the time we get around to baby 3, I
won't be willing to give up the space and most likely logic will set
in as I know we would hardly use it!!
Olga :)
<pamsoroosh@m...> wrote:
> >. Its that big deal made out ofpregnant
> decorating the "baby's room" that happens when someone gets
> the first time - that's what creates that idea, I guess <G>.Thats the truth. I went through this whole ordeal with getting the
>
> -pam
baby rooms just right for both my boys. They rarely used the rooms
the first year except maybe to sleep. Now they share a room for
sleeping and have the other for a nice playroom for all their toys.
People always seem so concerned about kids sharing rooms. It works
far batter for us and we will deal with changing things around once
they want that seperation. It is extra security to share a room
with someone.
We have a spare bedroom now that we are setting up the Legos in. We
have alot of the Harry Potter set and I hated to leave it where any
visitors could trash it and lose the pieces. This way they can
leave it up or build it as they like and it is safe. I am also
putting my art supplies in there to start working on my art again
(thank goodness!!!!!!!!!!). That room is eventually been earmarked
for the next baby that rolls around (who knows when)! I have to
admit being a bit torn. The old baby sets I have would look awfully
cute in there but I think by the time we get around to baby 3, I
won't be willing to give up the space and most likely logic will set
in as I know we would hardly use it!!
Olga :)
Elizabeth Roberts
I'm not replying to anything in specific, just the idea of decorating children's rooms..nurseries were brought up specifically though...ANYWAY...
I was reading some teen novel I picked up at my friend's house and the character mentions that her walls are covered in her own artwork directly on the walls...graffiti-like. Started when she was 2 and got ahold of a crayon when she was supposed to be napping. Her parents kept it up on the wall, and allowed her to move on from there.
It struck me...how cool is that?! I think there was a similar article not too long ago in HEM about parents who let their child paint on his walls, and it was about the same graffiti-ish look...it also caught my attention. Twice here lately...
Unfortunately, while I REALLY don't mind children's art on the walls, or ON the walls themselves, Paul does. But I talked to him about it and he says he doesn't care as long as 1) it's washable marker/crayon and 2) I personally do the scrubbing before any inspection. He says it looks awful...but all I see is budding talent and personality (the culprit being my two year old free-spirit Megan).
So guess what I'll be picking up on my next shopping trip? I'll have to take some pictures to save for her. I can easily picture Megan with some sunlit attic studio in her future...unless she's on stage (here lately she's taken to standing on the table saying "Ta-DA" with her arms outstretched, has been standing/dancing on the table ..sometimes naked..since she could walk at 10 months).
MamaBeth
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I was reading some teen novel I picked up at my friend's house and the character mentions that her walls are covered in her own artwork directly on the walls...graffiti-like. Started when she was 2 and got ahold of a crayon when she was supposed to be napping. Her parents kept it up on the wall, and allowed her to move on from there.
It struck me...how cool is that?! I think there was a similar article not too long ago in HEM about parents who let their child paint on his walls, and it was about the same graffiti-ish look...it also caught my attention. Twice here lately...
Unfortunately, while I REALLY don't mind children's art on the walls, or ON the walls themselves, Paul does. But I talked to him about it and he says he doesn't care as long as 1) it's washable marker/crayon and 2) I personally do the scrubbing before any inspection. He says it looks awful...but all I see is budding talent and personality (the culprit being my two year old free-spirit Megan).
So guess what I'll be picking up on my next shopping trip? I'll have to take some pictures to save for her. I can easily picture Megan with some sunlit attic studio in her future...unless she's on stage (here lately she's taken to standing on the table saying "Ta-DA" with her arms outstretched, has been standing/dancing on the table ..sometimes naked..since she could walk at 10 months).
MamaBeth
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Robyn Coburn
<<the first year except maybe to sleep. Now they share a room for
sleeping and have the other for a nice playroom for all their toys.>>
We are so looking forward to Jayn having her own room for all or most of her
stuff to be in. She is full of ideas for decorating it and likes looking at
catalogues with pictures of children's rooms. James has the idea that she
will sleep in there, but I'm not sure that it will work out that way. I am
looking forward to it as a storage solution - at the moment we have only one
bedroom (so her stuff is in there too) and use the dining area as an office
so the living room is multi-tasking as family room, dining room, sewing room
and Jayn's playroom. I turned the "coat closet" in the living room into
Jayn's tiny play room and since she sometimes likes to play privately there
(as well as have a storage area) I imagine that her own room will be used in
the same way. James has the idea that her toys won't migrate, but I doubt
that heartily. The other things we are looking forward to are a
sewing/crafts room that we will share, a radio shack for James' electronic
gizmos, and a garden.
Robyn L. Coburn
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sleeping and have the other for a nice playroom for all their toys.>>
We are so looking forward to Jayn having her own room for all or most of her
stuff to be in. She is full of ideas for decorating it and likes looking at
catalogues with pictures of children's rooms. James has the idea that she
will sleep in there, but I'm not sure that it will work out that way. I am
looking forward to it as a storage solution - at the moment we have only one
bedroom (so her stuff is in there too) and use the dining area as an office
so the living room is multi-tasking as family room, dining room, sewing room
and Jayn's playroom. I turned the "coat closet" in the living room into
Jayn's tiny play room and since she sometimes likes to play privately there
(as well as have a storage area) I imagine that her own room will be used in
the same way. James has the idea that her toys won't migrate, but I doubt
that heartily. The other things we are looking forward to are a
sewing/crafts room that we will share, a radio shack for James' electronic
gizmos, and a garden.
Robyn L. Coburn
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The Bucknum's
<<<I was reading some teen novel I picked up at my friend's house and the character mentions that her walls are covered in her own artwork directly on the walls...graffiti-like. Started when she was 2 and got ahold of a crayon when she was supposed to be napping. Her parents kept it up on the wall, and allowed her to move on from there.
~~snipped~~
MamaBeth>>>>
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Too bad this isn't our forever house or I wouldn't complain when my Dd does it.
There is a type of painting/wall treatment (popular in the waldorf community) called something like lazuer (sp?). Where you paint the wall with a white non absorbent paint. Then you use washable/watercolor paints to make a color effect, soft and relaxing that can be washed off and redone each season. Thought that sounded pretty cool. It might be an idea for your daughter as long as she doesn't use pens that would make indents in the paint surface. Ikea also has those magnet boards that you can write on. You can get sheets of plexi glass type stuff to write on to. There is the chalkboard paint I think comes in more then one colour (they also make magnetic paint you can use under regular paint)
You could also let her go wild in her closet where Daddy doesn't see it. What do mean "inspection"? Does he do the white glove test and make sure your cleaning her room properly. I'm sorry but that's just plain wrong. Assuming I've read your post right. You can come live with me and my Dh. He blusters a bit at my lack of housecleaning but would never presume to not 'allow' me to do something. He's not my Daddy he's my Mate, partner, other half, legal description husband doesn't give him authority over me. If he has a problem he talks to me about it. Sorry if I read you wrong I don't mean to attack I'm just really really sensitive to the whole "Husband in control of his wife" issue.
Teresa in Canada
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~~snipped~~
MamaBeth>>>>
I was thinking about doing the same thing. Too bad this isn't our forever house or I wouldn't complain when my Dd does it.
There is a type of painting/wall treatment (popular in the waldorf community) called something like lazuer (sp?). Where you paint the wall with a white non absorbent paint. Then you use washable/watercolor paints to make a color effect, soft and relaxing that can be washed off and redone each season. Thought that sounded pretty cool. It might be an idea for your daughter as long as she doesn't use pens that would make indents in the paint surface. Ikea also has those magnet boards that you can write on. You can get sheets of plexi glass type stuff to write on to. There is the chalkboard paint I think comes in more then one colour (they also make magnetic paint you can use under regular paint)
You could also let her go wild in her closet where Daddy doesn't see it. What do mean "inspection"? Does he do the white glove test and make sure your cleaning her room properly. I'm sorry but that's just plain wrong. Assuming I've read your post right. You can come live with me and my Dh. He blusters a bit at my lack of housecleaning but would never presume to not 'allow' me to do something. He's not my Daddy he's my Mate, partner, other half, legal description husband doesn't give him authority over me. If he has a problem he talks to me about it. Sorry if I read you wrong I don't mean to attack I'm just really really sensitive to the whole "Husband in control of his wife" issue.
Teresa in Canada
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Tia Leschke
>I think she posted another time that they're in military housing with
> You could also let her go wild in her closet where Daddy doesn't see
> it. What do mean "inspection"? Does he do the white glove test and make
> sure your cleaning her room properly. I'm sorry but that's just plain
> wrong. Assuming I've read your post right. You can come live with me
> and my Dh. He blusters a bit at my lack of housecleaning but would never
> presume to not 'allow' me to do something. He's not my Daddy he's my
> Mate, partner, other half, legal description husband doesn't give him
> authority over me. If he has a problem he talks to me about it. Sorry
> if I read you wrong I don't mean to attack I'm just really really
> sensitive to the whole "Husband in control of his wife" issue.
really strict rules.
Tia
The Bucknum's
<<<<<I think she posted another time that they're in military housing with
really strict rules.
Tia>>>>>>
O.K. makes sense then. That would be a lot different then what I was thinking. Sorry for the mistake.
Teresa in Canada
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O.K. makes sense then. That would be a lot different then what I was thinking. Sorry for the mistake.
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<<<her walls are covered in her own artwork directly on the
walls...graffiti-like.>>>
When Diego Rivera was a small child, he tended to paint and color on the
walls. So his mom gave him one wall that was completely his.....not that
all our kids would grow up to be famous muralists.
Julie S.
walls...graffiti-like.>>>
When Diego Rivera was a small child, he tended to paint and color on the
walls. So his mom gave him one wall that was completely his.....not that
all our kids would grow up to be famous muralists.
Julie S.
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From: "Elizabeth Roberts" <mamabethuscg@...>
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Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 3:58 PM
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: children's rooms (was paradigm shifts)
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> I'm not replying to anything in specific, just the idea of decorating
children's rooms..nurseries were brought up specifically though...ANYWAY...
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> I was reading some teen novel I picked up at my friend's house and the
character mentions that Started when she was 2 and got ahold of a crayon
when she was supposed to be napping. Her parents kept it up on the wall, and
allowed her to move on from there.
>
> It struck me...how cool is that?! I think there was a similar article not
too long ago in HEM about parents who let their child paint on his walls,
and it was about the same graffiti-ish look...it also caught my attention.
Twice here lately...
>
> Unfortunately, while I REALLY don't mind children's art on the walls, or
ON the walls themselves, Paul does. But I talked to him about it and he says
he doesn't care as long as 1) it's washable marker/crayon and 2) I
personally do the scrubbing before any inspection. He says it looks
awful...but all I see is budding talent and personality (the culprit being
my two year old free-spirit Megan).
>
> So guess what I'll be picking up on my next shopping trip? I'll have to
take some pictures to save for her. I can easily picture Megan with some
sunlit attic studio in her future...unless she's on stage (here lately she's
taken to standing on the table saying "Ta-DA" with her arms outstretched,
has been standing/dancing on the table ..sometimes naked..since she could
walk at 10 months).
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Teresa,
My husband is in the Coast Guard. We live in military housing, and have a yearly inspection. We're liable for any damages to the property, and while having been a house painter for a living, Paul doesn't want to have to repaint anything when we're looking to move. To me it's not a big deal if we have to repaint a couple walls, and I'd gladly do the work myself....but in general, despite agreeing with me about homeschooling (he's not wild about unschooling per se, but figures I've got it under control) he's very much my polar opposite in some ways.
I talked about painting that area (it's the hallway that is her preferred canvas) with chalkboard paint, or putting up a couple large markerboards to take down and move with us...or even getting rolls of butcher paper from a school-supply catalog I have and taping sheets of it along the wall...and the only thing he's agreed to is just using washable marker/crayon.
Also, like I said, he just sees "mess" and not the artistry or creativity of it.
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My husband is in the Coast Guard. We live in military housing, and have a yearly inspection. We're liable for any damages to the property, and while having been a house painter for a living, Paul doesn't want to have to repaint anything when we're looking to move. To me it's not a big deal if we have to repaint a couple walls, and I'd gladly do the work myself....but in general, despite agreeing with me about homeschooling (he's not wild about unschooling per se, but figures I've got it under control) he's very much my polar opposite in some ways.
I talked about painting that area (it's the hallway that is her preferred canvas) with chalkboard paint, or putting up a couple large markerboards to take down and move with us...or even getting rolls of butcher paper from a school-supply catalog I have and taping sheets of it along the wall...and the only thing he's agreed to is just using washable marker/crayon.
Also, like I said, he just sees "mess" and not the artistry or creativity of it.
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don't worry about it :-) it's ok! Although..just a hint..if you look at my email address..the USCG after MamaBeth stands for United States Coast Guard. Paul and I met at boot camp...I'm out now though.
MamaBeth
The Bucknum's <ctbucknum@...> wrote:
<<<<<I think she posted another time that they're in military housing with
really strict rules.
Tia>>>>>>
O.K. makes sense then. That would be a lot different then what I was thinking. Sorry for the mistake.
Teresa in Canada
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O.K. makes sense then. That would be a lot different then what I was thinking. Sorry for the mistake.
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How about a compromise and just have one wall or even part of the wall for
the drawing. That's what I did when the kids were younger. There was one
small wall section in their room where the drawings were. Didn't matter what
they drew it with, a little leftover paint would always take care of the
problem. And the kids love to paint too!! Tara even went in there to doodle
from time to time. Whenever she had friends over, it was one of the first
things she showed them. They always signed there name too!
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the drawing. That's what I did when the kids were younger. There was one
small wall section in their room where the drawings were. Didn't matter what
they drew it with, a little leftover paint would always take care of the
problem. And the kids love to paint too!! Tara even went in there to doodle
from time to time. Whenever she had friends over, it was one of the first
things she showed them. They always signed there name too!
Mary B.
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Elizabeth Roberts
That's what we'll do...we'll allow it on that wall and provide washable markers/crayons, and it can stay up until an inspection. We'll take a picture of it to save, and voila! new canvas afterwards...or when it gets full. It's taken ALOT of talking about it, but I'm glad that Paul is willing to "overlook the mess" on that wall.
MamaBeth
Mary <mummy124@...> wrote:
How about a compromise and just have one wall or even part of the wall for
the drawing. That's what I did when the kids were younger. There was one
small wall section in their room where the drawings were. Didn't matter what
they drew it with, a little leftover paint would always take care of the
problem. And the kids love to paint too!! Tara even went in there to doodle
from time to time. Whenever she had friends over, it was one of the first
things she showed them. They always signed there name too!
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Mary <mummy124@...> wrote:
How about a compromise and just have one wall or even part of the wall for
the drawing. That's what I did when the kids were younger. There was one
small wall section in their room where the drawings were. Didn't matter what
they drew it with, a little leftover paint would always take care of the
problem. And the kids love to paint too!! Tara even went in there to doodle
from time to time. Whenever she had friends over, it was one of the first
things she showed them. They always signed there name too!
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Have any of you used that "Chalkboard" paint? It's supposed to come out of
the can just like a chalkboard, so the kids can draw on their walls and erase.
Never have tried it yet!
Nancy B. in WV
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the can just like a chalkboard, so the kids can draw on their walls and erase.
Never have tried it yet!
Nancy B. in WV
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>How about a compromise and just have one wall or even part of the wall forA woman I know who weaves and makes rugs for a living has a set of markers
>the drawing. That's what I did when the kids were younger. There was one
>small wall section in their room where the drawings were. Didn't matter what
>they drew it with, a little leftover paint would always take care of the
>problem. And the kids love to paint too!! Tara even went in there to doodle
>from time to time. Whenever she had friends over, it was one of the first
>things she showed them. They always signed there name too!
in her studio. Visitors are handed the box of markers and invited to write
quotes they particularly like. The walls are completely covered with
interesting reading.
Tia
Robyn Coburn
<<.and the only thing he's agreed to is just using washable marker/crayon.
washable from skin and cloth, but still stain some types of paint. I found
this out in my mother's house! I had to use tea tree oil and rubbing
alcohol.
On an impractical note, it makes me sad to think of a father being so
unkindly judgmental about his children's important art work. I hope he
doesn't tell them he thinks their art is mess, or discourage art work on
paper. A lot of early art work is pre-writing (as in penmanship) rather than
purely art - maybe that idea will help him reconcile to it. ;)
Robyn L. Coburn
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>>On a practical note, beware of washable markers - some of them are perfectly
washable from skin and cloth, but still stain some types of paint. I found
this out in my mother's house! I had to use tea tree oil and rubbing
alcohol.
On an impractical note, it makes me sad to think of a father being so
unkindly judgmental about his children's important art work. I hope he
doesn't tell them he thinks their art is mess, or discourage art work on
paper. A lot of early art work is pre-writing (as in penmanship) rather than
purely art - maybe that idea will help him reconcile to it. ;)
Robyn L. Coburn
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Fetteroll
on 1/3/04 10:53 PM, CelticFrau@... at CelticFrau@... wrote:
chalkboard. It doesn't erase as cleanly but it does wash off cleanly.
Joyce
> Have any of you used that "Chalkboard" paint? It's supposed to come out ofYes! We have one wall covered in it. It's almost as good as a real
> the can just like a chalkboard, so the kids can draw on their walls and erase.
> Never have tried it yet!
chalkboard. It doesn't erase as cleanly but it does wash off cleanly.
Joyce
Elizabeth Roberts
Put that way..considering Megan's "developmental delays" it's also fine motor skills! No, he hasn't said it directly to Megan (who is 2) but he has yelled it at me, made other complaints to me (she's also drawn on the couch that we bought last year...one I would NOT have chosen as it's tan...but it wasn't that expensive, and we'd already said that we needed something just for the preschool years when it was likely to get messed up, but he's upset about the way the couch is now and I could care less...throw a sheet over it!)
ANYWAY...
MamaBeth
Robyn Coburn <dezigna@...> wrote:
<<.and the only thing he's agreed to is just using washable marker/crayon.
washable from skin and cloth, but still stain some types of paint. I found
this out in my mother's house! I had to use tea tree oil and rubbing
alcohol.
On an impractical note, it makes me sad to think of a father being so
unkindly judgmental about his children's important art work. I hope he
doesn't tell them he thinks their art is mess, or discourage art work on
paper. A lot of early art work is pre-writing (as in penmanship) rather than
purely art - maybe that idea will help him reconcile to it. ;)
Robyn L. Coburn
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ANYWAY...
MamaBeth
Robyn Coburn <dezigna@...> wrote:
<<.and the only thing he's agreed to is just using washable marker/crayon.
>>On a practical note, beware of washable markers - some of them are perfectly
washable from skin and cloth, but still stain some types of paint. I found
this out in my mother's house! I had to use tea tree oil and rubbing
alcohol.
On an impractical note, it makes me sad to think of a father being so
unkindly judgmental about his children's important art work. I hope he
doesn't tell them he thinks their art is mess, or discourage art work on
paper. A lot of early art work is pre-writing (as in penmanship) rather than
purely art - maybe that idea will help him reconcile to it. ;)
Robyn L. Coburn
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At 10:53 PM 1/3/2004 -0500, CelticFrau@... wrote:
half of a closet door with the stuff and just painted over it when we
left--it covered pretty well.
When we moved in here, there was a 3' x 3' panel door covering our circuit
box on one wall downstairs. Looked dumb, like a picture frame with nothing
in it. I painted it with chalkboard paint, and it looks like one of those
expensive chalkboards from Pottery Barn or something hanging on my wall. I
keep my monthly calendar chalked up on it.
In the kitchen, dh and I built a floor to ceiling chalkboard on the bottom
and top, with a corkboard for artwork in the middle. The kids get the
chalkboard on the bottom to play with while I use the top one for grocery
lists, phone numbers, etc.
--danielle
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>Have any of you used that "Chalkboard" paint?I have, and I love it. When we lived in an apartment, I painted the lower
half of a closet door with the stuff and just painted over it when we
left--it covered pretty well.
When we moved in here, there was a 3' x 3' panel door covering our circuit
box on one wall downstairs. Looked dumb, like a picture frame with nothing
in it. I painted it with chalkboard paint, and it looks like one of those
expensive chalkboards from Pottery Barn or something hanging on my wall. I
keep my monthly calendar chalked up on it.
In the kitchen, dh and I built a floor to ceiling chalkboard on the bottom
and top, with a corkboard for artwork in the middle. The kids get the
chalkboard on the bottom to play with while I use the top one for grocery
lists, phone numbers, etc.
--danielle
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Dawn Adams
Mamabeth writes:
I had her attitude for a little while. I'd look at our grey velour monster couch and wish for a nice one. I'm over that now. A nice one would be peed on, marked on, jumped on, spilled on in no time and likely not be half as comfortable. :)
Dawn (in NS)
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>Put that way..considering Megan's "developmental delays" it's also fine motor skills! No, >he hasn't said it directly to Megan (who is 2) but he has yelled it at me, made other >complaints to me (she's also drawn on the couch that we bought last year...one I would >NOT have chosen as it's tan...but it wasn't that expensive, and we'd already said that we >needed something just for the preschool years when it was likely to get messed up, but >he's upset about the way the couch is now and I could care less...throw a sheet over it!)I'm just buying used or very cheap furniture for the next ten years. My mother always used to (well, still does) go on about what she lost when we were kids and how kids should be taught to respect furniture. She would buy nice furniture and moan a year later when it was marked or banged. She had four kids, two were diagnosed ADHD, what did she expect???
I had her attitude for a little while. I'd look at our grey velour monster couch and wish for a nice one. I'm over that now. A nice one would be peed on, marked on, jumped on, spilled on in no time and likely not be half as comfortable. :)
Dawn (in NS)
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Wishbone@... writes:
<< I had her attitude for a little while. I'd look at our grey velour
monster couch and wish for a nice one. I'm over that now. A nice one would be peed
on, marked on, jumped on, spilled on in no time and likely not be half as
comfortable. :)>>
I also have a "grey velour monster couch" donated to me by a friend who was
moving. I hate the way it looks, but it's so comfortable (that's where I
sleep). Ex-MIL recently wanted to buy us a new sofa because she felt guilty that
we can't afford nice furniture like my exhusband and his wife have. Luckily I
was able to persuade her to get us a nice new computer instead! It's gotten
so much use, and I don't have to tell my children to be careful not to ruin the
sofa Nana got them!
--Jacqueline
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Wishbone@... writes:
<< I had her attitude for a little while. I'd look at our grey velour
monster couch and wish for a nice one. I'm over that now. A nice one would be peed
on, marked on, jumped on, spilled on in no time and likely not be half as
comfortable. :)>>
I also have a "grey velour monster couch" donated to me by a friend who was
moving. I hate the way it looks, but it's so comfortable (that's where I
sleep). Ex-MIL recently wanted to buy us a new sofa because she felt guilty that
we can't afford nice furniture like my exhusband and his wife have. Luckily I
was able to persuade her to get us a nice new computer instead! It's gotten
so much use, and I don't have to tell my children to be careful not to ruin the
sofa Nana got them!
--Jacqueline
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Samantha Stopple
Another thing you can do is paint Magnetic Paint first then paint chalkboard
paint over it then you you have a magnetice chalkboard!
I have heard that you need at least three coats of the magnetic paint to make
it work well.
Samantha
paint over it then you you have a magnetice chalkboard!
I have heard that you need at least three coats of the magnetic paint to make
it work well.
Samantha
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In a message dated 1/4/04 11:10:48 AM, ivorygrace7@... writes:
<< I also have a "grey velour monster couch" donated to me by a friend who
was
moving. I hate the way it looks, but it's so comfortable (that's where I
sleep). >>
Me too, me too, me too, and though it folds out into a bed, it's WAY more
comfortable just the way it is. UGLY and stained, but perfect to sit on or sleep
on.
Sandra
<< I also have a "grey velour monster couch" donated to me by a friend who
was
moving. I hate the way it looks, but it's so comfortable (that's where I
sleep). >>
Me too, me too, me too, and though it folds out into a bed, it's WAY more
comfortable just the way it is. UGLY and stained, but perfect to sit on or sleep
on.
Sandra