Time spent in bathroom was :Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] classroom wetting
Barbara Moreda
Mine can't ... we only have ONE ... and it seems as soon as someone gets in,
another wants in, too! LOL
Barbara
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another wants in, too! LOL
Barbara
Barbara Moreda
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----- Original Message -----
From: <SandraDodd@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] classroom wetting
>
> In a message dated 1/1/04 6:36:57 PM, treegoddess@... writes:
>
> << My sister is still angry at her 2nd grade teacher who denied her the
> right to use the bathroom. Second day at a new school and she pees all
> over her seat because the teacher was just "too busy" teaching to let a
> little girl go use the toilet. Nice. >>
>
> I bet if we just collected a book-length set of the tales of kids who have
> been made to urinate or defecate out of fear of the teacher we'd fill a
book
> without ever getting to the "I asked to go and she said no" and never
NEVER get
> to "I finally got to go to recess and didn't want to miss a minute of
playing
> to go pee so I went on the swing/slide accidentally."
>
> Would anyone ever send their children to school again? Would teachers
who
> showed up in the tellings more than once need to have court-ordered
parenting
> classes or fine/jail time for child abuse?
>
> It's horrible when these stories get rolling.
>
> Yet from the teachers' point of view, I think all teachers know of kids
who
> said they needed to go but really wanted to go visiting, or to smoke, or
to
> vandalize some enemy's locker, or worse than any of that.
>
> So the answer is: Keep your kids home if you can!
>
> Tadaa! My kids can spend all the time in the bathroom they want now.
>
> Sandra
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In a message dated 1/2/2004 5:46:26 AM Eastern Standard Time,
homeiscool@... writes:
So the answer is: Keep your kids home if you can!
keep our youngest home. She had a female emergency and asked to go to the
bathroom. The teacher said no, repeatedly said NO. She even told him the
reason why she had to go, humiliated as he made her say it outloud to the class.
She was young, in middle school, kids were hooting and carrying on. The
teacher, a very young first year male teacher, seemed to make a game of it. Cait
was a quiet student and would never have asked to go at all if it weren't an
emergency. He knew she wasn't a loud student who would be demanding and just
walk out. He was a bully on a power trip and enjoying it. He made a point of
letting two other flirty type girls go to the bathroom when they asked once,
after Cait repeatedly asked.
Luckily it was the last class of the day, and she came home, devastated and
in tears. She certainly would not be returning to that mess. As it happened
her dad was home when she came in and he finally saw the devastation that
school was causing. He went immediately to the school and met with principals and
everyone he could find (and probably a good thing he couldn't find the
teacher) and explained the situation and how if this teacher EVER embarrassed a child
like that again he would promptly find a way to embarrass the teacher equally
in front of his peers.
I got phone calls from parents of students who were in the room that
afternoon, asking if it was true and saying they were sorry and their children felt
badly they hadn't in some way tried to defend or stop the ugliness.
The teacher still teaches, they just moved him to the high school and now let
him coach there too. Guess they figured as a first year teacher he had a lot
to learn about dealing with children and they would somehow help him.
Teachers are all across the spectrum of society, just like with everything
else. There can be mean bully types and kind loving dedicated types and
everything in between. I can't see taking the chance with a child of mine to go
through anything like that again. As a parent you really have no control other
than taking the child out of school to stop things or defend things like that.
The school almost always tends to "follow the party line" and defend the
teacher (best in case of lawsuits) and make the child and parents feel less than.
Maybe some children wouldn't be so deeply affected by an incident like this.
I wish I had pushed my DH sooner to keep my children home, she would have
never had to experience it.
glena
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homeiscool@... writes:
So the answer is: Keep your kids home if you can!
>I think that is one of the things that FINALLY allowed my husband to agree to
> Tadaa! My kids can spend all the time in the bathroom they want now.
>
> Sandra
keep our youngest home. She had a female emergency and asked to go to the
bathroom. The teacher said no, repeatedly said NO. She even told him the
reason why she had to go, humiliated as he made her say it outloud to the class.
She was young, in middle school, kids were hooting and carrying on. The
teacher, a very young first year male teacher, seemed to make a game of it. Cait
was a quiet student and would never have asked to go at all if it weren't an
emergency. He knew she wasn't a loud student who would be demanding and just
walk out. He was a bully on a power trip and enjoying it. He made a point of
letting two other flirty type girls go to the bathroom when they asked once,
after Cait repeatedly asked.
Luckily it was the last class of the day, and she came home, devastated and
in tears. She certainly would not be returning to that mess. As it happened
her dad was home when she came in and he finally saw the devastation that
school was causing. He went immediately to the school and met with principals and
everyone he could find (and probably a good thing he couldn't find the
teacher) and explained the situation and how if this teacher EVER embarrassed a child
like that again he would promptly find a way to embarrass the teacher equally
in front of his peers.
I got phone calls from parents of students who were in the room that
afternoon, asking if it was true and saying they were sorry and their children felt
badly they hadn't in some way tried to defend or stop the ugliness.
The teacher still teaches, they just moved him to the high school and now let
him coach there too. Guess they figured as a first year teacher he had a lot
to learn about dealing with children and they would somehow help him.
Teachers are all across the spectrum of society, just like with everything
else. There can be mean bully types and kind loving dedicated types and
everything in between. I can't see taking the chance with a child of mine to go
through anything like that again. As a parent you really have no control other
than taking the child out of school to stop things or defend things like that.
The school almost always tends to "follow the party line" and defend the
teacher (best in case of lawsuits) and make the child and parents feel less than.
Maybe some children wouldn't be so deeply affected by an incident like this.
I wish I had pushed my DH sooner to keep my children home, she would have
never had to experience it.
glena
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