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** If my choice was going to do something cool like a museum or a hike or
lunch
at a new place or to see dogs do tricks, I'd rather do those things than
watch
TV**

Kids who've spent very long in school, or with parents pushing "educational
activities" at them, might be twitchy about museums and hikes and other really
cool stuff, so a parent trying to deschool might have to avoid those yet for
awhile - especially if they'd be inclined to put on the teacher voice and start
quizzing and rushing on a museum visit or a nature hike or whatever. And
don't even THINK about going along on a "field trip" with a homeschool group. :)

We're off to visit the new grocery store that opened a few blocks away. Very
cool.

Deborah in IL


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gehrkes

I took my kids to museums after we started to deschool and just as
you said I went into teacher mode they went into shut down mode..
Our first real experience as unschooling folks came several weeks
ago. We rescued a puppy who was full of mange. We took her to the
vet on the Blackfeet Indian Reservation. The kids were asking
questions like crazy. Then the vets assistant took us in the back to
show us all the animals that had been rescued. Like the mini horse
who had its ears chewed off by dogs.. YIKES we saw the stitch marks
and everything. THen there was a cat that someone had dropped
something heavy on its head.. It looked like a cartoon cat with its
eyes bulging, but way not funny. We left with a mange free pup and a
rat.. We like rats.. Then we were only 15 miles till the Blackfeet
Museum. I suggested we go on. Everyone agreed and we arrived in
bitter wind at exactly the time it was due to open. But it didn't.
There is a thing called indian time. Not meant as a racial slur it
is just culturally looser. We sat for about a half an hour.. Only
van in the lot.. I finally called and the lady was very appoligetic.
She forgot to open the door. I first time ever did not direct. I
looked. We were the only ones in the museum and everyone I think was
a bit gun shy of teacher mom.. However we looked.. I got to look at
stuff I was interested in. We watched the slide show and 40 minutes
later we were back on our way home.. Rat, Dog and six kids.. having
experienced whatever we wanted to in the adventure..It was a good
day!
Kathleen










--- In [email protected], DACunefare@a... wrote:
> ** If my choice was going to do something cool like a museum or a
hike or
> lunch
> at a new place or to see dogs do tricks, I'd rather do those
things than
> watch
> TV**
>
> Kids who've spent very long in school, or with parents
pushing "educational
> activities" at them, might be twitchy about museums and hikes and
other really
> cool stuff, so a parent trying to deschool might have to avoid
those yet for
> awhile - especially if they'd be inclined to put on the teacher
voice and start
> quizzing and rushing on a museum visit or a nature hike or
whatever. And
> don't even THINK about going along on a "field trip" with a
homeschool group. :)
>
> We're off to visit the new grocery store that opened a few blocks
away. Very
> cool.
>
> Deborah in IL
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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In a message dated 12/30/03 3:43:54 PM, gehrkes@... writes:

<< I took my kids to museums after we started to deschool and just as

you said I went into teacher mode they went into shut down mode.. >>

But it's not the museum that does it, if the mom can go to a museum for fun,
or go to a zoo without preaching and teaching, just go there to have fun and
look at the best stuff and ignore the rest.

Family memberships are WONDERFUL because if you want to go and just do one
single thing, you didn't "waste money." We've gone to the state science museum
just to use the microscopes, and we've gone to the zoo just to feed the ducks
and fish or just to look at the monkeys.

Sandra

Tia Leschke

>
><< I took my kids to museums after we started to deschool and just as
>
>you said I went into teacher mode they went into shut down mode.. >>
>
>But it's not the museum that does it, if the mom can go to a museum for fun,
>or go to a zoo without preaching and teaching, just go there to have fun and
>look at the best stuff and ignore the rest.

When I first started our yearly trip to the Seattle Science Center I always
tried to read all the explanations to them. Of course they weren't
interested. With Lars, I finally realized that all that hands-on stuff was
just going to stay somewhere in his head until he happened to run across
the concept some other way. Then he'd have the physical memory of it to
hang the explanation on. He didn't need it then.
Tia

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In a message dated 12/30/03 5:00:53 PM, leschke@... writes:

<< With Lars, I finally realized that all that hands-on stuff was
just going to stay somewhere in his head until he happened to run across
the concept some other way. Then he'd have the physical memory of it to
hang the explanation on. He didn't need it then. >>

My kids LOVE the traveling exhibits. There are things to mess with and move
and jump on. And same way, I hardly ever tell them anything, unless I come
across something interesting I would also have dragged an adult friend over to
see. Same way, same motivation, I want to say "OOOH LOOK!" about a baby
mastadon found in a tar pit, or whatever it is.

I would never have been able to count the times that later they've said, "Oh
yeah! Like that hockey armor thing," or "Like at the museum, the 'jump like a
cat' thing," and so forth.

Sandra

Lyle W.

Sandra wrote:

~~But it's not the museum that does it, if the mom can go to a museum for fun,
or go to a zoo without preaching and teaching, just go there to have fun and
look at the best stuff and ignore the rest.~~

It's not the museum per se, but when we were deschooling there's no way you could have gotten my boys to set foot inside a museum, or any other 'field trip' type place. Going there would mean they were supposed to LEARN, and LEARNING IS BORING! That would be like GOING TO SCHOOL!

School can really do a number on a kid's mind. It was quite a while before my boys wanted to do anything like a museum. Even the suggestion of something like that brought on a look of glassy-eyed despair.

Now going to a museum or a zoo or a play is a pretty cool thing to do!

:)

Lyle

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That's part of the plan with "TaxMas" as we call our tax refund...memberships at the local children's museum, natural science museum, "zooquarium" and possibly the Boston Aquarium and Boston Children's Museum depending on cost, and we're also considering Plimoth Plantation.

MamaBeth

SandraDodd@... wrote:

In a message dated 12/30/03 3:43:54 PM, gehrkes@... writes:

<< I took my kids to museums after we started to deschool and just as

you said I went into teacher mode they went into shut down mode.. >>

But it's not the museum that does it, if the mom can go to a museum for fun,
or go to a zoo without preaching and teaching, just go there to have fun and
look at the best stuff and ignore the rest.

Family memberships are WONDERFUL because if you want to go and just do one
single thing, you didn't "waste money." We've gone to the state science museum
just to use the microscopes, and we've gone to the zoo just to feed the ducks
and fish or just to look at the monkeys.

Sandra


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At 06:33 PM 12/30/2003 -0500, SandraDodd@... wrote:
>Family memberships are WONDERFUL because if you want to go and just do one
>single thing, you didn't "waste money." We've gone to the state science
>museum
>just to use the microscopes, and we've gone to the zoo just to feed the ducks
>and fish or just to look at the monkeys.

Even though I'm outside of DC where the museums are free and wonderful, I
really miss the Albuquerque zoo, Aquarium and Natural History Museum!
Albuquerque's museums are newer and so much more geared towards kids than
these stuffy, old Smithsonian museums. The newer exhibits here are getting
better. I also miss not fighting the crowds. We used to bring a bag lunch
and just sit at the final exhibit in the aquarium--the one with the
turtles. <Sigh> I miss that.

My kids have grown up going to museums, libraries, lots of places. My
little ones think they're just as much fun as the zoo; nothing boring about
them. But, that's the advantage of never having them ruined by school.
("Them"--the museums or the kids? Nah, kids could never be ruined.)

--danielle

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In a message dated 12/30/03 8:44:41 PM, danielle.conger@... writes:

<< We used to bring a bag lunch
and just sit at the final exhibit in the aquarium--the one with the
turtles. >>

They have a butterfly pavillion now too. Not as glorious as the one north of
Denver, but pretty glorious for Albuquerque.

That is one fine aquarium, the one you're talking about. Tiny, yet grand.
And though people on the gulf coast would probably see it as something that
should be at a salvage yard, we have a shrimp boat. When the aquarium first
opened they planned to show the Rio Grande along its way, so there's a shrimp
boat from Texas. It's floating in a little puddle (which they have to keep
filling all the time). The first shrimp boat ever in Albuquerque. <bwg> And
they got it about the time Forrest Gump came out so EVERYBODY knew what it was,
and had just seen one in operation. Good tie-in for unschoolers (and
everybody else).

The new children's museum has finally opened here. After three or four d
ifferent temporary locations over the years, it's in its own building. "Explora."
It's right across from the state science museum, which is right across from
the city's museum of history and art. All just east of Rio Grande Blvd., on
Mountain Road, for people who might be passing through Albuquerque on I-40 and
need something to do with the kids for a bit. And the city park right across
from any of those has brand new equipment, set up in a circle like a big
obstacle course, and you can get around without touching the ground if you're
short enough and you don't have to let go.

We're going Friday.

Sandra

Barbara Moreda

There are some other names in MI besides Kalamazoo that are strange sounding
...

Shiawasee
Mackinac (the problem is you can't sound that one out in the English
language)
Fort Michimillimac
Charlevoix
Owosso (my dh likes to say that one really fast, with a Chinese accent ... I
don't ask!)

I have a friend from WA state who grew up in a place called "Squim" but .it
is NOT spelled that way ... I can't remember. Doesn't look ANYTHING like
how it is spelled.

Barbara ... off to bed. perchance to dream. :)

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To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] something cool...


> At 07:57 PM 1/1/04 -0400, Dawn wrote:
> >Sandra writes:
> >When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
> >Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in all
the
> >funniest names of north America:
> >
> >Albuquerque
> >Saskatoon
> >Cucamonga
> >
> >
> >Obviously you've never spoken in Newfoundland. No conferences in Dildo or
> >Placenta Bay? :)
>
> You don't need to go to Newfoundland, Dawn. We have in Nova Scotia:
>
> Musquodoboit
> Ecum Secum
> Kejimkujik (the park where we have our not-back-to-school camping trip)
> Mushaboom
> Hectanooga
> Shubenacadie
>
> I'm sure they sound fine in Mi'qmaq but they're funny to English ears.
>
> Donna, also in Nova Scotia
>
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In a message dated 12/30/03 7:17:46 PM Central Standard Time,
SandraDodd@...
writes:


> Same way, same motivation, I want to say "OOOH LOOK!" about a baby
> mastadon found in a tar pit, or whatever it is.
>

Totally off topic --

This reminded me of a trip I took with my sister to visit our dad in LA. We
were entering southern California through the San Bernadino valley, and passed
a sign for Rancho Cucamonga. What a great name. We were giddy and a little
nervous about seeing Dad after so long, and got to giggling. I'd heard of it
before, but it really struck us as funny, and as we played with it, we
imagined a caveman coming home to his hairy honey after a long day at the La Brea tar
pits and grunting, *Ugh. I huntamonga. You Cucamonga. Ugh.*

Ugh.

:-)
Laura B.


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/1/04 4:14:24 PM, LauraBourdo@... writes:

<< we
imagined a caveman coming home to his hairy honey after a long day at the La
Brea tar
pits and grunting, *Ugh. I huntamonga. You Cucamonga. >>

When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in all the
funniest names of north America:

Albuquerque
Saskatoon
Cucamonga

Sandra

pam sorooshian

On Jan 1, 2004, at 3:29 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:

> When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
> Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in
> all the
> funniest names of north America:

Kalamazoo -- you'll have to put that on your list, too, if you haven't
spoken there yet.
<G>

-pam
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through information, networking and public relations.

Dawn Adams

Sandra writes:
When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in all the
funniest names of north America:

Albuquerque
Saskatoon
Cucamonga


Obviously you've never spoken in Newfoundland. No conferences in Dildo or Placenta Bay? :)

Dawn (next door to the Newfies in Nova Scotia)


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[email protected]

In a message dated 1/1/04 4:59:34 PM, Wishbone@... writes:

<< No conferences in Dildo or Placenta Bay? :) >>

They sound more like Elven than Orcish, linguistically speaking.
Maybe scatological, but not percussive.

There's a pretty-sounding Spanish-language name here. There are two places
in New Mexico named "Arroyo Seco." Gosh it sounds musical, and poetic.

Means "Dry Gulch," but sounds MUCH better in Spanish.

Sandra

Tia Leschke

At 03:57 PM 1/1/2004, you wrote:
>Sandra writes:
>When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
>Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in all the
>funniest names of north America:
>
>Albuquerque
>Saskatoon
>Cucamonga
>
>
>Obviously you've never spoken in Newfoundland. No conferences in Dildo or
>Placenta Bay? :)

Or BC

Bella Bella
Bliss Landing
Blubber Bay
Buckinghorse River
Burnt Flat
Chase
Clo-oose
Horsefly
Hydraulic
Kamloops
Osoyoos
Pouce Coupe (french for "cut flea")
Salmon Arm
Skookumchuck
Spuzzum
Squamish
Stoner
Ta ta Creek
Woodfibre
Yaak
Ymir
My daughter used to live in Ymir - pronounced Why mer. My fil grew up in
Chase
And this is only some of them. There's Qualicum Beach, Uclulet, Esquimalt,
Tlell, Sointula, Quatsino, Zeballos, Tahsis, Youbou, and, of course, Sooke
(from the native T-souke) where I live.

from http://www.members.shaw.ca/kcic1/places.html
Tia

Andrea

At 07:57 PM 1/1/04 -0400, Dawn wrote:
>Sandra writes:
>When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
>Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in all the
>funniest names of north America:
>
>Albuquerque
>Saskatoon
>Cucamonga
>
>
>Obviously you've never spoken in Newfoundland. No conferences in Dildo or
>Placenta Bay? :)

You don't need to go to Newfoundland, Dawn. We have in Nova Scotia:

Musquodoboit
Ecum Secum
Kejimkujik (the park where we have our not-back-to-school camping trip)
Mushaboom
Hectanooga
Shubenacadie

I'm sure they sound fine in Mi'qmaq but they're funny to English ears.

Donna, also in Nova Scotia

TreeGoddess

Don't forget Kalamazoo! After all, that's where Elvis was spotted at
the Burger King. ;)
-Tracy-

On Jan 1, 2004, at 6:29 PM, SandraDodd@... wrote:

> When I spoke in Saskatoon, I told them that now I just need to speak in
> Cucamonga to complete the whole set, and then I will have spoken in
> all the
> funniest names of north America:
>
> Albuquerque
> Saskatoon
> Cucamonga

TreeGoddess

Der... I should have read ahead. ;) Yes, you should speak in
Kalamazoo, MI -- then I only have to drive 4 hours to hear ya.
-Tracy-

On Jan 1, 2004, at 6:36 PM, pam sorooshian wrote:

> Kalamazoo -- you'll have to put that on your list, too, if you haven't
> spoken there yet.

kayb85

> Obviously you've never spoken in Newfoundland. No conferences in
Dildo or Placenta Bay? :)

Maybe sometime she could speak while in Intercourse. (Intercourse,
PA that is.) ;)

Sheila

Elizabeth Roberts

Here on Cape Cod, one of the more unusual names I've found is "Sippewisset"

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In a message dated 1/1/04 5:25:06 PM, leschke@... writes:

<< Skookumchuck >>

That one would fit my criteria. But Bugs Bunny never referenced it, so it's
on the B list.

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In a message dated 1/1/04 5:37:50 PM, sheran@... writes:

<< Maybe sometime she could speak while in Intercourse. (Intercourse,

PA that is.) ;) >>

Done that.

(OH! Haven't *spoken* there. Sorry.)


It's fun to live in Albuquerque because people can't spell it, and I think
that's fun.

I'm so easily amused sometimes.

Oh. And some people can almost spell it but they think it's in Arizona, and
that might be because one year Rand McNally did a big official US map and
reversed the labels on Arizona and New Mexico.

Ooops. But anyone who learned their geography off that map is pretty sure
Phoenix is in New Mexico and Albuquerque is in Arizona, and that happens too
often.

Sandra

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In a message dated 12/30/2003 6:01:07 PM Central Standard Time,
leschke@... writes:
When I first started our yearly trip to the Seattle Science Center I always
tried to read all the explanations to them.
~~~

You know what? I LOVE to read the descriptions, and I WANT to read ALL of
them! What makes me nuts is when someone hurries me along while I'm reading. I
learned long ago not to read them to anyone. When my house is empty of kids,
I'm going to go to lots of museums by myself.

Tuck


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Tia Leschke

>
>
>You know what? I LOVE to read the descriptions, and I WANT to read ALL of
>them! What makes me nuts is when someone hurries me along while I'm
>reading. I
>learned long ago not to read them to anyone. When my house is empty of kids,
>I'm going to go to lots of museums by myself.

I love reading them too. That's why I was so sure the kids would be
interested. . . . not.
Tia

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In a message dated 01/01/2004 16:24:57 Pacific Standard Time, leschke@...
writes:


> Stoner
>

That is not far from us in PG!
Nancy in BC, been to Stoner and a bunch of other places on Tia's list.


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Dawn Adams

Tia writes:
>And this is only some of them. There's Qualicum Beach, Uclulet, Esquimalt,
>Tlell, Sointula, Quatsino, Zeballos, Tahsis, Youbou, and, of course, Sooke
>(from the native T-souke) where I live.

The native names are the best. Some of the names from Miq Maq here are
Shubenacadie
Stewiacke
Mirimichi (well, from next door in NB)
Kejimakoujik (must check spelling on that)
Many of these name are unpronouncible to come-from-away types.

Dawn (in NS)


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Dawn Adams

Barbara writes:
>Charlevoix


That one's lovely.

Dawn (in NS)


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Dawn Adams

Doona writes:

>You don't need to go to Newfoundland, Dawn. We have in Nova Scotia:

>Musquodoboit
>Ecum Secum
>Kejimkujik (the park where we have our not-back-to-school camping trip)
>Mushaboom
>Hectanooga
>Shubenacadie

>I'm sure they sound fine in Mi'qmaq but they're funny to English ears.

>Donna, also in Nova Scotia

Hey, you spelled Keji correctly! I flubbed it. um, mind if I ask in what area of NS you're in? I'm in the rural HRM, just outside of Lantz and Elmsdale.
Dawn (Who'd never heard of Hectanooga and Mushaboom)


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Holly Furgason

About 7 years the "Jewels of the Romanovs" exhibit came to our local
art museum. The kids (then about 11, 8, 6 and 2 yo) and I stood in
line for three hours to get in.

When we finally got in to the exhibit, it was shoulder to shoulder.
I tried so hard to read all the signs just to myself since I had
never known a lot of the information about the family that they had
posted. I thought the kids would just look at the incredibly
beautiful stuff but they kept running off and I had to follow or they
would be swallowed by the crowd. I only got to read two signs.

I learned that night that it's okay to go to the museum by myself
even for once in a lifetime exhibit.

Holly

--- In [email protected], tuckervill2@a... wrote:

> You know what? I LOVE to read the descriptions, and I WANT to read
ALL of
> them! What makes me nuts is when someone hurries me along while
I'm reading. I
> learned long ago not to read them to anyone. When my house is empty
of kids,
> I'm going to go to lots of museums by myself.
>
> Tuck
>
>
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