Unschooling and potty training
melissa4123
Now that we have decided (well I really decided and informed my
husband as he had no opinion other than not sending our daughter to
public school) to unschool our 2 1/2 year old daughter, I am tring
to see things in a different way. I went to public school for 12
years and am really tring to disconnect from that way
of "teaching." I love the idea of letting her learn on her own and
exploring the world around her. I know that I always learned things
much more throughly when it was somthing that I wanted to learn
about and was allowed to do my own research on.
To get to the point of this post. Now that my daughter is 2 1/2, I
have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part of
me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use it
and is just not interested in trying right now.
I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it). So,
most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.
But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
I'm sorry if this has nothing to do with unschooling and I shouldn't
be posting it but, I wanted to get some other opinions on this.
Thank you,
Melissa
husband as he had no opinion other than not sending our daughter to
public school) to unschool our 2 1/2 year old daughter, I am tring
to see things in a different way. I went to public school for 12
years and am really tring to disconnect from that way
of "teaching." I love the idea of letting her learn on her own and
exploring the world around her. I know that I always learned things
much more throughly when it was somthing that I wanted to learn
about and was allowed to do my own research on.
To get to the point of this post. Now that my daughter is 2 1/2, I
have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part of
me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use it
and is just not interested in trying right now.
I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it). So,
most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.
But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
I'm sorry if this has nothing to do with unschooling and I shouldn't
be posting it but, I wanted to get some other opinions on this.
Thank you,
Melissa
Tia Leschke
>I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainlyMake sure you see this as progress. My grandson (16 mos.) found a ziplock
>watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
>(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
>like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it).
bag the other day and deposited his poop in it. (not that way - with his
hands) Then he took it to the toilet and made a delightful mess dunking it
in and out. My daughter is trying hard to see this as progress, and I'm
just glad it isn't me having to clean it up. <g>
All my kids seemed to "get it" around 3 or 3 1/2. If it had taken them
longer, that would have been ok. Your daughter is not going to still be in
diapers when she gets married. %^ )
Tia
Jon and Rue Kream
>>But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
**It may be hard to stop other people from making comments like that, but
you can decide that they're not allowed to talk in your head :0). I'm much
more concerned with how my kids feel about how I treat them than with what
'people' think (I'm sure you are too). The next time you hear those voices
replace them with your daughter's voice. She's the one who matters here.
You've done your part. You've created an environment where she can learn in
her own time. Now you need to trust her to do so. ~Rue
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gehrkes
I am not an unschooling expert, but I am an expert on kids using the
potty.<g>. You can not train them. You can do a potty dance when
they go, but when they do is entirely up to them. Its the old lead a
horse to water thing. As a matter of fact that is some of the first
coersion we use on children to manipulate them to go in the potty.
Forget it .. One day she will say she wants to and then whaaalllaaaa
she is trained. Chances are it will be sometime in the next six
months. And if someone says why isn't she?? Forget it.. If we try to
parent by what others think our kids will never get to just be.
Others people agendas are bogus.
Kathleen
Mother of eight
Potty trainer of only herself..
--- In [email protected], "melissa4123"
<melissa4123@y...> wrote:
potty.<g>. You can not train them. You can do a potty dance when
they go, but when they do is entirely up to them. Its the old lead a
horse to water thing. As a matter of fact that is some of the first
coersion we use on children to manipulate them to go in the potty.
Forget it .. One day she will say she wants to and then whaaalllaaaa
she is trained. Chances are it will be sometime in the next six
months. And if someone says why isn't she?? Forget it.. If we try to
parent by what others think our kids will never get to just be.
Others people agendas are bogus.
Kathleen
Mother of eight
Potty trainer of only herself..
--- In [email protected], "melissa4123"
<melissa4123@y...> wrote:
> Now that we have decided (well I really decided and informed myto
> husband as he had no opinion other than not sending our daughter
> public school) to unschool our 2 1/2 year old daughter, I am tringand
> to see things in a different way. I went to public school for 12
> years and am really tring to disconnect from that way
> of "teaching." I love the idea of letting her learn on her own
> exploring the world around her. I know that I always learnedthings
> much more throughly when it was somthing that I wanted to learnI
> about and was allowed to do my own research on.
>
> To get to the point of this post. Now that my daughter is 2 1/2,
> have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part ofit
> me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
> how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use
> and is just not interested in trying right now.So,
>
> I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
> watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
> (while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
> like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it).
> most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.1/2
> But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3
> or 4 and not potty trained yet?!shouldn't
>
> I'm sorry if this has nothing to do with unschooling and I
> be posting it but, I wanted to get some other opinions on this.
>
> Thank you,
> Melissa
melissa4123
<<You can not train them. You can do a potty dance when
they go, but when they do is entirely up to them. Its the old lead a
horse to water thing. As a matter of fact that is some of the first
coersion we use on children to manipulate them to go in the potty.
Forget it .. One day she will say she wants to and then whaaalllaaaa
she is trained. Chances are it will be sometime in the next six
months. And if someone says why isn't she?? Forget it.. If we try to
parent by what others think our kids will never get to just be.
Others people agendas are bogus.
Kathleen
Mother of eight
Potty trainer of only herself..>>
That's exactly what I thought. I don't normally worry about things
like this. Of course, I started doubting myself when I talked to my
niece's mom (never married to my brother). She is soooooo into
things like did she crawl by this age, walk by this age, talk by
this age and how come she isn't potty trained yet? I started to
wonder if maybe I wasn't worrying enough about it.
I'm done...I enjoy her too much to wonder why she isn't out of
diapers yet. Too many other things to do.....like play in the new
fallen snow (we woke up to that this morning).
Melissa
they go, but when they do is entirely up to them. Its the old lead a
horse to water thing. As a matter of fact that is some of the first
coersion we use on children to manipulate them to go in the potty.
Forget it .. One day she will say she wants to and then whaaalllaaaa
she is trained. Chances are it will be sometime in the next six
months. And if someone says why isn't she?? Forget it.. If we try to
parent by what others think our kids will never get to just be.
Others people agendas are bogus.
Kathleen
Mother of eight
Potty trainer of only herself..>>
That's exactly what I thought. I don't normally worry about things
like this. Of course, I started doubting myself when I talked to my
niece's mom (never married to my brother). She is soooooo into
things like did she crawl by this age, walk by this age, talk by
this age and how come she isn't potty trained yet? I started to
wonder if maybe I wasn't worrying enough about it.
I'm done...I enjoy her too much to wonder why she isn't out of
diapers yet. Too many other things to do.....like play in the new
fallen snow (we woke up to that this morning).
Melissa
[email protected]
We had one completely off the charts -- intellectually gifted,
physically and emotionally healthy, but about seven years old before attaining what I
would call full and confident independence. Maybe knowing that an unschooling
family was able to maintain its cool and lack of concern THAT long will help
you endure whatever almost certainly will be the much shorter wait ahead of
you. :) JJ
melissa4123@... writes:
physically and emotionally healthy, but about seven years old before attaining what I
would call full and confident independence. Maybe knowing that an unschooling
family was able to maintain its cool and lack of concern THAT long will help
you endure whatever almost certainly will be the much shorter wait ahead of
you. :) JJ
melissa4123@... writes:
> That's exactly what I thought. I don't normally worry about things[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> like this. Of course, I started doubting myself when I talked to my
> niece's mom (never married to my brother). She is soooooo into
> things like did she crawl by this age, walk by this age, talk by
> this age and how come she isn't potty trained yet? I started to
> wonder if maybe I wasn't worrying enough about it.
>
> I'm done...I enjoy her too much to wonder why she isn't out of
> diapers yet. Too many other things to do.....like play in the new
> fallen snow (we woke up to that this morning).
>
> Melissa
>
Kelly Lenhart
>My grandson (16 mos.) found a ziplockLOL!!!
>bag the other day and deposited his poop in it. (not that way - with his
>hands) Then he took it to the toilet and made a delightful mess dunking it
>in and out. My daughter is trying hard to see this as progress, and I'm
>just glad it isn't me having to clean it up. <g>
My 2 year old was diaperless and decided to pee in the lemonade pitcher--it
was empty at the time and I heard the tinkle on the plastic. I was very
careful to tell him how clever he was not to pee on the floor. -smile-
And very careful not to laugh!
kelly
[email protected]
In a message dated 12/30/03 4:21:21 PM, skreams@... writes:
<< she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
**It may be hard to stop other people from making comments like that >>
Well you could try saying, "I'm sorry it bothers you. Maybe you could come
back when she's potty trained. We'll let you know. Buh-bye!"
Sandra
<< she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
**It may be hard to stop other people from making comments like that >>
Well you could try saying, "I'm sorry it bothers you. Maybe you could come
back when she's potty trained. We'll let you know. Buh-bye!"
Sandra
Elizabeth Roberts
Inasmuch as unschooling is life, and so is learning to use a potty, it's not inappropriate for this list in my opinion.
I personally would wait..and am waiting...my 3 1/2 year old son CAN "go potty" but hardly ever does. SO he's still in pullups and/or diapers. He just isn't all that interested in moving into underwear full-time.
My 2 1/2 year old is becoming interested in the whole idea, and so we're looking at getting her some underpants. She'll strip as soon as she is icky because she doesn't like how it feels. I think once she gets the idea, she'll "train" quickly and easily, like my oldest did.
Considering that the only NEED for Logan to be pottytrained at this time is for our convenience in not having 3 children in diapers, since he will NOT be going to preschool or Head Start or anything...I'm doing my best to not consider him behind or anything. I highly doubt he'll still be in diapers when he's 5 or 6. Right now, it's not that big of a deal. Inconvenient...somewhat, but that's my problem and not his. He'll have times where he'll ask for underpants, and times he wants a pullup.
If he's 6 and still in a pullup, I might consult a doctor to make sure he doesn't have any physical problems, but at this point...I'm not going to rush it.
If Meggie gets "trained" before he does, that might spur him into it. Or it might not.
Letting go of societal edicts that a child must be potty trained early in life isn't easy, but I don't see any reason to battle over it, have hurt feelings and anger or anything.
MamaBeth
melissa4123 <melissa4123@...> wrote:
Now that we have decided (well I really decided and informed my
husband as he had no opinion other than not sending our daughter to
public school) to unschool our 2 1/2 year old daughter, I am tring
to see things in a different way. I went to public school for 12
years and am really tring to disconnect from that way
of "teaching." I love the idea of letting her learn on her own and
exploring the world around her. I know that I always learned things
much more throughly when it was somthing that I wanted to learn
about and was allowed to do my own research on.
To get to the point of this post. Now that my daughter is 2 1/2, I
have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part of
me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use it
and is just not interested in trying right now.
I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it). So,
most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.
But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
I'm sorry if this has nothing to do with unschooling and I shouldn't
be posting it but, I wanted to get some other opinions on this.
Thank you,
Melissa
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I personally would wait..and am waiting...my 3 1/2 year old son CAN "go potty" but hardly ever does. SO he's still in pullups and/or diapers. He just isn't all that interested in moving into underwear full-time.
My 2 1/2 year old is becoming interested in the whole idea, and so we're looking at getting her some underpants. She'll strip as soon as she is icky because she doesn't like how it feels. I think once she gets the idea, she'll "train" quickly and easily, like my oldest did.
Considering that the only NEED for Logan to be pottytrained at this time is for our convenience in not having 3 children in diapers, since he will NOT be going to preschool or Head Start or anything...I'm doing my best to not consider him behind or anything. I highly doubt he'll still be in diapers when he's 5 or 6. Right now, it's not that big of a deal. Inconvenient...somewhat, but that's my problem and not his. He'll have times where he'll ask for underpants, and times he wants a pullup.
If he's 6 and still in a pullup, I might consult a doctor to make sure he doesn't have any physical problems, but at this point...I'm not going to rush it.
If Meggie gets "trained" before he does, that might spur him into it. Or it might not.
Letting go of societal edicts that a child must be potty trained early in life isn't easy, but I don't see any reason to battle over it, have hurt feelings and anger or anything.
MamaBeth
melissa4123 <melissa4123@...> wrote:
Now that we have decided (well I really decided and informed my
husband as he had no opinion other than not sending our daughter to
public school) to unschool our 2 1/2 year old daughter, I am tring
to see things in a different way. I went to public school for 12
years and am really tring to disconnect from that way
of "teaching." I love the idea of letting her learn on her own and
exploring the world around her. I know that I always learned things
much more throughly when it was somthing that I wanted to learn
about and was allowed to do my own research on.
To get to the point of this post. Now that my daughter is 2 1/2, I
have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part of
me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use it
and is just not interested in trying right now.
I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it). So,
most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.
But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!
I'm sorry if this has nothing to do with unschooling and I shouldn't
be posting it but, I wanted to get some other opinions on this.
Thank you,
Melissa
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melissa4123
<<My 2 1/2 year old is becoming interested in the whole idea, and so
we're looking at getting her some underpants. She'll strip as soon
as she is icky because she doesn't like how it feels. I think once
she gets the idea, she'll "train" quickly and easily, like my oldest
did.>>
Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.
Melissa
we're looking at getting her some underpants. She'll strip as soon
as she is icky because she doesn't like how it feels. I think once
she gets the idea, she'll "train" quickly and easily, like my oldest
did.>>
Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.
Melissa
Mary
I'm to the point of actually wishing I could wave a magic wand and just have
my little one (Alyssa) really want to go on the potty. I'm really ready.
She's not ready at all. She was 3 in Oct. and will come right out and tell
anyone she has no desire to go on the potty. That she's sure of!!! I have to
really make sure I don't mention it to her. My husband isn't quite so good.
When he chages a messy pull up, he just can't help himself from asking her
when she's not going to do this anymore. He doesn't change her a lot! In the
meantime, she's perfectly happy the way she is. And when I get uptight, I
just keep it in my head and know for sure she will want to go on the potty
one of these days.
My MIL has stopped mentioning it. I think she gave up ages ago when her
great grandaughter trained at 2 and Alyssa was not impressed at all.
Whenever the phrase "when are you going to potty train her" comes up, I
think and sometimes even say "we train our dogs, not our kids."
Mary B.
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my little one (Alyssa) really want to go on the potty. I'm really ready.
She's not ready at all. She was 3 in Oct. and will come right out and tell
anyone she has no desire to go on the potty. That she's sure of!!! I have to
really make sure I don't mention it to her. My husband isn't quite so good.
When he chages a messy pull up, he just can't help himself from asking her
when she's not going to do this anymore. He doesn't change her a lot! In the
meantime, she's perfectly happy the way she is. And when I get uptight, I
just keep it in my head and know for sure she will want to go on the potty
one of these days.
My MIL has stopped mentioning it. I think she gave up ages ago when her
great grandaughter trained at 2 and Alyssa was not impressed at all.
Whenever the phrase "when are you going to potty train her" comes up, I
think and sometimes even say "we train our dogs, not our kids."
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
Mary
From: "melissa4123" <melissa4123@...>
<<Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.>>
You are one step ahead of us. Mine would sit in squish for an hour. That's
half the problem. She doesn't say a word about her pull up, everyone else in
the house does!!! <BEG>
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
<<Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.>>
You are one step ahead of us. Mine would sit in squish for an hour. That's
half the problem. She doesn't say a word about her pull up, everyone else in
the house does!!! <BEG>
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com
catherine aceto
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Unschooling and potty training
I'm to the point of actually wishing I could wave a magic wand and just have
my little one (Alyssa) really want to go on the potty.
What helped here when my daughter was 3 was reassuring her that if she pooped on the potty, she didn't have
to keep doing it there. I told her that she could try the potty and then go back to diapers if she preferred. In general she dislikes transitions and change -- as soon as she realized that she wasn't committing to anything permanent she pooped on the potty -- realized that it drastically improved her comfort and never looked back. She had 2 pee accidents and 1 poop accident that week and that was it. (Although she did pee all over me in bed at night about 2 nights a week for another couple of months until she learned to wake up enough to go to the bathroom).
-Cat
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melissa4123
<<Although she did pee all over me in bed at night about 2 nights a
week for another couple of months until she learned to wake up
enough to go to the bathroom).
-Cat>>
Nice to know I'm not the only one still sleeping with my little
one. It started out as something that was just so easy when she was
a newborn (who wants to get up and out of bed when you can just roll
over?). Then, we have moved so much in the last 2 years that I feel
like it makes her feel safer when she's in a new place to be with me
right next to her (I do know that she sleeps better with me next to
her rather than in her own bed). Especially since my husband works
nights and is gone 6 nights a week. We even went so far as to buy a
bigger bed (so that when my husband is home, we can all fit in one
bed).
Melissa
week for another couple of months until she learned to wake up
enough to go to the bathroom).
-Cat>>
Nice to know I'm not the only one still sleeping with my little
one. It started out as something that was just so easy when she was
a newborn (who wants to get up and out of bed when you can just roll
over?). Then, we have moved so much in the last 2 years that I feel
like it makes her feel safer when she's in a new place to be with me
right next to her (I do know that she sleeps better with me next to
her rather than in her own bed). Especially since my husband works
nights and is gone 6 nights a week. We even went so far as to buy a
bigger bed (so that when my husband is home, we can all fit in one
bed).
Melissa
Danielle E. Conger
It's easy. Watch for his lead. Give him plenty of opportunity--potty in the
playroom kind of thing. I even toted a port-a-potty in my van for a while.
Get lots of thick underwear, and be prepared to clean up however often you
need to--cheerfully. Get them into dry pants as quickly as possible. Let
them go bare whenever you're outside or someplace it doesn't really matter.
Be positive--always.
I've approached it with 3 kids this way, one at 3.5, one at 19 mos. and one
at 2.5. Whenever they're ready is when they'll do it. Facilitate, clean up
cheerfully, and it's a breeze.
--danielle
playroom kind of thing. I even toted a port-a-potty in my van for a while.
Get lots of thick underwear, and be prepared to clean up however often you
need to--cheerfully. Get them into dry pants as quickly as possible. Let
them go bare whenever you're outside or someplace it doesn't really matter.
Be positive--always.
I've approached it with 3 kids this way, one at 3.5, one at 19 mos. and one
at 2.5. Whenever they're ready is when they'll do it. Facilitate, clean up
cheerfully, and it's a breeze.
--danielle
Elizabeth Roberts
I like it that she's aware and will tell me she's "Ih-TY!" sometimes though if we aren't careful she will take off an icky diaper and then we have a mess to find...but usually she'll tell us, but if she's wet she'll tend to just take it off. But she'll take it off right at the bathroom now and say "Peepee! Got Peepee!!" and we'll help her to sit on the toilet.
She's a trip...she'll flush things down the toilet if you're not careful...the other day she threw a candy wrapper in and flushed it before I could get to her...and she stuck her head in through the seat and yelled "BYE-BYE!!!" and waved her hand...!! Another time, she had just gone in and flushed it for no reason (I was watching her closely) and she leaned over and then grabbed her nose and said "oh TINKY!!"
MamaBeth
melissa4123 <melissa4123@...> wrote:
<<My 2 1/2 year old is becoming interested in the whole idea, and so
we're looking at getting her some underpants. She'll strip as soon
as she is icky because she doesn't like how it feels. I think once
she gets the idea, she'll "train" quickly and easily, like my oldest
did.>>
Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.
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She's a trip...she'll flush things down the toilet if you're not careful...the other day she threw a candy wrapper in and flushed it before I could get to her...and she stuck her head in through the seat and yelled "BYE-BYE!!!" and waved her hand...!! Another time, she had just gone in and flushed it for no reason (I was watching her closely) and she leaned over and then grabbed her nose and said "oh TINKY!!"
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melissa4123 <melissa4123@...> wrote:
<<My 2 1/2 year old is becoming interested in the whole idea, and so
we're looking at getting her some underpants. She'll strip as soon
as she is icky because she doesn't like how it feels. I think once
she gets the idea, she'll "train" quickly and easily, like my oldest
did.>>
Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.
Melissa
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Logan will tend to just stand somewhere...really still...for awhile. So we know if he's standing really quiet, chances are he's icky. Sometimes he'll go on playing, but only if he's already standing. He does NOT want to sit in it.
MamaBeth
Mary <mummy124@...> wrote:
From: "melissa4123" <melissa4123@...>
<<Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.>>
You are one step ahead of us. Mine would sit in squish for an hour. That's
half the problem. She doesn't say a word about her pull up, everyone else in
the house does!!! <BEG>
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Mary <mummy124@...> wrote:
From: "melissa4123" <melissa4123@...>
<<Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.>>
You are one step ahead of us. Mine would sit in squish for an hour. That's
half the problem. She doesn't say a word about her pull up, everyone else in
the house does!!! <BEG>
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<<To get to the point of this post. Now that my daughter is 2 1/2, I
have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part of
me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use it
and is just not interested in trying right now.
I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it). So,
most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.
But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!>>
This sounds to me like a little girl who is exactly on track with her own
potty learning. Try and lose the word training from your thinking and you
are well on track. Also there are many and plenty of youngsters who are not
seeming to do anything until they are 4, then suddenly seem to learn it all
overnight.
Jayn is four and completely moved from cloth diapers to using the adult
commode all the time, from about 2 ½ to about 3 ½ (no dyedee at night)
absolutely painlessly without any effort from me. She began just as you are
describing (bar the flush action). Next she would use the potty before we
went swimming through her swimsuit, at my invitation. We were away from home
at the time with my mother going through an illness, so I was surprised that
she wanted to start the process her life being disrupted and all. When we
got home in to our apartment, I would ask her whether she wanted to be
without her diaper for a while. I would move the potty around the house to
whatever room we were in, and show her how to pour it out usually she
asked me to do it anyway. She would tell me that she had poo-poo in her
butt and then run to her potty. I guess we would have about one accident
a week, or less. Slowly the potty moved from in any room to the hallway, and
finally the bathroom again. We used diapers when we went out, and then
started leaving them at home, but taking our potty in the car. She seemed to
go from needing the diapers to simply telling me she wanted to peepee very
quickly.
We still used a diaper at night, and towards the end of that she would wake
up dry, and use her diaper when she awoke giggling about it sometimes. I
started asking her whether she wanted a diaper or not, or taking it off
first thing, so she became used to going into the bathroom a little while
after waking. There was a brief period of confusion for her about whether
she had her panties or her diaper on but this only lasted a few nights. We
used a couple of washable bedliners (rather than disposable) from Bed, Bath
and Beyond to protect our mattress. She has wet the bed once in the last
four or five months.
What we did not use were pull ups (another invention of the disposable
diaper industry), rewards, punishments, or any other numerous strategies
from Potty train your child overnight! experts. She still announces her
intention to go to the bathroom, although less often. She refuses to use
small commodes, in the places where kid size ones are available saying she
is a big girl now and will use the big potty. The only help she still
requires of me is wiping her butt on the occasions where that is
necessary.
You may find more acceptance of late (although your daughter is not by any
standards late) potty learning amongst other homeschoolers than the public
at large. Find a local park day type group now. Jayn has been going to our
local group since she was 18 months.
Robyn L. Coburn
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have started thinking about potty training and I'm stuck. Part of
me feels like I should go out and buy the pull ups and "teach" her
how to use the potty. But, I think that she does know how to use it
and is just not interested in trying right now.
I did buy her her own potty a while back and she has certainly
watched me enough times. Sometimes she'll go and sit on her potty
(while I'm in there) and tell me that she's using the potty, just
like me. She even flushes it (her's has a fake flusher on it). So,
most of the time, I think, just let her learn when she's ready.
But, then sometimes I hear (in my head) "people" saying she's 3 1/2
or 4 and not potty trained yet?!>>
This sounds to me like a little girl who is exactly on track with her own
potty learning. Try and lose the word training from your thinking and you
are well on track. Also there are many and plenty of youngsters who are not
seeming to do anything until they are 4, then suddenly seem to learn it all
overnight.
Jayn is four and completely moved from cloth diapers to using the adult
commode all the time, from about 2 ½ to about 3 ½ (no dyedee at night)
absolutely painlessly without any effort from me. She began just as you are
describing (bar the flush action). Next she would use the potty before we
went swimming through her swimsuit, at my invitation. We were away from home
at the time with my mother going through an illness, so I was surprised that
she wanted to start the process her life being disrupted and all. When we
got home in to our apartment, I would ask her whether she wanted to be
without her diaper for a while. I would move the potty around the house to
whatever room we were in, and show her how to pour it out usually she
asked me to do it anyway. She would tell me that she had poo-poo in her
butt and then run to her potty. I guess we would have about one accident
a week, or less. Slowly the potty moved from in any room to the hallway, and
finally the bathroom again. We used diapers when we went out, and then
started leaving them at home, but taking our potty in the car. She seemed to
go from needing the diapers to simply telling me she wanted to peepee very
quickly.
We still used a diaper at night, and towards the end of that she would wake
up dry, and use her diaper when she awoke giggling about it sometimes. I
started asking her whether she wanted a diaper or not, or taking it off
first thing, so she became used to going into the bathroom a little while
after waking. There was a brief period of confusion for her about whether
she had her panties or her diaper on but this only lasted a few nights. We
used a couple of washable bedliners (rather than disposable) from Bed, Bath
and Beyond to protect our mattress. She has wet the bed once in the last
four or five months.
What we did not use were pull ups (another invention of the disposable
diaper industry), rewards, punishments, or any other numerous strategies
from Potty train your child overnight! experts. She still announces her
intention to go to the bathroom, although less often. She refuses to use
small commodes, in the places where kid size ones are available saying she
is a big girl now and will use the big potty. The only help she still
requires of me is wiping her butt on the occasions where that is
necessary.
You may find more acceptance of late (although your daughter is not by any
standards late) potty learning amongst other homeschoolers than the public
at large. Find a local park day type group now. Jayn has been going to our
local group since she was 18 months.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Tia Leschke
>Lars so hated to be changed that sometimes it took a couple of people to do
>
><<Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
>or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
>yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
>or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
>wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.>>
>
>
>You are one step ahead of us. Mine would sit in squish for an hour. That's
>half the problem. She doesn't say a word about her pull up, everyone else in
>the house does!!! <BEG>
it. One to hold him and one to change. I don't know how I'd handle it now.
I'd be uncomfortable with the forced changing for sure. But he was out of
diapers by about 3 1/2 even though he didn't care about wearing a poopy one.
Tia
Tia Leschke
>Lots of co-sleeping on this list. Lars slept with us until he was about 4.
>
>Nice to know I'm not the only one still sleeping with my little
>one. It started out as something that was just so easy when she was
>a newborn (who wants to get up and out of bed when you can just roll
>over?). Then, we have moved so much in the last 2 years that I feel
>like it makes her feel safer when she's in a new place to be with me
>right next to her (I do know that she sleeps better with me next to
>her rather than in her own bed). Especially since my husband works
>nights and is gone 6 nights a week. We even went so far as to buy a
>bigger bed (so that when my husband is home, we can all fit in one
>bed).
My daughter and her husband have 3 with them most nights, though the 9 year
old is working up whatever it takes to sleep alone. I think she does now
some nights.
And my daughter also gets drenched many nights. The middle one won't wear
diapers but doesn't wake up.
Tia
Wife2Vegman
--- Tia Leschke <leschke@...> wrote:
even though he starts off in his own room with one of
us laying down with him until he is asleep, he wanders
in to our room around 1 or 2.
I'm so used to it I hardly ever notice until the next
morning. He is starting to stay in his room a couple
nights a week, though, which makes me a little sad.
=====
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>My almost 6yo still sleeps with us most of the night,
>
> Lots of co-sleeping on this list. Lars slept with us
> until he was about 4.
even though he starts off in his own room with one of
us laying down with him until he is asleep, he wanders
in to our room around 1 or 2.
I'm so used to it I hardly ever notice until the next
morning. He is starting to stay in his room a couple
nights a week, though, which makes me a little sad.
=====
--Susan in VA
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<<He is starting to stay in his room a couple nights a week, though,
which makes me a little sad.>>
I did ask my husband once if he would like me to see if Karen would
stay in her own bed (when we moved to the new home) since he seemed
to be the one being pushed out most of the time. His response was
that he would miss her (even though he is only in bed with us 1 or 2
nights a week) and why don't we just get a bigger bed? Gotta love
him!
Melissa
which makes me a little sad.>>
I did ask my husband once if he would like me to see if Karen would
stay in her own bed (when we moved to the new home) since he seemed
to be the one being pushed out most of the time. His response was
that he would miss her (even though he is only in bed with us 1 or 2
nights a week) and why don't we just get a bigger bed? Gotta love
him!
Melissa
Wife2Vegman
> <<He is starting to stay in his room a couple nights--- melissa4123 <melissa4123@...> wrote:
> a week, though,
> which makes me a little sad.>>
>
> His response wasYep!
> that he would miss her (even though he is only in
> bed with us 1 or 2
> nights a week) and why don't we just get a bigger
> bed? Gotta love
> him!
Although my Dh complains a bit when he gets kicked in
the kidneys all night or slapped once in a while by a
wildly flung boney little arm, we both love having a
happy little boy between us who makes sweet sighs and
giggles in his sleep. We did the same and just bought
a bigger bed.
=====
--Susan in VA
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We co-sleep here now too! I wish we had more with Sarah. Logan spent his first four months in the bed with me because we didn't have a crib for him; he often comes to join me at night. Sometimes he can't fall asleep without someone with him. He's lately taken to sleeping on the couch with Megan, who decided last summer that the new couch was more comfortable than anywhere else in the house. Occasionally he'll crawl in bed with Sarah. I have Gracie in bed with me alot.
Sarah usually keeps to herself nowadays, but she'll snuggle with me in the mornings.
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Sarah usually keeps to herself nowadays, but she'll snuggle with me in the mornings.
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melissa4123
<<Although my Dh complains a bit when he gets kicked in
the kidneys all night or slapped once in a while by a
wildly flung boney little arm, we both love having a
happy little boy between us who makes sweet sighs and
giggles in his sleep. We did the same and just bought
a bigger bed.>>
I think they have to complain a little....seems like it's always the
husband getting the boney elbow in the ribs or kick to the kidney
(although we always seem to be the ones to get peed on, must be the
trade off). :-)
My DD talks in her sleep and I mean sometimes I think she just might
be awake. I'm used to it by now but my husband is not home most
nights and he got an earfull for the first time early this morning.
He sat up in bed, looked at me (because, of course I was awake since
I wake up every time she makes a noise) and asked if she was ok. I
had to laugh since I think he thought I was exaggerating somewhat.
It was the cutest thing!
Melissa
the kidneys all night or slapped once in a while by a
wildly flung boney little arm, we both love having a
happy little boy between us who makes sweet sighs and
giggles in his sleep. We did the same and just bought
a bigger bed.>>
I think they have to complain a little....seems like it's always the
husband getting the boney elbow in the ribs or kick to the kidney
(although we always seem to be the ones to get peed on, must be the
trade off). :-)
My DD talks in her sleep and I mean sometimes I think she just might
be awake. I'm used to it by now but my husband is not home most
nights and he got an earfull for the first time early this morning.
He sat up in bed, looked at me (because, of course I was awake since
I wake up every time she makes a noise) and asked if she was ok. I
had to laugh since I think he thought I was exaggerating somewhat.
It was the cutest thing!
Melissa
J. Stauffer
<<<She doesn't say a word about her pull up, >>>
********************************************
I personally think pull-ups are a major obstacle in kids choosing to use the
toilet. My first few kids were in cloth and made the switch fairly easily.
The last ones and the foster kids we used pull-ups and it seemed to take
much longer to make the connection. I thought perhaps it had to do with the
pull-ups pulling the moisture away from the skin. Just my .02
Julie S.
********************************************
I personally think pull-ups are a major obstacle in kids choosing to use the
toilet. My first few kids were in cloth and made the switch fairly easily.
The last ones and the foster kids we used pull-ups and it seemed to take
much longer to make the connection. I thought perhaps it had to do with the
pull-ups pulling the moisture away from the skin. Just my .02
Julie S.
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Subject: Re: [UnschoolingDiscussion] Re: Unschooling and potty training
> From: "melissa4123" <melissa4123@...>
>
> <<Mine dosen't strip but boy does she HATE it when she is dirty
> or "squishy" as she calls it. She comes running up to me and starts
> yelling "change my diaper, change my diaper" (and either I'm poopy
> or squishy). I kind of like it...now I don't have to worry about
> wether or not she's sitting in a "squishy" diaper, getting a rash.>>
>
>
> You are one step ahead of us. Mine would sit in squish for an hour. That's
> half the problem. everyone else in
> the house does!!! <BEG>
>
>
> Mary B.
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<<I personally think pull-ups are a major obstacle in kids choosing
to use the toilet. My first few kids were in cloth and made the
switch fairly easily. The last ones and the foster kids we used
pull-ups and it seemed to take much longer to make the connection.
I thought perhaps it had to do with the pull-ups pulling the
moisture away from the skin. Just my .02>>
Julie S.
I think you just might be right (I'm sure they work fine for some
people). My cousin worked for a day care provider and once told me
that she hated pull ups. She felt that they really were an obstacle
to potty training and would not recommend them to anyone. That's
one of the reasons that I'm not sure I'm going to get them. I think
I'm just going to wait a while until we do anything and see how she
does.
Melissa
to use the toilet. My first few kids were in cloth and made the
switch fairly easily. The last ones and the foster kids we used
pull-ups and it seemed to take much longer to make the connection.
I thought perhaps it had to do with the pull-ups pulling the
moisture away from the skin. Just my .02>>
Julie S.
I think you just might be right (I'm sure they work fine for some
people). My cousin worked for a day care provider and once told me
that she hated pull ups. She felt that they really were an obstacle
to potty training and would not recommend them to anyone. That's
one of the reasons that I'm not sure I'm going to get them. I think
I'm just going to wait a while until we do anything and see how she
does.
Melissa
Robyn Coburn
<<And my daughter also gets drenched many nights. The middle one won't wear
diapers but doesn't wake up.>>
I didn't mention in my earlier post, but you have reminded me. I would often
put the nighttime diaper (double cloths) onto Jayn after she had dropped off
to sleep.
Robyn L. Coburn
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diapers but doesn't wake up.>>
I didn't mention in my earlier post, but you have reminded me. I would often
put the nighttime diaper (double cloths) onto Jayn after she had dropped off
to sleep.
Robyn L. Coburn
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Tia Leschke
><<And my daughter also gets drenched many nights. The middle one won't wearUnfortunately he wakes up even from a deep sleep if she tries to put one on
>diapers but doesn't wake up.>>
>
>I didn't mention in my earlier post, but you have reminded me. I would often
>put the nighttime diaper (double cloths) onto Jayn after she had dropped off
>to sleep.
him.
%^ (
Tia
Mary
From: "J. Stauffer" <jnjstau@...>
<<I personally think pull-ups are a major obstacle in kids choosing to use
the
toilet. My first few kids were in cloth and made the switch fairly easily.
The last ones and the foster kids we used pull-ups and it seemed to take
much longer to make the connection. I thought perhaps it had to do with the
pull-ups pulling the moisture away from the skin. Just my .02>>
Oh I do agree. The disposables just make it so darn comfy I'm guessing. But
I have never used cloth and I'm not going to start now just to get Alyssa
out of them quicker. <BG> I should relish these last months because my
diaper changing days are over. Until grandkids of course!!!
Mary B.
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<<I personally think pull-ups are a major obstacle in kids choosing to use
the
toilet. My first few kids were in cloth and made the switch fairly easily.
The last ones and the foster kids we used pull-ups and it seemed to take
much longer to make the connection. I thought perhaps it had to do with the
pull-ups pulling the moisture away from the skin. Just my .02>>
Oh I do agree. The disposables just make it so darn comfy I'm guessing. But
I have never used cloth and I'm not going to start now just to get Alyssa
out of them quicker. <BG> I should relish these last months because my
diaper changing days are over. Until grandkids of course!!!
Mary B.
http://www.homeschoolingtshirts.com