Ren

"Floor mopping--strap some cleaning rags to your kid's feet and let 'em go! My
youngest loves doing this. He 'skates' around the room, doing dances and fancy
moves, and the floor gets cleaned at the same time!

Cobweb 'getting'--a slingshot and small chunks of rags. We 'shoot' the cobwebs
down. lol."

Alright, I admit it...I think I have a crush on Lyle!!:)

Why, oh why, don't I think of things like this? Housework is an area I've learned to be grateful about, I've learned to not nag...BUT, I have not learned to really have FUN with. Cool.
My Mom nagged and grumped, I tend to feel grumpy if things get too chaotic and coming SO far from my former behavior made me feel so enlightened. But then I read Lyle's way and I realize I have a long ways to go in this department!

Ren, another Lyle fan

Lyle W.

Ren wrote:

~~Housework is an area I've learned to be grateful about, I've learned to not nag...BUT, I have not learned to really have FUN with. Cool.~~

It's not hard, Ren. Whenever you're doing something (whether it's housework or anything else) and it feels boring and monotonous, stop what you're doing, look at what you're doing, and think of another way to do it. It doesn't matter what you come up with, anything new will help. A lot of my 'methods/inventions' don't work, but they're still fun to come up with. Sometimes I'll spend an hour thinking up a new way to do something that might have only taken 20 mintues to actually do. I know that sounds crazy, but it gets me out of a rut and most of the time we have fun with the 'new way' whether it works or not. It gives my mind, and the kid's minds something to do. Anyone can use a dustmop to round up dust bunnies, but try getting down on your hands and knees with a drinking straw and blowing them into a pile! It's not effecient, but when you get the kids involved it can be a lot of fun. The dust bunnies themselves drop way down the list of priorities, and the fun and
creativity move to the forefront of the job. The job turns into a game, and the rut just fades away.

I'm not a big fan of ruts. They're boring.

:)

Lyle



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From: Ren <starsuncloud@...>
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 05:28:13 GMT
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UnschoolingDiscussion] organizing

>
> "Floor mopping--strap some cleaning rags to your kid's feet and let 'em go! My
> youngest loves doing this. He 'skates' around the room, doing dances and fancy
> moves, and the floor gets cleaned at the same time!
>
> Cobweb 'getting'--a slingshot and small chunks of rags. We 'shoot' the cobwebs
> down. lol."
>
> Alright, I admit it...I think I have a crush on Lyle!!:)
>
> Why, oh why, don't I think of things like this? Housework is an area I've learned to be grateful about, I've learned to not nag...BUT, I have not learned to really have FUN with. Cool.
> My Mom nagged and grumped, I tend to feel grumpy if things get too chaotic and coming SO far from my former behavior made me feel so enlightened. But then I read Lyle's way and I realize I have a long ways to go in this department!
>
> Ren, another Lyle fan
>
>
>



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At 05:28 AM 12/30/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Why, oh why, don't I think of things like this? Housework is an area I've
>learned to be grateful about, I've learned to not nag...BUT, I have not
>learned to really have FUN with. Cool.
>My Mom nagged and grumped, I tend to feel grumpy if things get too chaotic
>and coming SO far from my former behavior made me feel so enlightened. But
>then I read Lyle's way and I realize I have a long ways to go in this
>department!

I think it's a gender-thing. <LOL> I think that maybe Lyle doesn't have the
same baggage so many of us inherited from our mothers, and that allows him
to think of fun instead of drudgery.

I also think that Lyle needs to post more cleaning strategies! ;)

--danielle

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In a message dated 12/29/2003 9:33:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
Alright, I admit it...I think I have a crush on Lyle!!:)
OK who is Lyle?

Heidi


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In a message dated 12/30/2003 7:39:52 AM Pacific Standard Time,
danielle.conger@... writes:
also think that Lyle needs to post more cleaning strategies! ;)
And here I though Lyle wrote a book or something, I just realized who it is
and I agree he needs to post more cleaning strategies.

Heidi


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Lyle W.

At 05:28 AM 12/30/2003 +0000, you wrote:
>Why, oh why, don't I think of things like this? Housework is an area I've
>learned to be grateful about, I've learned to not nag...BUT, I have not
>learned to really have FUN with. Cool.
>My Mom nagged and grumped, I tend to feel grumpy if things get too chaotic
>and coming SO far from my former behavior made me feel so enlightened. But
>then I read Lyle's way and I realize I have a long ways to go in this
>department!

~~I think it's a gender-thing. <LOL> I think that maybe Lyle doesn't have the
same baggage so many of us inherited from our mothers, and that allows him
to think of fun instead of drudgery.

I also think that Lyle needs to post more cleaning strategies! ;)

--danielle~~

Well, maybe it is a gender thing, and maybe it is from inherited baggage, but I think what it comes down to is that you ladies have forgotten how to PLAY! REALLY PLAY! Getting down on the floor, letting your minds romp and wander, getting the crappy parts of everyday living out of your heads and losing yourselves in the moment.

Drop your "baggage" at the door, go in and sit down with your kids and LET them show you how to play again! No matter how long it takes, no matter how many dishes are waiting in the sink or how dirty your floors are, stay there with them until your belly aches from laughing so hard! THAT is when the world around you sort of fades away, and it's just you and your kids having fun and PLAYING! Laughter has a way of letting a person see things differently, and in a much brighter light. It is, in my mind, the absolute cure for drudgery.

You're a mom, not a maid, not a nanny, not a cab driver or a referee, and I don't care what your own mom told you, mom's should have fun too!

Screw the dishes, go PLAY with your kids! If it comes time to eat and there's no dishes to eat off of...improvise, adapt, overcome! That in itself might be fun.

:)

Lyle




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In a message dated 12/30/2003 12:14:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hmsclmyboy@... writes:
OK who is Lyle?

Heidi
>>>

I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.. LOL.. Ive read his posts, but is he
"somebody" in particular??

Teresa


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Lyle W.

~~In a message dated 12/29/2003 9:33:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
starsuncloud@... writes:
Alright, I admit it...I think I have a crush on Lyle!!:)
OK who is Lyle?

Heidi~~

Ummm...me. :)

Lyle


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In a message dated 12/30/03 10:44:16 AM, TeresaBnNC@... writes:

<< I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.. LOL.. Ive read his posts, but is
he
"somebody" in particular?? >>

Only to people who think he's cool, I guess.
Weird question.


He writes and makes sense. He's helpful. That makes him "somebody" in some
people's estimation.

Sandra

Lyle W.

~~In a message dated 12/30/2003 12:14:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
hmsclmyboy@... writes:
OK who is Lyle?

Heidi
>>>

I'm glad I'm not the only one wondering.. LOL.. Ive read his posts, but is he
"somebody" in particular??

Teresa~~

Well, I dunno. What are the requirements for being "somebody in particular"? :) (Sorry, that just kinda cracked me up.) If you're asking if I'm a public speaker...nope. Have I written any books? Not yet. Am I an unschooler? Most definitely!

I'm just a dad that fully believes in the unschooling lifestyle, believes in saying exactly what I think, and seems to be developing a thing for infiltrating the 'Women's Zones' of cyberspace. lol.

Some of the people on this list 'know' me from unschooling.com, where I've been posting for a while now.

I'm just a guy that gets bored at work and likes to talk about unschooling whenever I get the chance.

So, am I "somebody in particular"? Probably not.

:)

Lyle

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In a message dated 12/30/03 10:14:44 AM, hmsclmyboy@... writes:

<< OK who is Lyle? >>

~~He's a regular contributor to the message boards at www.unschooling.com
and here's a picture of him and his sons:

http://www.unschooling.com/cgi/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=display_profile
&profile=lyle-public~~

Thanks, Sandra.

:)

Lyle


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>
>
>He's a regular contributor to the message boards at www.unschooling.com
>and here's a picture of him and his sons:
>
>http://www.unschooling.com/cgi/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=display_profile
>&profile=lyle-public

Not there anymore.
Tia

I'm still there, Sandra's link didn't complete.

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It's still there. Maybe the wrap-around put a space in it . Cut it and take
out any spaces.


http://www.unschooling.com/cgi/discus/board-profile.cgi?action=display_profile
&profile=lyle-public

OR just go to
http://www.unschooling.com/discus/messages/board-topics.html

find any post from Lyle, click the name and you'll get to it the right and
proper way.

And here's a photo of me when I was little.
Note the pedal car. Very important:

http://sandradodd.com/50s

Sandra

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In a message dated 12/30/03 2:22:04 PM, Wishbone@... writes:

<< You look just like how I pictured you would, except for the beard. Same
thing happened with Sandra. >>

You found a photo of me with a beard?

Ho ho ho!!

Sandra
Claus

Dawn Adams

I said:

<< You look just like how I pictured you would, except for the beard. Same
thing happened with Sandra. >>
Sandra cleverly pointed out my horrible writing:
>You found a photo of me with a beard?

>Ho ho ho!!

*groan* Believe me, I used to be able to construct a half decent sentence. Then I had kids. :) Oh well, I'm sure this list will have my writing back in shape soon enough.

Dawn (in NS)


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In a message dated 12/30/2003 2:00:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SandraDodd@... writes:
Only to people who think he's cool, I guess.
Weird question.
>>>>

It was weird from me, but not from the other folks who asked???

Thats a weird answer

Someone, I can't recall whom, said something like > OH, now I know who he is
:-).. Which gave me ( and obviously some other folkss) the impression that
he was "somebody in particular" Like.. OH, he wrote that book "such and such"
or "Oh, hes on that show "such and such" Or, he is married to so and so,
ya know???

From what I have read of Lyle's post, I think he is very cool too. He seems
like a great unschooling dad. I think its wonderful to have the male
perspective shared here. From some of the others posters comments, I thought maybe
he was some kind of well-known personality. Not that because he isn't he
is any less of a person.

Teresa


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In a message dated 12/30/03 5:39:29 PM, Wishbone@... writes:

<< *groan* Believe me, I used to be able to construct a half decent
sentence. Then I had kids. :) >>

I was just playing. I think accidentally funny things are good.
I didn't mean to embarrass you.

This morning I wrote before food or tea, and made three or five mistakes.

Sandra

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In a message dated 12/30/03 6:05:18 PM, TeresaBnNC@... writes:

<< It was weird from me, but not from the other folks who asked??? >>

Yes.

"Who's Lyle?" is not as weird/rude/odd as
"is he 'somebody' in particular??"

Knowing that somone is reading it, to ask whether he's nobody or somebody is
weird.

Sandra

catherine aceto

Made me think of Emily Dickinson

-Cat


Part One: Life
XXVII

I 'M nobody! Who are you?
Are you nobody, too?
Then there 's a pair of us-don't tell!
They 'd banish us, you know.

How dreary to be somebody! 5
How public, like a frog
To tell your name the livelong day
To an admiring bog!





to ask whether he's nobody or somebody is
weird.

Sandra




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Dawn Adams

Sandra writes:
>I was just playing. I think accidentally funny things are good.
>I didn't mean to embarrass you.

You didn't embarrass me! I was chuckling when I read your reply.:)

Dawn (in NS...Beardless)


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